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Here there be monsters!

What is a hero without monsters to vanquish? This 328-page book presents hundreds of different creatures for use in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Within this tome you'll find fire-breathing dragons and blood-drinking vampires, vile demons and shapechanging werewolves, sadistic goblins and lumbering giants, and so much more! Yet not all the creatures in this book are enemies, for some can serve lucky heroes as allies or advisors, be they summoned angels or capricious nymphs. And it doesn't stop there—with full rules for advancing monsters, adapting monsters to different roles, and designing your own unique creations, you'll never be without a band of hideous minions again!

The Pathfinder RPG Bestiary is the must-have companion volume to the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. This imaginative tabletop game builds upon more than 10 years of system development and an Open Playtest featuring more than 50,000 gamers to create a cutting-edge RPG experience that brings the all-time best-selling set of fantasy rules into the new millennium.

The Pathfinder RPG Bestiary includes:

  • More than 350 different monsters
  • Dozens of monstrous variants to modify creatures and keep players on their toes
  • Numerous lists of monsters to aid in navigation, including lists by Challenge Rating, monster type, and habitat
  • Extensive rules for creating effective and balanced monsters
  • Rules for advancing monsters by hit dice, template, or class level
  • Universal monster rules to simplify special attacks, defenses, and qualities like breath weapons, damage reduction, and regeneration
  • More than a dozen feats tailored especially for monsters
  • Suggestions for monstrous cohorts
  • Two dozen additional animal companions
  • More than a dozen different wandering monster encounter tables
  • ... and much, much more!

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Without Opponents, Combat Sure Wouldn't Be Much Fun!

5/5

Bestiaries are Pathfinder's version of the D&D Monster Manuals: reference books containing descriptions and stat-blocks for hundreds of new creatures for PCs to battle, bother, or befriend. They're not designed to be read cover to cover, but that's exactly what I did for this review. The Bestiary weighs in at 327 pages and contains (according to the back-cover) over 350 different monsters arranged in alphabetical order.

The book starts with a two-page Introduction, and it's actually worth reading because it explains what the (28!) different categories of information in a creature's stat block mean. It also introduces the the "Monster Icons" scheme, wherein each monster receives three different icons to visually denote its creature type, terrain, and climate. I like the idea of the icons, but I find them too small and similar to be useful, and I'm not interested in flipping back to page 5 too figure out what they mean. I'm happy just reading the corresponding entries in the stat block.

For monsters, we start with Aasimar on page 7 and run through until Zombie on page 289. This is what the book is all about, but it's a challenging thing to review as my notes are full of bits of scattered remarks about dozens of different monsters. As I can't figure out a coherent way to synthesize them, I'm going to take the unusual tack of just including them as a sort of impressionistic picture of what's in the book. Skim to the bottom for more of the review.

"A"

--aboleths are a lot tougher than CR might indicate!

--Not officially Golarion, but flavour in entries generally compatible

--backdoor cosmology with angels stuff

--really good write-up of Solar Angels

--Army Ant Swarms are pretty nasty!

--like archons--I've never really seen them used outside of summoning, when no RP is involved

--azatas: CG celestials

Bs

--cool how barghests become greater!

--bebiliths: wow, awesome art for an awesome creature!

--bugbear artwork is weird, but fascinating bit on "The Nature of Goblinoid Evil"

Cs

--creepy Choker

--good mixture of animals and various types of monsters

--a lot of classic ones, but some new ones (like chuul) as well

--like history of cyclops and flash of insight power

Ds

--dark folk and dark stalkers?!?! humanoid subtype with language--never heard of them...

--demons! Good, engaging, clear explanation

--don't argue with a balor demon!

--great stories for demons--quasit familiars taking master's souls!

--devils! emphasis on hierarchy

--a good variety of tough foes, with lots of HP and resistances

--great writeup of lemure devils

--fantastic artwork all the way through!

--Devourers are pretty nasty for their CR!

--too many dinosaurs!

--dragons! stat blocks are so long, there's very little description

--driders and drow: underused

E

--elementals

F

--familiar (no idea that was here!)

--froghemoth--really?

G

--gelatinous cubes are really dangerous!

--genies

--love Shaitan genie art

--ghosts: emphasis on story-based customization, 2 page spread

--Giants!

--fun gibbering mouthers artwork

--goblins

--golems

Hs

--half- templates

--occasionally the titles aren't the most intuitive: "Herd animal, bison" for example

--need full stats for combat-trained horses

Is

--intellect devourer--WTF!

Ks

--kytons are cool/creepy

Ls

--lamia artwork is regrettable

--lich: gotta have 'em!

--linnorms are nasty, especially curses and poison!

--lycanthrope template

Ms

--medusas, minotaurs, mimics--all the classics!

--mummy rot sure is nasty!

Ns

-- nagas look dumb

--neothelids are intriguing! need more

--nymphs have cool boons

Os

--Oni need better explanation

Ps

--good amount of player detail for pegasi

Rs

--rakhasa: a lot of potential in the right campaign

--retrievers are scary

--rust monsters!

Ss

--sea hag artwork is great! (and evil eye comatose ability!)

--shadows can be quite more lethal than CR

--touch ACs are so low because of artificial natural armor bonuses, making Alchemists and Gunslingers especially powerful

--shoggoths arent very scary for CR19

--skum have surprisingly interesting write-up

--giant slugs too goofy

Ts

--tarrasque: bad pic, underwhelming

--troglodyte pic is great!

Us

Vs

--vampires: elaborate template

--vargouille's kiss is nasty

Ws

Xs

--xills are awesome!

Zs

--zombie pic is hilarious

Hm, that was embarrassing. Sorry!

After the monster entries are a series of appendices, and these definitely add value to the book.

Appendix 1 is Monster Creation, and it offers a very thorough and clear guide to monster creation. There are a *lot* of moving parts to creating balanced monsters in Pathfinder, so this will take some time until you get the hang of it. Appendix 2 is Monster Advancement, and this is another important part of the book because it shows GMs how to adjust creatures in the book to make them more or less powerful by adding simple templates (like "Giant" or "Young") and by adding racial hit dice or class levels. Appendix 3 is the section of the book I use more than any other, and it's indispensable: Universal Monster Rules. In order to save space and avoid repetition in stat blocks, common monster abilities are fleshed out here: everything from Darkvision to Damage Reduction to Incorporeal and more. Only very, very experienced GMs should try to run creatures just from the stat blocks without remembering to double-check what their monster abilities do, precisely, in the Universal Monster Rules. The same appendix also contains creature Types and Subtypes, which are like packages of basic information that all creatures of a particular category, such as demons or animals, share. Again, this is to save space in stat blocks. Appendix 4 is very short, and provides some advice on Monsters as PCs. I've never used it. Appendix 5 is Monster Feats, though some PCs may actually legitimately use some of them like Craft Construct. If you notice that a monster has a feat you can't find in the Core Rulebook, that's probably because it's listed here. Appendices 6 and 7 list Monster Cohorts (for the Leadership feat) and Animal Companions (for druids and rangers), respectively. Appendices 8-12 are indexes that help a GM who is looking for monsters of a particular type, CR, terrain, etc. Really useful information that most people who just use online databases probably never realized was available. Finally, Appendix 14 contains Encounter Tables broken up by terrain. These include average CRs for an each table, but I still think it'd be foolish to actually roll on them: in a Hill/Mountain, region, for example, your PCs could run into CR 3 orcs or CR 12 fire giants. A party that is challenged by the former would be curb-stomped by the latter. Good random encounter table design needs to have a narrow range of CRs before they become feasible.

I'm not a huge monster guy like some people, but I definitely enjoyed reading the Bestiary and I learned a lot about the core monsters of the setting. I know there are five later books that expand the selection far more, but much of what I see in APs and PFS still draws from this book. Along with the Core Rulebook, it's safe to say that the Bestiary was one of the releases that helped to solidify Paizo's reputation as a company that publishes the highest calibre of RPG books in terms of writing quality, artwork, design, and layout. It's not indispensable since there are multiple websites that present the same information, but for ease of use (and the joy of skimming), the Bestiary is one of those books that every GM should have.


It all starts here babee

5/5

One only two books you require to jump in and play Pathfinder, it is the essential meat in the gaming stew. As important and the core rulebook is, it is nothing with out this work.

Expanded and tweaked off the OGL 3.x material, its cleaner, better organized and tweaked for the Pathfinder rules. Every hero needs a foe, every damsel in distress needs a captor, and every GM needs a source of badies to keep the group on their toes. You will find it all here, between these pages is years of destruction and mayhem.

No matter if you playing Pathfinders own setting, one of your own design and creation, or another publishers material, this is the must have companion to your CRB.


They need more monsters

5/5

not as useful as the advanced raced guide for the monsters you could play as it does have a lot. i own this and well do my best to keep it hidden from my players. they keep trying to make them fight dragons... they are lvl 5


great reference book

5/5

This book has all the monsters you would need on a starting campaine


The standard by which all monster products will be judged by.

5/5

By now, there are several Bestiaries out in print, but when this book first came out you arguably needed to own it to play the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Was it worth the purchase? Decide for yourself!

Crunch
When we talk about a book's crunch, we're looking at its game rules, mechanics, and similar stats. As a monster book, the Bestiary is 99% crunch, and for Paizo's first real Bestiary, it is absolutely fantastic. There isn't a whole lot you can really say about monster stat blocks; they work perfectly and there aren't any monsters that feel ridiculous for their challenge rating (CR). The book also includes several new races that are appropriate for player characters; in this book, we have aasimars, the tieflings, and drow, as well as the applicable but seldom appropriate deurgar, drow noble, and svirfneblin. The book stays true to the rules of its predecessors; when you look at a drow, you recognize it as a drow from previous games. Because of the significant power up that the core races received these classically "OP" races aren't very far out of line with your traditional player characrers, and as a result we don't see the Level Adjustment system in Pathfinder. If you're unfamiliar with the term, in older editions of Dungeons and Dragons, some races were deemed so powerful that you had to actually forgo class levels in order to be a member of the race. For example, if you wanted to play a drow, you had a LA of +1, meaning that your race counted as 1 class level when determining your party's level. This either meant you were more powerful than your friends or (and more commonly) your GM had you start at a lower level to compensate. And believe me, it is not fun to be a sorcerer of an LA race because of how far behind your party is! The racial benefits seldom made up for the loss of character levels and it was a pretty terrible mechanic all around, so good riddance.

Although the book's theme is classic monsters, Paizo manages to add its own spin on fantasy games by including weird and amazing monsters. A perfect example is the froghemoth, which is basically a giant aberrant frog-monster. As a huge Lovecraft fan, I was ecstatic to see monsters like the shoggoth creep up in Pathfinder as well. For a first Bestiary, the spread of monsters is well-chosen and you could definitely run a game with only this book if you really wanted to.

What probably amounts to the best change of all, in my opinion, is the changes to the rules for building your own monsters. These rules are difficult to comprehend and enact in other games, but the Paizo team does an excellent job of laying out step-by-step every detail in crafting your own monsters by including handy charts and tables. For a game that knew it wasn't launching with much material and that it wanted to be backwards-compatible with older products, it was a very wise choice to streamline monster-making as much as they did and its probably the best reason to keep a copy of Bestiary I in your library alongside future monster tomes. 5 /5 Stars.

Flavor
When we talk about a product's flavor, we're talking about its fiction content, its style, and its overall feel. This section is always very opinionated, because even though I whole-heartily enjoy Lovecraft and his works, there are those who don't like their minds thrust into insanity and the mere sight of a shoggoth or whatnot. When you read the Bestiary, the one thing that becomes very clear is that there simply is not much room for flavor. Most monsters get a paragraph and a half of descriptive text and a beautiful picture, but that's about it. Honestly, however, that's all this product needs. The monsters that are detailed are classic monsters, so the information provided about them tends to be enough that classic gamers can recognize the creature for what it is and new players can get a sense of wonder and learn enough about the monster to be on the same page with the veterans. The art is fabulous in this book and supplements the descriptions perfectly, even when the monster concept is weird text-wise a beautiful illustration helps to sell it to you personally.

The elephant in the room is that Pathfinder wants to have its own identity as much as it wants to follow in the footsteps of its predecessors. This means that every so often the Paizo team completely re-imagines and redefines the traits of a specific monster. Usually this happens to a relatively unknown or under used monster (we'll talk more about this in Bestiary III), but there is one monster in particular that is relatively well-known and got the Paizo makeover in a big way. That monster, which has become Paizo's mascot of sorts, is the goblin. To give a little bit of background, traditionally goblins have admittedly lacked character; they were little more than evil halflings in most settings. Paizo's very first adventure path, Rise of the Runelords, shook this up by drastically changing the image of the goblin; they were now psychotic savages who were obsessed with fire and scared of dogs and horses. They sang Children of the Corn style songs about death and murder and often filled a role as comic relief in many of the adventures they have been featured in while simultaneously managing to inspire fear and terror in many a party. In my experience, you either love or you hate the new look of goblins. Many classic gamers that I've played with deplore the "new" goblin if only for the art design; big heads, small bodies. Honestly, however, it doesn't bother me much; my gaming generation includes Warcraft's techno-suicidal goblins and Warhammer's hordes of insane, suicidal goblins; next to those, Paizo's take on the goblin fits in rather nicely.

For being limited to several paragraphs of text per monster, the Bestiary gives you everything you'd expect and more flavor-wised. Its a book of monsters that feel threatening and believable; there's nothing too dumb or too far out there unless you're a hard-core medieval traditionalist. 5 /5 Stars.

Texture
When we talk about a book's texture, we're talking about its grammar and layout, among other things. As someone who has actually sat down to try and write a bestiary, let's be clear that if there's one thing I get, its that stat blocks are HARD. They're hard to format, they're hard to standardize, they're even hard to spell check because of the sheer amount of text that a book like the Bestiary has. All of its complex jargon, half of it made of surreal naming conventions. With all this mind, if there's one place that the Bestiary is amazing, its the texture. There is almost no errors of any kind in this document. Perfect grammar. Perfect spelling conventions. Perfect formatting. Everything is perfect.

As you can see in the picture I included, the Bestiary breaks from traditional monster books in that it limits one monster page, with only a few exceptions (mostly animals and familiars). There is extreme attention to detail in the text placement, and its very impressive that the book manages to be as descriptive as it is with as little space as it has; almost every monster is illustrated, after all, so not only are you juggling stat blocks, but you're also juggling them with text descriptions and illustrations. This book is a marvel of editing and layout and nothing less. 5 /5 Stars.

Final Score & Thoughts
Crunch: 5 / 5
Flavor: 5 / 5
Texture: 5 / 5
Final Score: 5 / 5

This book does everything right. It is the shining star by which all monster-based products should be judged. For a first attempt, Paizo smashes their monster book out of the park, past all expectations. It makes me excited to start looking at the future Bestiary products.


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Are we going to get stats for Aquatic Elves. Ideally they should have been in Elves of Golarion but that was OGL not PRPG so if that book had provided stats they would have been 3.5. I am pretty sure that Aquatic Elves do not appear in the Bestiary but I still hope we can see game mechanics for them soon.


I'm jonesing for this book so bad...

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Kvantum wrote:
Does anybody else think Goblins as PCs are a bit on the broken side now? +4 to Dex and a +4 size bonus to Stealth and a +4 racial bonus to Stealth? A 1st level Goblin Rogue with a 19 Dex (15 base +4) and a net +16 Stealth check (1 rank +3 class +4 Dex +4 racial +4 size)? A +19 if he or she takes Skill Focus (Stealth)? A 3.5 Goblin only had a +2 to Dex and a +4 racial to Move Silently alone - still had the +4 size bonus to Hide, alright, but not a racial bonus on top of that. Halflings don't get to carry over their 3.5 racial bonus to Move Silently as a racial bonus to Stealth, so why should Goblins?

Goblins aren't meant to be one of the core PC races really, so not as much thought went in to making sure they're totally "balanced" as PC races despite the fact that we present the rules for doing so. We do this for MANY of the "close to human" races in the Bestiary, as much as to help GMs who are statting up NPCs as a nod to players who enjoy plaing exotic or unusual PC races.

That said... without the high Dex modifier, the goblin was very obviously less powerful than a human. We decided to up its Dex and perhaps edge it into the slightly overpowered side of things rather than on the obviously underpowered side of things, and felt comfortable doing so because it's not a core race and thus GMs will be able to decide for themselves if they want goblin PCs or not.

Liberty's Edge

Do we have a list of what monsters are in this yet???

I am specifically very interested to know if Sauhagan are in!!!! Are they OGL monsters?

Thanks!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Sahuagin are in the Bestiary. A partial list of all the monsters appears in the Bonus Bestairy... posting the full list might be a good idea for a blog post, though...

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

James Jacobs wrote:
Sahuagin are in the Bestiary. A partial list of all the monsters appears in the Bonus Bestairy... posting the full list might be a good idea for a blog post, though...

With lost of art to accompany it?

Liberty's Edge

James Jacobs wrote:
Sahuagin are in the Bestiary. A partial list of all the monsters appears in the Bonus Bestairy... posting the full list might be a good idea for a blog post, though...

Fantastic! I'm going to be updating and revamping the old First Edition Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh trilogy to Pathfinder RPG rules and Sahuagin are pretty important later on.

Can't wait to get the Bestairy!

Silver Crusade

Paizo

Do you guys have a release date yet for this one??

Planning on doing a pre-order but I'd like to know the release date first

(probably said already but damn that is alott of pages to go through :))

Also curious on how much the pdf will run for this one?

thanks!!

RM

Contributor

Marc Radle 81 wrote:


Fantastic! I'm going to be updating and revamping the old First Edition Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh trilogy to Pathfinder RPG rules and Sahuagin are pretty important later on.

Can't wait to get the Bestairy!

I love the Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh! Make your revision available somewhere, please. ;)

The Exchange

Really hoping for the Tarrasque to be good, especially the art as I think the big critter got kinda short changed by its artwork in the 3.0/3.5 Monster Manuals (though it did get that awesome full page piece in the DMG2 which did it justice). Always been one of my favourite creatures, even though I've never actually gotten to use it in a game (yet).

Don't suppose you'd be willing to let us know who did the art for it would you?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Brakkart wrote:

Really hoping for the Tarrasque to be good, especially the art as I think the big critter got kinda short changed by its artwork in the 3.0/3.5 Monster Manuals (though it did get that awesome full page piece in the DMG2 which did it justice). Always been one of my favourite creatures, even though I've never actually gotten to use it in a game (yet).

Don't suppose you'd be willing to let us know who did the art for it would you?

I don't remember who did the art, but it's pretty good! It's not THAT different from 3.5, but he's a bit leaner looking and faster looking and IIRC doesn't have as big of a chin...

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Haldir wrote:

Paizo

Do you guys have a release date yet for this one??

Planning on doing a pre-order but I'd like to know the release date first

(probably said already but damn that is alott of pages to go through :))

Also curious on how much the pdf will run for this one?

thanks!!

RM

We're hoping for a release date of October, but depending on how fast it goes over the ocean on the boat and how long it takes to get through customs and all that... it could release in September, I suppose. When it gets into the USA we'll know for sure.

I don't think we've announced any PDF pricing for it yet.

The Exchange

James Jacobs wrote:
I don't remember who did the art, but it's pretty good! It's not THAT different from 3.5, but he's a bit leaner looking and faster looking and IIRC doesn't have as big of a chin...

All of which were things I didn't like about the 3.5 art for him, so that all sounds good to me!

Silver Crusade

Brakkart wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
I don't remember who did the art, but it's pretty good! It's not THAT different from 3.5, but he's a bit leaner looking and faster looking and IIRC doesn't have as big of a chin...
All of which were things I didn't like about the 3.5 art for him, so that all sounds good to me!

Thanks James

I guess I'll hold off for now on my pre-order.

thanks again for the info

RM

Liberty's Edge

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There are mentions on the SRD page about an affordable PDF - affordable in the way the PDF of the core rulebook was affordable at $10 - of the Bestiary. Is there any news about this?


I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a couple of questions I had...

1. Is the titan in the book?

2. I dont suppose some light could be shed on how to advance monsters i.e. more hit dice ala 3.5 (maybe without increasing in size, which was annoying alot of the time..), etc?

Thanks for any response! :)

Liberty's Edge

Starsunder wrote:

I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a couple of questions I had...

1. Is the titan in the book?

2. I dont suppose some light could be shed on how to advance monsters i.e. more hit dice ala 3.5 (maybe without increasing in size, which was annoying alot of the time..), etc?

Thanks for any response! :)

I do not see Titan in the list that is included in the Bonus Bestiary.

As to the second one I am still to new....

Sean

Dark Archive

Not sure if this has been listed elsewhere so sorry if this is redundant.

Goblin's attack with melee is incorrect.
Should be Short sword +2(1d4/19-20) not +1.

Must have missed the size bonus or BAB when calculating.


It's taking so long. Arrrrgh never have you!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Starsunder wrote:
1. Is the titan in the book?

Nope; the titan is not in the Bestiary. It's a great contender for when we do a Bestiary II though!

Starsunder wrote:
2. I dont suppose some light could be shed on how to advance monsters i.e. more hit dice ala 3.5 (maybe without increasing in size, which was annoying alot of the time..), etc?

There's a huge section on multiple methods of advancing monsters in the Bestiary appendix, including rules and advice on doing so by increasing their Hit Dice. We took out the advancement lines on the monster stat blocks precisely because it WAS annoying to lock in size increases to happen at specific HD increases. The Bestiary will let the GM advance monsters however he wants.


James Jacobs wrote:
Starsunder wrote:
1. Is the titan in the book?

Nope; the titan is not in the Bestiary. It's a great contender for when we do a Bestiary II though!

Starsunder wrote:
2. I dont suppose some light could be shed on how to advance monsters i.e. more hit dice ala 3.5 (maybe without increasing in size, which was annoying alot of the time..), etc?
There's a huge section on multiple methods of advancing monsters in the Bestiary appendix, including rules and advice on doing so by increasing their Hit Dice. We took out the advancement lines on the monster stat blocks precisely because it WAS annoying to lock in size increases to happen at specific HD increases. The Bestiary will let the GM advance monsters however he wants.

Awesome news on the advancing rules! Greatly looking forward to that, as advancing monsters (tinkering with them in general) is something that I tend to do a lot of.

Shame about the titan, although being in the Bestiary II is not too shabby ;)

Liberty's Edge

Question on the Skeleton/Zombie (and probably other templates like them).

It says that the base creature loses all class HD and most special abilities (except for any extraordinary special qualities that improve its melee or ranged attacks).

Does this mean that if (for example) a 15th level fighter is made into a Skeleton/Zombie, they would retain the fighter's Weapon Training abilities? Or a ranger's favored enemy/favored terrain?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

mattdroz wrote:

Question on the Skeleton/Zombie (and probably other templates like them).

It says that the base creature loses all class HD and most special abilities (except for any extraordinary special qualities that improve its melee or ranged attacks).

Does this mean that if (for example) a 15th level fighter is made into a Skeleton/Zombie, they would retain the fighter's Weapon Training abilities? Or a ranger's favored enemy/favored terrain?

Yeah; a 15th-level ANYTHING human turned into a skeleton or zombie loses all of his abilities; there's no difference between a skeleton or zombie made from a 1st level human commoner and a 20th-level human wizard. There are (or will be) other templates that allow for 20th level skeletons.

Liberty's Edge

Thanks, James! That's what I thought, but I wasn't quite sure if the extraordinary abilities meant racial or class...


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Has the PDF price already been announced? If not, any idea when it will be?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Dalvyn wrote:
Has the PDF price already been announced? If not, any idea when it will be?

It hasn't been announced yet. I would assume we'll announce it soon... but I can't say for sure when.


I dont know if this can be answered...but Ill ask anyways.

Is the Solar in the book? I know it's on the list but you never know...and if it IS in the book, has it been beefed up some? As you may remember, both the Pit Fiend and the Balor got substantial upgrades going from 3.0 to 3.5, but for some reason the Solar wasnt changed at all. Now the Solar has less STR, DEX, CON, INT, WIS, and CHA than both of them! What is this, crazy town!? I understand that it gets full clerical spellcasting abilities, but still...something is clearly not right. The Solar has traditionally been one of the "there are some things you mess with, but this isn't one of them", moreso than the Balor or Pit Fiend.

Anyways, sorry for the rant lol. Greatly looking forward to the book! :)

Oh, and for the love of all things D&D, please let the art for it be better than it was in 3.5 MM...that was truly atrocious.

Liberty's Edge

Starsunder wrote:

I dont know if this can be answered...but Ill ask anyways.

Is the Solar in the book?

I didn't see it listed in the Bonus Bestiary.

Unofficial answer!

Sean


thenorthman wrote:
Starsunder wrote:

I dont know if this can be answered...but Ill ask anyways.

Is the Solar in the book?

I didn't see it listed in the Bonus Bestiary.

Unofficial answer!

Sean

Im pretty sure its listed under "Angel"

Liberty's Edge

Starsunder wrote:
thenorthman wrote:
Starsunder wrote:

I dont know if this can be answered...but Ill ask anyways.

Is the Solar in the book?

I didn't see it listed in the Bonus Bestiary.

Unofficial answer!

Sean

Im pretty sure its listed under "Angel"

You are correct. Sorry about that. I am fairly new to DND stuff, so do not know all the "monsters" by heart. Or rather there potential variation in names.

Sean


thenorthman wrote:
Starsunder wrote:
thenorthman wrote:
Starsunder wrote:

I dont know if this can be answered...but Ill ask anyways.

Is the Solar in the book?

I didn't see it listed in the Bonus Bestiary.

Unofficial answer!

Sean

Im pretty sure its listed under "Angel"

You are correct. Sorry about that. I am fairly new to DND stuff, so do not know all the "monsters" by heart. Or rather there potential variation in names.

Sean

Hey man np :)

Scarab Sages

It is coming out in October, but yay.........FANGASM!


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Just preordered mine! The preview convinced me within minutes :)

Woot!!

D


Hey Vic Wertz or Lisa,

If we assume that anything can happen with Customs.. Would you say early October, or Mid to late October?


Is this ALL creatures from from the 3.5 Monster Manual? (with a new take on them of course) or will we see others?


Sedric the Hero wrote:
Is this ALL creatures from from the 3.5 Monster Manual? (with a new take on them of course) or will we see others?

No.

Though most of the creatures are from the 3.5 MM/SRD, a few are from other OGL (open gaming license) sources, such as the Tome of Horrors (not Tomb). A not-quite comprehensive list can be found on the inside cover of the Bonus Bestiary, available for free in pdf Here.

Liberty's Edge

Is this still slated for an October release?

Paizo Employee CEO

Arnim Thayer wrote:
Is this still slated for an October release?

We got our first bound copies today here at the office, so I would say that bodes well for an October release, but anything can happen in-transit from China.

-Lisa

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Another reason why you should print in Europe ! In the event of any trouble, Black Ops Paizo Europe Team will intercept the shipment and dispatch* it to the US immediately.**

* - we will add one (1) KaeYoss as a bonus.

** - after we grab our copies that is.


Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Gorbacz wrote:

Another reason why you should print in Europe ! In the event of any trouble, Black Ops Paizo Europe Team will intercept the shipment and dispatch* it to the US immediately.**

* - we will add one (1) KaeYoss as a bonus.

** - after we grab our copies that is.

#2


I need this, NOW!

Dark Archive

Huh. This is weird. My FLGS notified me the bestiary may be available as early as next week.

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

joela wrote:
Huh. This is weird. My FLGS notified me the bestiary may be available as early as next week.

They were wrong. They must be looking at the original release date, before it got pushed back.

Dark Archive

yoda8myhead wrote:
joela wrote:
Huh. This is weird. My FLGS notified me the bestiary may be available as early as next week.
They were wrong. They must be looking at the original release date, before it got pushed back.

I'll let them know so they can notify the distributor.


I am pretty sure of the answer, but all these questions about PDF price have me unsure, subscribers get the PDF for free like we did for the core book, right?

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
I am pretty sure of the answer, but all these questions about PDF price have me unsure, subscribers get the PDF for free like we did for the core book, right?

If you are a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber, you get the PDF for free!

Dark Archive

James Jacobs wrote:
Dalvyn wrote:
Has the PDF price already been announced? If not, any idea when it will be?
It hasn't been announced yet. I would assume we'll announce it soon... but I can't say for sure when.

Oh yeah it was. I think it was somewhere in this thread, but I couldn't find it. Could you remind us? I'm pretty sure it was $19.99...

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:

Goblins aren't meant to be one of the core PC races really, so not as much thought went in to making sure they're totally "balanced" as PC races despite the fact that we present the rules for doing so. We do this for MANY of the "close to human" races in the Bestiary, as much as to help GMs who are statting up NPCs as a nod to players who enjoy plaing exotic or unusual PC races.

That said... without the high Dex modifier, the goblin was very obviously less powerful than a human. We decided to up its Dex and perhaps edge it into the slightly overpowered side of things rather than on the obviously underpowered side of things, and felt comfortable doing so because it's not a core race and thus GMs will be able to decide for themselves if they want goblin PCs or not.

It would be nice to get a sense of how much Paizo has worked/re-worked monster races for Pathfinder. I'm proposing to my group a PC gnoll. Will we be seeing gnolls as playable characters? (I.e., without the LA +1?)

I had proposed simply removing the 2d8 and all level-based adjustments. Members of the group think that the +4, +2, -2, -2 stat block is unbalanced, as is the +1 Natural Armor. I.e., drop the +4 to a +2 and removed one of the -2s, as well as removed the natural armor. I think that might unjustly nerf the gnoll beyond other races.

So, I'd really like to know whether Paizo has weighed in on the gnoll.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Saurstalk wrote:
It would be nice to get a sense of how much Paizo has worked/re-worked monster races for Pathfinder. I'm proposing to my group a PC gnoll. Will we be seeing gnolls as playable characters? (I.e., without the LA +1?)

Full detailes will be revealed in less than a month when the Bestiary's out...

...but as a preview... gnolls probably don't really make good PCs. They're in the same category as bugbears and lizardfolk... they have racial hit dice and as such are awkward when it comes to pairing up with the core classes. As far as I can remember, the gnoll is relatively unchanged from its SRD incarnation as a result.


Talking about the hardcover book, a friend of mine just traded with me my own book for the one he brought back from GenCon, signed by many good people of Paizo (some of the signatures i cannot identify, i need to boost my Decipher skill), as well as a cool picture...
Thanks a lot to him and you guys ! :)

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