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Elves have been a part of the world for as long as anyone can remember. Caretakers of the natural world, warriors against the tide of savagery, and scholars of the deepest secrets of magic, elves are among Golarion’s most mystical and mysterious races. This book presents the definitive word on how elves live, fight, worship, and relate with other races. The information contained herein presents a wealth of information about the elven race, with new rules, details on making elven characters, and an extensive exploration of their society, history, and goals as a people. Even if you aren’t playing an elf, this booklet contains new spells, magic items, and character options perfect for any character.

    Inside this Pathfinder Companion, you’ll find:
  • Details on the elven people of Golarion—where they live, their arts and magic, their pantheon of deities, and more!
  • An exploration of the beautiful—yet sometimes deadly—elven nation of Kyonin, the heart and soul of the Fair Ones on Golarion, including details on Queen Telandia herself
  • More Character Traits specifically designed to enhance and expand a new elf character’s history and background
  • Alchemical archery and new magic arrows, sacred pacts with elven gods, a plethora of magical meals, and the brightness seeker prestige class

Pathfinder Companion is an invaluable resource for players and Game Masters. Each 32-page bimonthly installment explores a major theme in the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting, with expanded regional gazetteers, new player character options, and organizational overviews to help players flesh out their character backgrounds and to provide players and Game Masters with new sources for campaign intrigue.

Written by Jeff Quick and Hal Maclean

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-143-5

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The fabled fabulous elves (part one)

1/5

I have read a fair amount of pathfinder stuff and I have been impressed by the effort and quality of products. Then I read the book on elves and it was amazing.
Straight from the beginning, the condescension starts. Elves do not think less of the short-lived races since they’re lifetimes come and go in the blink of an eye and they won’t live long enough to truly master any discipline. Its nothing personal, just bad luck on the part of the other races. Really? What about certain key figures like the wizard king and lich king Nex and Geb. The runelords or Lord Belkzen who united the orcs. Cavalry of Lastwall which managed to route 2000 orcs with 17 cavalry members? None of those were elves, yet all of them were very prominent historical figures in their own way. (I’d like to see 17 elves route 2000 orcs)Stranget thing is, don’t hear any mention of famous elven figures anywhere. Yes, very odd indeed for a race which has “mastered” their disciplines.
Under brief history, it mentions that humans rapidly multiplied and vile things clawed at the edges of their lands. The elves fought but despite being worth 10 humans for each elf, they clearly could not win. They left before the starstone struck for their beloved original plane of existence. Watching in frustration as their homes were looted by vandals. Duh! If you abandon your home, it doesn’t take a genius to realise you’re turning over whatever is left to whoever passes through. You are so wise and yet didn’t see this coming?
Furthermore, they just upped and left the forests? Yet they are able to return with no direct repercussions. The god of nature Erastil welcomes them back with open arms for abandoning his beloved gardens and creatures. The fey get along famously with them having being abandoned. Decades pass and they trust the elves again. Really? There are no drawbacks? I’d hate to think the wrath of a god is a few showers in the early morning and afternoon with the next day’s forecast as mildly cloudy. The fey get back to trusting them again so easily? Gaps in logic and consistency here.
The non-elves wonder why elves are not all master swordsmen or powerful wizards. There it states they measure success differently, wealth and reputation are but distractions to the more important things like honour and seeking enlightenment. Well, that’s all good and dandy but is it not common sense to ensure your wizards can hold their own in combat, your soldiers can stand toe to toe with invaders coming to take your lands? If not, you won’t live to attain enlightenment and honour.
Elves who interact with “transient” races are already on the outliers of society. Just by that reason alone they are outliers of their society. A learned and wise race which closes itself off from the other races is blinded by its own “wisdom”. Isolationism breeds stagnation, not development not the furthering of disciplines. They can maintain their standards but sooner or later they will be surpassed as everyone who is learning from everyone else.
The part on where an elf will still be around when the last monument crumbles.
Highly doubtful there. Dwarves forge item and buildings which last a long time. The Thassilonians had monuments, some of which still stand in golarion and that was 10,000 years ago. An elf doesn’t live to be even 1000 years old. Complete contradiction and b%+#%+#* there.
It states that the most powerful wizards can sense the presence of magical auras without even looking. The only class which can do that is the warlock which can cast detect magic at will. Elves are not magical, they are not nishrus. They frown upon the channelling of innate mystical power like the sorcerer and warlock. Since wizards will know thousands of spells by the time the sorcerer knows dozens. Complete stigmatization of two spell casting disciplines which have their place. You may have variety but they can cast more times per day than you. Variety is pointless if one cannot implement it. Keep in mind this is the decision of a highly intellectual and superiorly wise race.
Under the description of rangers and wizards, rangers are the frontiersmen
and all that. Wizards however are highly respected since arcane magic is the pinnacle of study and concentration. That’s fine but you sure you want favour mystical librarians so highly over your own soldiers. Not realising that being a ranger has its place in their society and not below wizards screams ignorance and blind arrogance.
Elven elders which tend to be wizards and give advice which is highly respected. They speak cryptically and their younger members aren’t sure they’ve gotten the message. Lets think about this. 20,000 orcs storm Kyonin. The younger wizards ask the elders for advice. They say something like:”if it is destined to happen as failure is the mother of success.” Then teleport away goodness knows where. This could be interpreted a number of different ways. What if one of them decided to let the orcs advance a bit more. Let the rangers fight them out. A lot will die but perhaps a weakness in the orcish lines could be found. They’re just rangers after all, not wizards right?
Then the book speaks of honour as being highly emphasized. Its apparently all about friendship and keeping one’s word. However, when elves get into feuds they don’t desire a one on one duel. This is frowned upon. They instead prefer to take apart the other persons life piece by piece and thoroughly destroy them. So let me get this straight. A show of mutual elven respect and honour through duelling is laughed at as opposed to trickery and slow excruciating pain. Does this not scream sadism on a severe scale? A dodgy rogue would do something like this while a knight would scoff in disgust. What part of that is honourable?
The elves are supposedly consummate craftsmen. They import raw minerals but look on with disdain when it comes to smelting. That’s all good to get past the mining. However, without smelting there is no crafting. I suppose one could get around this with spells but spells are not permanent. Adding the cost of permanency on an item regardless of whether it is magical would be ridiculous. Not even their own people would buy from them since permanency spells cost thousands of gold pieces.
From there it moves on to relations. Elves hate orcs and vice-versa. A half-orc holds dim hopes of being close to an elf. If he conducts himself with dignity and honour, he may win grudging respect. Elves do not differentiate them from their full-blooded kin. After a half-orc saves an elf a dozen times from the brink of death, braves the blistering elements of the desert and the blistering cold of the frozen tundra, the best he can hope for is grudging respect? Sorry to say that sounds like pure ungrateful selfishness and arrogance there. “Regardless of what you do I will never truly treat you as an equal” is what it is saying. Furthermore, deliberately not making the differentiation and just lumping them in with their hated foes sounds like simply lazy convenience. To not realise that there are exceptions in every race is an error born through lack of knowing and information. Hardly wise or learned.
There it goes to religion and it just gets better. It says elves pay homage to any god but most shun evil or corrupt deities. Calistria is the most widely worshipped of elven gods. What? Do the elves know what Calistria stands for? She may not be evil herself but she could swing towards it easily. No solid allegiance on any set beliefs or commitment. Beauty and cold vengeance are all that matter. Vengeance and justice are not always on the same page and the fact that she is widely worshipped contradicts this.

link to part 2: look to the comments section.


Worshipful

1/5

This was neither balanced nor objective. It reads like a pro-elf propaganda book. They can do so much, they have such potential, they are lazy and have a philosophy of inaction but can easily become experts in anything and masters of magic and the bow. I find it all a little unbelievable that the isolationists who distrust and look down upon outsiders (and even look down upon the elves that encounter outsiders) could truly be so proficient, widely-skilled, wise and all-knowing. That the gods are desperate for the attentions of the fence-sitters was laughable, even more so that the average elf can bargain and make pacts with the gods if in trouble. Don't they have quite the powerful position, aren't the elves in such a great spot as the gods wait on their every word? The prestige class was an over-powered joke, allowing a pick and choose of some truly powerful abilities, and for elves to get around their weak hp with a nice boost to natural ac.

1 star. With their weaknesses and lack of specialisation (they all farm, they all fence, they all are beautiful dandies) it stands as one of those illogical situations in Golarion that they haven't been invaded and scattered. They are unjustly too proud, and it comes across very clearly in the writing.




32 content-rich pages...

5/5

At first, I was a bit taken aback by the asking price for this product: $10 for 32 pages? Really? Having received my copy, I've officially been swayed.

In just 32 pages, you've succeeded in presenting more content than the competition could hope to get out in two or three hardbound tomes. This book isn't filled with new rules or tables - this is all rich material which a GM can use to help in fleshing out any campaign world. Keep these racial expansions coming! And while you're at it, some "Companion" publications on the various base character classes would be awesome ;)


A good book , but it feels like it could have had more . . .

3/5

I can't quite put my finger on it, but while I like this book, and I certainly think its worth the money, and there are even some nice RP hooks and elven eccentricities, like magical food, in the book, I think it felt more like fine tuning elves a little to fit in Golarion than really grabbing me and hitting a home run.

I wouldn't not have wanted a radically different approach to elves, but at the same time, I'm not sure what its missing, but its not quite "there."

Still, its a good book, worth the money, and gives you some nice RP "flair" to hang on a Golarion elf to personalize it to the setting, and I can't fault that.


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Scarab Sages

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I got my book today and man I'm enjoying the read. The only thing I m having an issue with is the lack of more info on the Forsaken. The written info is too short. But overall the book is great.

Contributor

Haldir wrote:
I think the book was ok, but I think that may have been the size of the book (seems really thin when you compare it to other Pathfinder (not including the adv path books). That said, I think the info inside was very informative. Hated seeing reprinted stuff in it thou, but I like the traits section + other the other stuff that that Vic mentioned.

What reprinted stuff are you seeing in this book?


For the price of this book it was money well spent. I thought it was just the right length for this type of book. The old Complete Elves of 2E and even the Races of Destiny were a little too long winded IMHO.

I liked the Elven Traits, Alchemical Archery, Stronger Magic, and Magic Foods from a crunch perspective. The Racial and Kyonin fluff sections reminded me of the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer (a huge compliment in my book). The Info on the inside of the front cover is also convenient. I like the way the book is laid out.

This book is all bang for the buck. If Jeff, Hal, and Sean give the rest of the races the same treatment, Ill be perfectly satisfied.

Nice Work.

Sovereign Court

Hal Maclean wrote:


"attracted to metal..." D'oh! Good catch. :)

I used to be a physics teacher and examiner, so it's something I've seen rather a lot.

However, I really do like the book. I'm happy if this is the template for race (include human subraces) books.

Sovereign Court

grifter7 wrote:

I got my book today and man I'm enjoying the read. The only thing I m having an issue with is the lack of more info on the Forsaken. The written info is too short. But overall the book is great.

My feeling is that the Forsaken are the "elves that can be absolutely any way you want" (which is good for chargen and playing purposes). A designer's note to that effect (if that is the case) would have been helpful, though (or maybe I'm just wrong).

Dark Archive

I was kind of hoping for more information about the Aquatic and Wild Elves. I'm probably exagerrating, but it felt like the pictures of those two sub-races took up more of the book than the amount of space devoted to text about them.

I think, after the lightning-in-a-bottle debut of the Golarion goblin (mechanically the same, but thematically fresh), I'm kind of waiting for the next race re-imagining that makes me go 'WOW!' There was nothing *wrong* with Elves of Golarion, but I think the Goblin song set our standards unrealistically high...

And, as a PC race, I don't think Paizo could radically re-define Elves anyway, so it's a catch-22.

Liberty's Edge

i woudl wantto see more of the Mordent Spire elves...
i knew they grey elves, but now i found them more enigmatic and strange, i really want moreon that area :P (one of my PCs is from there and now i see why she is out... she never fit :P)

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Sunderstone wrote:

For the price of this book it was money well spent. I thought it was just the right length for this type of book. The old Complete Elves of 2E and even the Races of Destiny were a little too long winded IMHO.

I liked the Elven Traits, Alchemical Archery, Stronger Magic, and Magic Foods from a crunch perspective. The Racial and Kyonin fluff sections reminded me of the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer (a huge compliment in my book). The Info on the inside of the front cover is also convenient. I like the way the book is laid out.

This book is all bang for the buck. If Jeff, Hal, and Sean give the rest of the races the same treatment, Ill be perfectly satisfied.

Nice Work.

Thank you very much :) It's always a difficult balancing act but I'm glad we produced something you can use.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Bagpuss wrote:
Hal Maclean wrote:


"attracted to metal..." D'oh! Good catch. :)

I used to be a physics teacher and examiner, so it's something I've seen rather a lot.

However, I really do like the book. I'm happy if this is the template for race (include human subraces) books.

Speaking as a fan (as well as a contributer) I'll agree 100% with you there.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

CharlieRock wrote:
this volume seems to be having a hard time making it to the flgs. =/

The retail release date isn't until November 12.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Hi! did Elaine Cunningham contribute to this book?

Nope. Elaine's working on the Pathfinder Journals that will be published in Pathfinder 19–24.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Haldir wrote:
I think the book was ok, but I think that may have been the size of the book (seems really thin when you compare it to other Pathfinder (not including the adv path books).

I have to say that I'm personally very proud of the value proposition we have on the Pathfinder Companion line. It's the least expensive regular Pathfinder product we sell, yet it's 32 pages—the same size as the Pathfinder Modules.

Look at 32-page products from other companies, and I think you'll find that they all:
A) cost several dollars more
B) have black-and-white interiors
and/or
C) provide less content (by word count or pretty much any other metric)
and often, D) all of the above.

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Bagpuss wrote:
grifter7 wrote:

I got my book today and man I'm enjoying the read. The only thing I m having an issue with is the lack of more info on the Forsaken. The written info is too short. But overall the book is great.

My feeling is that the Forsaken are the "elves that can be absolutely any way you want" (which is good for chargen and playing purposes). A designer's note to that effect (if that is the case) would have been helpful, though (or maybe I'm just wrong).

There still should have more of a write up about the Forsaken in the book not a re hash what is in the big world book that came out at Gen Con. But I'm liking the rest of the book.

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
Haldir wrote:
I think the book was ok, but I think that may have been the size of the book (seems really thin when you compare it to other Pathfinder (not including the adv path books).

I have to say that I'm personally very proud of the value proposition we have on the Pathfinder Companion line. It's the least expensive regular Pathfinder product we sell, yet it's 32 pages—the same size as the Pathfinder Modules.

Look at 32-page products from other companies, and I think you'll find that they all:
A) cost several dollars more
B) have black-and-white interiors
and/or
C) provide less content (by word count or pretty much any other metric)
and often, D) all of the above.

i agree

i received mine physically yesterday, and i rember it feel "bigger" in PDF (due to the fact that i have not finished it yet :P)

but the full book is colored, the art interior is amazing and what i read about the elves iswhat i wanted: their nature, their organization, their realm, and few extras... i hate those books that give you just a bit of what is important and then fill the the rest with just mechanics, like prestigue classes, and similar thing

but elves of Golarion left in me a pretty good taste... i love the importance you give to elven's bright, and the possibility that half-elven souls could be part of the elven reencarnation cycle...

to the writer i would say its a good job

still too little on the Grey elves ofthe Mordent Spire...

Vic do you know if we will have something in the future about them in any of the products?


Vic Wertz wrote:
CharlieRock wrote:
this volume seems to be having a hard time making it to the flgs. =/
The retail release date isn't until November 12.

Oh, good. Was hoping this wasnt a website exclusive.

The Exchange

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I just opened the book for the first time and now I'm searching for my chin under the table. Once again you got me with this incredible artwork (Eva, Julie, Andrew and Ben, all of you did an amazing job).

Now if the content is half as good as the artwork (and given who the contributors are I have high expectations) this thing is worth every bit of copper I spent for it. Haven't read anything so far as I can't stop myself admiring Ben's Cover :).

By the way, as I see that you're lurking in this thread:

Hal, I've just started an elven Wu Jen hoping to become a master astrologer one day. Your article about "Astrology in D&D" has been a great inspiration since I read it the first time and finally I can make use of all the great content written by you, E.W. Morton, Craig Campbell and Chris Tulach in Dragon #340. So thanks a lot for the fun I'm having right now.

Liberty's Edge

errata

in pag 27, the price of "Snowberry Fire Peppers" is 600 GPs, bu the cost for making it is 3000 gps, i will supose there is an extra 0 in the 3000 gps cost

just one thing about that seccion... elven food? elven food! i loved the elven food!!!!

you did posible the creation of LotR Lembas!!!
gah!!! my cleric don't have enought skills or feats for this, and yet i love the idea of having her doing Waybread!!

ok... I still 3 levels to go and decide on this... but but... i really like it!

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

WormysQueue wrote:


By the way, as I see that you're lurking in this thread:

Hal, I've just started an elven Wu Jen hoping to become a master astrologer one day. Your article about "Astrology in D&D" has been a great inspiration since I read it the first time and finally I can make use of all the great content written by you, E.W. Morton, Craig Campbell and Chris Tulach in Dragon #340. So thanks a lot for the fun I'm having right now.

I'm glad you're getting a chance to use it. Hopefully it won't disappoint. That article was one of my favorites to write. I had to go through three or four editors before I finally found one willing to greenlight the pitch so I have a bit of sentimental attachment to it as well. :)

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Montalve wrote:

errata

in pag 27, the price of "Snowberry Fire Peppers" is 600 GPs, bu the cost for making it is 3000 gps, i will supose there is an extra 0 in the 3000 gps cost

just one thing about that seccion... elven food? elven food! i loved the elven food!!!!

you did posible the creation of LotR Lembas!!!
gah!!! my cleric don't have enought skills or feats for this, and yet i love the idea of having her doing Waybread!!

ok... I still 3 levels to go and decide on this... but but... i really like it!

I don't have the book in front of me so I can't say anything too specific about the pricing issue until I get to check it for myself.

As for the rest. Yes! Someone who's obsessed with elven food as me! :) Ever since I first read LotR I've been fascinated by the idea, and when I got a chance to work on this project the first thought that popped into my head was, "Finally! Magical meals."

I'm just glad it didn't get cut... :)

Liberty's Edge

I just want to know if the answer the question as to whether elves take forever to reach the same look in age as adulthood or not.

You know, like if a 20 year old elf looks like a 20 year old then STOPS aging for the most part, or if a 20 year old elf looks like an 8 year old. I was really wanting to get this book and was hoping that simple that was at least answered.

Silver Crusade

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Haldir wrote:
I think the book was ok, but I think that may have been the size of the book (seems really thin when you compare it to other Pathfinder (not including the adv path books). That said, I think the info inside was very informative. Hated seeing reprinted stuff in it thou, but I like the traits section + other the other stuff that that Vic mentioned.
What reprinted stuff are you seeing in this book?

Sean,

first off sorry for the late response. After all this time not used to this style of message board (even with the dots).

Anyways, I guess what I meant by reprinted stuff was the gods section, but that is because I seen it also in the gods book that I got at the same time. Artwork obviously the same, made me think that is was printed. Thou most information regarding the gods & deities of Golarion will have some sorta reprinted information leading up to guide on them.

Sorry about that.
RM

Contributor

Montalve wrote:
in pag 27, the price of "Snowberry Fire Peppers" is 600 GPs, bu the cost for making it is 3000 gps, i will supose there is an extra 0 in the 3000 gps cost

Yes, cost to create is just 300 gp, not 3,000 gp. My bad!

just one thing about that seccion... elven food? elven food! i loved the elven food!!!!

you did posible the creation of LotR Lembas!!!
gah!!! my cleric don't have enought skills or feats for this, and yet i love the idea of having her doing Waybread!!

ok... I still 3 levels to go and decide on this... but but... i really like it!

I don't have the book in front of me so I can't say anything too specific about the pricing issue until I get to check it for myself.

As for the rest. Yes! Someone who's obsessed with elven food as me! :) Ever since I first read LotR I've been fascinated by the idea, and when I got a chance to work on this project the first thought that popped into my head was, "Finally! Magical meals."

Hal wrote:
... when I got a chance to work on this project the first thought that popped into my head was, "Finally! Magical meals." I'm just glad it didn't get cut... :)

Me, too! :)

Liberty's Edge

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Yes, cost to create is just 300 gp, not 3,000 gp. My bad!

thanks :)

supposed so
yet needed to be sure

and yes i am gald this made the cut, its something i haven't thought in eyars, but when i saw it i perused with some interest, calculating cost (i don't take item creation feats in general) but when i arrived to Waybread i just fell in love understanding from where it all came, and how deep rooted magic is elven culture

Contributor

BTW sorry for including some extraneous quoted text in my reply up there. The only comments from me were:

I don't have the book in front of me so I can't say anything too specific about the pricing issue until I get to check it for myself.

and

Me, too! :)

Liberty's Edge

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

BTW sorry for including some extraneous quoted text in my reply up there. The only comments from me were:

I don't have the book in front of me so I can't say anything too specific about the pricing issue until I get to check it for myself.

and

Me, too! :)

i thout it was: Yes, cost to create is just 300 gp, not 3,000 gp. My bad!

but no worries... i did understood

Liberty's Edge

So do they discuss their aging process?

Liberty's Edge

Misery wrote:
So do they discuss their aging process?

no

only thing lacking
they just slow slower than the other races
thatis why i believe they grow slowly, about 50 years they would look like 10 or 12

Liberty's Edge

Thats disappointing. I know the elf chick from the 1st adventure path (Merisial?) had a history stating a bit of info like they aged slower but was hoping for something more solid and in depth.

Ah well, book of wild still holds till they do for me i guess.


So, is there any indication as to when we can expect companion books for Dwarves (or other races)?

Liberty's Edge

DarkArt wrote:
So, is there any indication as to when we can expect companion books for Dwarves (or other races)?

for what has been discused in other threads right now there are no specific plans...

also as Jacobs doesn't like dwarves :P...
lol he also says he is not the only onetaking the decision... but yes nothing on the schedule


Thanks for the reply, Montalve.
I think it's a horrible tease to invent racial traits but to only have planned on releasing elvish ones.
I also think it'll be ironic if psionic crunch sees print before other racial traits.

For me, that makes Elves of Golarion all the more bitter. I like Elves just about as much as I'm guessing James likes Dwarves, and this book delighted me very much when I wasn't really expecting it to. I just don't get excited about Elves, but this book actually has me intrigued with them for the first time. Touches such as including magic meals and a stat block of the Queen sealed the deal. As much as I had enjoyed this book, it had increased my anticipation for similar treatment for the Dwarves only to be horribly dashed that this will be but an impossible dream.

Sovereign Court

DarkArt wrote:
. As much as I had enjoyed this book, it had increased my anticipation for similar treatment for the Dwarves only to be horribly dashed that this will be but an impossible dream.

It's not an impossible dream. "Not on the schedule right now" means simply that they're waiting to see if the numbers justify making another race book like this - and honestly, the money making APs and big risky PFRPG are pretty much consuming the entirety of the development staff's attention right now.

It's almost certain that the next "Race of Golarion" book will be Dwarves of Golarion, simply based on the number of purchasing fans out there. *I* have to deal with the sensible notion of the publishers that Gnomes of Golarion might not sell enough to justify the cost.

Silver Crusade

I for one would have love to have seen dwarves out first but I guess I'm a bit impartial to dwarves, being they are my favorite fantasy race to play(dwarven fighter-clerics!!!!).

Thou, with the latest AP focusing allot on elves (drow & otherwise) I can see why elves got the push first thou (that & one of the first iconics is a elf of course).

Hopefully maybe other racial traits will come out in the Rulebook or maybe as a online treat.

RM

Liberty's Edge

I was reading through again and noticed something that might not have been thought out when concerning the Duelist PrC.

In the Faith section, under Shelywn's Warm Embrace, whenever you fight defensively or use total defense, you gain a sacred bonus to saves equal to one half of the AC bonus you gained by taking the action.

... as a duelist, the AC gained from THAT action is between 13-16. So yours saves would shoot up by 6-8 points?

Wording leans that way ...


cappadocius wrote:


It's almost certain that the next "Race of Golarion" book will be Dwarves of Golarion, simply based on the number of purchasing fans out there. *I* have to deal with the sensible notion of the publishers that Gnomes of Golarion might not sell enough to justify the cost.

For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.


doppelganger wrote:
cappadocius wrote:


It's almost certain that the next "Race of Golarion" book will be Dwarves of Golarion, simply based on the number of purchasing fans out there. *I* have to deal with the sensible notion of the publishers that Gnomes of Golarion might not sell enough to justify the cost.
For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.

Me too. Gnomes rock.


GAAAHHHH wrote:
doppelganger wrote:
For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.
Me too. Gnomes rock.

Golarion's gnomes rock. :)

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber
Lilith wrote:
GAAAHHHH wrote:
doppelganger wrote:
For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.
Me too. Gnomes rock.
Golarion's gnomes rock. :)

I agree. They are some greatly underappreciated menaces.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Lilith wrote:
GAAAHHHH wrote:
doppelganger wrote:
For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.
Me too. Gnomes rock.
Golarion's gnomes rock. :)

Well, I hear Golarion's rocks totally gnome.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Vic Wertz wrote:
Lilith wrote:
GAAAHHHH wrote:
doppelganger wrote:
For what it's worth, I would run out and buy Gnomes of Golarion as soon as it was available.
Me too. Gnomes rock.
Golarion's gnomes rock. :)
Well, I hear Golarion's rocks totally gnome.

Not all of 'em can be successes, Vic. We appreciate the effort to keep the boards a fun and humorous place, though, so we overlook the times that it just doesn't work the way you might originally intend.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

yoda8myhead wrote:
Not all of 'em can be successes, Vic. We appreciate the effort to keep the boards a fun and humorous place, though, so we overlook the times that it just doesn't work the way you might originally intend.

I can read between the lines... I know you loved it.


Vic Wertz wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
Not all of 'em can be successes, Vic. We appreciate the effort to keep the boards a fun and humorous place, though, so we overlook the times that it just doesn't work the way you might originally intend.
I can read between the lines... I know you loved it.

I certainly did!

And I present you with the Seal of Approval!

Arf! Arf! Arf!

Liberty's Edge

Great book from my flick through I have to say Good job done by all.

I like the way that it presents Elves as a whole and goes into each of the sub races.

Good work

Dark Archive

Hal Maclean wrote:


I don't have the book in front of me so I can't say anything too specific about the pricing issue until I get to check it for myself.

As for the rest. Yes! Someone who's obsessed with elven food as me! :) Ever since I first read LotR I've been fascinated by the idea, and when I got a chance to work on this project the first thought that popped into my head was, "Finally! Magical meals."

I'm just glad it didn't get cut... :)

All in all, this sounds like a very good product, and an ideal christmas present for myself! :D I'm glad if there are magical food/drinks in the book, because it fits perfectly my own image of the elven culture.

BTW, The best sources on elves I have seen so far and used (in my FR campaigns) were Ed Greenwood's 'Cormyr: a novel' and Elaine Cunningham's 'Evermeet: island of elves'. So, I have really high hopes for whatever Elaine is writing for Paizo! :)

Dark Archive

Vic,

will there be any chance for "crunch" updates when PF RPG comes out? I know it should be easy to do yourself, but some mechanics may still get revised a bit, and end up being very different from 3E (e.g. certain spells or feats that a product refers to might be *very* different in PF RPG or not exist at all).

Maybe free, downloadable PDFs for all the PF Companion products and CS? :)


Just arrived today after exactly 9 working days ^^

A first note:
The description about elves given in the first few pages is a sort of standard 'primer to elves for the new and clueless' which, to older players who may still have the complete book of elves from 2nd edition may seem like a repetition of the already known and stated, but it still is a great few lines for those who first look at the race in-depth.

It also shows that golarion elves are not entirely so different than your good old everyday other DND elf.

Two things I am disappointed about is the prestige class. Some may disagree, but the path given in this book is sort of NPC-ey - I don't imagine many players in my campaign would be charmed into playing it. It does not fit any spellcaster classes as it does not add any caster levels and the low attack bonus will probably disorient fighter-types from picking it.
I suppose I was hoping towards something like the return of a worthy bladesinger class to the game, which I've not seen since 2nd edition, or a mordant spire inspired one, perhaps even something from the winter council, oh well!

Second, the elven queen's stat block seems a bit sub-par to me. Although I like the 2nd ed feeling these not-too-high-level-but-still-epic-npc give, but she could use a bit of extra omph.

(After a quick breakdown, her original unmodified by race or items statblock comes out at a total cost of 24 points in creation, which is 1 less from the 'epic fantasy' point selection. This is awesome for an NPC of this magnitude, but her crown which disables her from wearing a headband of intellect is a bit of a kick in the groin. She could still come out large and in-charge by researching a permanency spell on a maximized fox cunning spell, and with the PF rules she also gets a +2 racial int buff and 2 extra hps per level according to the conversion rules which puts her in a good place. 27 int sounds much better for a queen of elves rather than 20, which will likely be outmatched by an elf PC by level 8 or 12. I might go make my own version of her on the forums just for kicks later, using the same good logic of non-munchkinism)

Other than that, this is most likely my favorite PF companion thus far. Firstly because it speaks of my favorite race (can you tell :P) in extensive detail, and second because it gives me a lot of new information on areas I am more than likely to use in the campaign I presently run.

I would go as far as to say 'elves of golarion' is a must have for anyone planning to run an elf-involving campaign on golarion, and a great roleplay-resource and background information crate of treasures for anyone who wants to start an elf in this new amazing world.

Liberty's Edge

i agree, elves of Golarion is a great book, loved since i got it...

i disagree withh Vak... i usually don't persue the use of prestigue class but the seeker of the bright attracts me for RPG reasons... already my elven bard / captain is looking for the bright, while she founds its she just traveles where the wind takes her...

after having a few or many levels of bard focused in oratory an giving order to her crew...

i like the queen, since i try strongly to discourage PC of wearing a dozen or so magic items... i do the same with NPCs, the queen does pretty good by herself and also she is not supposed to be Epic nor to fight alone, her strategies and reasoning are great so i believe she will endure.

i myself give offer magic shops in them there are only sold magic regents and in cities a few minor magic items... but otherwise no i don't offer such posibilities...

i see as munchikinsm the persue of the full christmas tree syndrome... but that is me... i do prefer to strenghten magic instead of making magic items indispensable.


I'm against munchkinism as well. I use the same logic with players.

I always discourage pc's from taking too many 'leet feats' and all those character build programs some tend to draft up since lv 1.

Its not the magical items of the queen I commented on, or her feat list, but the fluff of buffs a 15th level wizard imo 'should' have.

I suppose I have the tendency to play out important or major npcs just as if they were PC's, so if the pc's have developed 'tricks' with which to deal with situations, so will the important npc's.

What I suggested was an addition to her buff list, along with a permanency spell.

Modifying her to pathfinder, I would further make her an enchanter or conjurer, most likely conjurer, even though enchantment seems to be the trademark elven school.

Liberty's Edge

oh point taken... maybe wizard alone, but maybe conjurer, she does have a tendency to conjure allies more than enchant rivals...

je i like the background on her... poor queen she should be falling in madness trying to organize... people unable to irganize themselves... except for war :P


Too bad her actual age isn't listed.

I'd like to know if this is a 1342 years old queen or one that just got the crown- Unless I missed something.

In my mind and according to her persona file, I'd picture her as a fairly young elven queen, in her early 200's. She seems to be more progressive than the average elf, which would make new experiences (and levels) come faster to her than most elven way-living elves (as opposed to adventuring elves matching their paces with humans)

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