Pathfinder Chronicles: Campaign Setting (OGL)

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Note: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: The Inner Sea World Guide has replaced this volume as the main Pathfinder campaign setting book. The newer volume has been expanded and updated, and is designed for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. And the PDF is cheaper, too!

Golarion, the exciting world of the Pathfinder Adventure Paths and Pathfinder Modules, comes alive in this massive 256-page full-color hardcover tome primed up and ready to go for your new campaign! Detailed sections on more than 40 nations—from the frontiers of Varisia to the devil-tainted cities of Cheliax to the frigid Hold of the Mammoth Lords—provide a full picture of the world of the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting, with new rules, new magic and spells, detailed descriptions of more than twenty gods and their religions, and a gorgeous poster map detailing the entire campaign setting. The Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting provides classic adventuring style and cutting-edge game design perfectly suitable for the world’s most popular roleplaying game!


Written by (in alphabetical order):

Stan!
Keith Baker
Wolfgang Baur
Clinton J. Boomer
Jason Bulmahn
Joshua J. Frost
Ed Greenwood
Stephen S. Greer
Jeff Grubb
James Jacobs
Michael Kortes
Tito Leati
Mike McArtor
Rob McCreary
Erik Mona
Jason Eric Nelson
Jeff Quick
Sean K Reynolds
David Schwartz
Leandra Christine Schneider
F. Wesley Schneider
Amber E. Scott
Owen K.C. Stephens
Todd Stewart
James L. Sutter
Greg A. Vaughan
Jeremy Walker
JD Wiker
Also included are essays on world-building written by Robert J. Kuntz and R.A. Salvatore.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-112-1

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Só vale a pena se você quer continuar no 3.5E e por acaso se interessou pelo mundo. Qualquer outra situação, o Inner Sea Guide tem quase todo o conteúdo que esse tem (falta o guia de pronunciação apenas) e é mais aprofundado, maior e com ilustrações e cartografia melhores. De qualquer forma, o diferencial de Golarion é só a maturidade com que algumas questões como escravidão, guerra, sexualidade, e os males da humanidade são tratados, no resto é um mundo bem genérico (embora muito bem escrito).


An excellent, if slightly flawed resource!

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(Re-posting my Amazon review, here)

A lot of this review is going to be negative, so let me start out by saying, I love this world, and this is an excellent source book. I'm nit-picking because I feel there's so much to improve, but where they started is amazing.

Also worth note before I get started: there is a new version coming out sometime in early 2011, so if you can get this book at cover price, it's probably still worth it, but some of the crazy prices I've seen at 2-5 times the cover price are definitely not worth paying. The new version will be an update to the latest Pathfinder rules (this edition is just OGL-compatible), which means you can expect the sections about character classes to change, but that's probably about it. There's not much "crunch" in this book, as one might expect, and so a rules update is kind of tangential to its content. There is also a book about the Inner Sea region coming out (Pathfinder Campaign Setting World Guide: The Inner Sea (Revised Edition)), so if you are specifically interested in that region, you might want to go that route either alone or in addition.

Now to the review. The cover art is blurry. An odd defect, given Paizo's usual standards, but I'll assume this is an artifact of their early rush to print when they were just getting started in the post-Dragon/Dungeon magazines era.

Inside, the book is beautiful. The art is spot-on and really gives a sense of the world. The poster map that comes with the book is excellent, if somewhat more sparse on detail than I would have expected. The races are wonderful. I especially love what they've done with gnomes: a race I previously couldn't care less about is now one of my favorites!

However, as you start to read, you definitely get the sense that someone forgot to write the introduction chapter. You end up having to essentially read the entire book cover-to-cover in order to make sense of the world. An intro that told us, "This is Golarion. Most of the action will take place in or within 1000 miles of the Inner Sea, a temperate sea that acts as the divide between the two major continents...." and so on. Not an in-depth view of the countries and peoples. There's plenty of that later on, but just a quick intro so that I don't feel lost the first time a major country or god's name is dropped as if I'm supposed to know what it means. I actually bought this book because the Adventure Paths were giving me the same lost feeling, and it solved that problem, but only after I slogged through most of the book (starting with the History chapter helped a bit).

In the writeups of the races, I have roughly the same problem. You almost have to start reading them from the middle, because that's usually where they get around to explaining who and what they are, rather than how they found themselves in some historical calamity, but again these write-ups are brilliant. Gnomes are much improved over their D&D roots, but every race has some excellent flavor to it. Elves will definitely be interesting. They're not really very nice, and I like that about them. In fact, between the Elves and the Drow, it's actually hard to choose a group to support, but the Drow have a point in feeling abandoned and wronged by the other elves.

Humans are my favorite race, however. I love the fact that they're not just the everyman white, European analog with a few ethnic minorities thrown in for flavor that most fantasy games have. They're a diverse mix of humanity both fantastic and realistic, and the Inner Sea is ideally located to be a mixing pot of Arabesque and pseudo-Eruopean influences of many flavors.

Overall, this is an excellent resource. If you're looking for a fully realized world on which to base a campaign, this is definitely it. If you're looking for a quick reference, then I suggest picking up the smaller Chronicles books such as Gods & Magic and Guide to Absalom that suit your needs.


An excellent, if somewhat predictable, setting

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You can read my complete review on my blog:
http://rpg.brouhaha.us/?p=2915


Campaign 'Must Have'

****( )

A definite must-have for those playing Pathfinder Golarion setting; very useful for DM's, player's that want their PC's to have a more fuller background, and definitely for those that are members of the Pathfinder Society. My only wish is that it was just a little bit more meaty-er (by my tastes).


Excellent setting

*****

Extremely well written campaign setting, as stated mostly exposition of setting materials with few actual rules additions (it is a campaign setting book after all).

Richly detailed, excellent take on many of the standars of the genre.


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Liberty's Edge

Is this available now? Is there a PDF with it?

Liberty's Edge

mattdroz wrote:
Is this available now? Is there a PDF with it?

You can order it now.

You only get a free PDF with it as part of a Pathfinder Chronicles subscription, but if you want to pay extra, you can get it once the book hits stores.

Liberty's Edge

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
mattdroz wrote:
Is this available now? Is there a PDF with it?

You can order it now.

You only get a free PDF with it as part of a Pathfinder Chronicles subscription, but if you want to pay extra, you can get it once the book hits stores.

Thanks!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
mattdroz wrote:
Is this available now? Is there a PDF with it?

You can order it now.

You only get a free PDF with it as part of a Pathfinder Chronicles subscription, but if you want to pay extra, you can get it once the book hits stores.

Of course, if you start your Pathfinder Chronicles subscription now, you can still start with this volume, and so get the free PDF...

Liberty's Edge

ok ordered both this and the Pathfinder RPG Beta through Amazon a few minutes ago (i know i know, but i need Amazon's discount to cover the delivery fee and i have my credit card under surveillance... from my mother... ¬¬)

Dark Archive Contributor

Montalve wrote:
ok ordered both this and the Pathfinder RPG Beta through Amazon a few minutes ago (i know i know, but i need Amazon's discount to cover the delivery fee and i have my credit card under surveillance... from my mother... ¬¬)

Yay! Subterfuge! ^_^


How if at all is this Campaign Setting going to be affected by the release of the Pathfinder RPG rules next year? Will an update to the CS come out with rules changes to match the Pathfinder RPG rules set?

Dark Archive Contributor

Robert McCarthy 7 wrote:
How if at all is this Campaign Setting going to be affected by the release of the Pathfinder RPG rules next year? Will an update to the CS come out with rules changes to match the Pathfinder RPG rules set?

There should be very little impact on this book by the release of the PFRPG next August. The main changes that affect the PCCS hardcover are the domain powers and the NPC statblocks in the back. Otherwise, it should be pretty good as is. That's one of the many benefits of the PFRPG being so compatible with 3.5OGL. :)


Any chance of us getting that stuff in a PDF after release of the PFRPG?

Dark Archive Contributor

Robert McCarthy 7 wrote:
Any chance of us getting that stuff in a PDF after release of the PFRPG?

Uhh.... ask again in a year.

The Exchange

Just got mine in the mail a day or two ago. Awesome! I'm a bit bleary-eyed here at work, since I stayed up WAAAAAY past my bedtime reading this masterpiece.

BIG QUESTION: When will the PDF be available in the Paizo Store?

-Derek


Didn't see this question posted so here goes.

For Mike McArtor, Erik Mona, or F. Wesley, what is the scale of the small maps of the regions inside the section detailing those? For example, Cheliax and Taldor.

Liberty's Edge

I just checked Amazon and they say this book comes out in Sept 2008 and is currently available for PRE-ORDER. So, to everyone that has actually picked this up, have any of you actually purchased it from Amazon or has everyone gotten it directly from Paizo?

Thanks!

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
Marc Radle 81 wrote:

I just checked Amazon and they say this book comes out in Sept 2008 and is currently available for PRE-ORDER. So, to everyone that has actually picked this up, have any of you actually purchased it from Amazon or has everyone gotten it directly from Paizo?

Thanks!

it takes about 3-4 weeks to get from paizo through diamond distributors and to the store's warehouse

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

Dark Archive Contributor

Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

Uhh... you do realize that Paizo aims a lot of its products at people who like the stuff written by the Old Guard, right? "Grognards," as they are sometimes called.

Liberty's Edge

Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
Mike McArtor wrote:
... you do realize that Paizo aims a lot of its products at people who like the stuff written by the Old Guard, right? "Grognards," as they are sometimes called.

I would be one of those to whom Paizo successfully caters.

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

Okay, but then there's me & mine - the Young-Punk Rabble-Rouser Skateboard-&-Switchblade Regiment, ourselves contributing quite a bit to the book as well.

And it's edited like a DREAM.

My guess is that the discerning RPG connoisseur will be both well-pleased and well-served by the book, specifically by the unique admixture represented in the combination of Veteran Guards with Aspiring Champions.

Liberty's Edge

Mike McArtor wrote:


Uhh... you do realize that Paizo aims a lot of its products at people who like the stuff written by the Old Guard, right? "Grognards," as they are sometimes called.

If you are into that, have a look here!

Contributor

thatboomerkid wrote:


Okay, but then there's me & mine - the Young-Punk Rabble-Rouser Skateboard-&-Switchblade Regiment, ourselves contributing quite a bit to the book as well.

Preach on brother. I didn't even play D&D till 3e, and I can probably count on a single hand how many 1e books I've read from cover to cover. I'm one of those cant speaking, dungeon-punk loving, anti-grognards in a lot of ways. ;)

Yet...

Let's just say that Paizo's style isn't locked into one demographic of taste and play style. If they can snag onto the old-school renaissance crowd and get me hooked at the same time, they're doing something right.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Design Lead

There are a lot of people on that list much, much more "old guardy" than I am.

And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.

Honestly, the direction I got for my small, humble section meant I wrote something very different that I have ever written for anyone else. I suspect the Paizo staff knows how to match writer to section well enough to keep their great fans very, very happy.

Scarab Sages

If I pick this up at GenCon, do I still get the PDF? What about any other Pathfinder materials (modules, etc.) that I pick up at GenCon?


As I work in a bookstore/gaming shop, I buy my paper copies of stuff directly from them. I have kinda grown a small happy group of pathfinder devotees here that I'm proud of, and figure that my purchases remain the primary reason for the store's support of pathfinder thus far. All this is said to begin a question as regards both this book, and the pathfinder society offerings:

Is it possible for me to get pdf downloads without purchasing the physical book online? I am planning to run society events scheduled through our store here, but will be managing the process personally, as we lack the space to run them on site!

Sovereign Court

Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

If you can pick out which sections were written by the Old Guard vs. which sections were written by the umm... Not-Old Guard, then I won't argue with you. But I would bet that you couldn't do it.


Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

G*@&$%n young punks! Always with the insults! Get offa my lawn!


I jusyt got this in the mail... and I'm in love.

Beautiful job guys and gals. My next campaingn will certainly be happening in Golarion. :o)

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Owen Stephens wrote:

There are a lot of people on that list much, much more "old guardy" than I am.

And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.

Honestly, the direction I got for my small, humble section meant I wrote something very different that I have ever written for anyone else. I suspect the Paizo staff knows how to match writer to section well enough to keep their great fans very, very happy.

Good point. In talking about writing stuff, I've had the good fortune or providential blessing to find opportunities offered that are good fits with my strengths, such as they may be.

I wonder if I'm Old Guardy. I feel old compared to in D&D years, but in terms of being a "writer of D&D stuff" I've only been doing that since like 2002. I wonder how you qualify for olde guardiness?

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

Owen Stephens wrote:
And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.

Did you use the passive voice here on purpose?

Timothy Thomas wrote:
If I pick this up at GenCon, do I still get the PDF? What about any other Pathfinder materials (modules, etc.) that I pick up at GenCon?

You can purchase pdfs for any product online. Free pdfs are an added bonus for subscribers, and any product that ships to you as part of a Pathfinder sub grants access to the pdf. Otherwise, they are a separate product which must be purchased individually.

Dark Archive Contributor

Zootcat wrote:
Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
If you can pick out which sections were written by the Old Guard vs. which sections were written by the umm... Not-Old Guard, then I won't argue with you. But I would bet that you couldn't do it.

Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel as though it was written by different authors when you read it from cover to cover. :)

Edit: Thanks AlexBlake! :D


Mike McArtor wrote:
Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel that way when you read it from cover to cover. :)

I think he means "it doesn't feel like it was written by a bunch of different authors, it's one cohesive whole."

and not, "there's no way you'd think this book was written by Talented and Excellent writers after I got through with it."

Dark Archive Contributor

AlexBlake wrote:
Mike McArtor wrote:
Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel that way when you read it from cover to cover. :)

I think he means "it doesn't feel like it was written by a bunch of different authors, it's one cohesive whole."

and not, "there's no way you'd think this book was written by Talented and Excellent writers after I got through with it."

ACK! Yes. I'm going to edit my post now.

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
Zonemind wrote:
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.

there is maybe one sentence per 'article' that you can read and go "that sounds like X's writing" the rest reads and sounds like a compilation of various voices.


Is there actually a pdf of this book? Because if there is I am not seeing it (and after someone points it out I will probably be thinking "Man I can't believe I missed that", but oh well) so could someone point it out

Liberty's Edge

I was wondering, just how much crossover there is between this book and the Gazzeteer?

I am interested in picking both up, but the budget is way too tight to justify picking both up if the amount of shared info is too great. From what I have seen and heard so far, Paizo is not in the habit of gouging their customers by publishing two books of similar material, but need to know in order to justify the expense to "higher"

(my past spending record has brought me to this sad, sad point so no one to blame but myself :( )


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Steven Purcell wrote:
Is there actually a pdf of this book? Because if there is I am not seeing it (and after someone points it out I will probably be thinking "Man I can't believe I missed that", but oh well) so could someone point it out

The PDF version doesn't go up for sale until the book hits retail shelves, which is usually a couple weeks or so after it ships to subscribers. In this case, I think I remember Vic stating that the PDF was going to be available on August 14th (I think).

EDIT. I checked on the other thread and yes, it's August 14th.

Dark Archive Contributor

Arda Badgerhill wrote:

I was wondering, just how much crossover there is between this book and the Gazzeteer?

I am interested in picking both up, but the budget is way too tight to justify picking both up if the amount of shared info is too great. From what I have seen and heard so far, Paizo is not in the habit of gouging their customers by publishing two books of similar material, but need to know in order to justify the expense to "higher"

(my past spending record has brought me to this sad, sad point so no one to blame but myself :( )

The crossover between those two books is pretty mighty. Think of the Gaz as the Hardcover Lite.

Sovereign Court

The picture on page 52, the first page of the Inner Sea chapter... is that the Arch of Aroden?

Dark Archive Contributor

Zootcat wrote:
The picture on page 52, the first page of the Inner Sea chapter... is that the Arch of Aroden?

Yes. :)

Liberty's Edge

Thanks Mike,

Hardcover it is then :)

Dark Archive

Has the CS book gone out to retailers yet? My FLGS has it in their computer but no release date is posted. Will it be possible to find on the shelves later this week?

I try to keep my purchases to the FLGS (with the exception of my AP sub).

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

BigDaddyG wrote:

Has the CS book gone out to retailers yet? My FLGS has it in their computer but no release date is posted. Will it be possible to find on the shelves later this week?

I try to keep my purchases to the FLGS (with the exception of my AP sub).

We've shipped to distributors; hopefully they've shipped to retailers. The street date is August 14.

Liberty's Edge

mine showed up today. VERY nice work, guys!

(well, except for the "reigon" thing on the poster map) ;)

(unless i'm missing something...)

Dark Archive

Vic Wertz wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:

Has the CS book gone out to retailers yet? My FLGS has it in their computer but no release date is posted. Will it be possible to find on the shelves later this week?

I try to keep my purchases to the FLGS (with the exception of my AP sub).

We've shipped to distributors; hopefully they've shipped to retailers. The street date is August 14.

WOO HOO!! Can't wait!!

Dark Archive

Just having skimmed the book at a friend's place, I can't say much. It looks great, and the new classes I think make it a brilliant resource for players and not just DMs. I wonder if those classes will also be included in the new Pathfinder RPG????? Any info available yet????

Just one minor bit of criticism... I was looking forward to reading the prefaces by Rob Kuntz and Bob Salvatore, since I'm a great fan of both authors. But it's pretty clear from having read their little prefaces now that neither of them had the complete product to look at and comment on. So what we get instead is generic remarks from them one might stick into ANY campaign setting, or even, if you will (sigh) into the 4th edition DM Guide. Which is a shame. This hardcover rocks, so why preface it by words of people who haven't read it????? (Please note, I'm just saying it READS as if Rob and Bob hadn't read it. If they have, mea culpa.) So my 5 cents of advice are. When you make Monte Cook write the preface of the PF RPG, please make sure he's commenting on the actual ruleset. Obviously he knows bits here and there, being an advisor, but what would be awesome is getting his *global take* on the PF RPG ruleset. I find there are few people in the industry who're capable of giving such a synopsis of a d20 based ruleset. Monte summing up in a nutshell what this revised version of 3.5 is all about would be a real selling point :)


I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.

Liberty's Edge

doppelganger wrote:

I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.

Please don't take this a rudness, but ...

Huh???!!??

Dark Archive Contributor

Marc Radle 81 wrote:
doppelganger wrote:

I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.

Please don't take this a rudness, but ...

Huh???!!??

Seconded. I'm confused.

Of course anything that talks about other products is going to be out of date in a month. There's nothing we could have done about that.

If the gang is feeling spunky and finally invented that 25th hour in the day, they might periodically go in and update the PDF of those pages, but I wouldn't ask them to do that and nor would I hold my breath.

Dark Archive

Well...This evening I made a few phone calls. Barnes&Noble, Borders, Walden and the FLGS. They all have them in their computer but no clue as to when they are going to get them. B&N's website says August 24th though. Grrrr.


Mike McArtor wrote:


Of course anything that talks about other products is going to be out of date in a month. There's nothing we could have done about that.

Paizo knows where at least the next 8 PAPs will be located on the map of Golarion. It wouldn't have taken an extra hour to the day to add them to the map as well. That is all I'm trying to say. It would have been nice for the map in the book to show all the PAPs instead of just those already published. It would have made the book seem 'fresher' until well into 2009.

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