I read a LOT of RPG-books in the past 18 years or so. And this is one of the best, probably THE best I´ve ever seen. I like Golarion, because it´s a wonderful blend of pretty "classical" fantasy and a lot of good new ideas.
The look of the book, the images, everything, is just awesome. It´s worth every single cent.
A new convert to the pathfinder setting and loading up my cart. Just curious is there a "complete"(all of continents) world map in this book or any other place?
Don't think so, the closest it has is the Inner Sea Regional map, and then more detailed maps of each of the countries.
I would expect that this kind of map would appear in the the book coming out next year to do with Golarion's cosmology.
I read that there was some typos in the first printing. By any chance do you plan to make another print with some "errata" ?
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A new convert to the pathfinder setting and loading up my cart. Just curious is there a "complete"(all of continents) world map in this book or any other place?
It includes a map of the Inner Sea region, which is the only area we've really detailed in any way so far. We're keeping details on other areas of Golarion sparse, so there will be opportunities to reveal more good stuff for years to come.
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I read that there was some typos in the first printing. By any chance do you plan to make another print with some "errata" ?
If this edition sells out, we'll probably make some fixes in the reprint (as well as an errata update for purchasers of the current printing, most likely) but that's a long way off.
I read that there was some typos in the first printing. By any chance do you plan to make another print with some "errata" ?If this edition sells out, we'll probably make some fixes in the reprint (as well as an errata update for purchasers of the current printing, most likely) but that's a long way off.
James Jacobs is keeping a very detailed list of all the corrections and changes that need to be made. If you note anything, make a post in this thread.
A new convert to the pathfinder setting and loading up my cart. Just curious is there a "complete"(all of continents) world map in this book or any other place?It includes a map of the Inner Sea region, which is the only area we've really detailed in any way so far. We're keeping details on other areas of Golarion sparse, so there will be opportunities to reveal more good stuff for years to come.
May seem like a little thing but in a world were people can fly and teleport at higher lvls and having to go back and retcon whole pieces of geography and story make me cringe. Keep seeing references to an eastern culture and lands, which at least one of players will be interested in. I hate railroading players and alot of our game time over the years has been freeform, I hate haveing to hand wave things or try and railroad them. That being said this has been a complaint with most of our favorite fantasy worlds and just wondering if Golorian were any different. But other then that I'm loving the Pathfinder stuff!
I have a few questions...
1) what are the new powers listed in the entry of each described country ? Feats ? Something else ? Let's say my PC is from Geb, do I get the Necromantic Resistance automatically or do I have to pay for it somehow ?
2) The Secret of Steel Shattering Spirit is cool (see p.85).. You gain a pool of ki points to shatter things, but how do you replenish the pool when you have used them up ? Medidation ? Sleep ? Someone knows ?
I do have another question. I am new to D&D 3.5 and I just started to play as a GM a couple of weeks ago. I have started AP1 Burnt offering and my PCs are about to enter the Catacombs
Spoiler:of Wrath. Sinspawns are a plenty down there, but I have a question regarding their attacks : how many have they ? 2 or 3 attacks each round : 2 claw attacks + 1 bite attack or 1 claw and bite attack ?
1) They are feats, not automatic.
2) Probably should be meditation following sleep, but it doesn't seem to be specified.
3) 2 and 1.
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I ordered this from my FLGS so I could support both Paizo and the brick and mortar. It was worth it! Fantastic setting well depicted but leaves me wanting more. As someone else mentioned we need additional secrets on the wild lands of Golarion. Something with some crunch. Perhaps it will be included in the bestiary?
I think this product is a great way to sell newcomers on the Pathfinder world. If I had the money I would donate a copy to my local library.
Since money to invest in pushing Golarion isn't in my budget, I did the next best thing- i requested the library to buy a copy to put into circulation. The request is pending. I will post again if they do get one. Then next year I will request the hardcover rulebook for the reference section.
"Come one come all and join the Pathfinder revolution in role-play."
Didn't you used to date Drew Barrymore?
hahahaha
Some part of me so wants this to be true.
Yah, Wolf, I agree. So far I've bought three: one for me, one for the 29-year-old GM son, and one for the beginning-to-be-interested-in-gaming 26-year-old daughter. The book is beautiful!
Has anyone else had a problem with the front and back covers bowing? I keep it on the shelf with my other hardcovers, and none of them have shown this type of wear.
It kind of looks like this from the top...
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This really is a wonderful book, well done up with loads of information to really flesh out characters and reigons. It's a Top notch purchase, but for how long...
My concern is that there are parts that conflict even with the Beta; for example the sorcerers alternate class feature which replaces the familiar they don't get anymore. There aren't many instances of this since most of the information is indipendant of actual game play, and geared more towards fleshing and detail.
Does this mean there's going to be a full reprint / rerelease of this book, or maybe a web enhancement to deal with the changes?
I know where my next $50 of spending money is going. I might have that $50 sometime this year. Man, I'm po'.
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This really is a wonderful book, well done up with loads of information to really flesh out characters and reigons. It's a Top notch purchase, but for how long...
My concern is that there are parts that conflict even with the Beta; for example the sorcerers alternate class feature which replaces the familiar they don't get anymore. There aren't many instances of this since most of the information is indipendant of actual game play, and geared more towards fleshing and detail.
Does this mean there's going to be a full reprint / rerelease of this book, or maybe a web enhancement to deal with the changes?
We won't print another run of this book until we sell out the first run, which probably won't happen before the Core Rulebook comes out in August.
Once the Pathfinder RPG rules are finished, we'll take another look at some of the rules bits in this book and see if we need to make any changes. If changes do need to be made prior to a second printing, we'll probably address that via a web supplement.
I need help figuring out the PF calendar.
The year has 52 weeks of 7 days each.
The year has 12 months and 4 seasons.
Each season is made up of 3 months.
The solstices and equinoxes are each put in at the start of a season.
So winter solstice is the day before month 12 (the first winter month); is that correct? Does this mean that each month has 30 days and that the solsctices and equinoxes are 4 days entirely appart from the months and seasons?
As I see it a year is made up of:
1-30 Abadius + Calistril
1 Vernal Equinox
1-30 Pharast + Gozran + Desnus
1 Summer solstice
1-30 Sarenith + Erastus + Arodus
1 Autumnal Equinox
1-30 Rova + Lamashan + Neth
1 Winter Solstice
1-30 Kuthona
Asuming that my previous asumtions are correct, I conclude that the Swallowtail festival (occuring on the autumn equinox) and the start of the Rise of the Rune Lords is the day between 30 Arodus and 1 Rova. Is this a correct asumtion?
A number of holidays and festivals are mentioned on p.238. Where can I find more information on them? Would you consider publishing a headline description for those days?
If changes do need to be made prior to a second printing, we'll probably address that via a web supplement.
That is a relief. The book is quite good and have it completely redone just to meet the changes of the beta would not be cool.
I am looking forward to the PFRPG web supplement though :)
Noob here, trying to get upto speed. :)
Love what I have read so far.
Is this the master book for the entire Varisia world?
Will any potential 2nd edition contain updated material, i.e., be reconciled with the new Corebook to be released in August 2009 or will it be an exact re-print of the existing book?
Larger question - is there a plan to update/correct existing products in light of the new corebook?
thanks!
This really is a wonderful book, well done up with loads of information to really flesh out characters and reigons. It's a Top notch purchase, but for how long...
My concern is that there are parts that conflict even with the Beta; for example the sorcerers alternate class feature which replaces the familiar they don't get anymore. There aren't many instances of this since most of the information is indipendant of actual game play, and geared more towards fleshing and detail.
Does this mean there's going to be a full reprint / rerelease of this book, or maybe a web enhancement to deal with the changes?
We won't print another run of this book until we sell out the first run, which probably won't happen before the Core Rulebook comes out in August.
Once the Pathfinder RPG rules are finished, we'll take another look at some of the rules bits in this book and see if we need to make any changes. If changes do need to be made prior to a second printing, we'll probably address that via a web supplement.
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Is this the master book for the entire Varisia world?
Well, it's the main book for the entire Inner Sea region, which is the only region we've really explored. One day, there may be books that cover other regions, but this, for now, is the master book you're looking for.
Will any potential 2nd edition contain updated material, i.e., be reconciled with the new Corebook to be released in August 2009 or will it be an exact re-print of the existing book?
Larger question - is there a plan to update/correct existing products in light of the new corebook?
As books sell out, the ones with sales string enough to justify reprinting will probably be updated. However, A) we don't plan on having to reprint this especially soon; B) such changes will be very minor; and C) we'll do our best to make such changes available (possibly in PDF form) to those who have previous editions.
In short, there's no need to wait for a reprint—this will not be obsolete in a year.
And welcome!
Sweet! Thank you! I ordered the book at my FLGS today. Hoorah! Support the home team!!
While ordering the store owner told me that he planned to carry the new Corebook after Gencon and openly mulled the probability that he would carry more Pathfinder products! Woot!!
Is this the master book for the entire Varisia world?Well, it's the main book for the entire Inner Sea region, which is the only region we've really explored. One day, there may be books that cover other regions, but this, for now, is the master book you're looking for.
Will any potential 2nd edition contain updated material, i.e., be reconciled with the new Corebook to be released in August 2009 or will it be an exact re-print of the existing book?
Larger question - is there a plan to update/correct existing products in light of the new corebook?
As books sell out, the ones with sales string enough to justify reprinting will probably be updated. However, A) we don't plan on having to reprint this especially soon; B) such changes will be very minor; and C) we'll do our best to make such changes available (possibly in PDF form) to those who have previous editions.
In short, there's no need to wait for a reprint—this will not be obsolete in a year.
And welcome!
This book is a solid piece of work. The Paizo people did a good job creating a coherent world book. Thanks to the team and keep up the good work.
This book is a solid piece of work. The Paizo people did a good job creating a coherent world book. Thanks to the team and keep up the good work.
Picked it up from the store today. Read a bunch, paged through a bunch. Drooling over the map. Awesomeness.
I was just reading through the Campaign Setting hardcover when I noticed something peculiar. In the Religion chapter, the book lists all the additional open gaming content domains from the SRD that are not, for example, in the D&D Player's Handbook. All of these have been assigned to the deities of the Pathfinder Chronicles pantheon, and thus have also been converted to the Pathfinder RPG. But wait! Not actually all of them. The Creation domain is listed, but it is not assigned to any of the gods, neither to any of the 20 main deities nor to one of the listed minor gods, archdevils, demon lords, empyreal lords or archdaemons. It is also missing from the Pathfinder RPG Beta.
So... is this by design, or maybe an oversight? And, will we get a Pathfinder RPG conversion of the Creation domain some day?
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I was just reading through the Campaign Setting hardcover when I noticed something peculiar. In the Religion chapter, the book lists all the additional open gaming content domains from the SRD that are not, for example, in the D&D Player's Handbook. All of these have been assigned to the deities of the Pathfinder Chronicles pantheon, and thus have also been converted to the Pathfinder RPG. But wait! Not actually all of them. The Creation domain is listed, but it is not assigned to any of the gods, neither to any of the 20 main deities nor to one of the listed minor gods, archdevils, demon lords, empyreal lords or archdaemons. It is also missing from the Pathfinder RPG Beta.
So... is this by design, or maybe an oversight? And, will we get a Pathfinder RPG conversion of the Creation domain some day?
The Creation domain snuck in there into the PFRPG. It won't be in the PFRPG, since none of the core 20 deities grant it. It (and others, like the SRD's Scalykind and Gods & Magic's Void domain) is likely to be part of a later book down the road.
The Creation domain snuck in there into the PFRPG. It won't be in the PFRPG, since none of the core 20 deities grant it. It (and others, like the SRD's Scalykind and Gods & Magic's Void domain) is likely to be part of a later book down the road.
Thanks for the information!
Okay, I've finally found a few people willing to try Pathfinder and was looking at what books would be handy... and what books to wait on... So I have a question...
Is it worth it to purchase the .pdf today? Or trudge through until the Aug release of the RPG? Is there sufficient material in this book that won't be covered in the RPG release? I understand that a large amount of "crunch" and options that we haven't seen in the Beta releases will be in the official release, but how much fluff will be there?
If there's material in this book that won't be in the RPG book (which I'm guessing is yes...) should I wait until August? I know you (paizo) will only reprint it if it sells out... but is there any plans on "errata-ing" the .pdf? If so, should I wait until then, or will .pdf purchasers be allowed to download post-changed versions?
I'm in a situation where I can afford the .pdf and the RPG subscription, but it'll be tight, and I'd like to avoid spending money twice if need be.
Is it worth it to purchase the .pdf today? Or trudge through until the Aug release of the RPG? Is there sufficient material in this book that won't be covered in the RPG release? I understand that a large amount of "crunch" and options that we haven't seen in the Beta releases will be in the official release, but how much fluff will be there?
If there's material in this book that won't be in the RPG book (which I'm guessing is yes...) should I wait until August? I know you (paizo) will only reprint it if it sells out... but is there any plans on "errata-ing" the .pdf? If so, should I wait until then, or will .pdf purchasers be allowed to download post-changed versions?
I'm in a situation where I can afford the .pdf and the RPG subscription, but it'll be tight, and I'd like to avoid spending money twice if need be.
This book is the campaign setting for Pathfinder's Golarion world...the rules for playing are not in this book, the PFRPG rules (or the 3.5 DMG/PHB) are what's needed in this crunch-lite book. So...
This book: Setting
PFRPG book: Mechanics
Getting this book is money well spent, IMHO. :)
Okay, I've finally found a few people willing to try Pathfinder and was looking at what books would be handy... and what books to wait on... So I have a question...
Is it worth it to purchase the .pdf today? Or trudge through until the Aug release of the RPG? Is there sufficient material in this book that won't be covered in the RPG release? I understand that a large amount of "crunch" and options that we haven't seen in the Beta releases will be in the official release, but how much fluff will be there?
If there's material in this book that won't be in the RPG book (which I'm guessing is yes...) should I wait until August? I know you (paizo) will only reprint it if it sells out... but is there any plans on "errata-ing" the .pdf? If so, should I wait until then, or will .pdf purchasers be allowed to download post-changed versions?
I'm in a situation where I can afford the .pdf and the RPG subscription, but it'll be tight, and I'd like to avoid spending money twice if need be.
I think you are confused a bit, it happens same name after all. The setting is 3.5 but is very crunch light. You can use it with almost any system, people use it with 4e and other systems.
It is a setting book, with details of the setting world, it is not a pathfinder RPG book, but can be used as such. It is a game setting not the rules
Edit: Ninjaed by the Demon mistress of cookies it seems.
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Okay, I've finally found a few people willing to try Pathfinder and was looking at what books would be handy... and what books to wait on... So I have a question...
Is it worth it to purchase the .pdf today? Or trudge through until the Aug release of the RPG? Is there sufficient material in this book that won't be covered in the RPG release? I understand that a large amount of "crunch" and options that we haven't seen in the Beta releases will be in the official release, but how much fluff will be there?
If there's material in this book that won't be in the RPG book (which I'm guessing is yes...) should I wait until August? I know you (paizo) will only reprint it if it sells out... but is there any plans on "errata-ing" the .pdf? If so, should I wait until then, or will .pdf purchasers be allowed to download post-changed versions?
I'm in a situation where I can afford the .pdf and the RPG subscription, but it'll be tight, and I'd like to avoid spending money twice if need be.
The Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting is a whole different animal from the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. The former is a campaign setting, while the latter is a set of rules. They don't overlap in any meaningful way, but they do complement one another nicely. You can use the Campaign Setting without the Pathfinder RPG (it's designed for 3.5, but experienced GMs won't have problems converting it for use with any rules set), and you can use the RPG with any campaign setting you like.
Okay... I think that answered my actual question which was worded rather poorly... I knew this book was (almost) entirely the fluff for the world, and system independent... I suppose what I should have asked is "How much of it would be repeated in the RPG book?" Aside from a little bit of FR most of my non generic/greyhawk roleplaying has been in free publications where if they had a specific rule system they created, then they made one "book" that had fluff and crunch all in one...
Thanks...
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Basically one table in the Core Rulebook lists the gods and their domains, and we use them as examples a couple of times in the book. In terms of wordage, I'd guess that it's less than 1% of the book. And even then it's not really "repeated" from the Campaign Setting, as it's just a list of gods and their domains for the dozen or so "core" gods (there are lots more gods in the Campaign Setting, and a HUGE amount of additional detail).
I know you (paizo) will only reprint it if it sells out... but is there any plans on "errata-ing" the .pdf? If so, should I wait until then, or will .pdf purchasers be allowed to download post-changed versions?
Paizo is very good about notifying via e-mail when a PDF you have purchased changes. You can always redownload files you've purchased from Paizo (with rare exceptions relating to 3rd party licenses.) I have received updates about non-paizo PDFs as well.
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Basically one table in the Core Rulebook lists the gods and their domains, and we use them as examples a couple of times in the book. In terms of wordage, I'd guess that it's less than 1% of the book.
More like less than .1%!
Adding to the last poster, though, we don't really have any plans to update the Campaign Setting anytime soon, as there's really not that much that needs to change. However, when it does go back to press—which at the current rate is projected to be sometime in 2011—we will update those few things, and we'll make those changes freely available.
I need help figuring out the Golarion calendar.
The year has 52 weeks of 7 days each.
The year has 12 months and 4 seasons.
Each season is made up of 3 months.
The solstices and equinoxes are each put in at the start of a season.
So winter solstice is the day before month 12 (the first winter month); is that correct? Does this mean that each month has 30 days and that the solsctices and equinoxes are 4 days entirely appart from the months and seasons?
As I see it a year is made up of:
1-30 Abadius + Calistril
1 Vernal Equinox
1-30 Pharast + Gozran + Desnus
1 Summer solstice
1-30 Sarenith + Erastus + Arodus
1 Autumnal Equinox
1-30 Rova + Lamashan + Neth
1 Winter Solstice
1-30 Kuthona
Asuming that my previous asumtions are correct, I conclude that the Swallowtail festival (occuring on the autumn equinox) and the start of the Rise of the Rune Lords is the day between 30 Arodus and 1 Rova. Is this a correct asumtion?
A number of holidays and festivals are mentioned on p.238. Where can I find more information on them? Would you consider publishing a headline description for those days?
From what I've read, the PF Campaign setting is compatible with the new PF RPG.
Are there any plans to reprint a newer edition?
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From what I've read, the PF Campaign setting is compatible with the new PF RPG.
Are there any plans to reprint a newer edition?
The book is relatively light on mechanics, but the few stats present are for 3.5. We'll update them if we reprint, but we expect our stock of the current edition to last at least another year or so.
The book is relatively light on mechanics, but the few stats present are for 3.5. We'll update them if we reprint, but we expect our stock of the current edition to last at least another year or so.From what I've read, the PF Campaign setting is compatible with the new PF RPG.
Are there any plans to reprint a newer edition?
How about a quickie PDF update? I want an official PF Holy Warrior cleric variant...
Also, I really like the map that has the PF adventure locations on it. Any thoughts on keeping something like that updated somewhere?
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I just can't seem to stop reading this book. So many ideas spring to mind for adventures/campaigns at even just a casual read. And I'm loving the Beyond the Inner Sea chapter. Hopefully Casmaron, Tian Xia and the other continents can be detailed in similar books in the years to come (would definately like to see Casmaron done next... Campaign Setting II perhaps?).
And I'll add my vote for an up to date version of the adventure location map, might work well as a page for the website here, so that people can easily see which books are best to get to complement their own ideas in the various regions of Avistan and Garund.
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I also would LOVE to see other areas done.
Except at Gencon at the Q & A session for the adventure paths I think they were saying that they didn't want to do it because they would limit themselves or something along those lines.
Sean
Can't remember which thread he said it in now, but James Jacobs stated that they do plan on doing an Adventure Path which would take players to Tian Xia at some point in the future, which I'd imagine would involve a trek over the Crown of the World battling ice creatures... which would be awesome.
Hopefully they won't do a 3E FR and give some details on other continents and then never follow up on them.
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Can't remember which thread he said it in now, but James Jacobs stated that they do plan on doing an Adventure Path which would take players to Tian Xia at some point in the future, which I'd imagine would involve a trek over the Crown of the World battling ice creatures... which would be awesome.
Hopefully they won't do a 3E FR and give some details on other continents and then never follow up on them.
The AP you're thinking of is called "Jade Regent" and is still planned for sometime in the future. It was going to be the one following Kingmaker, but would require more support material, like new classes and a large setting book for Tian Xia that it was pushed back to allow them the time to get the ducks all in a row before committing to it.
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I also would LOVE to see other areas done.
Except at Gencon at the Q & A session for the adventure paths I think they were saying that they didn't want to do it because they would limit themselves or something along those lines.
Sean
Can't remember which thread he said it in now, but James Jacobs stated that they do plan on doing an Adventure Path which would take players to Tian Xia at some point in the future, which I'd imagine would involve a trek over the Crown of the World battling ice creatures... which would be awesome.
Hopefully they won't do a 3E FR and give some details on other continents and then never follow up on them.
I forgot about that as well they also brought it up during the Q & A. So yes your right. I think this is where they started talking about multiple campaign settings books.
More than likely I am wrong and misunderstood that they didn't want to do more campaign settings. After all I had been up nearly 30 hours to that point with the flight from Anchorage and the first day of events.
Sean