Dragon Issue #337

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Demonomicon of Iggwilv: Zuggtmoy
by James Jacobs
Released from the dungeons of the Temple of Elemental Evil, Zuggtmoy dreams of spreading her fungoid presence across the planes. Learn the terrible secrets of the demon lady of slimes and fungi.

Lords of Dust
by Keith Baker
Scheming through the centuries, these rakshasas and even greater fiends seek to free their masters bound deep below the surface of Eberron. Get drawn into their world-spanning web of lies and plots.

Monsters of the Mind
by Kevin Baase, Eric Jansing, and Oliver Frank
Five horrible monsters that prey on your thoughts. Revisit old classics like the ustilagor and explore new horrors like the brainstealer dragon.

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The Ecology of the Shadar-Kai, Class Acts, Bazaar of the Bizarre, First Watch, Scale Mail, Sage Advice, Wormfood, and comics.

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Why does everything female now a days have to look like this pic of Zuggtmoy? Can the artists of modern Fantasy RPGs only think about Breasts and Spikes? That isn't Zuggtmoy. She looks like this;
http://www.gamebanshee.com/templeofelementalevil/monsters/zuggtmoy.php


I better not show you my special file sexxxyjuiblex.jpg, then.

Sovereign Court

Now adays? This cover is 5 years old?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I myself am a fan of breasts (my wife's in particular, however I enjoy most of those I see on women.)


When I got this issue, I remember thinking, "Who/what is that?"; and I immediately looked for the Zuggtmoy article only to find she was the cover.
Nothing previously published even hinted that "mushroom girl" wasn't her true form.

It seems her appearance was changed for the sake of change with no real reasoning behind it. IMO, that happened way too often in the offices of the IP holder.

It's one of the reasons I've moved on to other games by other companies.

Silver Crusade

Meh. I like Pretty Zuggtmoy.

More than Malcanthet and Nocticula to be honest.

(not a mycophile)

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Mikaze wrote:

Meh. I like Pretty Zuggtmoy.

More than Malcanthet and Nocticula to be honest.

(not a mycophile)

There's a nasty joke about yeast infections in here somewhere, but I'm not making it.

Scarab Sages

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.

DUDE! You made me spit Almond Joy and Coke at my monitor!

hehehe

Paizo Employee Creative Director

George.Fields wrote:

When I got this issue, I remember thinking, "Who/what is that?"; and I immediately looked for the Zuggtmoy article only to find she was the cover.

Nothing previously published even hinted that "mushroom girl" wasn't her true form.

It seems her appearance was changed for the sake of change with no real reasoning behind it. IMO, that happened way too often in the offices of the IP holder.

It's one of the reasons I've moved on to other games by other companies.

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.


James Jacobs wrote:

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
George.Fields wrote:

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

This

James Jacobs wrote:
Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.

But Change Magazines to Video Games

Paizo Employee Creative Director

George.Fields wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

Possibly because they felt that the "Fat ET" version of Zuggtmoy was underwhelming and not that scary and kind of silly looking. That's why I would have changed it, in any case.

Sometimes new is better than old.

ALSO

Part of what makes art ART is that not everyone will like any one particular piece of art.


James Jacobs wrote:

Possibly because they felt that the "Fat ET" version of Zuggtmoy was underwhelming and not that scary and kind of silly looking. That's why I would have changed it, in any case.

Sometimes new is better than old.

ALSO

Part of what makes art ART is that not everyone will like any one particular piece of art.

I love the art itself - it's spectacular.

This is where the video game age fails in my opinion. Everything has to look cool or awesome to be considered good.
Zuggtmoy wasn't scary looking. She looked a bit silly because that's what she looks like. A few evil facial expressions would have done wonders without actually changing her appearance.

In Child's Play, Chucky didn't look scary at all until he got ticked off and started making facial expressions.

Not trying to troll here - just enjoying a good debate about one of my favorite adventures. :)

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