paizo.com Favorited Posts by The Killer Nachopaizo.com Favorited Posts by The Killer Nacho2022-05-26T20:46:07Z2022-05-26T20:46:07ZForums: Rules Questions: Do you count as your own ally (in general)?The Killer Nachohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l58r?Do-you-count-as-your-own-ally#12018-12-12T22:18:14Z2010-08-10T21:06:29Z<p>This came up in a separate thread, and I thought maybe it would be appropriate to give it its own thread. Maybe there is an official ruling that I'm unaware of.</p>
<p>It's funny, since I always thought that you were your own ally. I just checked... it is quite an annoying fact, but the term "ally" is not defined anywhere in the book. I checked the appendix and index.</p>
<p>The only reason I can see for the basis of the ruling that you are your own ally is the descriptions of some of the Bardic performances. For example, Inspire Courage states "... in his allies (including himself)". The parenthesis seem to suggest that allies includes oneself. Also, in Inspire Competence, the ability has to specifically state that the Bard himself cannot be effected, "A bard can't inspire competence in himself."</p>
<p>While most abilities clarify whether or not you count as your "own ally", some do not (like Gang Up from the APG). I think its time that the term is defined.</p>This came up in a separate thread, and I thought maybe it would be appropriate to give it its own thread. Maybe there is an official ruling that I'm unaware of.
It's funny, since I always thought that you were your own ally. I just checked... it is quite an annoying fact, but the term "ally" is not defined anywhere in the book. I checked the appendix and index.
The only reason I can see for the basis of the ruling that you are your own ally is the descriptions of some of the Bardic...The Killer Nacho2010-08-10T21:06:29ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Advanced Player's Guide silliness: Bonuses for being a prostituteThe Killer Nachohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l4de&page=2?Advanced-Players-Guide-silliness-Bonuses-for#712016-01-14T12:52:34Z2010-08-05T11:33:28Z<p>I don't see what the issue is. MiB, if prostitutes getting bonuses really offends you, don't play with the trait. It's as simple as that. However, I don't think you have much of an argument that the trait somehow doesn't make sense (a trained prostitute WOULD excel at those things). If it infringes on your delicate sensibilities, don't play with the trait. As a DM, you can ban it. As a player, you can choose not to take and and ask others at your table to not take it either (honestly, I don't think most other players would want to take it except for fluff, there are better options).</p>
<p>However, like many, MANY people said on this thread... prostitution was a part of medieval (and therefore, fantasy) culture. To exclude it from a place where it should probably exist just because OUR culture doesn't approve is silly. Even if you exclude the assassin class (since it is evil), the Pathfinder RPG still includes murder, thievery, racism, and slavery. Things that are considered horrible by our society, but even good characters can participate in (The vigilante CG character, a Robin Hood type of thief, Killing goblins because they have green skin and you don't, a good king having slaves and servants). Further, you claim there is no trait that is an "assassin" trait. Please look again. There IS a trait that is just that... a trait designed to give you a bonus for being a good murderer:</p>
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Benefit: You deal additional damage equal to your weapon’s critical hit modifier when you score a successful critical hit with a weapon; this additional damage is added to the final total, and is not multiplied by the critical hit multiple itself. This extra damage is a trait bonus.</p>
<p>In conclusion, there is no reason why this trait shouldn't exist. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to play with it. I, for one, and glad that it was included and if any of my players want to use it, I will be more than glad to let them take it.</p>I don't see what the issue is. MiB, if prostitutes getting bonuses really offends you, don't play with the trait. It's as simple as that. However, I don't think you have much of an argument that the trait somehow doesn't make sense (a trained prostitute WOULD excel at those things). If it infringes on your delicate sensibilities, don't play with the trait. As a DM, you can ban it. As a player, you can choose not to take and and ask others at your table to not take it either (honestly, I don't...The Killer Nacho2010-08-05T11:33:28Z