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So the Somatic component can be a bit vague when talking about what type of gestures and hand freedom one would need. I for instance have a level 2 cleric in my campaign, follower of Gorum. He uses his Diety's weapon, a greatsword, which is two handed. So he naturally took emblazon armament cleric 2 feat, which makes his greatsword his holy symbol. Now here is the kicker, he wants to cast magic weapon and do a strike action in 1 turn. My groups argument is that magic weapon has a somatic component, so he would need to release his weapon with one hand to make the gesture, then interact action to grab his greatsword with that hand, ending his turn. Here is the RAW on somatic components:

"Somatic
A somatic component is a specific hand movement or
gesture that generates a magical nexus. The spell gains the manipulate trait and requires you to make gestures. You can use this component while holding something in your hand, but not if you are restrained or otherwise unable to gesture freely.
Spells that require you to touch the target require a somatic component. You can do so while holding something as long as part of your hand is able to touch the target (even if it’s through a glove or gauntlet)."

My group and I think that grasping a greatsword with 2 hands would count as "otherwise unable to gesture freely.".

However, the post I found on Reddit is a split 50/50 argument, the other side stating one could flourish their weapon to do the gesture.

I understand doing a gesture while holding a holy symbol, or a dagger, or something light, but a 2 handed weapon I believe would require taking a hand off.

Please comment below your thoughts, or any link to a developer making a ruling on this. Thank you for your time!


Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I am having the same problem with the Dragons Demand key I purchased...


Didn't see anything in the comments about it, but will this AP include any flip maps? Or will there be a flip map pack available for purchase relatively soon after launch?

I REALLY love the custom flip maps and all the maps Paizo come out with, and would love to have all of them ready to bust out, rather than having to crudely draw them on a dry erase board.