paizo.com Recent Posts by Secanepaizo.com Recent Posts by Secane2023-07-11T07:25:36Z2023-07-11T07:25:36ZForums: Rules Questions: Cyclonic weapon vs Winds of VengeanceSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43otm?Cyclonic-weapon-vs-Winds-of-Vengeance#12022-09-28T15:56:45Z2022-09-28T15:56:45Z<p>A Cyclonic weapon can pierce through spells like Wind Wall or Flickle Winds, but can it get through the protections of the Level 9 spell Winds of Vengeance?</p>
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<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>A Cyclonic weapon can pierce through spells like Wind Wall or Flickle Winds, but can it get through the protections of the Level 9 spell Winds of Vengeance?
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[Spoiler omitted]Secane2022-09-28T15:56:45ZRe: Forums: Advice: Ways to gain Grab without shape changing or Tetori Monk?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43oao?Ways-to-gain-Grab-without-shape-changing-or#42022-08-28T11:22:52Z2022-08-28T11:22:52Z<p>@zza ni</p>
<p>Thank you! The list is a great help. I'm combing through it.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention the game I'm in is using PFS rules. So unfortunately a good number of great options like strong jaw are out of the running. Still, it is very much appreciated.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">zza ni wrote:</div><blockquote><p> side notice.
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while it was a hard nerf for players. i do love me some final embrace horror on animal companion or familiars (i know of two ways to grant a familiar with feats that the master can't take) if only for the fact there is no save against the fear effects and that unlike stuff like demoralized it stack with itself to get shaken into frightened and that into panicked if used with the right build.
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panicked creatures can't attack and a grapple is an attack. so grappled panicked creatures usually are left with only escape artist to get out. and few have that high enough to beat a big animal companion's cmd (not to mention as a skill check nat 20 isn't auto success). hit them 3 times in a round and they're are as good as dead.. </blockquote><p>Oh! Do share. I would love to make a character with an animal companion using the final embrace chain!@zza ni
Thank you! The list is a great help. I'm combing through it.
I forgot to mention the game I'm in is using PFS rules. So unfortunately a good number of great options like strong jaw are out of the running. Still, it is very much appreciated.
zza ni wrote:side notice.
while it was a hard nerf for players. i do love me some final embrace horror on animal companion or familiars (i know of two ways to grant a familiar with feats that the master can't take) if only for the fact there is...Secane2022-08-28T11:22:52ZForums: Advice: Ways to gain Grab without shape changing or Tetori Monk?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43oao?Ways-to-gain-Grab-without-shape-changing-or#12022-08-28T09:33:07Z2022-08-28T09:33:07Z<p>I'm trying to recreate a grappler build that has Grab from years back. The previous method to gain Grab via final embrace has been errata way back and I'm not sure how to recreate it.</p>
<p>With all the new material since, I was wondering if there are any new options that I have overlooked in my research. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.</p>I'm trying to recreate a grappler build that has Grab from years back. The previous method to gain Grab via final embrace has been errata way back and I'm not sure how to recreate it.
With all the new material since, I was wondering if there are any new options that I have overlooked in my research. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.Secane2022-08-28T09:33:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: How to Upgrade Your Gear in PFS.Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4s8&page=15?How-to-Upgrade-Your-Gear-in-PFS#7392022-08-23T02:03:26Z2022-08-22T01:17:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">FLite wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Secane wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Sorry if this has been ask and answered before, but can you add armor spikes to Unique Armor (named magic armor)? </p>
<p>Like add armor spikes to a Mithral Full Plate of Speed? </blockquote>I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. </blockquote><p>Its to my understanding that armor spikes are a seperate weapon. That when added to armor, makes the armor into spiked armor. As it's it own weapon, it can be applied to any armor.
<p>But since unique armors cannot be modified with additional changes, like material, additional enchantments or special abilities. For example you can't make a +3 Mithral Full Plate of Speed, it can only be a +1, nor can you make an adamantine version of it. </p>
<p>It's been argued that armor spikes, which changes an armor into a spiked armor version, is considered a modification as well. Despite being its own weapon.</p>
<p>Hence I'm asking if there is any clarification on this. Or am I just reading too much into the no additional enchantments on unique armors/items rule.</p>FLite wrote:Secane wrote:Sorry if this has been ask and answered before, but can you add armor spikes to Unique Armor (named magic armor)?
Like add armor spikes to a Mithral Full Plate of Speed?
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. Its to my understanding that armor spikes are a seperate weapon. That when added to armor, makes the armor into spiked armor. As it's it own weapon, it can be applied to any armor. But since unique armors cannot be modified with additional changes, like...Secane2022-08-22T01:17:14ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: How does Throwing interact with Furious special weapon ability?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43o4t?How-does-Throwing-interact-with-Furious#52022-08-21T18:58:06Z2022-08-21T18:58:06Z<p>Thanks everyone. That's what I believe as well. Thanks for clarifying.</p>Thanks everyone. That's what I believe as well. Thanks for clarifying.Secane2022-08-21T18:58:06ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: How to Upgrade Your Gear in PFS.Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4s8&page=15?How-to-Upgrade-Your-Gear-in-PFS#7372022-08-21T18:55:31Z2022-08-21T18:55:31Z<p>Sorry if this has been ask and answered before, but can you add armor spikes to Unique Armor (named magic armor)? </p>
<p>Like add armor spikes to a Mithral Full Plate of Speed?</p>Sorry if this has been ask and answered before, but can you add armor spikes to Unique Armor (named magic armor)?
Like add armor spikes to a Mithral Full Plate of Speed?Secane2022-08-21T18:55:31ZForums: Rules Questions: How does Throwing interact with Furious special weapon ability?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43o4t?How-does-Throwing-interact-with-Furious#12022-08-19T09:33:03Z2022-08-19T09:27:28Z<p>What happens when a magical melee weapon with the Throwing special weapon ability gets enchanted with the Furious special weapon ability?</p>
<p>Does Furious (which can only be applied to melee weapons) still work when the weapon is thrown?</p>
<p>Also is a melee weapon with Throwing considered a melee weapon or a range weapon for the purpose of feats etc, when it is thrown?
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For example, does works with power attacks? Or deadly aim?</p>What happens when a magical melee weapon with the Throwing special weapon ability gets enchanted with the Furious special weapon ability?
Does Furious (which can only be applied to melee weapons) still work when the weapon is thrown?
Also is a melee weapon with Throwing considered a melee weapon or a range weapon for the purpose of feats etc, when it is thrown?
For example, does works with power attacks? Or deadly aim?Secane2022-08-19T09:27:28ZForums: Advice: How to play the Witchwarper?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42x6e?How-to-play-the-Witchwarper#12020-01-28T19:15:15Z2020-01-28T19:14:35Z<p>I have mainly played a mystic (star shaman) for most of my starfinder games.</p>
<p>Now that the COM is out, I'm thinking of playing a caster for my 2nd character and make a Witchwarper.</p>
<p>However the more I read into what a Witchwarper can do... the more confused I get. It just feels like whatever a Witchwarper can do, a mystic or technomancer can do it better. </p>
<p>From what I can understand the Withcwarper is a mix of AOE dmg and battlefield control via changing the environment.
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But the AOE aspect seems be equal or weaker then the technomancer and the battlefield control is of limited uses, given that more of the effects can be avoided, or over come with the right gear. There also seems to be a spammerable AOE attack (Hazard) ... but the damage output is weaker then then a gun and don't scale at all. </p>
<p>When making my mystic, what you get is clearly layout. Each connection brings a different character to the table. It is also easy to understand the technomancer. Depending on what you are building for, some options are better then others.</p>
<p>But this doesn't seem to be the case with the witchwarper. All the options sees lackluster or don't help to improve what seemed the focus of the class.
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No one even seems to dare make a guide for it.
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I'm stumped. </p>
<p>So how is the Witchwarper supposed to be played?</p>I have mainly played a mystic (star shaman) for most of my starfinder games.
Now that the COM is out, I'm thinking of playing a caster for my 2nd character and make a Witchwarper.
However the more I read into what a Witchwarper can do... the more confused I get. It just feels like whatever a Witchwarper can do, a mystic or technomancer can do it better.
From what I can understand the Withcwarper is a mix of AOE dmg and battlefield control via changing the environment.
But the AOE aspect...Secane2020-01-28T19:14:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: Is Mage Armor worth it?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42wh9?Is-Mage-Armor-worth-it#32020-01-10T12:32:32Z2020-01-10T12:32:32Z<p>@TheGentlemanDM,</p>
<p>Sorry I'm really new to this, so please help me understand how dedication spell casting works. </p>
<p>I know you can heighten one dedication spell per feat. Does this heighten not equal your character level? Or it's based off which spell caster dedication feat you currently have and that progression? Lv 4 = lv1 spell, lv 6 = lv 2 spell etc.. </p>
<p>I'm having trouble finding the rules on heightened dedication spells...</p>@TheGentlemanDM,
Sorry I'm really new to this, so please help me understand how dedication spell casting works.
I know you can heighten one dedication spell per feat. Does this heighten not equal your character level? Or it's based off which spell caster dedication feat you currently have and that progression? Lv 4 = lv1 spell, lv 6 = lv 2 spell etc..
I'm having trouble finding the rules on heightened dedication spells...Secane2020-01-10T12:32:32ZForums: Advice: Is Mage Armor worth it?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42wh9?Is-Mage-Armor-worth-it#12020-01-10T08:53:29Z2020-01-10T08:53:29Z<p>I'm thinking of grabbing mage armor as a dedication spell. Heightening it as I level up.</p>
<p>One of my fellow players feels that mage armor is kinda pointless in PF2. Feeling that even a caster can grab a simple +1 magic armor and get just as much AC, without wasting a precious spell known and slot.</p>
<p>I'm feeling that while it is weak at lower levels, it does gain more benefits as you level up. It's also last 24 hrs, which is great for a dedication spell, given 1 slot you get for each level.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any experience with mage armor? Is it worth getting as a spell known? Or are there better level 1 spells out there? (for a bard dedication)</p>I'm thinking of grabbing mage armor as a dedication spell. Heightening it as I level up.
One of my fellow players feels that mage armor is kinda pointless in PF2. Feeling that even a caster can grab a simple +1 magic armor and get just as much AC, without wasting a precious spell known and slot.
I'm feeling that while it is weak at lower levels, it does gain more benefits as you level up. It's also last 24 hrs, which is great for a dedication spell, given 1 slot you get for each level.
...Secane2020-01-10T08:53:29ZRe: Forums: Advice: Best Class for an archer? Fighter or Ranger?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42wd0?Best-Class-for-an-archer-Fighter-or-Ranger#132020-01-07T12:57:19Z2020-01-07T12:57:19Z<p>I'm wondering if it's possible to go ranger dedication into fighter and grab ALL the range feats.</p>
<p>Using ranger as a base due to flurry. </p>
<p>•going to hammer this out and let everyone know how it goes.</p>I'm wondering if it's possible to go ranger dedication into fighter and grab ALL the range feats.
Using ranger as a base due to flurry.
*going to hammer this out and let everyone know how it goes.Secane2020-01-07T12:57:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: Best Class for an archer? Fighter or Ranger?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42wd0?Best-Class-for-an-archer-Fighter-or-Ranger#82020-01-07T06:16:08Z2020-01-07T06:16:08Z<p>Thanks for the input everyone!</p>
<p>Does anyone have any insight on the Ranger's flurry reduction to multi attack penalty? Namely that the multi attack penalty does not get worse pass the 3rd attack. Is this of any use at all? Or is it a case of looks good on paper, but not useful in practice?</p>Thanks for the input everyone!
Does anyone have any insight on the Ranger's flurry reduction to multi attack penalty? Namely that the multi attack penalty does not get worse pass the 3rd attack. Is this of any use at all? Or is it a case of looks good on paper, but not useful in practice?Secane2020-01-07T06:16:08ZForums: Advice: Best Class for an archer? Fighter or Ranger?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42wd0?Best-Class-for-an-archer-Fighter-or-Ranger#12020-01-06T21:11:27Z2020-01-06T21:11:27Z<p>I'm thinking of remaking one of my first PFS characters in PF2. A dwarf fighter archer.</p>
<p>While the ability scores are now very easy to achieve (it was PAINFUL making a Dwarf Archer in PF1), I am not sure which class would suit an archer better in PF2.</p>
<p>The fighter archer in PF1 is very easy to build, you get a ton of feats that all make your archery ever more deadly and just build straight up.</p>
<p>Now that many of these former archery feats are "class feats", it kinda forces you to pick 1 class over the other and rely on dedications if you want to dip into another class for more feats. </p>
<p>So which class is better suited as the base for an archer build in PF2? Fighter or Ranger?</p>I'm thinking of remaking one of my first PFS characters in PF2. A dwarf fighter archer.
While the ability scores are now very easy to achieve (it was PAINFUL making a Dwarf Archer in PF1), I am not sure which class would suit an archer better in PF2.
The fighter archer in PF1 is very easy to build, you get a ton of feats that all make your archery ever more deadly and just build straight up.
Now that many of these former archery feats are "class feats", it kinda forces you to pick 1 class...Secane2020-01-06T21:11:27ZRe: Forums: Advice: Elemental Sorcerer - which element?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42w6y?Elemental-Sorcerer-which-element#62020-01-02T10:54:42Z2020-01-01T15:08:14Z<p>@Samurai,
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Thanks for this list of alternative spells. It looks really nice.
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I'm not sure if my gm will go for it, but I will show it anyway.
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Thanks!</p>@Samurai,
Thanks for this list of alternative spells. It looks really nice.
I'm not sure if my gm will go for it, but I will show it anyway.
Thanks!Secane2020-01-01T15:08:14ZForums: Rules Discussion: Does the Crafting skill apply to all forms of crafting?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42w75?Does-the-Crafting-skill-apply-to-all-forms-of#12020-01-01T15:05:45Z2020-01-01T15:05:45Z<p>I'm trying to under how the craft skill works in PF2.
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Can a character with craft, apply it to any form of crafting?
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Like if a character wants to work with stone/wood/metal/books, he or she just need to roll craft? </p>
<p>•The speciality crafting fest only seems to help give a bonus when crafting specific type of items. </p>
<p>In PF1, each craft skill is individual, sort of like how lore has subcategories in PF2. Is this no longer the case in PF2?</p>I'm trying to under how the craft skill works in PF2.
Can a character with craft, apply it to any form of crafting?
Like if a character wants to work with stone/wood/metal/books, he or she just need to roll craft?
*The speciality crafting fest only seems to help give a bonus when crafting specific type of items.
In PF1, each craft skill is individual, sort of like how lore has subcategories in PF2. Is this no longer the case in PF2?Secane2020-01-01T15:05:45ZRe: Forums: Advice: Elemental Sorcerer - which element?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42w6y?Elemental-Sorcerer-which-element#32020-01-01T04:14:08Z2020-01-01T04:14:08Z<p>@Castilliano,</p>
<p>Thanks. I was thinking water might be good too. Especially given that water is harder to come by then fire damage. Also useful for putting out fires.</p>
<p>I did read the player's guide, but it was light on which classes are good. The whole section on classes was just 1 to 2 paragraphs. (irc)</p>@Castilliano,
Thanks. I was thinking water might be good too. Especially given that water is harder to come by then fire damage. Also useful for putting out fires.
I did read the player's guide, but it was light on which classes are good. The whole section on classes was just 1 to 2 paragraphs. (irc)Secane2020-01-01T04:14:08ZForums: Advice: Elemental Sorcerer - which element?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42w6y?Elemental-Sorcerer-which-element#12020-01-01T03:24:55Z2020-01-01T03:10:25Z<p>Happy new year! </p>
<p>I'm making an elf elemental bloodline Sorcerer and I need advice on which elemental type to pick.
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I'm playing in a Age of Ashes AP. </p>
<p>•My gm has clarified that the produce flame spell/burning hands etc can actually generate/gather the given element. Meaning I can produce water, earth, fire or air. </p>
<p>All 4 elements have their pros and cons and I'm really torn on which element I should be going for... </p>
<p>Any advice?</p>Happy new year!
I'm making an elf elemental bloodline Sorcerer and I need advice on which elemental type to pick.
I'm playing in a Age of Ashes AP.
*My gm has clarified that the produce flame spell/burning hands etc can actually generate/gather the given element. Meaning I can produce water, earth, fire or air.
All 4 elements have their pros and cons and I'm really torn on which element I should be going for...
Any advice?Secane2020-01-01T03:10:25ZRe: Forums: Advice: Advise needed on high lv 15 Evangelist Cleric + Evangelist (PrC)Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42pbv?Advise-needed-on-high-lv-15-Evangelist-Cleric#82019-08-13T13:58:04Z2019-08-13T13:44:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MrCharisma wrote:</div><blockquote><p> What levels are you planning on playing with this character?</p>
<p>At level 15 an Evangelist Cleric gets access to 8th level spells, Inspire Heroics and swift action Bardic Performance, so if this is where you're finishing your character it's probably not the power-gaming option.</p>
<p>If you're playing to level 20 then you're not really losing much, just pushing things back a bit.</p>
<p>Also it depends on the boons a bit. Milani's 2nd boon is basically +1 to Inspire Courage for ine (long) combat per day. The 3rd boon will help in certain circumstances. </blockquote><p>I understand that we will be playing till lv 19.
<p>The 2nd boon is what my party needs, more saves. I can get it now. Or at lv 16 if I'm a pure cleric.</p>
<p>@zza and avr,
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Thanks for pointing out prestigious spell caster. Too bad it's not PFS legal. </p>
<p>Anyone with advice on high level cleric spells?</p>MrCharisma wrote:What levels are you planning on playing with this character?
At level 15 an Evangelist Cleric gets access to 8th level spells, Inspire Heroics and swift action Bardic Performance, so if this is where you're finishing your character it's probably not the power-gaming option.
If you're playing to level 20 then you're not really losing much, just pushing things back a bit.
Also it depends on the boons a bit. Milani's 2nd boon is basically +1 to Inspire Courage for ine (long)...Secane2019-08-13T13:44:46ZRe: Forums: Advice: Advise needed on high lv 15 Evangelist Cleric + Evangelist (PrC)Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42pbv?Advise-needed-on-high-lv-15-Evangelist-Cleric#32019-08-13T08:16:43Z2019-08-13T08:16:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">zza ni wrote:</div><blockquote> is the feat that let you add caster level to prestige class not PFS legal? </blockquote><p>Woa! What the name of the feat?
<p>I only know of the trait that ups your caster level by up to 2.
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But that trait don't up your spells slots :(</p>zza ni wrote:is the feat that let you add caster level to prestige class not PFS legal?
Woa! What the name of the feat? I only know of the trait that ups your caster level by up to 2.
But that trait don't up your spells slots :(Secane2019-08-13T08:16:43ZForums: Advice: Advise needed on high lv 15 Evangelist Cleric + Evangelist (PrC)Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42pbv?Advise-needed-on-high-lv-15-Evangelist-Cleric#12019-08-13T05:58:15Z2019-08-13T05:58:15Z<p>I'm finalizing the rebuild of my lv 15 (PFS) Character into a Evangelist Cleric. (Got the rebuild thanks to him having 14 levels of Lore Warden)
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I'm planning to take up the Evangelist Prestige class, but I'm torn over if it's worth the 1 caster level deduction over being a pure cleric? </p>
<p>The main feature of the evangelist class is early access to a deity's Deific obedience boons. At lv 15,thats only 1 level away from the 2nd boon. </p>
<p>Had anyone played a high level cleric before? Is the Evangelist PrC worth it for high level play? Or is more spells better? </p>
<p>Character is a Dwarf Cleric of Milani. Focusing on casting and buffing</p>I'm finalizing the rebuild of my lv 15 (PFS) Character into a Evangelist Cleric. (Got the rebuild thanks to him having 14 levels of Lore Warden)
I'm planning to take up the Evangelist Prestige class, but I'm torn over if it's worth the 1 caster level deduction over being a pure cleric?
The main feature of the evangelist class is early access to a deity's Deific obedience boons. At lv 15,thats only 1 level away from the 2nd boon.
Had anyone played a high level cleric before? Is the...Secane2019-08-13T05:58:15ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Pathfinder Society Factions Preview: Grand Archive and Vigilant SealSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgr6&page=2?Pathfinder-Society-Factions-Preview-Grand#512019-07-07T23:56:48Z2019-06-30T17:28:34Z<p>OMG, the Vigilant Seal is pathfinder's SCP Foundation!</p>
<p>Vigilant Seal - “protect, contain, and destroy.”</p>
<p>SCP - "Secure, Contain, Protect"</p>OMG, the Vigilant Seal is pathfinder's SCP Foundation!
Vigilant Seal - “protect, contain, and destroy.”
SCP - "Secure, Contain, Protect"Secane2019-06-30T17:28:34ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Need advice with Grappler build for PathfinderSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs428vh?Need-advice-with-Grappler-build-for-Pathfinder#32018-09-03T17:28:08Z2018-09-03T17:27:31Z<p>Not sure if this link would be of use to your situation, but its written by one of the best grapple builders in this forum.</p>
<p><a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6mh?Pouncing-Grappler" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pouncing Grappler (Monk 1 / Shifter 4 / Barbarian X)</a></p>Not sure if this link would be of use to your situation, but its written by one of the best grapple builders in this forum.
Pouncing Grappler (Monk 1 / Shifter 4 / Barbarian X)Secane2018-09-03T17:27:31ZRe: Forums: Playing the Game: PF2 Combat Maneuvers DiscussionSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v9we?PF2-Combat-Maneuvers-Discussion#42018-09-03T17:25:56Z2018-09-03T17:25:56Z<p>Hi Bruno! Thanks for working on this guide.</p>
<p>Can I ask why is Grapple working on creatures up to 2 sizes larger than you considered a downgrade?
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Should it be a plus if you can use grapple on more targets?</p>Hi Bruno! Thanks for working on this guide.
Can I ask why is Grapple working on creatures up to 2 sizes larger than you considered a downgrade?
Should it be a plus if you can use grapple on more targets?Secane2018-09-03T17:25:56ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Ask *James Jacobs* ALL your Questions Here!Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=1455?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#727092018-08-14T19:20:05Z2018-08-14T19:20:05Z<p>There are many parts of Golarion not yet detailed, like the continents of Casmaron, Vudra, Arcadia and Sarusan. And lower half of Garund.</p>
<p>Will these places be detailed in Pathfinder 2?</p>
<p>•Edit: And would already published places like Tian Xia be updated?
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(Sorry for the extra question)</p>There are many parts of Golarion not yet detailed, like the continents of Casmaron, Vudra, Arcadia and Sarusan. And lower half of Garund.
Will these places be detailed in Pathfinder 2?
*Edit: And would already published places like Tian Xia be updated?
(Sorry for the extra question)Secane2018-08-14T19:20:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest General Discussion: The Main Problem of PF2Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2va3m&page=4?The-Main-Problem-of-PF2#1562018-08-06T09:07:02Z2018-08-06T08:15:44Z<p>@Skystarlit1,</p>
<p>Oh mind, you said it Skystarlit1. Those are the points that have us all unhappy.
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•I don't agree with every point and I do feel there should be more to the list, but its pretty much spot on.</p>
<p>On point 2. I'm playing in 5ed right now. The limit on the difference between someone trained in a skill and someone who is not, feels very unrealistic.
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It breaks the suspension of disbelief, when a weak in strength character can move something that a clearly stronger character can't. </p>
<p>On point 6. I want to compare Skyrim and Dragon Age. Both are great RPGs, but you know why people still play Skyrim years later? (Other then mods)
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Cos Skyrim don't force a backstory into the gameplay. You are whoever YOU want to be. You write your story!
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•Both are CRPGs</p>
<p>It makes the story and your character come alive! Cos whatever you do, you earn it in someway. It becomes a living game, not just a number cruncher.</p>
<p>Should a game give some reward for a character's backstory? Yes
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Should a game be heavy handed in enforcing backstory as part of a character and tied it to game mechanics? No! It pigeonhole a character into a certain role and don't allow a character to grow out of it (not organically atleast)</p>
<p><b>Once something is a game mechanic, people will compare them</b>. Guides and players would start picking 1 over another for their game benefits.
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•Look at Reactionary (+2 trait bonus on initiative checks). Its a trait you will find on more characters then any other trait in PFS. Everyone's character seems to have been bullied as a child. Did people pick that for backstory? Or for its mechanical benefits?</p>@Skystarlit1,
Oh mind, you said it Skystarlit1. Those are the points that have us all unhappy.
*I don't agree with every point and I do feel there should be more to the list, but its pretty much spot on.
On point 2. I'm playing in 5ed right now. The limit on the difference between someone trained in a skill and someone who is not, feels very unrealistic.
It breaks the suspension of disbelief, when a weak in strength character can move something that a clearly stronger character can't.
On...Secane2018-08-06T08:15:44ZRe: Forums: Running the Game: Has any one noticed Secret Checks? Taking player agency awaySecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2vamx?Has-any-one-noticed-Secret-Checks-Taking#152018-08-11T04:39:45Z2018-08-06T07:59:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Br11741 wrote:</div><blockquote> I’m not talking about a GM rolling behind a screen, I’m talking about a GM rolling for the player. Skill check that have the Secret Trait are rolled by the GM not the player. </blockquote><p>Solution:
</p>
Have the player roll for it, then before the dice stop rolling, cover it with the GM screen and only the GM gets to see the results.</p>
<p>So now, the player gets to roll and the GM gets to play out the results.</p>Br11741 wrote:I’m not talking about a GM rolling behind a screen, I’m talking about a GM rolling for the player. Skill check that have the Secret Trait are rolled by the GM not the player.
Solution:
Have the player roll for it, then before the dice stop rolling, cover it with the GM screen and only the GM gets to see the results.So now, the player gets to roll and the GM gets to play out the results.Secane2018-08-06T07:59:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest General Discussion: Inclusiveness also for metric system usersSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2van5?Inclusiveness-also-for-metric-system-users#32018-08-09T03:17:10Z2018-08-06T07:54:56Z<p>@Kondenado, as a metric system user, I have to agree with John Lynch 106.
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Imperial does feel more old timey. After all it came about organically. Even the terms used in imperial, like pounds, meant different amounts in difference places in real life. Imperial itself is kinda forced to standardise somewhat in the modern age.</p>
<p>Metric is really good in real life, but remember its origin. It came about after a large number of countries decided to standardise units of measurement. To help improve trade, makes life easier for everyone and basically be less confusing. </p>
<p>Since Golarion only uses 1 common system (as far as we know). There isn't a need to have metrics, as everyone is using that one system.
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From a system, story and history (in-world Golarion) perspective, there isn't a need.</p>
<p>The more science-based Starfinder on the other hand... lol...</p>@Kondenado, as a metric system user, I have to agree with John Lynch 106.
Imperial does feel more old timey. After all it came about organically. Even the terms used in imperial, like pounds, meant different amounts in difference places in real life. Imperial itself is kinda forced to standardise somewhat in the modern age.
Metric is really good in real life, but remember its origin. It came about after a large number of countries decided to standardise units of measurement. To help improve...Secane2018-08-06T07:54:56ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Free Pathfinder books (plus some other bits and pieces)Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v75h&page=3?Free-Pathfinder-books#1422018-08-05T14:26:13Z2018-08-05T14:26:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steve Geddes wrote:</div><blockquote>Congratulations to all of those successful and commiserations to those who weren't. </blockquote><p>Your sympathy is much appreciated. 4 waves... still no win in sight...Steve Geddes wrote:Congratulations to all of those successful and commiserations to those who weren't.
Your sympathy is much appreciated. 4 waves... still no win in sight...Secane2018-08-05T14:26:13ZRe: Forums: Skills, Feats, Equipment & Spells: A Request to Stop Calling Everything FeatsSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2va4a?A-Request-to-Stop-Calling-Everything-Feats#122018-08-18T02:41:47Z2018-08-03T22:02:42Z<p>The play test, as is, feels like programming language. It make sense from a system coding point of view, but the end user may not understand or use it well.</p>
<p>This means the system really don't look nice to readers as is.</p>
<p>PF2 needs to sell the story too and not the just the math.</p>The play test, as is, feels like programming language. It make sense from a system coding point of view, but the end user may not understand or use it well.
This means the system really don't look nice to readers as is.
PF2 needs to sell the story too and not the just the math.Secane2018-08-03T22:02:42ZForums: Ruins of Azlant: Which version of the clear spindle ioun stone should be used in the AP? *Spoilers*Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v9aj?Which-version-of-the-clear-spindle-ioun-stone#12018-07-26T21:59:42Z2018-07-26T21:59:42Z<p>•Spoilers Alert!•
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•Too many possible spoiler information to hide behind a Spoiler button</p>
<p>I got hold of this AP recently and I'm planning to run it in the near future.</p>
<p>While reading the first book, I noticed that the "clear spindle ioun stone", specifically its resonance's power, is an important plot device.</p>
<p>Namely, the clear spindle ioun stone used to grand a permanent mind protecting effect as per protection from evil as its resonance power and this effect is part of the AP's story.
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However, in the newer Adventurer's Guide, this was changed to a daily casting of protection from. Or as an immediate action to cast protection from, but doing so as an immediate action would render the ioun stone powerless forever.</p>
<p>Checking through the books, clear spindle ioun stones are given as possible loot in the other books. </p>
<p>So which version of the clear spindle ioun stone's renounce power should these stones have? The original permanent version that the story itself relies on or the newer weaken version in the Adventurer's Guide?</p>
<p>Or alternatively choose to use the newer version as "weakened over time" versions of the original? </p>
<p>•Side note: I'm flabbergasted that the AP actually relies on an item's power that was "nerfed" just months before the AP published as an important plot device.</p>*Spoilers Alert!*
*Too many possible spoiler information to hide behind a Spoiler button
I got hold of this AP recently and I'm planning to run it in the near future.
While reading the first book, I noticed that the "clear spindle ioun stone", specifically its resonance's power, is an important plot device.
Namely, the clear spindle ioun stone used to grand a permanent mind protecting effect as per protection from evil as its resonance power and this effect is part of the AP's story....Secane2018-07-26T21:59:42ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Druid Class PreviewSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkyq&page=7?Druid-Class-Preview#3462018-07-26T15:42:06Z2018-07-26T15:29:38Z<p>After reading through it all, I'm actually very concern about the order system for druids.
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It seems very limiting when compared to the other classes's ability to pick up different class features.</p>
<p>It feels like druids are being shoe horned into various roles based on their order. So a storm druid would literally be only be able to be a blaster type character etc.</p>
<p>This is not the case with the current druid. Two players can play say a Bear Shaman archetype druid now and turn up at the table with very different play styles and character concepts. One can be a summoner and the other focus on wildshaping. A 3rd druid player can even focus on making use of a domain etc.</p>
<p>Reading all these playtest blogs have my 4ed memories screaming out in warning! The math is there! But where is the love?</p>
<p>•Edit: It also feels similar to how 5ed's limited Cleric's Domains, which would force your cleric in to specific roles they can't break out off.</p>After reading through it all, I'm actually very concern about the order system for druids.
It seems very limiting when compared to the other classes's ability to pick up different class features.
It feels like druids are being shoe horned into various roles based on their order. So a storm druid would literally be only be able to be a blaster type character etc.
This is not the case with the current druid. Two players can play say a Bear Shaman archetype druid now and turn up at the table...Secane2018-07-26T15:29:38ZRe: Forums: Advice: Soundstriker bard opinion optionsSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v8x1?Soundstriker-bard-opinion-options#72018-07-20T17:23:23Z2018-07-20T17:23:23Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Evilserran wrote:</div><blockquote><p> @secane can you explain "can blow anything apart" ? kind of vague. The horn which is new to me, says it increases performance level variant by 6, but doesnt do increased damage for a sound striker, although albeit could use 1-2 more words, but that's about all i see.</p>
<p>As for thundercaller, I'll give it a look see, but this is a PFS char, so i would have to retrain, i believ ei ma currently level 3
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</blockquote><p><b>1-2 more words</b> is like 4d6 to 8d6 more damage, which is quite a lot of damage. Especially given that its sonic dmg, which is rarely resisted.
<p>Three Reasons to Live makes a soundstriker from a pretty good archetype to a really good archetype.</p>
<p>Are there better damage builds out there? Sure. But Three Reasons to Live + Soundstriker is well in the top damage builds.</p>Evilserran wrote:@secane can you explain "can blow anything apart" ? kind of vague. The horn which is new to me, says it increases performance level variant by 6, but doesnt do increased damage for a sound striker, although albeit could use 1-2 more words, but that's about all i see.
As for thundercaller, I'll give it a look see, but this is a PFS char, so i would have to retrain, i believ ei ma currently level 3
1-2 more words is like 4d6 to 8d6 more damage, which is quite a lot of damage....Secane2018-07-20T17:23:23ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: ♫ A Spoonful of Sugar ♫Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6sm&page=3?-A-Spoonful-of-Sugar#1062018-07-19T20:36:17Z2018-07-19T18:57:42Z<p>Iomedae protects!</p>
<p>Just finished playing a great 10-11 tier Core game with my Cleric of Iomedae and it was... great! </p>
<p>In the last fights, I was using Glory Domain's Divine Presence (Su) every turn to rob the enemies of the chance to hurt my party.</p>
<p>In classic PFS, the Glory domain is hardly pick by anyone. And if they do, they would often pick the heroic subdomain instead, thanks to the heroism aura. There are just so many other better options for most clerics to pick from.</p>
<p>But here in Core games, the Glory domain really shines! And its helped by the whole party winning initiative. (Improve Initiative is also very popular here in Core games. Feats that people usually couldn't be bother with in Classic.) </p>
<p>I just had to delay till after my party had made their attacks, before throwing up Divine Presence and seeing the enemies struggle to even land hits on my party. I'm not even a caster cleric with a way high wis to boot! But a melee combat cleric with 20 str. </p>
<p>Love the fact that in Core the party actually works better together. We have to rely more on each other to succeed!</p>Iomedae protects!
Just finished playing a great 10-11 tier Core game with my Cleric of Iomedae and it was... great!
In the last fights, I was using Glory Domain's Divine Presence (Su) every turn to rob the enemies of the chance to hurt my party.
In classic PFS, the Glory domain is hardly pick by anyone. And if they do, they would often pick the heroic subdomain instead, thanks to the heroism aura. There are just so many other better options for most clerics to pick from.
But here in Core...Secane2018-07-19T18:57:42ZRe: Forums: Advice: Soundstriker bard opinion optionsSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v8x1?Soundstriker-bard-opinion-options#42018-07-19T18:43:37Z2018-07-19T18:43:37Z<p>Three Reasons to Live is so OP when used with a Soundstriker!</p>
<p>6 levels higher! My friend plays a bard with Three Reasons to Live in PFS and he can pretty much blow anything apart.</p>Three Reasons to Live is so OP when used with a Soundstriker!
6 levels higher! My friend plays a bard with Three Reasons to Live in PFS and he can pretty much blow anything apart.Secane2018-07-19T18:43:37ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Ranger Class PreviewSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkw1&page=3?Ranger-Class-Preview#1312018-07-02T21:51:56Z2018-07-02T21:50:32Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Seifter wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Bruno Mares wrote:</div><blockquote> Snares/traps can be an ok/nice/interesting option, but as a permanent/common/fixed/main class feature, you're doing totally wrong... </blockquote>They are a nice/interesting option. They are not a fixed class feature. </blockquote><p>Does this means spellcasting could still be an option for rangers?
<p>Also, the Hunt Target and Traps/Snares is giving this Ranger preview a very strong feeling of World of Warcraft(WOW)'s Hunter.</p>Mark Seifter wrote:Bruno Mares wrote: Snares/traps can be an ok/nice/interesting option, but as a permanent/common/fixed/main class feature, you're doing totally wrong...
They are a nice/interesting option. They are not a fixed class feature. Does this means spellcasting could still be an option for rangers? Also, the Hunt Target and Traps/Snares is giving this Ranger preview a very strong feeling of World of Warcraft(WOW)'s Hunter.Secane2018-07-02T21:50:32ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Potency and PotionsSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkvw&page=10?Potency-and-Potions#5002018-07-02T05:39:54Z2018-07-01T21:29:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Varun Creed wrote:</div><blockquote><p> <span class=messageboard-ooc>Now that I'm thinking a bit more about Resonance.. What about switching it from a resource that you spend to a capacity that you build up?</span></p>
<p><b>[[M]] Magical Resonance</b>
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Your body can only handle a certain capacity of magic resonating with your spirit. Your <i>maximum resonance</i> is your level + your <i>Charisma</i> modifier on each day. Any action or investment that costs a <b>[[M]]</b> counts up to this maximum capacity.
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If your body tries to resonate with more magic, there is a chance your body will reject the magic. If you're at <i>maximum resonance</i>, you can attempt to activate or invest an item anyway. You need to attempt a flat check (a d20 roll with no modifiers) against a DC equal to 10 + the number of points you go over your <i>maximum resonance</i> capacity. So the first item has a 50% chance of working, and it gets more risky from there. </blockquote><p>I really like this proposal. It reminds me of how the over use of magic is handled in some fantasy settings.
<p>For example, in the circle of magic books, magical healing gets harder on a person who have received too much magical healing. The mage describes it in-world as the lingering older healing spells are fighting the fresher newer healing spells. </p>
<p>Pathfinder 2 needs to stop looking at the system purely from a mechanical or math only view and focus too on the flavor and in-world setting.
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Both the math and flavor needs to work hand in hand for a good game system.</p>
<p>Otherwise PF2 would be no different from 4ed D&D, where the math and need to balance everything was made to the point that the game resembles a very stale CRPG instead. Turn away the very people that come to Pathfinder.</p>
<p>Really hope that the designers are taking our words to heart. We are not posting to spite Pathfinder 2.0. A new system is great! Especially after so many years of material build up in PF1.0.</p>
<p>We are posting, cos we really care about Pathfinder and want PF2.0 to be great and fun to play in.
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Don't alienate your fans just for the sake of change.</p>Varun Creed wrote:Now that I'm thinking a bit more about Resonance.. What about switching it from a resource that you spend to a capacity that you build up?
[[M]] Magical Resonance
Your body can only handle a certain capacity of magic resonating with your spirit. Your maximum resonance is your level + your Charisma modifier on each day. Any action or investment that costs a [[M]] counts up to this maximum capacity.
If your body tries to resonate with more magic, there is a chance your body...Secane2018-07-01T21:29:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Potency and PotionsSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkvw&page=8?Potency-and-Potions#3902018-07-03T11:39:13Z2018-06-30T19:55:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Corrik wrote:</div><blockquote><p> P1: Then I'll drink my Dragon's Breath Potion and show him what real morning's breath smells like!</p>
<p>P2: Don't be stupid, you only have 2 RP left. Complete waste of the potion and you'll be SOL if you get knocked out. </p>
<p>P1: Oh yeah, never mind I'll just full attack then. </blockquote><p>This is a good example of why Resonance(RP) just seems odd. Its purely mechanical and don't make sense from a roleplay point of view.
<p>How is Resonance even explained in-world? That's something that really needs to be thought out first.</p>Corrik wrote:P1: Then I'll drink my Dragon's Breath Potion and show him what real morning's breath smells like!
P2: Don't be stupid, you only have 2 RP left. Complete waste of the potion and you'll be SOL if you get knocked out.
P1: Oh yeah, never mind I'll just full attack then.
This is a good example of why Resonance(RP) just seems odd. Its purely mechanical and don't make sense from a roleplay point of view. How is Resonance even explained in-world? That's something that really needs to...Secane2018-06-30T19:55:14ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Trinkets and TreasuresSecanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkvl&page=20?Trinkets-and-Treasures#9882018-07-06T16:32:52Z2018-06-29T21:15:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Trinkets and Treasures wrote:</div><blockquote>"items have levels now"</blockquote><p>Where have I seen that before.... its just so familiar....
<p>Oh right!</p>
<p><b>....4th Edition D&D....</b></p>Trinkets and Treasures wrote:"items have levels now"
Where have I seen that before.... its just so familiar.... Oh right!
....4th Edition D&D....Secane2018-06-29T21:15:54ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Playtest Prerelease Discussion: Paizo Blog: Gearing Up!Secanehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lkro&page=13?Gearing-Up#6332018-06-26T17:38:29Z2018-06-26T17:37:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Shield Yourself! wrote:</div><blockquote>and when using a shield, you use the lower proficiency rank of your armor or shield to calculate your Armor Class.</blockquote><p>Does this means that if a character is very proficient in using a shield, but is bad with armor, would actually be worse off when using a shield?
<p>How would this affect character ideals that don't wear/use armor, only shields?
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Like a Spartan that uses only Shield and spear?</p>
<p>Or a Viking-type that may use a shield, but may not focus too much on armor?</p>Shield Yourself! wrote:and when using a shield, you use the lower proficiency rank of your armor or shield to calculate your Armor Class.
Does this means that if a character is very proficient in using a shield, but is bad with armor, would actually be worse off when using a shield? How would this affect character ideals that don't wear/use armor, only shields?
Like a Spartan that uses only Shield and spear?
Or a Viking-type that may use a shield, but may not focus too much on armor?Secane2018-06-26T17:37:54ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Free Pathfinder books (plus some other bits and pieces)Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v75h?Free-Pathfinder-books#242018-06-20T10:57:40Z2018-06-20T10:57:40Z<p>You are giving away all your PF stuff? Wow! Thats really nice and generous of you Steve! Thank you</p>
<p>I'm putting in for Kingmaker too. Can't believe you have an entire set to give away. I'm GMing into book 3 and it would be great to have a physical book vs using only PDFs.</p>You are giving away all your PF stuff? Wow! Thats really nice and generous of you Steve! Thank you
I'm putting in for Kingmaker too. Can't believe you have an entire set to give away. I'm GMing into book 3 and it would be great to have a physical book vs using only PDFs.Secane2018-06-20T10:57:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Replay when Second Edition LaunchesSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lv&page=10?First-Edition-Replay-when-Second-Edition#4942018-06-19T08:56:16Z2018-06-19T08:44:32Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Wei Ji the Learner wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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The problem with linking it to a character is that will limit the tables that said player can participate in, or alternatively, what other players can bring to the table.</p>
<p>If, for example, one has a martial, and they are a very good martial, but that becomes the 'favored character', then that can bump someone else who •also• designated their martial character as 'favored' unless the party wants to encounter a significantly increased difficulty (depending on scenario).</p>
<p>I can't speak for anyone else, but the nightmare of sitting down to a table with say, five other barbarians (because they were all designated as 'favorite') becomes a distinct possibility, or the table may not fire.</p>
<p>It's not a •bad• idea, but... it could reduce the effectiveness of the 'fix' significantly. </blockquote><p>This is already a present situation at tables now. People may bring characters for a particular faction to play, resulting in too many characters of a one class/role etc. Or they may only have certain characters being of the right level/tier to play.
<p>Not knowing who you will be playing with a table is one of the main facets of PFS play. </p>
<p>Do you really turn someone away for playing the 5th barbarian at the table? Or pick and choose who gets in a party and who is denied? </p>
<p>If the goal is to always have the "correct" combination at the table, then why play PFS? Why not just make your own homebrew party, where you will always be playing with the "correct" party make up.</p>
<p>The randomness of a party make up is part and parcel of PFS play. PFS is a public organized play, so the party make up is always expected to be different.</p>
<p>This randomness is likely to still be there even in PFS2,0 </p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sandra Wilkinson wrote:</div><blockquote> It also means that when they level out of low tier they again have issues playing, if low teir is in demand </blockquote><p>At the least, they will have 1 character each season to restart from low level.
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Not to mention they can take the <b>slow XP track to DOUBLE</b> the amount of low level scenarios they can replay.</p>
<p>If character death is a worry, then it could be added that if your favored character dies, you can make a new one from level 1. (Not sure if this is likely to be abused.)
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If not, this could be a good opportunity to remind players that they should be careful with their characters and that the party can pool resources to rise dead a fellow player. </p>
<p>By the time replay players level out of low tier, the newer players would likely have reach mid tier as well, meaning there will be a demand for more mid and higher tier games.</p>
<p>——-
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Conclusion,
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There is a clear dislike of total unlimited replay, as seen by the number of post by other player, including VCs and other VOs. It would not be possible to come up with a system that satisfy everyone perfectly. </p>
<p>That said, the system for replay-ability post PFS2.0, should be one that everyone can work with to some degree. One that does not alienate the player/GM base.</p>
<p>My proposal for Option 2a, is to allow constant replay with a set limit. It rewards players who plays every year (Since its one character per season.), without resorting to something system breaking like unlimited replay.</p>Wei Ji the Learner wrote:The problem with linking it to a character is that will limit the tables that said player can participate in, or alternatively, what other players can bring to the table.If, for example, one has a martial, and they are a very good martial, but that becomes the 'favored character', then that can bump someone else who *also* designated their martial character as 'favored' unless the party wants to encounter a significantly increased difficulty (depending on scenario).
...Secane2018-06-19T08:44:32ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Replay when Second Edition LaunchesSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lv&page=10?First-Edition-Replay-when-Second-Edition#4892018-06-18T20:18:33Z2018-06-18T20:13:59Z<p>Back to the 5 given options, I would like to suggest a variant of Option 2</p>
<p><b>Option 2—Favored Character:</b> This model allows each participant to select one Pathfinder Society PC to ignore all replay restrictions. That could mean playing a new PC all the way from 1st level to 20th, or you could make an 8th-level PC your favored character in order to play through all of the Tier 7–11 and higher adventures. Whatever the case, everyone would be able to fulfill that limitless story with another PC.</p>
<p><b>Option 2a— Seasonal Favored Character:</b> <i>Same as Option 2, but each participant can select a new favored character at the start of each Season (Seasons start and end at each year's Gencon date.)</i></p>
<p>This means that each year, a PFS player/GM can always replay scenarios with 1 character of their choice.
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This give players something new to try out at all times, without actually having unlimited play. </p>
<p>It also avoids other issues like replay burn out or replay abuse. And allow new and older players to play together at the same table.</p>Back to the 5 given options, I would like to suggest a variant of Option 2
Option 2—Favored Character: This model allows each participant to select one Pathfinder Society PC to ignore all replay restrictions. That could mean playing a new PC all the way from 1st level to 20th, or you could make an 8th-level PC your favored character in order to play through all of the Tier 7–11 and higher adventures. Whatever the case, everyone would be able to fulfill that limitless story with another PC.
...Secane2018-06-18T20:13:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Worth building a character around an Owlbear companion?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6xj?Worth-building-a-character-around-an-Owlbear#142018-06-18T14:00:59Z2018-06-18T14:00:59Z<p>@Gummy Bear,</p>
<p>Its really no difference from how rangers can select small cats, but not big ones. Many archetypes have restrictions, its all part of being an archetype, you win some you lose some.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Slyme wrote:</div><blockquote><p> John Compton has specifically stated they are allowing Grizzly Bears to use the Owlbear boon...I just wasn't sure if I could do it now, or it I have to wait for them to update the Additional Resources before I could.</p>
<p><a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v1wg?Can-owlbear-animal-companions-use-the#50" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John's Post</a> </blockquote><p>Thank you for the link!@Gummy Bear,
Its really no difference from how rangers can select small cats, but not big ones. Many archetypes have restrictions, its all part of being an archetype, you win some you lose some.
Slyme wrote:John Compton has specifically stated they are allowing Grizzly Bears to use the Owlbear boon...I just wasn't sure if I could do it now, or it I have to wait for them to update the Additional Resources before I could.
John's Post
Thank you for the link!Secane2018-06-18T14:00:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Worth building a character around an Owlbear companion?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6xj?Worth-building-a-character-around-an-Owlbear#92018-06-17T23:09:24Z2018-06-17T23:08:37Z<p>Is the Grizzly Bear really a valid option for this boon?</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>Given that the boon specifically call out "take a bear as an animal companion"?</p>
<p>Could this be an example of similar naming? Like how the Swashbuckler Weapon Training (Ex), may have the work Weapon Training in it, but its considered a totally different class feature from a Fighter's Weapon Training (Ex) and can't be used to qualify from advanced weapon training?</p>Is the Grizzly Bear really a valid option for this boon?
[Spoiler omitted]
Given that the boon specifically call out "take a bear as an animal companion"?
Could this be an example of similar naming? Like how the Swashbuckler Weapon Training (Ex), may have the work Weapon Training in it, but its considered a totally different class feature from a Fighter's Weapon Training (Ex) and can't be used to qualify from advanced weapon training?Secane2018-06-17T23:08:37ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: is freedom of movement overpowered?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6zp?is-freedom-of-movement-overpowered#232018-06-18T06:58:08Z2018-06-17T22:30:07Z<p>@wraithstrike, Your break down of FoM is correct.</p>
<p>Once you have FoM on, the vast majority of movement restricting effects would just fail on you.</p>
<p>Even something like Tanglefoot bag would fail. Its kinda covered in by FoM spell description. </p>
<p>@DeathlessOne,
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I know you are trying to find a way to get past FoM's protections using a mundane means, but it just doesn't work that way.
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You would need dispel or a Barbarian's Spell Sunder to break it.</p>
<p>A clever Spellcaster can dispel or better yet switch to using the environment against a target under the effects of FoM.
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If you can't use black tentacle, then maybe blow up the ceiling and have it collapse on the target. FoM can't help someone trapped under a ton of rocks.</p>
<p>For martial characters, stop trying to grapple or restrict someone under FoM, just beat the target up! FoM don't protect a target from damage or attack of opportunities.</p>@wraithstrike, Your break down of FoM is correct.
Once you have FoM on, the vast majority of movement restricting effects would just fail on you.
Even something like Tanglefoot bag would fail. Its kinda covered in by FoM spell description.
@DeathlessOne,
I know you are trying to find a way to get past FoM's protections using a mundane means, but it just doesn't work that way.
You would need dispel or a Barbarian's Spell Sunder to break it.
A clever Spellcaster can dispel or better yet...Secane2018-06-17T22:30:07ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Ask *James Jacobs* ALL your Questions Here!Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=1444?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#721792018-06-22T01:06:47Z2018-06-17T21:41:38Z<p>Will there likely be a new world/region setting book for Golarion or the Inner Sea region in the PF2.0?</p>Will there likely be a new world/region setting book for Golarion or the Inner Sea region in the PF2.0?Secane2018-06-17T21:41:38ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Replay when Second Edition LaunchesSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lv&page=10?First-Edition-Replay-when-Second-Edition#4792018-06-17T21:19:22Z2018-06-17T21:17:57Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Walter Sheppard wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Nok Gaan wrote:</div><blockquote> It is humorous to see people say unlimited replay killed 4E while ignoring the fact 5E is going bonkers and it also has unlimited replay. You could easily say unlimited replay is a boon to the system using the 5E rational and would make just as much sense. </blockquote>Assuming it's true that unlimited replay is the reason 5e OP is succeeding. I have to wonder if it's because unlimited replay is simply good for a campaign <i>or</i> because 5e OP has so few scenarios that unlimited replay allows more games to go off. PFS has such a vast library of scenarios, APs, and modules at this point that unlimited replay isn't needed for most players. </blockquote><p>I just started playing 5ed's Adventure League(AL) and there are plenty of scenarios (5ed call them modules) available for play. I understand that AL is in its 7th season and moving on to its 8th. Not sure on how long is a season.
<p>For a long list of 5ed AL Modules have a look at this list <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1omoTExpdh7cdiq9NnfVpf6-CnAkGRbA-FMIiNaZXpvg/htmlview?sle=true#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Click the tabs to see the different list of modules.</p>
<p>Locally, my area has a very dedicated core group of PFS GMs and players. However it is clear that we are vastly out numbered by 5ed AL players and GMs. This is not the case even a year or 2 ago.</p>
<p>5ed's AL has spring up very quickly in my area. Main cos AL:
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1) Has games every day/night at various games stores around the city.
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2) And they can have these large numbers of games, cos the modules can be ran over and over again. AL actually REWARDS DMs and players with extra XP when a DM has ran a module for a few times.
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3) This constant availability of games, means 5ed AL is very visible to new players. They can easily look up and join a game, any day of the week.
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4) 5ed itself is very easy to jump into. (This is due mainly to how 5ed works.)
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5) D&D is a recognized brand in table top</p>
<p>As for PFS in my area? A few years back we started out just like AL, we ran games every night of the week. It was a really fun time and we got plenty of players.</p>
<p>Now? We only run a game once a week. Usually it alternates between the latest new scenario or a game for new players.
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Not able to replay means older players can't play with newer players easily. They can only end up on the same table if its a new scenario or an evergreen.</p>
<p><b>NO REPLAY = NO VISIBILITY for PFS = NO NEW PLAYERS</b></p>
<p>Those of us that play PFS, love PF and would likely play on for quite some time, but its very difficult for us to get new players. We just don't have the visibility. </p>
<p>Breakdown of issues PFS faces in my area
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1) PFS lack visibility compared to other organized play groups like 5ed AL.
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2) This lack of visibility means we can't get new players to join easily, as they often end up being absorbed by other organized play that runs more frequently like 5ed AL.
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3) The lack of visibility is due to us unable to run games often.
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4) Because most older players can't play older scenarios that they have already played and new Scenarios only come out like 2 per month.
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5) Which means we are back to the first issue, which is a lack of visibility.</p>
<p>I do hope everyone can see we are in a Egg and the Chicken situation here. We can't get an egg, cos we don't have a chicken, and we can't get a chicken, cos we lack eggs.</p>
<p>Our Core group of PFS players and GMs can't grow our group, cos its very hard to get new players in without having more visibility.
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This are just the facts of our current situation. PFS vs AL is like a PC game vs a mobile game. One is just going to be way more accessible then the other. In that view, it could also explain why both groups draw in a different kind of player/GM.</p>
<p>To the OP, which method is best? The one that can bring people back to playing Pathfinder and STAY playing Pathfinder.</p>
<p>———</p>
<p>On that note, here are some interesting notes on 5ed AL:
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- All their modules are re-playable and this allows them to run plenty of games.
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- The AL games are very abuse-able. This is due to how AL works.
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- Why abuse-able? Cos usually only the modules with better rewards are constantly being run.
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- Each AL module has the potential to reward the party as a whole 1 magical item, that the party members must then decide or roll-off to see who gets it,
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- Since 5ed DOES NOT balance how magic items work, it means magic items of the same "rarity" are all not equal.
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- So a player may end up with a winged boots (limited, slower flight and uses a attunement slot), while another may get a broom of flying (unlimited flight, no slot needed). AL threats both items as of equal value. Even if it is clear that one item is vastly more superior then another.
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- This means DMs would usually only run those modules that give the "better" items, cos why not?</p>
<p>- Interestingly, there have been an announcement recently that the 8th Season of 5ed AL would make major changes to the way EXP and magic items are rewarded. The changes make AL behave a lot more like PFS now.
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XP is being change to a fix number of games. Gold reward is no longer decided by the GM, but a fix number and magic item reward is based on the number of hrs played by the character. Characters can use the number of hrs played to "purchase" magic items off certain tables.
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I guess they must have realized that the current AL is very chaotic and not in a good way.
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<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AdventurersLeague/comments/8reqjm/shared_campaign_rules_are_coming_to_season_8/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Check out AL Season 8</a></p>Walter Sheppard wrote:Nok Gaan wrote: It is humorous to see people say unlimited replay killed 4E while ignoring the fact 5E is going bonkers and it also has unlimited replay. You could easily say unlimited replay is a boon to the system using the 5E rational and would make just as much sense.
Assuming it's true that unlimited replay is the reason 5e OP is succeeding. I have to wonder if it's because unlimited replay is simply good for a campaign or because 5e OP has so few scenarios that...Secane2018-06-17T21:17:57ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Bard Masterpieces and Bardic PerformanceSecanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2swgz&page=17?Bard-Masterpieces-and-Bardic-Performance#8462018-06-17T20:23:45Z2018-06-17T20:22:18Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">VRMH wrote:</div><blockquote> Does anyone have any good remarks to bump this thread with? I'm running out of inane babblings. </blockquote><p>Its at 400++ FAQ requests and NO REPLY? •Shock
<p>I know Paizo staff can be very busy, but this does warrant a look at by the Paizo design team.</p>
<p>At the very least, it should be clear that there is a significant number of people that feel strongly enough about this for it to be addressed as a FAQ candidate.
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Its a disservice to customers to ignore a topic with such a high number of FAQ request.</p>VRMH wrote:Does anyone have any good remarks to bump this thread with? I'm running out of inane babblings.
Its at 400++ FAQ requests and NO REPLY? *Shock I know Paizo staff can be very busy, but this does warrant a look at by the Paizo design team.
At the very least, it should be clear that there is a significant number of people that feel strongly enough about this for it to be addressed as a FAQ candidate.
Its a disservice to customers to ignore a topic with such a high number of FAQ...Secane2018-06-17T20:22:18ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: is freedom of movement overpowered?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6zp?is-freedom-of-movement-overpowered#162018-06-18T06:59:12Z2018-06-17T20:09:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">wraithstrike wrote:</div><blockquote> I didnt know about those Talismans. I used the unfettered shirt which allowed me to use FoM once per day. It's 5000 gp, which also isn't bad. </blockquote><p>Unfettered shirt cost 10k. It is 5k to craft it.
<p>Its price is why some prefer the talisman.</p>wraithstrike wrote:I didnt know about those Talismans. I used the unfettered shirt which allowed me to use FoM once per day. It's 5000 gp, which also isn't bad.
Unfettered shirt cost 10k. It is 5k to craft it. Its price is why some prefer the talisman.Secane2018-06-17T20:09:39ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: is freedom of movement overpowered?Secanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v6zp?is-freedom-of-movement-overpowered#142018-06-17T20:05:56Z2018-06-17T20:05:56Z<p>FoM is not more weaker or powerful then plenty of other spells.</p>
<p>Spells are just able to do stuff that beyond the norm. That is why it is called magic.</p>
<p>If FoM is powerful, then what is raise dead, haste or wish?</p>FoM is not more weaker or powerful then plenty of other spells.
Spells are just able to do stuff that beyond the norm. That is why it is called magic.
If FoM is powerful, then what is raise dead, haste or wish?Secane2018-06-17T20:05:56ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Chronicling Salvation of the Sages [Spoilers]Groin "Beardy" Greenleaf (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uodu&page=2?Chronicling-Salvation-of-the-Sages-Spoilers#802018-07-26T06:37:47Z2018-06-08T16:54:33Z<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>[Spoiler omitted]Groin "Beardy" Greenleaf (alias of Secane)2018-06-08T16:54:33ZRe: Forums: Advice: What to take for a grappler build, Master of many Styles or Tetori?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szud?What-to-take-for-a-grappler-build-Master-of#102015-10-11T14:25:43Z2015-10-11T14:25:43Z<p>If this is for PFS, then a multi-class build would work.</p>
<p>If it is for a homebrew or AP, where the class levels can go beyond level 12, then a pure Tetori monk would make more sense, as it can handle stuff like Freedom of Movement or teleporting enemies.</p>If this is for PFS, then a multi-class build would work.
If it is for a homebrew or AP, where the class levels can go beyond level 12, then a pure Tetori monk would make more sense, as it can handle stuff like Freedom of Movement or teleporting enemies.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-11T14:25:43ZRe: Forums: Advice: Is causing the lost of innocence an evil act?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szyn?Is-causing-the-lost-of-innocence-an-evil-act#272015-10-11T10:11:34Z2015-10-11T10:11:34Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Qaianna wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Wing Storm wrote:</div><blockquote><p> @Qaianna,
</p>
Do you have a link to the Paladin Guide?
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I'm trying to better understand the class, both as a GM and as a player.</p>
<p>There is also a player playing a paladin in my group and I want to help her (and myself) understand what is considered good or evil actions for her character.</blockquote><p>It's at <a href="http://zenithgames.blogspot.com/2012/12/should-paladin-fall.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Zenith Games.</a>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Wing Storm wrote:</div><blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Qaianna wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Wing Storm wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Let's go with with an example...</p>
<p>1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party discovers parents have been turn to vampire spawns and proceeds to slay parents in front of child, after deciding that finding a means to save the parents is too much trouble or costly.</blockquote>This one skirts close to evil, but again it depends. What's 'too much trouble or costly'? A third level party might not have access to a 50,000 gp diamond if it's part of the 'cure' for vampirism (whatever that might be). But if it's just 'make vampire gargle holy water to rinse out evil' and they're too cheap to spring the 25 gold for that, that's another thing.</blockquote><p>What if the child is present at the encounter, begging (in tears) the party to save his parents, only to have the party goes "Well, let's just kill the parents, we can just diplo the kid later."
<p>How would you act as the GM, if the above is your party's responds in such a situation? </blockquote><p>In that case, it's still a fine line. Why are they going that route?
<p>Moral questions are said to have 'grey areas', but I personally believe that it's not as much 'grey area' as it is 'please be more specific'. 'Diplo the kid later because if we talk now the monsters eat the bard next round' isn't evil ... </blockquote><p>Thanks for the link. I'm going to sent it to my player.
<p>To better phrase the above situation, the question would be "Should characters be affected by the behavior/responds of their players?"</p>
<p>Basically, if players behave or respond in a mean or evil manner in a situation where their characters act in a neutral (evil-leaning) manner, should the player be factored into the results of the situation?</p>
<p>How far do we separate the player from their characters?</p>Qaianna wrote:Wing Storm wrote:@Qaianna,
Do you have a link to the Paladin Guide?
I'm trying to better understand the class, both as a GM and as a player.There is also a player playing a paladin in my group and I want to help her (and myself) understand what is considered good or evil actions for her character.
It's at Zenith Games. Wing Storm wrote:Qaianna wrote: Wing Storm wrote: Let's go with with an example...
1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-11T10:11:34ZRe: Forums: Advice: I want to be the party face, what classes are there to choose from?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szy8?I-want-to-be-the-party-face-what-classes-are#192015-10-11T08:56:28Z2015-10-11T08:56:28Z<p>Oh heck. I'm too late.</p>
<p>I was going to suggest a Glory domain Cleric for the Touch of Glory (Sp) power. This gives you a character that can heal and still do cha checks.</p>
<p>Touch of Glory (Sp): You can cause your hand to shimmer with divine radiance, allowing you to touch a creature as a standard action and give it a bonus equal to your cleric level on a single Charisma-based skill check or Charisma ability check. This ability lasts for 1 hour or until the creature touched elects to apply the bonus to a roll. You can use this ability to grant the bonus a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.</p>Oh heck. I'm too late.
I was going to suggest a Glory domain Cleric for the Touch of Glory (Sp) power. This gives you a character that can heal and still do cha checks.
Touch of Glory (Sp): You can cause your hand to shimmer with divine radiance, allowing you to touch a creature as a standard action and give it a bonus equal to your cleric level on a single Charisma-based skill check or Charisma ability check. This ability lasts for 1 hour or until the creature touched elects to apply the...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-11T08:56:28ZRe: Forums: Advice: Is causing the lost of innocence an evil act?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szyn?Is-causing-the-lost-of-innocence-an-evil-act#232015-10-11T08:48:14Z2015-10-11T08:48:14Z<p>@Qaianna,
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Do you have a link to the Paladin Guide?
<br />
I'm trying to better understand the class, both as a GM and as a player.</p>
<p>There is also a player playing a paladin in my group and I want to help her (and myself) understand what is considered good or evil actions for her character.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Qaianna wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Wing Storm wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Let's go with with an example...</p>
<p>1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party discovers parents have been turn to vampire spawns and proceeds to slay parents in front of child, after deciding that finding a means to save the parents is too much trouble or costly.</blockquote>This one skirts close to evil, but again it depends. What's 'too much trouble or costly'? A third level party might not have access to a 50,000 gp diamond if it's part of the 'cure' for vampirism (whatever that might be). But if it's just 'make vampire gargle holy water to rinse out evil' and they're too cheap to spring the 25 gold for that, that's another thing.</blockquote><p>What if the child is present at the encounter, begging (in tears) the party to save his parents, only to have the party goes "Well, let's just kill the parents, we can just diplo the kid later."
<p>How would you act as the GM, if the above is your party's responds in such a situation?</p>@Qaianna,
Do you have a link to the Paladin Guide?
I'm trying to better understand the class, both as a GM and as a player.
There is also a player playing a paladin in my group and I want to help her (and myself) understand what is considered good or evil actions for her character.
Qaianna wrote:Wing Storm wrote:Let's go with with an example...
1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party discovers parents have been turn to vampire spawns and proceeds to...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-11T08:48:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Is causing the lost of innocence an evil act?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szyn?Is-causing-the-lost-of-innocence-an-evil-act#92015-10-10T18:45:07Z2015-10-10T18:45:07Z<p>Let's go with with an example...</p>
<p>1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party discovers parents have been turn to vampire spawns and proceeds to slay parents in front of child, after deciding that finding a means to save the parents is too much trouble or costly.</p>
<p>2) Same as above, but decides to kill of parents, as the party don't know of any means to turn parents back to humans or were forced to while in self defence.</p>
<p>How would you rule is both of this situations?</p>
<p>I'm asking cos I want to be sure that if I do encounter such a situation in an adventure path or module, I know the appropriate answer.
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Also everyone thinks differently on the same topic. See blue/white dress as an example.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">My Self wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Are you acting primarily and intentionally to make them lose their innocence?</p>
<p>If so, then yes. </blockquote><p>Nope. Just wanting to make sure I got every possible outcome covered.Let's go with with an example...
1)Say a child ask the party to save his parents who have gone missing. Party discovers parents have been turn to vampire spawns and proceeds to slay parents in front of child, after deciding that finding a means to save the parents is too much trouble or costly.
2) Same as above, but decides to kill of parents, as the party don't know of any means to turn parents back to humans or were forced to while in self defence.
How would you rule is both of this...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-10T18:45:07ZForums: Advice: Is causing the lost of innocence an evil act?Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2szyn?Is-causing-the-lost-of-innocence-an-evil-act#12015-10-10T17:33:28Z2015-10-10T17:33:28Z<p>There are many adventures where the actions of the party can have lasting effects on NPCs.</p>
<p>If the actions of a character or the party causes an NPC to lose their innocence, should this be considered an evil act?</p>
<p>Examples of a lost of innocence would be actions or the results of the party's actions that causes a traumatizing experience for NPC/s.
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Or actions that results in an NPC's alignment turning from good or neutral to evil.</p>There are many adventures where the actions of the party can have lasting effects on NPCs.
If the actions of a character or the party causes an NPC to lose their innocence, should this be considered an evil act?
Examples of a lost of innocence would be actions or the results of the party's actions that causes a traumatizing experience for NPC/s.
Or actions that results in an NPC's alignment turning from good or neutral to evil.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-10-10T17:33:28ZRe: Forums: Advice: I need help with this Savage Technologist build.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2syqs?I-need-help-with-this-Savage-Technologist-build#72015-09-26T22:27:01Z2015-09-26T22:27:01Z<p>•I need to sleep right after this post, but hopefully this can help a little. </p>
<p>Numeria isn't all tribes. There are numerous settlements, from Technic League outposts, to Kellid tribes, to simple mining towns or even towns that hate the Technic League and worship Erastil.</p>
<p>You already explained why Seven can rage and she is basically using a homebrewed class. So there is no real need to "explain" further why she is a Savage Technologist.
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She is simply an android with the ability to overclock her metabolism and love to use guns.</p>
<p>Now given that she is a devoid worshiper of Brigh, that could lead to interesting ideals for Seven.
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You can ...</p>
<p>1) Go with a light touch and just use appropriate background traits to reflect Seven's devotion to Brigh. Role playing her as such.
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So keep pure Savage Technologist and just use traits and RP Seven.</p>
<p>•Remember a "priest" is not always a divine class.</p>
<p>-
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2) A dip in divine caster approach. Go mainly Savage Technologist, but take 1 level dip in Cleric, Oracle or Warpriest to give Seven a touch of the divine, without taking away too much from the base.</p>
<p>This would allow you to mainly be a Savage Technologist, but able to make use of divine items like wands of Cure light wounds.</p>
<p>-
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3) Go with a more indepth approach and make Seven's devotion part of her class make up.</p>
<p>You could a) Keep 5 levels of ST (Savage Technologist) and go the rest with warpriest. Or b) Go with just a level or two of ST and the rest in Warpriest.
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I'm just recommending warpriest as it has powers that fit the divine-warrior type character. Other classes like cleric or oracle are also options.</p>
<p>Note that Warpriest (WP) is one of those classes where you would preferably want to keep as many levels in, as their class features and spells get much better as you level. It is not really a good class to dip into, unlike cleric or oracles.</p>
<p><b> <i> EDIT: That said, you will want levels in ST. As you would want sufficient number of rounds of rage and at the very least that lv 2 Sword and Gun (Ex) archetype feature. The lv 5, DEX to range damage is also very attractive.</p>
<p>In short, if you want to mix the two (ST and WP), you will need to decide which class to focus on, both are good, but make sure you don't spread yourself TOO THIN.
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Aka, spreading even levels of ST and WP, may actually be counter productive. It's like not having a Head or a Tail, becoming effectively mediocre. </p>
<p>If "I" have to pick a choice for Seven, I would either go either 1) More ST with a lv dip into Cleric for domains OR 2) Go More WP with 2 levels of ST for Sword and Gun.</p>
<p>In the end the choice is yours.
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</i> </b> </p>
<p>—
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In conclusion, I think you really don't need to fuss too much on what Classes Seven is make up of. I think Seven is a solid character concept and even if she is a straight up fighter, she would be a great character as long as you are able to role play her well. </p>
<p>Hope all these helps! And good luck in your adventure. </p>
<p>I really need to sleep. Got a game to GM in 7 hours... :P</p>
<p>PS:Seven kinds of reminds me of a character ideal, I'm working on. In my case, its a "Nun with a Gun". A Divine caster, using a gun. I'm planning to take a level of Gunslinger and the rest of Warpriest.</p>*I need to sleep right after this post, but hopefully this can help a little.
Numeria isn't all tribes. There are numerous settlements, from Technic League outposts, to Kellid tribes, to simple mining towns or even towns that hate the Technic League and worship Erastil.
You already explained why Seven can rage and she is basically using a homebrewed class. So there is no real need to "explain" further why she is a Savage Technologist.
She is simply an android with the ability to overclock...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-09-26T22:27:01ZRe: Forums: Advice: I need help with this Savage Technologist build.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2syqs?I-need-help-with-this-Savage-Technologist-build#52015-09-26T21:36:04Z2015-09-26T21:36:04Z<p>Before we jump into build, it would be best if we understand your Character first.</p>
<p>What is his backstory? How did an android became a Savage Technologist?
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Where is he from? Are there things he is scared of? Or things he like? Etc.</p>
<p>Only with an understanding of your character can you decide on what combination of classes, feats and traits, best fit your character ideal.</p>Before we jump into build, it would be best if we understand your Character first.
What is his backstory? How did an android became a Savage Technologist?
Where is he from? Are there things he is scared of? Or things he like? Etc.
Only with an understanding of your character can you decide on what combination of classes, feats and traits, best fit your character ideal.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-09-26T21:36:04ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Wild shape into templated formWing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2syta?Wild-shape-into-templated-form#52015-09-26T21:21:39Z2015-09-26T21:21:39Z<p>Thanks dragonhunterq for the link. :)</p>Thanks dragonhunterq for the link. :)Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-09-26T21:21:39ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Wild shape into templated formWing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2syta?Wild-shape-into-templated-form#32015-09-26T21:15:55Z2015-09-26T21:15:55Z<p>Nope. A Druid cannot wild shape into templated version of animals.</p>
<p>The only exception to this limitation is the Eagle Shaman Druid archetype. They can wildshape into young template Rocs. This is due to the lack of available alternatives for Eagle Shaman Druid archetype and affects them only.
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The Eagle Shaman Druid archetype ruling appeared in an FAQ on that archetype.</p>Nope. A Druid cannot wild shape into templated version of animals.
The only exception to this limitation is the Eagle Shaman Druid archetype. They can wildshape into young template Rocs. This is due to the lack of available alternatives for Eagle Shaman Druid archetype and affects them only.
The Eagle Shaman Druid archetype ruling appeared in an FAQ on that archetype.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-09-26T21:15:55ZRe: Forums: Advice: I need help with this Savage Technologist build.Wing Storm (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2syqs?I-need-help-with-this-Savage-Technologist-build#32015-09-26T21:02:12Z2015-09-26T21:02:12Z<p>It looks fine. With those stats (which I assume is pre-rage and rolled for, or an array) you should have almost no problems in a fight.</p>
<p>Some points to take note off -</p>
<p>1) As you may be picking up a wide variety of different range weapons in the Iron Gods AP, you may want to avoid weapon focus feats, unless you have access to other feats that expend the bonus from weapon focus to other similar weapons. Aka, avoid specializing too much on any single weapon.</p>
<p>2) Are you given a fix amount of gold or items to have at hand? As I notice you don't have any buff items like Belt of Incredible Dexterity or similar items. You may want to have some items to enhance your stats or abilities.</p>
<p>3) You may want to consider going into another class past lv 5 in Savage Technologist, like fighter, ranger or slayer if you are concern about a lack of feats.</p>
<p>3a) Or even classes like warpriest, magus or alchemist. If you want to try something different and add an extra layer of curiosity to your character.</p>
<p>Your character looks fine. Unless there is an extra factor that you did not mention, like a bloodthirsty GM, you should be fine.</p>It looks fine. With those stats (which I assume is pre-rage and rolled for, or an array) you should have almost no problems in a fight.
Some points to take note off -
1) As you may be picking up a wide variety of different range weapons in the Iron Gods AP, you may want to avoid weapon focus feats, unless you have access to other feats that expend the bonus from weapon focus to other similar weapons. Aka, avoid specializing too much on any single weapon.
2) Are you given a fix amount of...Wing Storm (alias of Secane)2015-09-26T21:02:12ZRe: Forums: Grand Lodge: Grand Lodge Faction Status Report - Year of the Sky KeyGloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rbem?Grand-Lodge-Faction-Status-Report-Year-of#42014-07-29T04:37:09Z2014-07-29T04:37:09Z<p>Ahhhh.... more travel. I know I should have invest in long term travel insurance years ago.</p>Ahhhh.... more travel. I know I should have invest in long term travel insurance years ago.Gloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)2014-07-29T04:37:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Raised eyebrows for unusual pairing of race/class/faith?Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2r93h&page=2?Raised-eyebrows-for-unusual-pairing-of#662014-07-12T05:29:44Z2014-07-12T05:29:44Z<p>I get raised eyebrows just by playing a character in drag. </p>
<p>IC:</p>
<p>I get raised eyebrows, just by being in drag...</p>
<p>-Aunty Mei</p>I get raised eyebrows just by playing a character in drag.
IC:
I get raised eyebrows, just by being in drag...
-Aunty MeiAunty Mei (alias of Secane)2014-07-12T05:29:44ZRe: Forums: Advice: Help, "good" character killed an innocent! How to handle?!Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qyb4?Help-good-character-killed-an-innocent-How-to#122014-04-30T04:27:41Z2014-04-30T04:27:41Z<p>@Mx Smur , Hummm... as the cleric/paladin of Sarenrae, I guess your only option is to seduce the warlock, then convert him to good by showing him true love. And also not giving him love if he is a bad bad boy.</p>@Mx Smur , Hummm... as the cleric/paladin of Sarenrae, I guess your only option is to seduce the warlock, then convert him to good by showing him true love. And also not giving him love if he is a bad bad boy.Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2014-04-30T04:27:41ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qnjr&page=3?You-know-youre-in-trouble-when-you-get-to-the#1362014-02-07T10:49:26Z2014-02-07T10:49:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bruno Breakbone wrote:</div><blockquote><p> You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...</p>
<p>...Bruno can't grapple it. </blockquote><p>Aunty Mei regrets not learning the way of Bruno... when she realize rage and a 40+ to grapple CMD does not helps vs Freedom of Movement.Bruno Breakbone wrote:You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...
...Bruno can't grapple it.
Aunty Mei regrets not learning the way of Bruno... when she realize rage and a 40+ to grapple CMD does not helps vs Freedom of Movement.Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2014-02-07T10:49:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Auntie Baltwin as a PC...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qlem?Auntie-Baltwin-as-a-PC#202014-01-22T09:03:41Z2014-01-22T09:03:41Z<p>Nothing is wrong for an Auntie to join the Pathfinders.
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Moi, has had a very successful career as a pathfinder. </p>
<p>You go Auntie!</p>
<p>Yours Truly,
<br />
Aunty Mei,
<br />
Seeker of the Society
<br />
Matchmaker & Marriage Broker</p>
<p>(OOC: My Aunty Mei is a grappler Barbarian with some notoriety among local PFS players. Does not help that she is a dude in drag... :P)</p>Nothing is wrong for an Auntie to join the Pathfinders.
Moi, has had a very successful career as a pathfinder.
You go Auntie!
Yours Truly,
Aunty Mei,
Seeker of the Society
Matchmaker & Marriage Broker
(OOC: My Aunty Mei is a grappler Barbarian with some notoriety among local PFS players. Does not help that she is a dude in drag... :P)Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2014-01-22T09:03:41ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Maslow's Pathfinders: How far down is the pathfinder society on your priorities list?Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qa0a?Maslows-Pathfinders-How-far-down-is-the#442013-10-22T11:02:26Z2013-10-22T11:02:26Z<p>Hummm.... My highest level PFS character:</p>
<p><b>Aunty Mei - (Seeker of the Society, Matchmaker of Falayna)</b></p>
<p>1.) Getting her daughter a life partner
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2.) Protecting lovers and children
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3.) Finding the life partners for Singles
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4.) Arranging for Singles to go on dates
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5.) Checking if the "life numbers" of couples match up
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6.) Persuading the families of couples to allow marriage
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7.) Looking out for auspicious dates for weddings and events
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8.) Planning Weddings
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9.) Officiating Weddings - Tying the knot for couples
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10.) Midwife services
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11.) Marriage counselling
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12.) Officiating renewal of vows ceremonies
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13.) Getting her fellow Pathfinder to do the above (Edit)
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14.) Pathfinder Society (Dropped down, from 13th to 14th)</p>Hummm.... My highest level PFS character:
Aunty Mei - (Seeker of the Society, Matchmaker of Falayna)
1.) Getting her daughter a life partner
2.) Protecting lovers and children
3.) Finding the life partners for Singles
4.) Arranging for Singles to go on dates
5.) Checking if the "life numbers" of couples match up
6.) Persuading the families of couples to allow marriage
7.) Looking out for auspicious dates for weddings and events
8.) Planning Weddings
9.) Officiating Weddings - Tying the knot...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2013-10-22T11:02:26ZRe: Forums: Grand Lodge: Grand Lodge Faction Goals Status ReportGloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pnf7?Grand-Lodge-Faction-Goals-Status-Report#132013-07-24T03:12:04Z2013-07-24T03:12:04Z<p>Killing Aspis is somewhere there in the small print. </p>
<p>I think the actual words are something like "Make the Aspis Consortium... SUFFER... kill them all... PAINFULLY... ya da ya da..."</p>Killing Aspis is somewhere there in the small print.
I think the actual words are something like "Make the Aspis Consortium... SUFFER... kill them all... PAINFULLY... ya da ya da..."Gloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)2013-07-24T03:12:04ZRe: Forums: Lantern Lodge: Life after Lantern Lodge (Where is everyone heading off to?) - (Spoilers!)Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pv51?Life-after-Lantern-Lodge#72013-06-17T06:47:52Z2013-06-17T06:47:52Z<p>No matter where the winds blow us, we all came from the same tree...</p>
<p>... in many places we may lay new roots, but we all shall bear the same fruits...</p>No matter where the winds blow us, we all came from the same tree...
... in many places we may lay new roots, but we all shall bear the same fruits...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2013-06-17T06:47:52ZForums: Lantern Lodge: Life after Lantern Lodge (Where is everyone heading off to?) - (Spoilers!)Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pv51?Life-after-Lantern-Lodge#12013-06-16T16:35:53Z2013-06-16T16:35:53Z<p>Sniff. Our dear Amara Li jie has turn our humble faction into a full-fledged Lodge of its own in Goka/Tien Sia! To think I live to see this come to pass! Sniff! •Turns to cry ahahahhhhh....!!!</p>
<p>So.... Sniff sniff, for those of us still running around the Inner Sea will need where is everyone heading off to? New factions? New parties? New ventures?</p>
<p>I myself, will be joining the Silver Crusade. </p>
<p>In this group of good men and women, I hope to lend my wisdom, find ways to help the needy, right the wrongs and most importantly! Find many more poor single souls that I could tied together in holy matrimony. Even as we forward the Society to ever protect and preserve knowledge for future generations.</p>
<p>So Speak up! Beloved fellow Lantern Lodgers! Spin new tales for those yet to come!
<br />
May our paths cross again and often!</p>
<p>Luck and Fortune!
<br />
Aunty Mei,
<br />
Pathfinder
<br />
Marriage Broker
<br />
Matchmaker
<br />
Wedding planner</p>Sniff. Our dear Amara Li jie has turn our humble faction into a full-fledged Lodge of its own in Goka/Tien Sia! To think I live to see this come to pass! Sniff! *Turns to cry ahahahhhhh....!!!
So.... Sniff sniff, for those of us still running around the Inner Sea will need where is everyone heading off to? New factions? New parties? New ventures?
I myself, will be joining the Silver Crusade.
In this group of good men and women, I hope to lend my wisdom, find ways to help the needy, right...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2013-06-16T16:35:53ZRe: Forums: Grand Lodge: Grand Lodge Faction Goals Status ReportGloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pnf7?Grand-Lodge-Faction-Goals-Status-Report#42013-04-12T20:25:26Z2013-04-12T20:25:26Z<p>Hey Boss, don't be so grim.</p>
<p>See what you did? You scared the shit out of everyone.</p>
<p>I'm only the 3rd guy to report in. The rest are off buying travel insurance.</p>
<p>Now for that crazy cult of Lisa... Lissala?
<br />
I say we nuke that cult from orbi.... I mean wipe out the cult, roots and all.... it is the only way to be sure no cranky runelord awakes up.</p>Hey Boss, don't be so grim.
See what you did? You scared the shit out of everyone.
I'm only the 3rd guy to report in. The rest are off buying travel insurance.
Now for that crazy cult of Lisa... Lissala?
I say we nuke that cult from orbi.... I mean wipe out the cult, roots and all.... it is the only way to be sure no cranky runelord awakes up.Gloin Greenleaf (alias of Secane)2013-04-12T20:25:26ZRe: Forums: Lantern Lodge: Lantern Lodge Faction Goals Status ReportAunty Mei (alias of Secane)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pnf8?Lantern-Lodge-Faction-Goals-Status-Report#112013-04-12T07:43:36Z2013-04-12T07:43:36Z<p>Ah Yooohhh!!! What is all THISSS? Why iss everryone HERE so SEeRIOUSs wan?!?!
<br />
Cheeerr UP lah!</p>
<p>Amara jie, just ask us all to work harder only whhat. Why you all so Garang???
<br />
You ALLL wanto ruuushh to Varisia so fast for what? </p>
<p>Don't all be so HEROo! Want to rush to tóu tāi, Isss it?</p>
<p>Màn Màn Lái. PLANNN first. Later you rush to go to Varisia, forgot this, forgot that! Ah yoooh! So shammeeeFUl!</p>
<p>Later, the other lodges, think we lantern lodge, all Kan Cheong Kings! Can only SAY, Can not DO!</p>
<p>Can not lei thisss... As long as we all make sure we DO our part, sure can WIN one.
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Cheer up hah!!! :)</p>Ah Yooohhh!!! What is all THISSS? Why iss everryone HERE so SEeRIOUSs wan?!?!
Cheeerr UP lah!
Amara jie, just ask us all to work harder only whhat. Why you all so Garang???
You ALLL wanto ruuushh to Varisia so fast for what?
Don't all be so HEROo! Want to rush to tóu tāi, Isss it?
Màn Màn Lái. PLANNN first. Later you rush to go to Varisia, forgot this, forgot that! Ah yoooh! So shammeeeFUl!
Later, the other lodges, think we lantern lodge, all Kan Cheong Kings! Can only SAY, Can not DO!
...Aunty Mei (alias of Secane)2013-04-12T07:43:36Z