paizo.com Favorited Posts by Savage Gracepaizo.com Favorited Posts by Savage Grace2016-07-15T10:00:00Z2016-07-15T10:00:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Q: Do you agree with the general direction Ryan set for the game?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2swtf&page=4?Q-Do-you-agree-with-the-general-direction#1652016-03-26T01:30:20Z2016-03-25T12:10:04Z<p>As far as being "blob friendly" that's something any sandbox faces.</p>
<p>I was just mentioning the hazard of balancing having things worth fight for with being careful not to overly reward the blob.</p>
<p>The game needs to reward people for recruitment and social cohesion while not handing the entire game to one big group.</p>
<p>I usually try to describe it as: numbers ought to give you overwhelming localized power where you focus, without giving you overwhelming global power.</p>
<p>It's good if the biggest powerbloc's numbers allow it to control a good hex near them. It's bad if it means the entire map is theirs to do with as they please. We don't face EITHER situation, at the moment, because there aren't things valuable enough to fight over, yet.</p>As far as being "blob friendly" that's something any sandbox faces.
I was just mentioning the hazard of balancing having things worth fight for with being careful not to overly reward the blob.
The game needs to reward people for recruitment and social cohesion while not handing the entire game to one big group.
I usually try to describe it as: numbers ought to give you overwhelming localized power where you focus, without giving you overwhelming global power.
It's good if the biggest...Savage Grace2016-03-25T12:10:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Everbloom Alliance TerritorySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1mq&page=7?Everbloom-Alliance-Territory#3042015-04-14T14:42:31Z2015-04-14T13:54:03Z<p>•If• we are seeing players leave because of the current war, my guess is that it is because they are lone wolf players who refuse to adapt.</p>
<p><b>GROUPS</b> of EBA players seem to be faring far better at holding on to their phat lewtz than EBA's lone wolves.</p>
<p>Adaptable players would group more, or do any of a long list of suggestions already listed in other threads.</p>
<p>I realize that in a low population game building big groups isn't easy, but PvP-ers have the same difficulty. If a PvE-er joined the largest powerbloc in the game, I'm not buying that it's harder for them to group up than for a smaller powerbloc of PvPers. </p>
<p>And if a player quits because they refuse to group up and be social in an MMO, then all I can say to them is...</p>
<p>buh bye.</p>*If* we are seeing players leave because of the current war, my guess is that it is because they are lone wolf players who refuse to adapt.
GROUPS of EBA players seem to be faring far better at holding on to their phat lewtz than EBA's lone wolves.
Adaptable players would group more, or do any of a long list of suggestions already listed in other threads.
I realize that in a low population game building big groups isn't easy, but PvP-ers have the same difficulty. If a PvE-er joined the...Savage Grace2015-04-14T13:54:03ZForums: Pathfinder Online: How can I become one of those poor innocent PvE-ers?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s4zq?How-can-I-become-one-of-those-poor-innocent#12015-04-07T22:48:15Z2015-04-07T22:16:50Z<p>My neighbors are willing to deem PvE to be a hostile act and try to punish entire settlements for someone's PvE.</p>
<p>Yet somehow their PvE-ers are all poor innocent "non-combatants" who shouldn't be touched.</p>
<p>How can •I• become an untouchable PvE-er?</p>My neighbors are willing to deem PvE to be a hostile act and try to punish entire settlements for someone's PvE.
Yet somehow their PvE-ers are all poor innocent "non-combatants" who shouldn't be touched.
How can *I* become an untouchable PvE-er?Savage Grace2015-04-07T22:16:50ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: PvP and the existing communitySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s4ij&page=4?PvP-and-the-existing-community#1712015-04-07T08:07:37Z2015-04-06T21:53:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Nihimon wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gaskon wrote:</div><blockquote> Its almost like T7V claimed they were going to try and keep non-combatants safe in an open PVP game, spent two years being called naive carebears on the forums, and are now accomplishing exactly what they said their goals were all along. </blockquote><p>That's part of it. The biggest part of it is creating a place where PvP-averse players can feel comfortable easing into PvP at their own pace. Yes, Golgotha is doing everything they can to ensure we fail at that by deliberately trying to focus as much of the "roughest form of PvP" (Lee's words) on those PvP-averse players to punish them for daring to join us. Yes, we're going to do everything we can to make Golgotha pay for that over the long term. They may feel like they don't need Reputation or Training or Support right now, while the whole server is kinda stuck in the middle of Tier 2, but I'm fairly confident that won't always be the case and they've got a snowball's chance in hell of ever knowing peace with Phaeros again.
<p></blockquote><p>Taking that tower was not about keeping non-combatants safe, it was about you punishing AGC for daring to do a T2 escalation that you want to monopolize simply for POWER.
<p>Aggrandizing power for yourselves is a totally valid way to play the game, but don't for a second pretend taking that tower was about protecting PvE-ers. That is just nonsense.</p>Nihimon wrote:Gaskon wrote: Its almost like T7V claimed they were going to try and keep non-combatants safe in an open PVP game, spent two years being called naive carebears on the forums, and are now accomplishing exactly what they said their goals were all along.
That's part of it. The biggest part of it is creating a place where PvP-averse players can feel comfortable easing into PvP at their own pace. Yes, Golgotha is doing everything they can to ensure we fail at that by deliberately...Savage Grace2015-04-06T21:53:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: I'm starting an archive of Benevolent Dictator quotesSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rygq?Im-starting-an-archive-of-Benevolent-Dictator#132015-04-06T17:29:16Z2015-04-05T17:11:18Z<p>"Go forth and murder everyone all over the map."</p>"Go forth and murder everyone all over the map."Savage Grace2015-04-05T17:11:18ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: PvP and the existing communitySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s4ij?PvP-and-the-existing-community#272015-04-06T17:37:03Z2015-04-03T16:31:04Z<p>Stop being reasonable. ;-P</p>
<p>Yeah, 10% might be enough, but Eve suggests that those who want to be free of PvP will be paying PvPers for the privilege to PvE in territory held by PvP-ers.</p>
<p>Who will be the first settlement to admit they have <b>renters</b>? :-)</p>Stop being reasonable. ;-P
Yeah, 10% might be enough, but Eve suggests that those who want to be free of PvP will be paying PvPers for the privilege to PvE in territory held by PvP-ers.
Who will be the first settlement to admit they have renters? :-)Savage Grace2015-04-03T16:31:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: PvP and the existing communitySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s4ij?PvP-and-the-existing-community#122015-04-02T23:14:47Z2015-04-02T23:12:10Z<p>@Duffy</p>
<p>I wanted to engage in informed crowdforging. I can't tell GW about things I don't try.</p>
<p>So I tried it, and it was irrelevant.</p>
<p>I can't speak for others, but some of what continues by others may just be training/practice, or a willingness to TRY it longer than I was willing to try it before giving up on it, or maybe they •like• their results compared to what they can gather or loot in PvE (which seems unlikely to me).</p>
<p>Banditry is like fishing. </p>
<p>Some people have more patience than me with wasting their time while waiting for that big fish... and some people just like to be fishing, regardless of their results.</p>
<p>Frankly, I don't blame people for continuing to try banditry compared to some aspects of the game. </p>
<p>If you compare it to staring at a 35 hour armor crafting bar... even chasing a gatherer carrying a single tansy leaf actually sounds like more fun. :-)</p>@Duffy
I wanted to engage in informed crowdforging. I can't tell GW about things I don't try.
So I tried it, and it was irrelevant.
I can't speak for others, but some of what continues by others may just be training/practice, or a willingness to TRY it longer than I was willing to try it before giving up on it, or maybe they *like* their results compared to what they can gather or loot in PvE (which seems unlikely to me).
Banditry is like fishing.
Some people have more patience than me...Savage Grace2015-04-02T23:12:10ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Anyone know what this does in game?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s4f0?Anyone-know-what-this-does-in-game#72015-04-02T04:02:17Z2015-04-01T22:23:24Z<p>It is the most powerful artifact ever created.</p>It is the most powerful artifact ever created.Savage Grace2015-04-01T22:23:24ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj&page=8?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#3622015-03-15T07:36:14Z2015-03-15T06:15:55Z<p>Saturday evening Savage Grace arrived at Keeper's Pass to surrender herself to stand trail for her crime in that area.</p>
<p>While checking out Golarion Mumble to see if it was already under heavy use, I bumped into Hoffman on comms and explained what was happening and Hoffman offered his services as my legal counsel. Frankly I wouldn't mind allowing him to be the judge/arbitrator, instead, if others agree.</p>
<p>I'd be interested in hearing the name of my accuser as well as the charge.</p>
<p>Before giving up on waiting for K.P. leadership to respond to my repeated surrenders on general there were over a dozen people from at least 3 settlements on Golarion Mumble's Keeper's Pass channel who seemed interested in hearing how justice is done in Keeper's Pass, as well as 13 folks at the bank who may or may not have been around for the same reason.</p>Saturday evening Savage Grace arrived at Keeper's Pass to surrender herself to stand trail for her crime in that area.
While checking out Golarion Mumble to see if it was already under heavy use, I bumped into Hoffman on comms and explained what was happening and Hoffman offered his services as my legal counsel. Frankly I wouldn't mind allowing him to be the judge/arbitrator, instead, if others agree.
I'd be interested in hearing the name of my accuser as well as the charge.
Before giving...Savage Grace2015-03-15T06:15:55ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Melee Attack Range ValidationSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s25e?Melee-Attack-Range-Validation#52015-03-11T17:14:23Z2015-03-10T17:22:20Z<p>I tried using a spear, once, but it broke my bow string.</p>I tried using a spear, once, but it broke my bow string.Savage Grace2015-03-10T17:22:20ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Honour in the River Kingdoms – OOC threadSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s20a&page=2?Honour-in-the-River-Kingdoms-OOC-thread#562015-03-10T12:17:24Z2015-03-10T11:23:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Black Silver of The Veiled, T7V wrote:</div><blockquote><p> If I come across a husk of someone I don't know in the wild. Guess what, I'm going to check to see if they have anything worth looting. But then, I'm playing a rogue.</p>
<p>I would probably check the husk even if it was someone I did know but might refrain from taking anything just for curiosity sake if I am on good terms with them. </blockquote><p>The problem with "looking" at the contents of a husk is it causes the "gathering" animation.
<p>So someone viewing you might think you're also taking from the husk as that has no additional animation.</p>
<p>Not a problem, if you don't care what people think, but with friends it is best to just not look. If they had a nice item and can't find it after seeing you do the "gathering" animation... well...</p>
<p>We all know there's a 25% chance each item gets destroyed, which leaves another 75% chance of new-found distrust.</p>Black Silver of The Veiled, T7V wrote:If I come across a husk of someone I don't know in the wild. Guess what, I'm going to check to see if they have anything worth looting. But then, I'm playing a rogue.
I would probably check the husk even if it was someone I did know but might refrain from taking anything just for curiosity sake if I am on good terms with them.
The problem with "looking" at the contents of a husk is it causes the "gathering" animation. So someone viewing you might think...Savage Grace2015-03-10T11:23:27ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Is Golgotha evil enough?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1on?Is-Golgotha-evil-enough#232015-03-06T23:22:39Z2015-03-06T01:56:10Z<p>Do you know what a really evil settlement would do?</p>
<p>They'd claim more than their share of the map. THEN they'd operate outside that territory, perhaps even that same night, perhaps using excuses like penalizing people for violating borders that hadn't even been drawn yet, much less agreed on. That would be pretty evil.</p>Do you know what a really evil settlement would do?
They'd claim more than their share of the map. THEN they'd operate outside that territory, perhaps even that same night, perhaps using excuses like penalizing people for violating borders that hadn't even been drawn yet, much less agreed on. That would be pretty evil.Savage Grace2015-03-06T01:56:10ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Is Golgotha evil enough?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1on?Is-Golgotha-evil-enough#202015-03-06T01:12:55Z2015-03-06T01:12:38Z<p>Lingerie pillowfights are a settlement exclusive emote that I might be able to talk Golgothans into paying for (per last night's dev fireside chat).</p>Lingerie pillowfights are a settlement exclusive emote that I might be able to talk Golgothans into paying for (per last night's dev fireside chat).Savage Grace2015-03-06T01:12:38ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Is Golgotha evil enough?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1on?Is-Golgotha-evil-enough#172015-03-06T01:13:04Z2015-03-06T01:05:33Z<p>Any settlement that encourages 2 blondes to engage in a lingerie pillow-fight for the honor of going off to fight an adventure, and allows the pillow-fight to go on for their own amusement long after the adventure opportunity has ended, has at least a nominal call to the description "evil". :-)</p>Any settlement that encourages 2 blondes to engage in a lingerie pillow-fight for the honor of going off to fight an adventure, and allows the pillow-fight to go on for their own amusement long after the adventure opportunity has ended, has at least a nominal call to the description "evil". :-)Savage Grace2015-03-06T01:05:33ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Is Golgotha evil enough?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1on?Is-Golgotha-evil-enough#92015-03-06T01:07:44Z2015-03-05T23:42:19Z<p>Apparently we have a lot to learn from the EBA.</p>
<p>There really seems to be only 1 option for Golgotha...</p>
<p>Switch to Good alignment and show people how its done. :-)</p>
<p>Dialing up the evil is problematic because it can get us closer and closer to the behavior Lisa and Ryan oppose.</p>
<p>If CCP ran this game I can think of numerous ways to dial it up. With Paizo involved... not so much.</p>
<p>We may just have to see what the game mechanics tell us to do.</p>Apparently we have a lot to learn from the EBA.
There really seems to be only 1 option for Golgotha...
Switch to Good alignment and show people how its done. :-)
Dialing up the evil is problematic because it can get us closer and closer to the behavior Lisa and Ryan oppose.
If CCP ran this game I can think of numerous ways to dial it up. With Paizo involved... not so much.
We may just have to see what the game mechanics tell us to do.Savage Grace2015-03-05T23:42:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Empire of Xeilias territorySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1nb?Empire-of-Xeilias-territory#72015-03-05T18:52:48Z2015-03-05T18:51:05Z<p>They're all pikers compared to Doctor Tyson.</p>They're all pikers compared to Doctor Tyson.Savage Grace2015-03-05T18:51:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj&page=8?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#3612015-03-15T11:12:46Z2015-03-03T19:43:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Saiph wrote:</div><blockquote> One should radiate etiquette before professing it. </blockquote><p><b>•I• can log into my account.</b> That other guy... not so much.Saiph wrote:One should radiate etiquette before professing it.
*I* can log into my account. That other guy... not so much.Savage Grace2015-03-03T19:43:39ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: The Tragedy of Blackwood GladeSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0zn&page=3?The-Tragedy-of-Blackwood-Glade#1372015-03-03T16:42:35Z2015-03-03T15:23:13Z<p>Nonsense, we're all just Thod alts, roleplaying villains and victims.</p>Nonsense, we're all just Thod alts, roleplaying villains and victims.Savage Grace2015-03-03T15:23:13ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj&page=7?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#3342015-03-01T19:13:51Z2015-03-01T18:40:12Z<p>I don't think anyone on our side realized the REAL reason why the towers remained unclaimed. Each day they were supposed to be gone the next day, so not bothering to claim them didn't set off any alarm bells.</p>
<p>I'm not sure anyone knew we were hitting the members of one specific small settlement. It might be totally legitimate behavior to target one, but I saw no indication on comms that we knew that was what they were.</p>
<p>I'd bet large sums of money that none of us knew that those guys only played on Wednesdays (if that is indeed factual). An hour of banditry on folks who've been playing 60 days is a lot different than on folks who've played 8 days. Once again, it might be totally legitimate behavior to target casuals, but I heard no indication on comms that anyone knew about that (if it is indeed factual).</p>
<p>And not knowing all that, when a few members of the largest powerbloc have a meltdown over (what seemed at the time) incidental losses, it was easily dismissed at first.</p>
<p>We're all learning, and as has been seen before, the fact that the game segregates us and makes so much of what the other guys are doing a mystery or a secret can needlessly complicate some situations.</p>I don't think anyone on our side realized the REAL reason why the towers remained unclaimed. Each day they were supposed to be gone the next day, so not bothering to claim them didn't set off any alarm bells.
I'm not sure anyone knew we were hitting the members of one specific small settlement. It might be totally legitimate behavior to target one, but I saw no indication on comms that we knew that was what they were.
I'd bet large sums of money that none of us knew that those guys only...Savage Grace2015-03-01T18:40:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: The Tragedy of Blackwood GladeMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0zn?The-Tragedy-of-Blackwood-Glade#172015-02-28T15:26:26Z2015-02-28T15:05:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">DeciusBrutus wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Midnight of Golgotha wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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I want to be able to craft, gather, carry recipe drops, etc. without <b>unreasonable</b> risks. You can't get far in this game without doing that stuff.</p>
<p></blockquote>Can you be more specific about what the necessary and sufficient conditions are for an unreasonable risk? </blockquote><p>It is subjective for each person, obviously. Thus the need for whole INFORMED crowdforging thing, tempered of course by the devs' intentions and the way the game is/was marketed.
<p>I'll offer some SUBJECTIVE personal views...</p>
<p>To offer you an Eve-online example, I didn't like 4 cheap destroyers being able to kill a far more expensive Mackinaw before the Concorde "guards" could stop them.</p>
<p>In this game I wouldn't want to see a throwaway 1,000 point character two shotting my tier 2 equipped character. (I don't think that can happen now, but I also don't imagine myself crowdforging to get such a gank-friendly world).</p>
<p>I completely agree with the crafters who want to be able to see the mini-map while having the crafting window open.</p>
<p>I didn't start crafting until the devs improved the Thornguard behavior to fire on an attacker flag (and I'd •still• like to see the mini-map).</p>DeciusBrutus wrote:Midnight of Golgotha wrote:
I want to be able to craft, gather, carry recipe drops, etc. without unreasonable risks. You can't get far in this game without doing that stuff.
Can you be more specific about what the necessary and sufficient conditions are for an unreasonable risk? It is subjective for each person, obviously. Thus the need for whole INFORMED crowdforging thing, tempered of course by the devs' intentions and the way the game is/was marketed. I'll offer some...Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-02-28T15:05:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: The Tragedy of Blackwood GladeMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0zn?The-Tragedy-of-Blackwood-Glade#152015-03-02T03:37:32Z2015-02-28T14:35:31Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Proxima Sin of Brighthaven wrote:</div><blockquote> People who PvP are competitive and want to see clear evidence they won. Everywhere. Even the forums. You can't put much import in these threads because at least half of every post is tactical verbal maneuvering, feints, and pushes to disable some ideas and and advance their own so they can win that too. </blockquote><p>While there's some truth to that, there's also some fallacy to it.
<p>There are times when you'll see legitimate honest crowdforging at the expense of PvP. </p>
<p>I have 2 crafters. I have a combat character that has killed a hundred (closer to a thousand) times more mobs than player characters. THIS character is a gatherer with far far more xp put into gathering than combat skills.</p>
<p>I want to be able to craft, gather, carry recipe drops, etc. without <b>unreasonable</b> risks. You can't get far in this game without doing that stuff.</p>
<p>I'll remind you, that it was Golgothan PvPers who invited the devs on the Hammerfall raid to show them how worthless Thornguards were. If you like Thornguards who fire on an attacker flag... thank Golgothan PvPers.</p>
<p>It is likely I and my mates accept risk (and even losses) more easily than those who have habitually avoided PvP, but we really are looking for the right balance of risk versus reward for the game in general.</p>
<p>And the low/no risk side has plenty of advocates. I can only hope people engage in INFORMED crowdforging rather than just what they read about in the forums. Especially because there are so few PvP voices to read.</p>Proxima Sin of Brighthaven wrote:People who PvP are competitive and want to see clear evidence they won. Everywhere. Even the forums. You can't put much import in these threads because at least half of every post is tactical verbal maneuvering, feints, and pushes to disable some ideas and and advance their own so they can win that too.
While there's some truth to that, there's also some fallacy to it. There are times when you'll see legitimate honest crowdforging at the expense of PvP.
I...Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-02-28T14:35:31ZForums: Pathfinder Online: A PFO-University forum presentation: Mobile Nodes: How to avoid becoming one.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0yi?A-PFOUniversity-forum-presentation-Mobile#12015-03-10T13:12:16Z2015-02-27T18:22:19Z<p>10 days ago I offered to present this course on Mumble for Pathfinder Online University but while trying to schedule it PvP livened up for a couple of days and I suggested putting it on hold because I was too busy doing combat to chat about combat.</p>
<p>The PFO-U rep I spoke to said that made the course even more germane and needed, and frankly I agree, but we’ll have to settle on doing this as a Paizo thread, and hopefully LOTS of experienced people can offer answers to any questions, as will I.</p>
<p><b>Mobile Nodes: How to avoid becoming one.</b></p>
<p>Presented by Midnight.</p>
<p>The instructor is a self described enthusiastic but mediocre PvPer who has Tier 2 in all 4 gathering skills and is pushing two gathering skills to tier 3.</p>
<p>This class excludes Tower oriented combat but may offer ideas you’ll use there.</p>
<p>Short lecture. There will likely be more questions and answers than lecture.</p>
<p>1) Get out there and do offensive PvP. It will make you a better defender as you see the various ways people defeat/escape you. Seeing what they do wrong or right when you’re not carrying anything important may make the difference when YOU are a defender and, thus, help you get those valuable resources, recipe drops, etc. to YOUR bank. You can practice offense in hexes with an open PvP window without reputation loss. If you find an often contested hex like a coal hex (where there aren’t many other coal hexes) you also aren’t likely to shock anyone and cause hurt feelings.</p>
<p>2) Stealth is your friend, not for hiding, but for cutting targeting range. Even turning it on for a few seconds can break someone’s targeting.</p>
<p>3) Speed and other buffs are your friends. Don’t forget you have them. You may not even need to fight. The Function One button will shift your focus to yourself in case the enemy attacks are causing you to auto-target them.</p>
<p>4) Don’t advertise you are carrying anything. Avoid encumbrance. Slow targets are juicy targets.</p>
<p>5) Be aware of PvP windows in hexes you operate in, as well as in hexes you might escape to. Be aware of the stereotypical demeanor of the folks in each neighborhood, unless scouting that is why are heading there in the first place.</p>
<p>6) The 60 second attacker flag. Your attacker might want to keep renewing it BEFORE it expires. Don't let him do that in a hex without an open PvP window. You want him to take the rep penalty he'll get if he attacks again after the attacker flag expires. The attacker flag can even remain valid moving from a hex with an open PvP window as you both move to an adjacent hex with a closed PvP window.</p>
<p>These are just very simple points, but hopefully they’ll lead to useful and educational discussions. </p>
<p>and to quote my 7th grade algebra teacher whenever he finished a lecture...</p>
<p>Questions? Comments? Criticisms? Cries of Anguish?</p>10 days ago I offered to present this course on Mumble for Pathfinder Online University but while trying to schedule it PvP livened up for a couple of days and I suggested putting it on hold because I was too busy doing combat to chat about combat.
The PFO-U rep I spoke to said that made the course even more germane and needed, and frankly I agree, but we’ll have to settle on doing this as a Paizo thread, and hopefully LOTS of experienced people can offer answers to any questions, as will
...Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-02-27T18:22:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj&page=5?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#2192015-02-27T11:52:29Z2015-02-27T02:08:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Forencith of Phaeros, TSV wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Savage Grace wrote:</div><blockquote>How do we do that without turning the I quit threats into an I win button? Serious question.</blockquote><p>The issue I have with your logic is that it assumes anyone non-aggressively surviving is beating you in some form of contest. It is not even a consensual us or them fight, it is you saying you want to kill them and either you win by doing so, or you loose by not...which by default means they win because you lost. In that case, your position is as meaningful as PvE, with your target being a simple two dimensional NPC worthy of only one thing, simply because they are not you. I am not sure how, in this case, you can deny the victim of your logic the gripe that they felt the interaction was not meaningful.
<p>Or maybe I got it wrong, how exactly does a non-aggressor you have decided not to kill - win that contest?</p>
<p></blockquote><p>I really don't care if someone escapes or I am thwarted in-game, especially away from my home territory. I'm serious when I tell you that PvP (right now) is a chore that I do because the vast majority of the community won't do it. If most of you weren't crafting, I'd feel the need to do crafting.
<p>I •am• enthusiastic about where PvP will be someday, but today's PvP... I do way more of it than I'd like, and if I read of 200 other players picking up the slack every week, I'll happily do the PvE things that will serve my characters better in the long run.</p>
<p><b>The I Win button I'm talking about is the CROWDFORGING I Win button.</b></p>
<p>I don't want a threat to quit to have a veto power over the rest of us. I'd say the same thing if a PvPer tries to use it.</p>
<p>If someone (PvP or PvE centric) says they're waiting for the game to be more like the devs marketed it, that's completely fair thing and we should welcome them when they return. But any situation that causes an I quit threat to grant people an imperviousness not intended or marketed by the devs would be just as bad as handing the game to some Burn Jita style PvPer who threatens to quit if he can't gankfest everyone they see 24/7.</p>
<p>The people STAYING AND PAYING need to be the ones listened to, and the little-to-no PvP interest crowd will still be VERY WELL represented.</p>Forencith of Phaeros, TSV wrote:Savage Grace wrote:How do we do that without turning the I quit threats into an I win button? Serious question.
The issue I have with your logic is that it assumes anyone non-aggressively surviving is beating you in some form of contest. It is not even a consensual us or them fight, it is you saying you want to kill them and either you win by doing so, or you loose by not...which by default means they win because you lost. In that case, your position is as...Savage Grace2015-02-27T02:08:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj&page=3?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#1062015-02-26T20:14:26Z2015-02-26T20:08:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">KotC - Erian El'ranelen wrote:</div><blockquote> If it were introduced in Open Enrollment, how could it be crowdforged? I'd rather work on rough edges now, with a limited group of people, rather than when the hoped for thousands pour in. We need to establish a culture now of how this will function for PFO, a culture that all major power blocs support, so that we can infuse this culture into players as they join. Any economy that forms now, in an environment with no PvP, would create an unfeasible model when PvP is later switched on because we've then trained all the players that gathering, caravans, etc. are all safe. That would in turn lead to mass-revolt from those that had grown to expect the safety. </blockquote><p>Can you imagine 100,000 players discovering that Thornguards didn't fire on people with attacker flags?
<p>At the risk of parroting you... PvP •HAS• to be crowdforged now while there are few of us. </p>
<p>The world is much safer now because Golgotha invited the GMs along on the Hammerfall raid to see how useless Thornguards were.</p>
<p>Given the current community, the results of crowdforging are likely to remain very friendly to self styled non-PvP-ers. Their lives are already safer and more serene than the day EE launched.</p>KotC - Erian El'ranelen wrote:If it were introduced in Open Enrollment, how could it be crowdforged? I'd rather work on rough edges now, with a limited group of people, rather than when the hoped for thousands pour in. We need to establish a culture now of how this will function for PFO, a culture that all major power blocs support, so that we can infuse this culture into players as they join. Any economy that forms now, in an environment with no PvP, would create an unfeasible model when PvP...Savage Grace2015-02-26T20:08:52ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Keeper's Pass - Bandits and Ne'er-do-WellsSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s0pj?Keepers-Pass-Bandits-and-NeerdoWells#502015-02-26T18:19:50Z2015-02-26T14:37:13Z<p>In Eve, because we get combat logs that tell us who killed us, it is common to ask and answer questions like what could I do better.</p>
<p>The lack of logs and the crazy long names some of us have make that harder, and so we get forum discussions, instead.</p>In Eve, because we get combat logs that tell us who killed us, it is common to ask and answer questions like what could I do better.
The lack of logs and the crazy long names some of us have make that harder, and so we get forum discussions, instead.Savage Grace2015-02-26T14:37:13ZForums: Pathfinder Online: So I watched a meltdown on another forum todaySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s020?So-I-watched-a-meltdown-on-another-forum-today#12015-05-28T01:36:26Z2015-02-20T01:01:01Z<p>and reminded myself that I don't want to be that guy.</p>
<p>In examining what he did to get to that point I found all kinds of behaviors that we absolutely do not share (which of course comforts me).</p>
<p>But I have to admit, that we likely share one trait at times, and that might be frustration. Frustration is not your friend on forums (or any form of communication).</p>
<p>I'm going to <b>try</b> and do a better job of accepting the current state of the game and the community at whichever state I find them in.</p>
<p>I'm probably just talking to myself, but I thought I'd share, in case it helps anyone else.</p>
<p>I'll still be crowdforging, and posting, but if you notice some changes, Yay for me.</p>and reminded myself that I don't want to be that guy.
In examining what he did to get to that point I found all kinds of behaviors that we absolutely do not share (which of course comforts me).
But I have to admit, that we likely share one trait at times, and that might be frustration. Frustration is not your friend on forums (or any form of communication).
I'm going to try and do a better job of accepting the current state of the game and the community at whichever state I find them in.
...Savage Grace2015-02-20T01:01:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Silver for nothing and your recipes/spells/maneuvers for freeSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rz83&page=2?Silver-for-nothing-and-your#562015-02-12T20:40:12Z2015-02-12T20:29:51Z<p>Just to throw some water on my own concerns...</p>
<p>(actually, just in the interest of fairness)</p>
<p>The reply (that I just read) to my bug report was very reassuring and alleviates much of my concern. If they're not freaked out, I'm not going to be freaked out.</p>Just to throw some water on my own concerns...
(actually, just in the interest of fairness)
The reply (that I just read) to my bug report was very reassuring and alleviates much of my concern. If they're not freaked out, I'm not going to be freaked out.Savage Grace2015-02-12T20:29:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Where everybody knows your nameSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rykq?Where-everybody-knows-your-name#52015-02-07T01:12:47Z2015-02-07T00:59:24Z<p>LOL, I can't even transcribe 9 letters correctly from one window to another.</p>
<p>I'm going to blame it on ordering Beezle Juice 3 times. :-)</p>LOL, I can't even transcribe 9 letters correctly from one window to another.
I'm going to blame it on ordering Beezle Juice 3 times. :-)Savage Grace2015-02-07T00:59:24ZForums: Pathfinder Online: Where everybody knows your nameSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rykq?Where-everybody-knows-your-name#12015-02-06T23:45:23Z2015-02-06T23:00:37Z<p><b>Beezlepub.</b></p>
<p>I'm giving Guurzak credit for naming Golgotha's tavern, pending further research.</p>Beezlepub.
I'm giving Guurzak credit for naming Golgotha's tavern, pending further research.Savage Grace2015-02-06T23:00:37ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: My biggest disappointment, so far...Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rydw?My-biggest-disappointment-so-far#422015-02-06T22:36:36Z2015-02-06T22:32:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kobold Cleaver wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Savage Grace wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gaskon wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Savage Grace wrote:</div><blockquote><p>I picture PvPers next year just being handed whatever gear they can use, and having it replaced by GRPs (Gear Replacement Programs).</p>
<p>Crafting will have little meaning to them because everything is free, just for showing up and PvPing. </blockquote>The reverse of this, is that PVPers are just peons that kill what they are told, when they are told to, otherwise the gear spigot gets stuff off and they become useless. </blockquote><p>"Mongo just pawn in great chessboard of life."
<p>-Blazing Saddles </blockquote><p>It's actually "game of life". That's key because it makes the line a reference to a more modern board game than chess. ;P
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Savage Grace wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>And the rich settlement leaders will be the ones who strike the best balance. But I'm betting you see leaders be MUCH richer than crafters.
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</blockquote>If the settlement leaders decide to collaborate on setting a "taxation standard", I'll be the first to sign up for la revolucion gloriosa. </blockquote><p>Dude, you're going to be revolutionary zero no matter WHAT the issue. ;-)
<p>Hey Kobold Cleaver, what are •you• rebelling against?</p>
<p>KC: Whatta ya got?</p>Kobold Cleaver wrote:Savage Grace wrote: Gaskon wrote: Savage Grace wrote:I picture PvPers next year just being handed whatever gear they can use, and having it replaced by GRPs (Gear Replacement Programs).
Crafting will have little meaning to them because everything is free, just for showing up and PvPing.
The reverse of this, is that PVPers are just peons that kill what they are told, when they are told to, otherwise the gear spigot gets stuff off and they become useless. "Mongo just pawn...Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-02-06T22:32:39ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: My biggest disappointment, so far...Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rydw?My-biggest-disappointment-so-far#292015-02-09T14:55:17Z2015-02-06T19:01:45Z<p>@Tyncale</p>
<p>You make excellent points.</p>
<p>And having been in a super secret fleet of freighters plus jumping titan moving from a low sec system bordering high sec to the least accessible reaches of null-sec, umm yeah...</p>
<p>caravans could definitely be the <b>white knuckles sweating like mad please don't let me have this heart attack until we're through</b> part of this game.</p>@Tyncale
You make excellent points.
And having been in a super secret fleet of freighters plus jumping titan moving from a low sec system bordering high sec to the least accessible reaches of null-sec, umm yeah...
caravans could definitely be the white knuckles sweating like mad please don't let me have this heart attack until we're through part of this game.Savage Grace2015-02-06T19:01:45ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Who is TEO at war with?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rybc&page=3?Who-is-TEO-at-war-with#1092015-02-06T23:29:00Z2015-02-06T13:27:47Z<p>I got excited at the title, but after reading the thread...</p>
<p>it is with great regret that I inform you that no popcorn was harmed.</p>I got excited at the title, but after reading the thread...
it is with great regret that I inform you that no popcorn was harmed.Savage Grace2015-02-06T13:27:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: My biggest disappointment, so far...Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rydw?My-biggest-disappointment-so-far#62015-02-05T23:54:29Z2015-02-05T19:09:51Z<p>It will help when the PvP is more compelling and meaningful.</p>It will help when the PvP is more compelling and meaningful.Savage Grace2015-02-05T19:09:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Applying a "state"and then capitalizing on it: "Dazed". Anybody doing this?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ry4p?Applying-a-stateand-then-capitalizing-on-it#342015-02-04T01:11:49Z2015-02-04T00:51:15Z<p>Players are way too fragile to withstand focused fire.</p>
<p>I sort of favor people being able to flee before they die, especially in situations where they might leave juicy husks.</p>
<p>Though it is becoming obvious, as more states get enabled, that we'll be seeing cc used for tackle and people standing around helpless to the onslaught.</p>
<p>Imagine your group of 6 armored fighters charge into a herd of 15 gatherers. The ones who first get tackled by a cc effect will get left behind by the fleeing herd and will be easy to focus fire on.</p>Players are way too fragile to withstand focused fire.
I sort of favor people being able to flee before they die, especially in situations where they might leave juicy husks.
Though it is becoming obvious, as more states get enabled, that we'll be seeing cc used for tackle and people standing around helpless to the onslaught.
Imagine your group of 6 armored fighters charge into a herd of 15 gatherers. The ones who first get tackled by a cc effect will get left behind by the fleeing herd...Savage Grace2015-02-04T00:51:15ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Applying a "state"and then capitalizing on it: "Dazed". Anybody doing this?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ry4p?Applying-a-stateand-then-capitalizing-on-it#312015-02-04T01:11:11Z2015-02-04T00:37:03Z<p>Golgotha has no secret to targeting specific players for focused fire.</p>
<p>I worry that should we ever get an assist command, that focused fire will be TOO effective. I'm not a big fan of alpha unless I'm immune. :-)</p>Golgotha has no secret to targeting specific players for focused fire.
I worry that should we ever get an assist command, that focused fire will be TOO effective. I'm not a big fan of alpha unless I'm immune. :-)Savage Grace2015-02-04T00:37:03ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Gatherers should get the same GROUP bonus that PvE gets.Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxzn?Gatherers-should-get-the-same-GROUP-bonus#442015-02-04T00:27:22Z2015-02-03T23:07:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TEO Pino wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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<p>Gathering is already 100% loot for zero risk; it should not be handled in the same manner as PVE, because it does not use the same loot mechanics at all.</p>
<p>Honestly, I believe your bonus idea may be designed to enable zero-gathering-skill PVP builds to gather more efficiently, (perhaps by grouping with one high skill character)
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</blockquote><p>ZERO RISK? Ask Grumpf about how little risk there is in mining coal. LOL
<p>My mates call my fellow gatherers "mobile nodes" for a reason. Though the risk may be completely dependent on which way the devs are swinging the rep pendulum that week. Maybe next week it will feel like zero risk, we'll see. I and my friends have certainly been making sure it wasn't risk free for people last week, though. </p>
<p>As to your last paragraph... I'm a tier 2 gatherer and way too far away from tier 3 to benefit from a boost up the table. I was just imagining MORE resources (and thus more efficient use of my time), not BETTER resources when I first posted this.</p>
<p>And one can argue that groups that are hunting face LESS risk (from mobs) than solo hunters, so why would they deserve a bonus... except for the same reason ANY group bonuses exist... <b>to encourage social interactions</b>.</p>
<p>I don't think the group bonus is about RISK at all, though the devs might correct me on that.</p>
<p>The bonus would also make up for the fact that gatherers can't help but get in each other's way, so the bonus offsets the temptation to try and have the hex entirely to yourself.</p>TEO Pino wrote:Gathering is already 100% loot for zero risk; it should not be handled in the same manner as PVE, because it does not use the same loot mechanics at all.
Honestly, I believe your bonus idea may be designed to enable zero-gathering-skill PVP builds to gather more efficiently, (perhaps by grouping with one high skill character)
ZERO RISK? Ask Grumpf about how little risk there is in mining coal. LOL My mates call my fellow gatherers "mobile nodes" for a reason. Though the risk...Savage Grace2015-02-03T23:07:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Request for Update: The Future of GatherersMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ry2h?Request-for-Update-The-Future-of-Gatherers#52015-02-03T15:03:23Z2015-02-03T01:48:01Z<p>My gatherer is still further along in her career than my Necromancer.</p>My gatherer is still further along in her career than my Necromancer.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-02-03T01:48:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Gatherers should get the same GROUP bonus that PvE gets.Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxzn?Gatherers-should-get-the-same-GROUP-bonus#212015-02-02T18:57:26Z2015-02-02T17:22:06Z<p>My understanding is the game looks at which character got the killing shot. If that character is in a group, for loot purposes the game behaves as if the GROUP got the killing shot (even if the other 5 members were busy building a dwarf pyramid). </p>
<p>Then it applies whatever math others described above to reward loot.</p>
<p>Darn, now I'm going to have to test this to be sure it's true.</p>
<p><i>Hey Guurzak, could you handle that Mordant Spire pack while the rest of your group builds a pyramid? Thanks buddy.</i></p>My understanding is the game looks at which character got the killing shot. If that character is in a group, for loot purposes the game behaves as if the GROUP got the killing shot (even if the other 5 members were busy building a dwarf pyramid).
Then it applies whatever math others described above to reward loot.
Darn, now I'm going to have to test this to be sure it's true.
Hey Guurzak, could you handle that Mordant Spire pack while the rest of your group builds a pyramid? Thanks buddy.Savage Grace2015-02-02T17:22:06ZForums: Pathfinder Online: Gatherers should get the same GROUP bonus that PvE gets.Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxzn?Gatherers-should-get-the-same-GROUP-bonus#12015-02-02T16:08:26Z2015-02-02T16:03:36Z<p>Title says it all.</p>Title says it all.Savage Grace2015-02-02T16:03:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Shared Banking/Trading within Characters on Same AccountSavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxwe?Shared-Banking-Trading-within-Characters-on#92015-02-01T18:27:52Z2015-02-01T18:19:12Z<p>Smallholdings.</p>Smallholdings.Savage Grace2015-02-01T18:19:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Things to help invigorate economySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxdh?Things-to-help-invigorate-economy#182015-01-29T18:19:37Z2015-01-29T17:12:36Z<p>My guess is most of the Destiny's Twins are in the game already.</p>
<p>Destiny's Twins were horrible for the economy because nearly every DT account has a crafter.</p>
<p>As more and more players come in without Destiny's Twin you will see a more vibrant economy with more customers for the glut of crafters we currently have.</p>
<p>That is actually what is wrong with the economy... Too many crafters because hundreds of players didn't have to choose between adventuring and crafting.</p>
<p>Time (and not offering anymore DTs) is the only thing that will cure this.</p>My guess is most of the Destiny's Twins are in the game already.
Destiny's Twins were horrible for the economy because nearly every DT account has a crafter.
As more and more players come in without Destiny's Twin you will see a more vibrant economy with more customers for the glut of crafters we currently have.
That is actually what is wrong with the economy... Too many crafters because hundreds of players didn't have to choose between adventuring and crafting.
Time (and not offering...Savage Grace2015-01-29T17:12:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Things to help invigorate economySavage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxdh?Things-to-help-invigorate-economy#62015-01-29T00:14:17Z2015-01-29T00:05:43Z<p>In order to allow players to handle Tier X monsters, loot tables have to include at least a few loots of Tier X+1. I imagine that Guurzak's recipe dropped from a Tier 2 monster, so I think things are working reasonably.</p>
<p>And for anyone who wants to remind me that there are some basic free recipes that a crafter gets at each tier... here's your club. :-)</p>In order to allow players to handle Tier X monsters, loot tables have to include at least a few loots of Tier X+1. I imagine that Guurzak's recipe dropped from a Tier 2 monster, so I think things are working reasonably.
And for anyone who wants to remind me that there are some basic free recipes that a crafter gets at each tier... here's your club. :-)Savage Grace2015-01-29T00:05:43ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Free Highlanders respond to our chaotic neighbors.Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxcb?Free-Highlanders-respond-to-our-chaotic#152015-01-28T22:15:08Z2015-01-28T20:50:23Z<p>We should simply pick a tower and do KING OF THE HILL.</p>
<p>If we simply declare it to be the most important thing in the game, it will be. </p>
<p>Now comes the intrigue when people propose their <b>neighbor's</b> tower as the one we'll all fight over. ;-)</p>We should simply pick a tower and do KING OF THE HILL.
If we simply declare it to be the most important thing in the game, it will be.
Now comes the intrigue when people propose their neighbor's tower as the one we'll all fight over. ;-)Savage Grace2015-01-28T20:50:23ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: How long will it take new players be able to catch up to veterans?Savage Gracehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rxbh?How-long-will-it-take-new-players-be-able-to#252015-01-28T18:11:56Z2015-01-28T16:33:06Z<p>Darn, I'm going to have to exercise more and eat better if I want to max my characters. ;-)</p>Darn, I'm going to have to exercise more and eat better if I want to max my characters. ;-)Savage Grace2015-01-28T16:33:06ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Forum MoveMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rx4h?Forum-Move#32015-01-27T04:29:27Z2015-01-27T00:30:35Z<p>I've shifted to putting things I want DEVS to look at in the GW forums.</p>
<p>Things I want to crowdforge before involving devs I post here because this is still where the people are.</p>I've shifted to putting things I want DEVS to look at in the GW forums.
Things I want to crowdforge before involving devs I post here because this is still where the people are.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-01-27T00:30:35ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Character build/slot suggestions for non-combat gatherer types.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rx3u?Character-buildslot-suggestions-for-noncombat#132015-01-27T16:14:55Z2015-01-26T23:29:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Elias Quint wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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<p>This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen. </blockquote><p>There's a main screen? ;-)Elias Quint wrote:This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.
There's a main screen? ;-)Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-01-26T23:29:41ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Corpse-camping.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rw4n?Corpsecamping#412015-01-24T20:35:06Z2015-01-23T22:37:40Z<p>Teabagging a backpack will be dissatisfying to exactly the people that Ryan and Lisa can live without.</p>
<p>I say: well done.</p>Teabagging a backpack will be dissatisfying to exactly the people that Ryan and Lisa can live without.
I say: well done.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-01-23T22:37:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Resource locations changedMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rwqk?Resource-locations-changed#92015-01-24T09:00:26Z2015-01-23T17:26:21Z<p><b>You can do anything you set your mind to Guurzak.</p>
<p>I believe in you.</b></p>
<p><i>backs away while whistling nonchalantly</i></p>You can do anything you set your mind to Guurzak.
I believe in you.
backs away while whistling nonchalantlyMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-01-23T17:26:21ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Resource locations changedMidnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rwqk?Resource-locations-changed#72015-01-23T17:02:25Z2015-01-23T17:00:48Z<p>There are SIGNIFICANT changes in resource nodes and gathering results in every hex I explored yesterday.</p>
<p>I won't to go into specifics, though.</p>
<p>I'll just say that nearly everything you knew about gathering on Wednesday is now false.</p>There are SIGNIFICANT changes in resource nodes and gathering results in every hex I explored yesterday.
I won't to go into specifics, though.
I'll just say that nearly everything you knew about gathering on Wednesday is now false.Midnight of Golgotha (alias of Savage Grace)2015-01-23T17:00:48Z