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I wouldn't allow it. Its too big of an upgrade. At least not without some cost.

DND 3.0 had a book called Savage Species which covers PCs being monsters. It provided many options, such as starting at level 1 and advancing as a class, or magically changing species.

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Dragon78 wrote:

It would be cool if every character(regardless of race) got 1 free weapon prof. at level one.

I like that one. Maybe I'd use it to give my wizard elf prof with the elven curve blade. ;p

It's a fun idea, but it sounds like almost no one would ever use anything other than an exotic weapon. So, it shouldn't be a default rule, but it really would be a fun variant rule.

It was kind of a joke. As an elf, I would get proficiency in the longsword, rapier, shortbow, and longbow. And I could treat the elven curve blade as a martial weapon. As a wizard, that was good for weapons. If I was more serious about weapon choices, I might have picked the morningstar over the curve blade. As a weapon, it deals more damage than a quarterstaff, and deals damage as blunt and piercing simultaneously.

Or I could pick the feat simple weapon proficiency to cover all simple weapons. Then I could use that freebie weapon proficiency to get some other weapon.

Rule 0 is everyone should have fun. At least thats my rule.

I'm not fond of the price for ring of regeneration. Mind you I also think that the spell regeneration should also be of a lower level.

Forewarned is a supernatural ability, so it works in magical ways. My take is the wizard senses that there is danger the moment the surprise round starts, by supernatural means, but if they fail their perception check then, they don't know what the danger is. They could cast a spell to buff themselves, or maybe ready an action (like fire a crossbow at any target they see), but could not attack the hidden bad guy until they revealed themself.

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OmniMage wrote:

You should be able to take 10 when using fabricate to craft items with high degrees of craftsmanship.

You are casting a spell, so you are distracted from crafting. You can't take 10 (barring specific abilities that allow you to do that while distracted).

If thats true, the spell should mention that you can't take 10 on craft checks. I suppose its another problem with the fabricate spell. I'll rule that you can take 10 on craft checks when using fabricate.

It is not a rule of the spell, it is a rule of taking 10.

CRB wrote:

Taking 10: When your character is not in immediate danger or distracted, you may choose to take 10.

You need to concentrate while casting, so you are distracted it you take other actions while doing so.

CRB wrote:

Concentration

To cast a spell, you must concentrate. If something interrupts your concentration while you’re casting, you must make a concentration check or lose the spell.

I meant I wasn't ready to quite call it a house rule yet. It seems dumb to me that a spell about crafting won't let you take 10 on the crafting check.

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You should be able to take 10 when using fabricate to craft items with high degrees of craftsmanship.

You are casting a spell, so you are distracted from crafting. You can't take 10 (barring specific abilities that allow you to do that while distracted).

If thats true, the spell should mention that you can't take 10 on craft checks. I suppose its another problem with the fabricate spell. I'll rule that you can take 10 on craft checks when using fabricate.

Crafting skills don't yield a whole lot of money, either thru making money or crafting items. The real money is in adventuring. The money you can gain adventuring, especially at later levels, is well beyond what you can make with your normal crafting or profession skills. In that regard, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for adventurers to do their own crafting. Better leave crafting to the professionals. It can be worth the trouble to find skilled craftsmen so they can craft you masterwork gear, or even make expensive gear such as adamantine full plate armor (which will take a long time to craft).

Later, wizards get the fabricate spell which can craft items in an instant. So having crafting skills can be useful then. You probably don't need any crafting skills total raised beyond 10 to craft masterwork items. Alchemy however, needs a total of 15 to craft the most difficult items. You should be able to take 10 when using fabricate to craft items with high degrees of craftsmanship.

Crafting magic items changes things quite a bit. Some say that it doubles your wealth. This is only true if you have a lot of coin or trade goods (which sell at full price). If you are selling magic items (at half price), so you can get the money needed to buy supplies to make new magic items (also at half price), then you are just trading magic items around with no real change in wealth. Though making magic items you want instead of keeping whatever was randomly generated gives you a bit more mileage for your money.

The big reason why to craft your own magic items is the lack of availability. You can't craft magic scrolls, potions, wands, or staves without the right spells, so you need a good class (for spell availability) and a high caster level (for high level spells). Other magic items can be made without needing specific spells, but that raises the spellcraft DC (or crafting skill). The big limiting factor is the item creation feats. If you don't have the appropriate creation feats, then you can't craft magic items of that type. Fortunately, you can share magic item creation feats by working together. So a wizard can help a cleric scribe a scroll of cure light wounds, a bard could help a druid to craft a magic wand, a fighter could even help a wizard craft magic weapons and armor, and so on.

2E treats alcohol as poison? That definitely does away the point of the spell. The spell is supposed to determine whether someone put poison in your drink, not whether the drink itself will get you intoxicated. I guess we have to bring back the food tasters. Magic can't figure this out. ;p

I'm sure many GMs have their reasons. However, they should be clear on this and allow characters to trade in their magic item crafting feats for something else.

Death by papercut. Its what happens when you play wizard and don't invest in the toughness feat or constitution... or forget that you get max hit points at first level.

There is the reincarnate spell. It can restore life to those who died of old age.

There are some class archetypes that can reincarnate themselves if they die.

There is the Sun Orchid Elixir. It doesn't make you immortal, but it does the next best thing, restore youth.

I don't know. I don't recall seeing this question ever asked.

My best guess is that if anything can poison you in a single dose, such as poison in mug of beer, it'll register. A regular mug of beer shouldn't register. Many folks can have several drinks without side effects (maybe in the long term, but not today).

Well, if you are determined to still move forward on this, I think your best bet is to make your own class. Most Square Enix games have magic that most closely resembles spontaneous magic. So I'm thinking the class should be based upon the Arcanist or Sorcerer... or use the Psion (which isn't covered by 1st party products IIRC). Psionics is the closest match to have a supply of mp for spells.

Alternatively, you could base the class upon the Spell Sage Wizard archetype. The spell sage gets the ability to cast *any* spell on the Bard, Cleric, and Druid spell list spontaneously. So they have a very big spell list, one that could be replaced by spells you've seen monsters use. Normally it costs them 2 spell slots of the appropriate level per spell, has limited uses per day, and takes extra time to cast.

Nothing about channel energy mentions undead turning into dust, so its safe to assumed that they do not turn to dust.

However:

A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can't be raised by this spell. Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can't be raised. The spell cannot bring back a creature that has died of old age.

So raise dead can't raise any person turned into an undead monster and later destroyed.

However:

This spell functions like raise dead, except that you are able to restore life and complete strength to any deceased creature.

Resurrection or better can bring such a creature back to life.

I don't like these feats.

You can get detect magic as a cantrip by dipping a level into nearly any spellcasting class.

Spell resistance is a double edged sword. It protects you from hostile magic and "protects" you from helpful magic. You have to spend a standard action to drop spell resistance so an allied cleric can heal you.

Yeah. Wizards and other heavy spell casters are likely to start their adventures encumbered. A likely outcome considering they favor SAD builds.

Getting other party members to lighten your load could work. A str 14 character can carry twice what a str 10 wizard could. Also if they wear medium armor, then they suffer no penalty for carrying a medium load, which doubles their carry capacity. Your other party members might not be eager to help, so you might need to do them the odd favor.

Though I'm not too sure how important it is for heavy spell casters to be mobile at level 1. Considering they don't have many spells (even sorcerers) at that level, they should make themselves look as non threatening as possible. Maybe make themselves look like hired help with a crossbow.

I think adventuring groups should consider purchasing some animals to carry gear once they get some money. The party shouldn't need bedrolls or tents if they are exploring a small dungeon. Leave them with the animals. Leave the animals with some hired help some distance away from the dungeon entrance. You don't enemy reinforcements to see the animals; its a sure sign that someone is visiting. Also prevents them from killing the animals for food if they're hungry

At mid and later levels, efficient quivers can carry staves in the bow slots (6 slots), though the handy haversack or bag of holding can do much the same thing. 5 lbs for each staff vs 1 2 lbs for the efficient quiver.

I have some questions:

Can you combine masterwork backpacks with handy haversacks, or somehow use both on the same character?

Can you use your efficient quiver to carry crossbows and crossbow bolts? What can you fill the in the javelin slot besides javelins?

A network of teleportation circles (9th level wizard spell) could be enough reason to establish time zones. It will provide the means to travel vast distances quickly.

Or not. Nothing about teleportation circles require establishing a standardized system of time to work. You're not going to miss your teleport if 2 clocks have different times.

A quick net search shows that trains were the motivating factor for standardized time in most places. However, New Zealand was first and did it for their telegraph systems. This was in 1868, so standardized time is less than 200 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_time_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_time

I'm not much for exploiter wizard. They get exploits about half as fast as the arcanist. If you wanted exploits, you probably should have gone arcanist. Near as I can tell, as an exploiter wizard, you get half the exploits and keep wizard bonus feats.

I prefer the spell sage wizard archetype cause its one of the few builds that can access nearly all the spells in the game (bard, cleric, druid, and wizard). Though I think it could have been made better. I don't think you get the ability to use scrolls, wands, or staves for other class spells without use magic device. You merely gain the ability to spontaneously use 2 spell slots, a few times a day, into other class spells as you cast them in a round about way. You can't prepare other class spells; only convert your spells into them as you cast them.

To put it in another way, its one of the few classes that feels like you are a master of all magic.

Thank you, guys. I'll be going the item route, though spell sage was quite tempting. I appreciate the help.

Probably a wise idea. Not only do spell sages don't get bonus spells, but their special ability uses spell slots up faster. Also over kill if your needs can be met by a magic item.

I was thinking. How exactly would you contribute in combat? You are proposing making a wizard that does not have any buff or blasting spells. Just divination. I have a mental image of wizard fighting using a crossbow and not striking well because they have a poor attack bonus. They are doing this because they have no spells to help in a fight.

My new suggestion is to instead model the character after a bard. It'll give you a better hit dice, reflex roll, and attack roll. Your spell progression will be worse, but still good. Just divination spells though.

I would keep the bardic knowledge and lore master abilities, as they'll help improve the results of knowledge skill checks. I assume that you'll want this because you want a character that knows things.

If you would rather go the sorcerer route, I'd reduce the spell slots you get from each level. Not the amount when you first get them, but rather reduce the cap. A 4th level sorcerer has 6 1st level spell slots (+ bonuses). I'm suggesting you reduce it to 5 or 4. Trade those slots for some better combat ability.

I was thinking sorcerer as well. It can only know a small number of spells, and has the most power to go with a small list of spells known. The ability to spontaneous cast spells is a plus.

Pick all the divination spells you want, and maybe pick a few wizard divination specialist abilities while you're at it. If you want to be like a wizard, then maybe make the character consult a spell book every day while they 'prepare their spells'. Be an Int spell caster instead of a Cha spell caster.

That is what I would make quick and dirty. You might need to make a few changes down the road.

I think its spam. Check their user profile and you'll find they're selling something (online gambling). Damn bots are getting trickier to find.

This thread has got a more replies than I thought it would. I didn't realize the Rogue was so bad.

If the unchained version didn't fix the Rogue, can anything fix it?

Edit: Maybe it should be allowed to die instead.

I have a few questions.

Can an object be the target of 2 or more infusions? For instance, a belt with bull's strength and bear's endurance.

Can an object be imbued with a poorly matched infusion? For instance, a pair of goggles imbued with bull's strength.

I'm currently reviewing the trapfinding class feature the Rogue has. Near as I can tell, it has 3 benefits:
1) Adds a bonus equal to 1/2 the Rogue levels the character has (minimum 1) to all checks to find and disarm traps.
2) Can bypass traps if it beats the DC by 10.
3) Can disarm magic traps (DC 25 + spell level).

I'm okay with 1, but I'm not sure about 2 and 3. Is there any point in giving the Rogue the exclusive ability to bypass traps and disarm magic traps?

I'm thinking of getting rid of those exceptions and allow anyone with the skills to do those things. I was going to make it a feat, one that a Rogue would get as a bonus feat, and let anyone else who wanted to do 2 and 3 to pick up the feat. However, I'm unsure if those are even worth a feat. I'm thinking of doing away with exclusivity and let anyone with the skills attempt those things. Mind you, only those with significant skill bonuses to relevant skills have any chance of success (it seems that a character wanting to do 2 or 3 need a +10 bonus to pull them off).

Skill Mastery. This class feature from the old artificer class allowed the artificer to take 10 on Spellcraft and Use Magic Device checks. I think you should keep it for UMD checks. Spellcraft is okay, but not seriously needed (you can already take 10 on spellcraft checks when crafting magic items).

Instant Artisan (Ex): At 20th level, an artificer can create mundane or magical items with almost supernatural speed. She can create an item as a full-round action if she succeeds at the Craft or Spellcraft check and has the appropriate resources at hand to fund the creation.

Umm... does this do what I think it does? It looks like you can craft a lowly level 1 scroll or a 200,000 gp magic sword as a full-round action. I think this is too powerful.

I've been poking around with the numbers for the Eberron Artificer. Trying to craft magic items is hard; more so at 1st level. If you maxed out UMD and Cha, you would still need the skill focus feat to even get a 50/50 chance to craft a level 1 scroll (4 + 4 + 3 = 11). You can't take 10 on this (at least not until level 13), hence why the odds are 50%. If you factor in the last ditch roll, then the odds are pushed to 75%. If you are human, you could put the bonus feat into magical aptitude for a +2 bonus.

This problem is further compounded by the fact that a level 1 artificer has 20 points of craft reserve. You use them or lose them; you can't keep them for later levels. So to use them up, you need to make 20 scrolls, which has a total price of 500 gp. Getting half off for crafting yourself saves you 250 gp. With 75% odd of success means 25% rate of failure. That failure will cost you 62.5 gp.

Sorry about the rant. I'm kinda mystified as to why the writers thought artificers needing to use UMD to craft magic items was a good idea. The DCs were way too high. You have to be very committed to get good odds on your UMD rolls. You could not reliably craft level 1 scrolls until level 11 (or lower if you continued to optimize your character). At level 13 you gained the ability to take 10 on USD which made things much easier.

Long story short; I like the magic item creation rules pathfinder has more than the rules for DND 3.5 had.

I took a look over your work a few times. I haven't read the talents much. Here is my feedback.

Artificer Talent: At 2nd level, an artificer gains one artificer talent. She gains an additional artificer talent for every 2 levels of artificer attained after 2nd level. An artificer cannot select an individual talent more than once. Once a talent has been selected, it can’t be changed.

You should rephrase it so it says "Unless noted otherwise, an artificer can't select an individual talent more than once." There are artificer talents that says they can be picked more than once.

Master Artisan (Ex): At 3rd level, when an artificer creates a mundane item with the Craft skill, she uses the item’s gp value as its sp value when determining crafting progress (an artificer doesn’t multiply the item’s gp cost by 10 to determine its sp cost).

Swift Artisan (Ex): At 5th level, an artificer can create mundane or magical items with astounding speed. It takes an artificer half the normal amount of time to create items.

Between Master Artisan and Swift Artisan, I think there are too many class features that increases crafting speeds. I think you should drop master artisan. Crafting mundane items 10 times faster is difficult to believe let alone 20 times with swift artisan.

Item Creation (Ex): An artificer may use her artificer level as her caster level when creating magic items and meeting item creation feat prerequisites. An artificer may create potions, spell completion items, magic device traps, or spell trigger items, even if she does not have access to the prerequisite spells. An artificer still increases by 5 the DC when creating magic items for every prerequisite spell she does not have access to as normal.

I don't see anything about needing to make UMD checks to craft magic items. I think this is a good thing as I thought that was a bad defect back in the Eberron version.

Skipping spell prerequisites for spell completion and spell trigger items is not normally allowed, but I would make an exception since artificers can make magic items they can't normally use (without UMD).

The party might also be lower level than the adventure expects/requires. Each PC should be getting a cut of the xp. With the party being nearly double the size of a normal adventure party, they should be getting about half the xp.

Looking at the xp chart (table 3-1 of the core rulebook), I would expect the characters to be 2 levels behind where they would be if they were a 4 man party. This means they will be 1 whole spell level behind on spells. You should be ready to include a few scrolls of the spells they are missing so they can recover after battle, or have the proper tools to deal with monsters and traps.

I don't think we'll ever be sure if fabricate only works with one material or if it can handle multiple materials. We'd need paizo to rewrite parts of the spell.

I'm unfamiliar with technological items in pathfinder, so I can't help you much there.

I'm under the impression that you can only make things using fabricate that you can make using craft skills. The material component for fabricate is the raw material (which costs the same amount as the raw materials needed for the craft skill). So the spell follow some crafting rules.

Magic items need special magic item crafting feats. You can't even try it untrained like you could with craft skills. Fabricate can't make magic items, so maybe fabricate can't duplicate anything that you need crafting feats for.

So craft skills yes, craft feats no.

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Another build is to use the Unchained Monk with Wizard, Sorcerer, or witch. The resulting build has all good saves, good attack bonus, and good hit points. Arcane spell casters can't wear armor, so its fortunate the monk's unarmed fighting style doesn't cause arcane spell failure. Unfortunately, intelligence and charisma don't do much for the monk.

which is why i proposed scaled fist monk (or unchained monk. the archtype is in both). it uses cha for it's monk class abilities and bonus feats like stunning fist.

Oh, sorry. I didn't notice you had already written it. I'll delete that part.

I'm a bit fond of the simple wizard/sorcerer combo. Great for casting a lot of spells. Pathfinder adds a few new options. The sorcerer with the arcane bloodline and the sage wildblood option uses intelligence for their casting stat. That means you can push your intelligence to maximum instead of trying to strike a balance between 2 ability scores. As for the wizard, I'm fond of the spell sage. They can spontaneously cast any spell on the bard, cleric, or druid spell list by sacrificing 2 spell slots (and increased casting time). In this combo the sorcerer has the wizard's back, giving the character far more spells than what they'll lose with spell study.

If you are using traits, you might want to pick up Pragmatic Activator in order to use intelligence instead of charisma on your Use Magic Device rolls.

How could you afford such a monster? The whole thing would be 600k at least. It costs almost 3/4 the wealth of what a level 20 character is expected to have.

it's not a magical item, it's a "New special material" . like cold iron or drakwood

Yeah, I get that. But why 5 ranks in multiple craft skills? Wouldn't it make more sense to give craft DCs instead of requiring skill ranks?

Wait. Why does it list craft skills as prerequisites to make as though it were a magic item? Does one use crafting rules, or magic item crafting to make this item?

Qadira, Gateway to the East wrote:

New special material

Silversheen: Blades made of this special metal count as alchemical silver weapons and are immune to rust, including that of rust monsters, the rusting grasp spell, and so on. They are always masterwork weapons—most often scimitars or longswords; the listed price includes the cost of the masterwork bonus.
No aura (nonmagical property); CL —; Craft (alchemy) 5 ranks, Craft (weaponsmithing) 5 ranks; Price +750 gp.

It seems like the usual -1 damage from alchemical silver would apply.

The text doesn't mention the -1 damage, so I don't think it applies.

I found the item further down this page. You might want to search for 'rust' as its faster than searching for 'silver'.
https://www.aonprd.com/SpecialMaterials.aspx

Edit: Apparently you found it before I could reply.

Anyways, whats the problem? Do you not want the player to have this item? It does sound rare, so that would be understandable.

Interesting idea.

I've toyed with the idea of a high Int character that picked up a bunch of crafting skills. With an Int of 20 (+5 bonus), you would only need 2 ranks in a craft skill to make masterwork items (2 ranks + 3 class skill + 5 Int). With masterwork crafting tools, you would only need 1 skill rank (cause you won't get the class skill bonus with 0 ranks). Craft alchemy seems to be the only skill that has a DC of 25. That would require 7 skill ranks.

With the fabricate spell, costly magical components can be made in an instant. Trying to fabricate the components for something expensive could take years to complete. For example, making the focus components for a secret chest spell the slow way will take years to complete (5000 gp / 40 gp per week = 125 weeks). It would take 1.25 weeks for the miniature (50 gp).

I think the free spellbook and bonded item is for characters starting at level 1. A character who is multiclassing into a fighter don't get 5d6 * 10 gp to buy gear. With that in mind, any wizard without a spell book is unable to prepare any spells, so a multiclassed wizard would do well to get a tutor or loot another wizard's spell book so they have a means to get all the basic spells to start with.

I think the devs should have gave constructs and undead con scores. A con score doesn't have to mean you are alive alive; it should measure how hard you are to kill. Toughness basically. I find it odd that the undead now uses cha to do the same thing that con used to do. This also means that even the lowly skeleton and zombie now have an average cha score instead 1 as they did back in DND 3.x.

I think that the art of magic should improve over time (unless you are in a setting where magic has stagnated or even regressed). Because of this, I think that many spells may get improved over time. I wish to pick your minds for a bit, to get a sense of how spells might change over the centuries or even millennia.

One of the obvious examples is improved versions of spells:

Burning hands that deal damage with d6s instead of d4s.
A shield spell that lasts hours or maybe can be cast on other characters.
Spells from some classes might get ported over to another class.
Spells might drop a level (especially if they are lower for other classes).

I would love to hear what your thoughts on this are.

DND 3.x had infinite scrollcases. A shame they didn't make it to pathfinder.

https://dnd.arkalseif.info/items/magic-item-compendium--73/infinite-scrollc ase--416/index.html

I'm not aware of anything specific for potions or wands. You might have to settle for a handy haversack.

So I'm getting a lot of use buffs and utility spells, with the occasional magic missile spell. Also use spells that require an attack roll instead of a save.

With that in mind, would low level spell be useful/worth while if their save DC and damage kept up with high level spells?

I'm wondering if low level spells are of any use to a high level spell casters. They don't seem to be as powerful as high level spells, so I wonder if they have any use at all. So does anyone find low level spells useful at high level?

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I think the spell should be changed so it works properly. Since this a conjuration effect with a duration, therefore the spell should be subject to SR.

An alternative it to make it an instantaneous effect that creates a masterwork weapon with every casting. This would make a bunch of weapons that can be sold, which could break the economy, so I think it should have an expensive material component to prevent that. Something expensive enough so the caster would only just break even or something.

Another alternative is summon a weapon from somewhere else. I think this weapon should be properly tagged in a ritual so you can't just steal any weapon just by summoning it.

The problem is that it is a force weapon. If it was a normal masterwork weapon, summoning one would work fine without SR and a duration, as there is no magic that interacts with the creature attacked. (Exactly as it works for summoned creatures.)

But it is a weapon made of force 8and that is what makes it interesting), so the magic of the blade interacts with the attacked creatures.

Any of my characters would pay a masterwork force weapon at least as much as a +1 magic weapon. And then he would enchant it.

Oh. I thought I implied that the masterwork weapon wasn't a force weapon. On the internet, no one can tell if you are joking or being very serious... Yeah. I didn't mention it wasn't a force weapon (because it was not) and assumed that all readers would catch on.

Okay. Let me be clear. When I said masterwork weapon, I meant a normal masterwork weapon, not a masterwork force weapon. I thought what I didn't say would be noticed. I also said it was a good idea to change the spell, or create variants, because the spell being talked about didn't conform to the pattern other spells had.

So I proposed 3 versions. The first is a create masterwork weapon spell, the second be a summon weapon spell, and the third be a force sword spell.

As for a permanent force weapon, wouldn't a +1 ghost touch weapon (8000 gp) suffice?

I think the spell should be changed so it works properly. Since this a conjuration effect with a duration, therefore the spell should be subject to SR.

An alternative it to make it an instantaneous effect that creates a masterwork weapon with every casting. This would make a bunch of weapons that can be sold, which could break the economy, so I think it should have an expensive material component to prevent that. Something expensive enough so the caster would only just break even or something.

Another alternative is summon a weapon from somewhere else. I think this weapon should be properly tagged in a ritual so you can't just steal any weapon just by summoning it.

Speaking of backup weapons, is it worth worrying about getting caught in an antimagic field or magic dead zone? I'm thinking that there are many inexpensive magic items that store things for you. Like the efficient quiver which can store 6 items shaped and sized like a bow, and 60 arrows.