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Protoman wrote:

You probably forgot to apply the size modifier when figuring out the attack bonus.

The grindylow only has a +2 to attacks with the spear.
+0 BAB +1 Str bonus +1 size modifier = +2

The weapon finesss is be being applied to its bite attack. That's why it's at -2 instead of -3 when full attacking with the spear.

Do'h! This is what I get for trying to note down creatures when I should be sleeping. Thank you!


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88. Exotic Weapon Proficiency(Goblin Baby)


So something I stumbled across while prepping for one of my first big DM ventures with the Skull and Shackles campaign. Grindylows come up by part 2 of the first book and I cant figure out why they have the weapon finesse feat and are able to apply it to a spear- a two-handed weapon for there size by the damage given? Is there some rule I missed? I know a certain size category you start using you dex instead of you str for CMB inatlly without the agile maneuvers feat but I'm pretty sure weapon finesse is pretty clear in it description. I even checked the errata to no avail simple a fix on there bonus to hit not on the whole weapon finesse problem I'm having.


Drejk wrote:
Relevant OotS strip.

Heh, and now my day will be eaten up by this new comic and xkcd which it reminded me of. Thanks for the info.


Drejk wrote:

What RumpingRufus said.

The couatl "mystery" is easily resolved by checking couatl's entry on PRD. It does not have cure light wounds, it has cure moderate wounds. As PRD always contain newest errata I assume that the (older) printing of Bestiary you have contained an error that was later corrected.

No, I'm just bad at reading -.-


RumpinRufus wrote:

I think it uses the highest level of spells you can cast when you gain it. Example: Stone mystery oracle gains Wall of Stone (normally a 5th level spell) at 8th level (when her highest spell level is 4th.) Therefore, she uses 4th level spell slots to cast the spell.

So, the Celestial sorcerer would cast Bless as a first level spell, since that's the highest level spells she can cast when she gains it.

Got a feeling it might be something like that, seems to be some correlation between bloodline spells and 1 lvl later they gain a new level of spell cast. Just wish it wasn't so vauge


Isn't expending a ki point a swift action and you can only preform one swift action per round?


So this may be a terrible stupid question but I'm having trouble finding any clue to an answer. It came about from Witches and Patron spells and about what level those spells gained are. It says what lvl you gain that spell at but not necessary what level that spell is. I went back farther to find an answer and it leads me to a good example. Bloodline spells and Sorcerers, A Celestial sorcerer gains bless at 3rd lvl but what level do they cast it at? Is it just the standard Cleric lvl? Seems strange since a lot of spells have variable spell lvls for different classes. Another example is the Couatl form Bestiary 1 cast spells as a 9th lvl sorcerer but can cast from the cleric spell list yet Cure Light Wounds is a 2nd lvl spell? Help, brain itches.