paizo.com Recent Posts by Genetic Floodpaizo.com Recent Posts by Genetic Flood2018-04-29T09:22:30Z2018-04-29T09:22:30ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#502018-02-07T16:55:38Z2018-02-07T16:55:38Z<p>@Proley: Thank you for sharing!</p>
<p>So, <b>Backstory</b> in a few words: Born in the noble family in charge of power, the king, his father get murdered because he was ruling with weakness.
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A revolt breaks out in the city. Some of his brothers and the queen die, the firstborn is saved, they escape and they all divide.
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He acts as a squire to a paladin of an order. He becomes a knight.
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The firstborn dies and he becomes heir to the throne.</p>
<p>It becomes clear that he is willing to do anything to get what is due to him and is routed from the order.
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Joins an X (no idea which one could fit :D) order to get support and means to achieve the necessary power to create an army aimed at reconquering his kingdom.</p>@Proley: Thank you for sharing!
So, Backstory in a few words: Born in the noble family in charge of power, the king, his father get murdered because he was ruling with weakness.
A revolt breaks out in the city. Some of his brothers and the queen die, the firstborn is saved, they escape and they all divide.
He acts as a squire to a paladin of an order. He becomes a knight.
The firstborn dies and he becomes heir to the throne.
It becomes clear that he is willing to do anything to get what is...Genetic Flood2018-02-07T16:55:38ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#482018-02-05T12:29:08Z2018-02-05T12:29:08Z<p>@DoubleBubble: I agree with you! Harder but also more funny imho!
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Thanks for sharing that example!!!</p>
<p>I'm finishing the background (will post it asap) so people can say a word about/advice.</p>@DoubleBubble: I agree with you! Harder but also more funny imho!
Thanks for sharing that example!!!
I'm finishing the background (will post it asap) so people can say a word about/advice.Genetic Flood2018-02-05T12:29:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#462018-02-04T15:36:42Z2018-02-04T15:36:42Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">DeathlessOne wrote:</div><blockquote>Well, my idea was more along the lines of "blacksmith's favorite tool has been broken beyond repair and the remorse he feels is just that for a lost, useful tool". If you want your evil character to go through extra steps to keep up the masquerade, by all means. Money will cease to be much of a problem the further you get into the game (at least as far as normal, non-adventuring folk consider). </blockquote><p>Oh yeah, i see, i can play this stuff in two ways
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1)Humor/Sarcasm - "Ohh poor loved Jeremy, he could still have done so much for me".
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2)Masquerade of serious regret - Sending money to the fam, giving his wife/childs a job (related to my King-Reign storyline) and stuff like that.</p>
<p>@Gajavi: Agree. My GM gave me permission to do so.
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And agree again on CN. I've seen so many people using the CN excuse to do whatever they wanted to do, good or evil acts, law or chaos, everytime to enhance themselves.</p>DeathlessOne wrote:Well, my idea was more along the lines of "blacksmith's favorite tool has been broken beyond repair and the remorse he feels is just that for a lost, useful tool". If you want your evil character to go through extra steps to keep up the masquerade, by all means. Money will cease to be much of a problem the further you get into the game (at least as far as normal, non-adventuring folk consider).
Oh yeah, i see, i can play this stuff in two ways
1)Humor/Sarcasm - "Ohh poor...Genetic Flood2018-02-04T15:36:42ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#432018-02-04T11:32:35Z2018-02-04T11:32:35Z<p>@DoubleBubble: Yes, that's pretty much his background right now. He was the 4th son of 8 brothers. But since during the murdering of the king 4 died, and recently the first son died of disease, at this point of his background (where is gonna get enslaved by some kind of creature - help needed if you wish to -) he's the legitimate heir to the throne.</p>
<p>@Gajavi: thanks for the videos, they're awesome! I subscribed aswell.</p>
<p>@Magehunter: Reading about that character, thank you (never seen the series).
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What i see about Darth Vader is that (talking about EP I-II-III) he's in some way a kid, burning of emotions and easily manipulable. He can't see his Paranoia about the possibility that past events are repeated is killing the ones he loves and dragging him on a road of power seeking.</p>
<p>@Deathless One: This one could be a cool one, really. Should he, maybe, pray for the victim's soul? Or maybe confess himself in a church everytime? Send money or stuff to the family?</p>
<p>@Hark: Thank you, that example is aswesome really. "How to smart evil".</p>
<p>@Wei Ji The Learner: Reading the list ehehe!!</p>
<p>@Saashaa: "A campaign designed for Evil characters", what do you mean with that? An evil party?
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I've seen PvP in the past and i can assure you nobody of them were playing an evil character. I believe PvP happens because of the players: depending more on personal feelings, metagame, lack of roleplaying, or just bad days.
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Also lets remember that even Good and Neutral can perform Evil actions.</p>
<p>This said i believe that where Evil gives the major opportunity for a nice roleplay combo, from all the players and GM, is in a mixed alignment group.
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I think people just focus too much on "Good" and "Evil" as concepts: like a Good people spot the Evil alignment of someone else "Ahh, for the sake of Goodness, i'm gonna kill you with my sword", this sounds funny to me.
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Good and Evil are personal views imho.
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Example: The Necromancer, born in a cemetery (ehehehe) and raised/teached from his own mother on how to get some help from the people that once were alive, will raise corpses [Evil Act].
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With those he's helping people of a village with the rebuilt of it after a big catastrophe destroyed it, with no personal advantages [Good Act].
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So, me the good paladin of good goodness, am i gonna kill/imprison the Helpomancer?</p>
<p>My group is playing together since 5+ years, i'm pretty confident we will roleplay this out.
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Collaborating and avoiding PvP are my first goals.
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Anyway you can play extremely selfish characters without being Evil at all (i've seen many).</p>
<p>Ruining other people's fun isn't my intention; i believe you had crazy bad experiences at the table for being so scared about this.</p>@DoubleBubble: Yes, that's pretty much his background right now. He was the 4th son of 8 brothers. But since during the murdering of the king 4 died, and recently the first son died of disease, at this point of his background (where is gonna get enslaved by some kind of creature - help needed if you wish to -) he's the legitimate heir to the throne.
@Gajavi: thanks for the videos, they're awesome! I subscribed aswell.
@Magehunter: Reading about that character, thank you (never seen the...Genetic Flood2018-02-04T11:32:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#332018-02-03T21:18:19Z2018-02-03T21:18:19Z<p>Now i've setted Ideals etc as follow:</p>
<p>Character: I pretend respect from those who i deal with and i wont tolerate any affront to my honor.</p>
<p>Ideals: My word is my reputation and i will always honor it.</p>
<p>Bond: I will do anything necessary to take back what belongs me by right.</p>
<p>Flaws: Here's my issue. I don't want a "classic" flaw, i want to find something "original", fitting and interesting.</p>Now i've setted Ideals etc as follow:
Character: I pretend respect from those who i deal with and i wont tolerate any affront to my honor.
Ideals: My word is my reputation and i will always honor it.
Bond: I will do anything necessary to take back what belongs me by right.
Flaws: Here's my issue. I don't want a "classic" flaw, i want to find something "original", fitting and interesting.Genetic Flood2018-02-03T21:18:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#322018-02-03T21:11:33Z2018-02-03T21:11:33Z<p>Nice examples!</p>Nice examples!Genetic Flood2018-02-03T21:11:33ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#282018-02-03T18:34:37Z2018-02-03T18:34:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">KestrelZ wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Whoops. My mistake - meant to say Cassian, not Galen in the above post. </p>
<p>One example of an evil character in a morally mixed party is Cassian from Rogue One.</p>
<p>•• spoiler omitted ••</p>
<p>To answer Genetic Flood - Yes, during the fight on the planet Jedha between partisans ambushing an Empire tank and storm troopers.
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•• spoiler omitted •• </blockquote><p>Oh well yeah Cassian would sacrifice almost anyone for the cause he believes in (everyone except Jyn and the funny Terminator friend).
<p>@ShroudedinLight: well everyone's is saying "not killing childrens", i already pointed out he wont kill a children (he will cut his hands off, make him guilty of a crime the child didn't commit, he could let him die probably if is a poor child and pushing stuff like that, but he wont kill him).
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Sex-crimes are no sense for this PC, love burn like flames in his heart, and part of the "enjoying" is to seduce women for sure, no sense raping them.</p>
<p>I don't plan at all to work vs my party. No way, i don't like to do such stuff, and either i don't wanna create a crazy monster or murderhobo PC.
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Just an Evil convinced that his actions are done for a good pourpose, like creating/re-conquering his own realm (writing the background i made him be a part of a noble family who was king of the realm. His father was a "Good King", too good that he free all slaves and use crown's found to help people. He was murdered from local nobles family, who seek the power and want to return at their "Rich" status, while some close reign was afraid from that king because they believe slaves in their realms would have the same freedom as the Good King's ex-slaves and become riots, they helped nobles to kill him. Some other Realms could use this weakness (king too kind) to attack for conquer)</p>KestrelZ wrote:Whoops. My mistake - meant to say Cassian, not Galen in the above post.
One example of an evil character in a morally mixed party is Cassian from Rogue One.
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To answer Genetic Flood - Yes, during the fight on the planet Jedha between partisans ambushing an Empire tank and storm troopers.
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Oh well yeah Cassian would sacrifice almost anyone for the cause he believes in (everyone except Jyn and the funny Terminator friend)....Genetic Flood2018-02-03T18:34:37ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#252018-02-03T13:41:26Z2018-02-03T13:41:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">UnArcaneElection wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">dien wrote:</div><blockquote><p> {. . .}
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The point is just that evil's at its most compelling when it's wrapped in good intentions. The dictator who just wants absolute power is... a cartoon. The dictator who wants absolute power because he or she is legitimately convinced that the populace will be better and happier under their rule, and that any sacrifices are acceptable on that road, is terrifying. </blockquote><p>The dictator who just wants absolute power is . . . actually quite common, and includes some of Earth's most heinous dictators, and is terrifying enough. For public relations reasons, they usually advertise that the populace will be better and happier under their rule, but it's usually pretty obviously lies.
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</blockquote><p>Could he be an interesting character to play or better focus on something else?UnArcaneElection wrote:dien wrote:{. . .}
The point is just that evil's at its most compelling when it's wrapped in good intentions. The dictator who just wants absolute power is... a cartoon. The dictator who wants absolute power because he or she is legitimately convinced that the populace will be better and happier under their rule, and that any sacrifices are acceptable on that road, is terrifying.
The dictator who just wants absolute power is . . . actually quite common, and includes...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T13:41:26ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#232018-02-03T13:14:19Z2018-02-03T13:14:19Z<p>@Kjeldorn: everything helps! I'm trying to figure out how to play and create an evil character, since we are starting a new campaign (actually we're playing one since 5 years) with my group of players (i'm a player, i'm not the GM) and since we know us very well i wanted to propose an evil character because i'm sure we can have fun roleplaying around and helping each other the party working!</p>
<p>@KestrelZ: I don't see Galen killing partisans honestly (haven't seen yet the movie completely, but having seen him dying i'm assuming he wont kill anymore), did he do that in the movie?</p>@Kjeldorn: everything helps! I'm trying to figure out how to play and create an evil character, since we are starting a new campaign (actually we're playing one since 5 years) with my group of players (i'm a player, i'm not the GM) and since we know us very well i wanted to propose an evil character because i'm sure we can have fun roleplaying around and helping each other the party working!
@KestrelZ: I don't see Galen killing partisans honestly (haven't seen yet the movie completely, but...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T13:14:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#202018-02-03T11:37:29Z2018-02-03T11:37:29Z<p>And it was @Gajavi, thank you!</p>And it was @Gajavi, thank you!Genetic Flood2018-02-03T11:37:29ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#242018-03-08T23:24:26Z2018-02-03T09:47:56Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sigmund Freud wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Welcome to the boards!</p>
<p>So, tell me, what was your relationship like with your mother? </blockquote><p>Hey thanks guys :D.
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I can feel psychoanalysis pushing through</p>Sigmund Freud wrote:Welcome to the boards!
So, tell me, what was your relationship like with your mother?
Hey thanks guys :D.
I can feel psychoanalysis pushing throughGenetic Flood2018-02-03T09:47:56ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#172018-02-03T09:44:14Z2018-02-03T09:44:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">DeathlessOne wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Dastis wrote:</div><blockquote>Brilliant post DeathlessOne</blockquote><p>Well, thank you. I'll let you judge the 'brilliance'. I suppose I was able to properly convey my meaning to at least one person then? :)
<p>Remember, real EVIL is all about how it FEELS, taken to the extreme. It is why we have such a hard time understanding the motivations of real evil. We try to approach it from a logical, thoughtful, reflecting manner and that kind of thinking (especially the thoughtful) is hard, coarse ground for the seeds of evil to take purchase. However, sometimes real evil finds purchase even there and a clever enough mind can turn that kind of thinking to more sinister directions. Evil with purpose is the most dangerous. </blockquote><p>I would appreciate if you guys could give me some examples of this kind of evil :)!DeathlessOne wrote:Dastis wrote:Brilliant post DeathlessOne
Well, thank you. I'll let you judge the 'brilliance'. I suppose I was able to properly convey my meaning to at least one person then? :) Remember, real EVIL is all about how it FEELS, taken to the extreme. It is why we have such a hard time understanding the motivations of real evil. We try to approach it from a logical, thoughtful, reflecting manner and that kind of thinking (especially the thoughtful) is hard, coarse ground for...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T09:44:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#162018-02-03T09:01:36Z2018-02-03T09:01:36Z<p>@PossibleCabbage: Still defining how the PC will work, but i'm pretty sure he wont be the "guy seeking for redeem himself", i'm more oriented on the "guy who thinks he's doing the right thing".</p>
<p>@Dastis: You got a point there, the biggest problem is how good works with you!
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Nice example on OOTS!</p>
<p>@DoubleBubble: Nice example. I'm more oriented on some kind of King-like PC, not a thief, someone with some kind of honor, mostly following "laws".</p>
<p>@Asmodeus' Advocate: Nice guides! I'm reading them right now thank you.</p>
<p>@Wei Ji the Learner: I agree, i'm more on the King-kind of PC. He wants to reign with laws and order.</p>@PossibleCabbage: Still defining how the PC will work, but i'm pretty sure he wont be the "guy seeking for redeem himself", i'm more oriented on the "guy who thinks he's doing the right thing".
@Dastis: You got a point there, the biggest problem is how good works with you!
Nice example on OOTS!
@DoubleBubble: Nice example. I'm more oriented on some kind of King-like PC, not a thief, someone with some kind of honor, mostly following "laws".
@Asmodeus' Advocate: Nice guides! I'm reading them...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T09:01:36ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#92018-02-03T06:03:46Z2018-02-03T06:03:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Corpi Hoppins wrote:</div><blockquote><p> To me the first thing you need to know is why is he evil? Is it because he doesn't care about killing someone for money, worships an evil diety, doesn't know any better etc. Another thing is what is the line they won't cross. Most of the evil character I've made don't like slavery, rape, or killing children. Evil doesn't mean you have to be on board with every evil thing its your actions or worldview that are twisted.
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Working with a party is pretty easy if your smart. The key is an evil person will, if they are smarter than average, know that their behavior is not socially acceptable and would thus not throw their evil in peoples faces but rather would cut loose when they can justify to themselves and others that this is needed to get the job done.
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You may volenteer at the orphanage and give to charity and be the otherwise nicest person but then you go and preach about how great your dark god is and how they will bring about a glorious age that to you is the best thing ever but others may be wary of. </p>
<p></blockquote><p>So, first thing is to define why is he evil, right?
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Lets assume (i'm building everything right now :D) he's evil but he doesn't know to be one (is that possible?).
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He want to build his own empire because he's tired that in his "nation" barbarian tribes are such destructive catastrophes and they pillage farmers and little villages, and he see that the current kingdom's army can't control them all or just don't care too much about.
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Why is he evil? Well he's ready to do everything to achieve his goal.
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Some line he wont cross could be: not killing rich men, but get them into slavery to build his own castle/city. Those men deserve to serve because they weren't able to help citizens or just didn't care about, caring just about their own wealth and money. Also killing them would be such an easy way to end their life.
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He would probably use the law as a part to get this done, for example: he goes to the Rich man and he ask him to voluntarily surrend into slavery. The Rich man says no. The PC says he will harm his children if he don't voluntarily surrend. The Rich man refuses.
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The PC pay someone to witness that the children is responsible for a crime. This could lead into the surrendering of the Rich man or the children paying for the crime.</p>Corpi Hoppins wrote:To me the first thing you need to know is why is he evil? Is it because he doesn't care about killing someone for money, worships an evil diety, doesn't know any better etc. Another thing is what is the line they won't cross. Most of the evil character I've made don't like slavery, rape, or killing children. Evil doesn't mean you have to be on board with every evil thing its your actions or worldview that are twisted.
Working with a party is pretty easy if your smart. The...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T06:03:46ZRe: Forums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#42018-02-03T05:27:12Z2018-02-03T05:27:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">lemeres wrote:</div><blockquote> Depending on the campaign, the first question you must answer is this: why doesn't he leave? Or avoid constant party in fighting (robbery/demon sacrifice/etc)? </blockquote><p>Nice question, lets assume that he doesn't leave because he's aware of his lack of power due to "his level" to say that "mechanically".
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Assuming his goal could be "creating his own empire", he see he could use some help from the party to get more powerful and respected to start the basis for his empire.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">lemeres wrote:</div><blockquote>In terms of anchoring points, I personally like "[other party member] is my brother" myself. It provides a simple justification for sticking around, even if the other character might be a good two shoes. So this can require the evil character to 'play nice' and only occasionally "take care of the problem" (read: murder the baby goblins so they can stop arguing about it). </blockquote><p>This could be one, requires another PC to work with you tho, and also is some kind of crazy bond to have for both parts involved.
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Starting from the first level, where PCs don't know themselves and get recruited by a random NPC for a quest, in exchange of money (classic example of a start), the evil PC choose to work with the party for the money, right?
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About goblin babies, no one seems to care about: i've seen even Paladins slaying them in a cold-hearted manner, "because they're babies yes, but they're evil monsters". Lets say everyone justify his action how they want, to pass for the good guy in any case.</p>
<p>Now assuming one goal could be "creating your own empire", playing evil how do you plan to avoid party-fighting? What could you do to set the basis for you empire? How do you recruit minions during the campaign?</p>lemeres wrote:Depending on the campaign, the first question you must answer is this: why doesn't he leave? Or avoid constant party in fighting (robbery/demon sacrifice/etc)?
Nice question, lets assume that he doesn't leave because he's aware of his lack of power due to "his level" to say that "mechanically".
Assuming his goal could be "creating his own empire", he see he could use some help from the party to get more powerful and respected to start the basis for his empire. lemeres wrote:In...Genetic Flood2018-02-03T05:27:12ZForums: Advice: How to: EvilGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuuj?How-to-Evil#12018-02-03T14:10:22Z2018-02-03T04:35:26Z<p>Hey guys! Hoping i'm posting this in the right place.</p>
<p>So, i've played for many years around the table and this question has always obsessed me: How to create, define and play an Evil Character?
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Which are his goals? Why is he evil? How do you make that work within the party?</p>
<p>I've always played just good and neutral characters (well, at least that was my intention and was what i had written on my sheet).</p>Hey guys! Hoping i'm posting this in the right place.
So, i've played for many years around the table and this question has always obsessed me: How to create, define and play an Evil Character?
Which are his goals? Why is he evil? How do you make that work within the party?
I've always played just good and neutral characters (well, at least that was my intention and was what i had written on my sheet).Genetic Flood2018-02-03T04:35:26ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#212018-03-08T23:24:07Z2018-01-30T10:07:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I personally agree strongly with you and find the old Summoner works just fine for my campaigns, but hey that's just me.</p>
<p>Welcome to the boards eye-guy =) </blockquote><p>Hey thank you Orthos.
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One of my friends is currently playing the summoner (Old School) in the campaign i mentioned.
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I think is all about balancing. We all know the Summoner is lil too much overpowered in fights if well built: so the player himself limits his powers (obiouvsly using roleplay to justify).</p>
<p>But about the customization of your Eidolon was really better.</p>Orthos wrote:I personally agree strongly with you and find the old Summoner works just fine for my campaigns, but hey that's just me.
Welcome to the boards eye-guy =)
Hey thank you Orthos.
One of my friends is currently playing the summoner (Old School) in the campaign i mentioned.
I think is all about balancing. We all know the Summoner is lil too much overpowered in fights if well built: so the player himself limits his powers (obiouvsly using roleplay to justify).But about the...Genetic Flood2018-01-30T10:07:52ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#192018-03-08T23:23:59Z2018-01-29T21:31:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">GM MacShack wrote:</div><blockquote> Hi! </blockquote><p>Hey Hey Mack!GM MacShack wrote:Hi!
Hey Hey Mack!Genetic Flood2018-01-29T21:31:38ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#172018-03-08T23:23:58Z2018-01-29T20:54:44Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Limeylongears wrote:</div><blockquote> Hello, Genetic Flood! </blockquote><p>Thanks Limey!Limeylongears wrote:Hello, Genetic Flood!
Thanks Limey!Genetic Flood2018-01-29T20:54:44ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#152018-03-08T23:23:49Z2018-01-29T16:39:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dale McCoy Jr wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Genetic Flood wrote:</div><blockquote>but i find the "new one" too much restricted in terms of how your Eidolon appears. </blockquote>Talk to your GM about making a new kind of outsider, one that works for you. </blockquote><p>Good idea, i can certainly ask that.Dale McCoy Jr wrote:Genetic Flood wrote:but i find the "new one" too much restricted in terms of how your Eidolon appears.
Talk to your GM about making a new kind of outsider, one that works for you. Good idea, i can certainly ask that.Genetic Flood2018-01-29T16:39:36ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#122018-03-08T23:23:31Z2018-01-29T16:10:42Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Dale McCoy Jr wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Genetic Flood wrote:</div><blockquote> Thank you guys! I will post as soon as possible for some help regarding a class i've never played and that has been changed: The Summoner. </blockquote>Short answer: stick with the Pathfinder Unchained version. Paizo admits they made the version in the Advanced Players Guide too powerful. </blockquote><p>Yes, i know the "original" version was way too powerful, but i find the "new one" too much restricted in terms of how your Eidolon appears.Dale McCoy Jr wrote:Genetic Flood wrote: Thank you guys! I will post as soon as possible for some help regarding a class i've never played and that has been changed: The Summoner.
Short answer: stick with the Pathfinder Unchained version. Paizo admits they made the version in the Advanced Players Guide too powerful. Yes, i know the "original" version was way too powerful, but i find the "new one" too much restricted in terms of how your Eidolon appears.Genetic Flood2018-01-29T16:10:42ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#92018-03-08T23:23:14Z2018-01-29T16:05:10Z<p>Thank you guys! I will post as soon as possible for some help regarding a class i've never played and that has been changed: The Summoner.</p>Thank you guys! I will post as soon as possible for some help regarding a class i've never played and that has been changed: The Summoner.Genetic Flood2018-01-29T16:05:10ZRe: Forums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#42018-03-08T23:22:13Z2018-01-29T15:27:01Z<p>•accept hugs• ^-^!!
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Thanks, i'll try to be sneaky then, don't wanna get bitten :D!</p>*accept hugs* ^-^!!
Thanks, i'll try to be sneaky then, don't wanna get bitten :D!Genetic Flood2018-01-29T15:27:01ZForums: Off-Topic Discussions: Introducing MyselfGenetic Floodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uuij?Introducing-Myself#12018-03-08T23:21:55Z2018-01-29T15:03:40Z<p>So, i don't know if i'm doing it in the right section, but i wanted to introduce myself.
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I started gaming on 2006, using Dungeons and Dragons 3.5th edition, with some friends, just for fun. We didn't know very good the rules, and often we did improvise just to keep the fun, and let's say that start made me discover a passion i currently own!</p>
<p>In 2012 we started Pathfinder, with a GM at his first experience ever, in a homebrew campaign that we're currently playing.
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I concurred creating part of the world around us with my Background, and that makes me proud of it.</p>
<p>Now, i've never been good at optimization, so, God bless Google, looking for advice on "how to" i find out this forum.</p>
<p>Hoping to learn and eventually help somehow, Happy to be here!</p>
<p>Gen</p>So, i don't know if i'm doing it in the right section, but i wanted to introduce myself.
I started gaming on 2006, using Dungeons and Dragons 3.5th edition, with some friends, just for fun. We didn't know very good the rules, and often we did improvise just to keep the fun, and let's say that start made me discover a passion i currently own!
In 2012 we started Pathfinder, with a GM at his first experience ever, in a homebrew campaign that we're currently playing.
I concurred creating part of...Genetic Flood2018-01-29T15:03:40Z