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Alternative build (without martial flexibility). I'll take the first 6 levels in Slayer to make the archer viable soon in the game, then at least 6 levels sanctified slayer inquisitor, with anger inquisition to acquire rage. The problem is that I do not know how to stack the different bonuses from studied target. Also I hope, but am admittedly doubtful, I can use the rage bonuses from the savage technologist archetype (Dex and Strength).

Race: half-orc
By level:
1: Studied Target +1, Feat: point-blank shot
2: Rogue talent: Weapon Training: composite longbow
3: Sneak attack +1d6, Feat: deadly aim
4: Ranger combat style: precise shot
5: Studied Target +2, Feat: rapid shot
6: Sneak attack +2d6, Ranger combat style: manyshot
7: Anger inquisition, Feat: leadership
8:
9: Solo tactics, Bonus: coordinated shot, Feat: clustered shots
10: +3d6 sneak attack
11: Bane, Feat: reckless aim
12: Divine Anger, bonus: amplified rage


ekibus wrote:
Honestly a very powerful option is a Sanctified Slayer inquisitor. Basically you take a couple hits but you gain spells and some really nice teamwork feats... to give you a idea he has bane (+2hit/damage and 2d6) Divine favor (at level 11 it is +4 hit and damage) I use a spell call bloodhound which gives me scent and with the pheromone arrows I get another +2 hit and damage Greater magic weapon (in case you want to get something other that + to hit and damage) Long story short you hit really hard.

That is indeed a nice alternative to the Slayer class! I'll try it and compare with the original build.


Sir Belmont the Valiant wrote:

Have you given up on Seething Hatred? I'm not sure from the discussion.

An additional problem with seething hatred is that it only applies to one enemy type that is selected from the ranger list...

Quote:

Prerequisite(s): Studied target class feature.

Benefit: Select a creature type from the Ranger Favored Enemies table. When you designate a creature of this type as your studied target and hit it with a melee or ranged weapon attack, your favored target bonus on damage rolls against it is doubled.

I would have changed the type every time I used martial flexibility. I still have to decide whether or not to keep it, because it costs me one level in a class with martial flexibility but gives +4 damage (having used focused target)


VoodistMonk wrote:

You can use the Stygian Slayer archetype to get a couple uses of Invisibility on your own.

You could also trade out Brawler for Eldritch Scrapper Sorcerer, still pick up Martial Flexibility, and have access to wands on the Sorcerer spell list. This loses a point of BAB, but picks up your Will saves.

You added Weapon Focus to your damage calculations, but it only adds +1 to your attack roll.

Your action economy is not correct in your explanation.

Swift: Study Target
Move: Martial Flexibility
Standard: ???

You don't have to wait until the next round to attack. Sure, full attack on the next round with all those benefits, but don't forget to standard action attack on the same round as Study Target/Martial Flexibility... or drink a potion, just don't waste that standard action on your first round.

The rest looks pretty solid.

Sap Master blunt arrows should be a tremendous amount of fun.

Yeah I skipped the standard action because I wanted to show the full round action, but I am going to use it. Nice suggestion about the Eldrich scrapper sorcerer, my will save was actually very low.


Del_Taco_Eater wrote:
I'm admittedly unfamiliar with some of the feats you are using, but some of your math confuses me. Why does seething hatred give +5 to hit? Also, doesn't focused target give a maximum of +1 to hit? Why does weapon focus give +1 damage? There may already be threads about it, but I read sap adept to only grant +3 dmg because you have 3 sneak dice. Finally, being invisible does not activate sap master, so you may want to consider that damage a rare bonus rather than your typical amount.

You are right, I misremembered the description of the feats. Being the bonus from hatred only to damage and that from focused target limited to +1 I think I'll completely change the 11th level. As to sap adept, it is +6 only if combined with sap master, because i roll a total of 6 dice, but it is actually very situational.


Hi everybody! I am building an archer that I intend to play in my next campaign. The main purpose is to make it fun to play, but since I play with people that tend to optimize their builds it also has to be competitive. So this is the build for now, I appreciate every advice to improve it and/or suggestions for higher levels. Thank you very much.

I was thinking about a Slayer 10/ Brawler 1/ Slayer X, but I am open to choose other classes

Build:

By level:
1: Studied Target +1, Feat: point-blank shot
2: Rogue talent: Weapon Training: composite longbow
3: Sneak attack +1d6, Feat: deadly aim
4: Ranger combat style: precise shot
5: Studied Target +2, Feat: rapid shot
6: Sneak attack +2d6, Ranger combat style: manyshot
7: Stalker, Feat: leadership
8: Combat trick: Sap Adept
9: Sneak attack +3d6, Feat: sap master
10: Studied Target +3, Combat trick: Clustered Shots
11: Martial Flexibility, Feat: Focused Target

I my calculations are correct at level 11:
Swift: Studied Target
Move: martial flexibility-->seething hatred
Next round:
To hit:
11 BAB
X dexterity
3 studied target
2 focused target
5 seething hatred
1 weapon focus
1 point-blank shot
-3 deadly aim
-2 rapid shot
= 18+X/18+X/18+X/13+X/8+X

Damage per arrow:
X strength
1d8
3 studied target
3 seething hatred
6 deadly aim
1 point-blank shot
1 weapon focus
≈18,5+X
If able to sneak (does not apply on the manyshot arrow)
+6 sap adept
+6d6 sap master
≈ 45.5 +X

I am taking leadership to have a faerie dragon that will act as the utility caster, since there's none in the party, and occasionally as battlefield controller (he's going to be a wizard sorcerer or arcanist). He will also take most of the crafting feats.

To deal non lethal damage I will use blunt arrows, to sneak attack I will have the dragon cast invisibility on me.

As to equipment it will really depend on how the master intends to develop the campaign