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I dont entirely appreciate words being put in my mouth that I never said. I never said I wanted to dick or screw over the player or anything else that has been said recently here.

With that, I am going to take my leave from this thread. Thank you all who gave alternatives to my original request! I appreciate that!

DiceBagChick wrote:

I wish to have a spell-like ability to cast the spell "permanency" at will, and without any cost, and without any unintended consequences, and without the chance of failure, And have no limit to the number of times I can cast it, and have no limit on how often i can cast it.and without level requirement.

"I wish for an at-will CL 18th spell-like ability of permanency."

That's the I'm-not-trying-really-hard-to-keep-my-DM-from-screwing-me version.

Seriously.

Spell-like abilities don't have material costs.

At-will means an unlimited number of times unless there's additional mitigating text. "You can cast sleep on yourself at will until you hit puberty, when this ability ceases to function."

Without unintended consequences is literally the player saying "please don't screw me, I'm telling you what I'm wishing for, and either grant it or bloody tell me I can't have it, but I don't want this wish if it means every time I use it I turn into a frog."

That's it. From there, it's all repeating the same things over and over.

"Don't screw me."
"Don't screw me."
"Don't screw me."
"Don't screw me."

I've read the thread, and while there's some bumpy moments here and there, I'm sorry, but the thread boils down to "how can I screw my player?"

It's up to the DM to decide if an at-will CL 18th permanency SLA (yes, the wish can be broken down to 30 characters including spaces) is reasonable or not. But my answer to the thread is "don't".

One more thing.

For those folks saying "you can't wish for game mechanics", I cry foul. We use game rules to describe how things work at the table. The PC himself might be saying the words "I wish whenever I wanted to, I could do that thing that the most powerful of wizards can do, where they can make some spells last forever." Oh wait. What's a "wizard"? Right. Back to screw the player. The player using game terms is to your benefit, so you know what the expectations are.

If you truly believe that my thread is how to completely screw over my player, then you havent read anything i've posted. I want to pare down his request while still giving him some of his wish.

mess with != screw over.

DiceBagChick wrote:

Rynjin wrote:

Next time if you don't want people to "jump to conclusions" don't say "How do I mess with this" and more "How do I come up with an alternate version of this" and give all the info at once instead of trickling it out a little at a time.

Guess that's my bad, i didnt figure a few people for being jerkish to me for something that's fairly common in gaming (GMs messing with wish to some extent), so i felt the need to constantly clarify things that were said or I didnt think needed to be said.

My thanks to those who did give reasonable alternatives though.

DiceBagChick, your question was fine as written.

People should not expect that all the information has been handed out.

You asked a reasonable question and instead of answering the question as it was asked some people posted responses that were not in line with the question and decided to place labels based on incomplete information.

Rather than accepting that different people have different gaming styles some people like to jump to the idea that if you do X then you must be a bad GM without understanding that the group dynamics may be different than what they would normally experience.

Thank you! I thought that by paring down my question to just the bare bones would have been more appreciated than a tl;dr version, but I guess that went over some people's heads.

Next time if you don't want people to "jump to conclusions" don't say "How do I mess with this" and more "How do I come up with an alternate version of this" and give all the info at once instead of trickling it out a little at a time.

Guess that's my bad, i didnt figure a few people for being jerkish to me for something that's fairly common in gaming (GMs messing with wish to some extent), so i felt the need to constantly clarify things that were said or I didnt think needed to be said.

My thanks to those who did give reasonable alternatives though.

Just for the clarification for everyone involved, the player has a link to this thread so he can read the responses, I even told him I was posting it here. We were planning on coming up with a reasonable way to screw with it TOGETHER, but as usual people jump to conclusions. He knew fully well that GMs screw with the request to some extent.

For the record, I'm a she, not a he - as i was referred to earlier in the thread.

edit to add: as I stated earlier, I plan on compiling a list of reasonable alternatives. Next session I will present him with the alternatives to the request and let him decide which one he'd rather have. As it stands right now, I do not feel comfortable with the way its written. I'd rather let him have a similar or alternate version of his wish than to let it poof in smoke.

Why don't you try to be creative?

You know what that means?

DON'T MESS WITH THE F+@@ING WISH

Why is it every GM feels like they need to dick around every time Wish comes into play? You brought the Deck of Many Things into the game, man up and accept the potential consequences of that decision instead of pulling the same tired, boring power tripping b%%+*$!# every GM since the dawn of time has thought was funny for some unfathomable reason.

He asked for a spell at-will. A spell with a very limited set of potential applications. Let him have what he wants for christ's sake.

Well aren't you a peach? Who said I was on a power trip? It's called having FUN with players. If you arent there to have fun and only min max, what's the point?

edit to add: The truth of the matter is, the way the wish was given to me is too over powered for the way wish is written. The more you add to it, the more it has the capability to go wrong. Your rudeness to me was un-necessary nor do you know the dynamic of my group. This is a group of people who have fun, so me messing with his wish slightly is not being a tyrant, it's having fun as a first time DM after being a player for over 20 years.