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Liliana, Kiran and Tessara, RIP.

Felled by the demon horde in front of Thorn's End because they were sure they could take them on.


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JiCi wrote:
Ryan Freire wrote:
JiCi wrote:
avr wrote:
JiCi wrote:

Personally, prestige classes should have been reworked into archetypes. How? By replacing higher-level abilities starting at 10th level.

It,s already pretty dampening to get into a prestige class, might as well convert it into an archetype. I get that many of them are representing some sort of membership, but come on, they don't make your character any better...

The trouble with archetypes for high levels is that a lot of classes don't have much in the way of class features to swap at high levels. The trouble with using archetypes to replace prestige classes is that it makes a prestigious organisation something associated with one specific class only, and removes the multiclass-supporting prestige classes too.

The problem I see is that a good chunk of PrCs aren't part of organisations, but specializations: Battle Herald (Bard), Arcane Trickster (Magus), Horizon Walker (Ranger), Holy Vindicator (Bloodrager), Assassin (Slayer), Eldritch Knight (Fighter), Mammoth Rider (Cavalier), Pathfinder Chronicler (Bard), Winter Witch (Witch), and so on.

My major issue with PrCs is that they halt 99% of your progress for your base class(es). Most of them add one level in a spellcasting class, but I haven't seen a SINGLE one with "+1 level of fighter/rogue/monk class".

Mortal Usher
Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder :) Came out at the very last moment though...

Evangelist as well, as long as you keep your Obedience up.


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Dragon78 wrote:
With that many you would need a archetype unchained hardcover book;)

In that same vein, since my newest character is an unchained monk...

They released him incompatible with any of the regular monk archetypes and then only made a handful of the monk archetypes compatible. Some of the cooler Monk archetypes are forever on the underwhelmingly weak regular monk.