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Cori Marie wrote:

You're not being forced to buy the PDF to get the module, you get the PDF as an addition to buying the module. You may think that that's just semantics, but it's actually how it is.

Relevant Text In Product Description wrote:

Note: Purchasing Pathfinder Adventure Path: Abomination Vaults (Foundry VTT) qualifies you to purchase the following product*:

Pathfinder Adventure Path: Abomination Vaults PDF

And the price of that product when you purchase the Abomination Vaults (Foundry VTT) module is $0. You are being given the PDF for free, the price of the Foundry Module is $59.99. The price of the PDF on it's own is $38.99. If you purchased the PDF separately, they do grant you a discount on the Foundry Module, but you are NOT required to do so, and presenting it as such is disingenous.

We've been over this. Foundry gets $21 always. Always. Paizo gets $39 or zero. They don't just give you the PDF, you either buy it with foundry or you own it already. That's not disingenuous. Bye.


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Cori Marie wrote:
People still had to work on that "minimal" difference. There are formatting changes. There's errata. There's new art. It's not the same product just because you think it is.

It's not fair to force people to buy the minimally different product in order to get the foundry module just because you think it is.

Honestly, everyone knows your opinion by now. A lot of people disagree with that opinion. People's logic on the matter is sound even though you disagree with it. We hope for better policies in the future. Move along.


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Elfteiroh wrote:
You also don't get the hardcover's PDF even if you own all the PDFs of the original release of Abomination Vault. There have been people working on making that compilation. New layouts, new changes, new editing passes, new copyfiting, new art. Paizo still need to pay these peoples, and buying that module gives you the PDF if you didn't have it.

True, and I would assume the number of prior owners who are willing to purchase the new PDF solely because of a couple added pieces of art and one updated encounter is relatively small.


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Cori Marie wrote:
It is literally the same policy they've had regarding collected editions for over ten years at this point. If you owned the PDF's of the individual copies for Rise of the Runelords, you didn't get a discount on the Rise of the Runelords package for Fantasy Grounds. If you owned the PDFs of Curse of the Crimson Throne's single issues you didn't get a discount on the Curse of the Crimson Throne package on Fantasy Grounds. Because ultimately, they are different products and we live in a capitalistic society.

I've LiTeRaLlY seen this response from you several times and each time you ignore the fact that the anniversary editions of RotRL and CotCT are significantly different products than their individual parts. Both were updated from 3.5 to 1e and had additional changes from years of experience with the APs. They are very different products and consumers recognize that. This situation is perceived differently because there is minimal difference between owning the original 3 pdfs and the single file.


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Cori Marie wrote:
Agorg wrote:
Cthulhusquatch wrote:
I have the original 3 pdfs. I have the collected version pdf. I assure you that they are different products.
This is so disingenuous. If someone has the three original pdfs and wants to run the Foundry module, they do not need to buy the collected version pdf. $39 for a few new pieces of art and some errata? Please.
Again, you're NOT buying the collected version PDF. You are buying the FOUNDRY MODULE which comes WITH a free copy of the the PDF. There is a very clear distinction there. If you buy the PDF separately, you STILL need to buy the Founcry module, you would just get a discount on it in that case.

They are buying the collected version of the pdf though. When someone buys the foundry module, foundry gets a cut and paizo gets a cut. Since the price if someone already bought the pdf is $21, we know that foundry's cut is about $21. Whether people pay $21 or $60, foundry is still getting $21. No one is supporting the good people at foundry more by paying a higher price, they're supporting paizo... again. People are basically repurchasing $40 worth of product with negligible difference from what they already own and that feels bad. I'm personally not affected by this and I agree it is an unfriendly policy call.


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Also, is it just me or did anyone else get hopeful/excited that JJ is posting on here and didn't flat out say they would not be doing anymore hardcovers?


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Here's hoping for the accompanying Gogmurt! A caster goblin would round out our goblin hordes nicely.


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Does anyone still have these files? I would love to have them. brocimusmaximus at yahoo dot com. Sorry to reopen an old thread.