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Will it be available globally? Getting some not available in your region message - however maybe it is an issue of release date.


Or you can use Foundry and avoid all these issues…… luckily.


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Pathbuilder is free (or adfree and with advanced options very cheap) - continuously updated and awesome.


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Having played Eartthdawn - flying is not often an issue. I know I also played PF campaigns where individual characters had flight early on.

In my experience the situation where a single character having flight creates significant issues in a campaign is quite limited. (Provided they can’t carry others…). Of course it depends on the GM and campaign - but it is manageable in my experience.


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I would welcome golems which have more flavour to them. We know paizo can do it - they have done it in PF1 like for the Tophet.


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Wishing everyone the freedom to be who they want to be, be open about it, and take pride in it, wherever they are.

I do applaud Paizo for supporting this in their publications. Will we see a Blog Post on this?


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I am going to leave this one here (courtesy of Hillary Moon Murphy).

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs43ip8?How-we-can-disagree-without-being-disagr eeable


Kobold Catgirl wrote:

I've noticed the pivot to PG-13, too. I have complicated feelings about the move; I think it's great for making the hobby easier to, say, introduce your family to, and there's still plenty of neat, edgy stuff here, but we definitely lost something cool and unique of its own. I wouldn't mind it so much if it was clearer that PFI creations were allowed to take it a tidge further.

I also don't know that I mind the current ogres much, though I can see why some would. If the lore's uncomfortable for your table, you can always write your own. Ogres aren't a major part of Golarion. They're easy to avoid. I definitely don't think every creature and rules element in the game should be written to fit every table's comfort levels. If we did that, Calistria and Arshea probably wouldn't exist.

I am also of two minds here. On the one hand I want it to be a game I can introduce my kids to. On the other hand I also play with my friends and (once in a while) some more grizzly topics are interesting - also because it gives something clear to fight. (We get enough gray tones in RL).

Maybe it would be an idea for Paizo to have a line of less PG-13 books - like a Bestiary, etc.

Now I don’t need a “Book of Vile Darkness” but just some none PG-13 would be fine - in particular in separate books.


So far most of it seems good to very good. I admit my position is also based on the fact that on the monster and ancestry side the new Golarion is closer to my own setting - so it makes my life easier.

I am a bit on the fence on the wizard changes - I think the school changes make sense - but am worried they may end up nerfing wizards more (even though they are somewhat weak already…..) - but that might just be pessimism.

But I think PF2.5 (considering we are at 2.1 or 2.2 already) will be an improvement.


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Thanks for all the clarity and transparency James.

While I feel somewhat for the Fall of the Drow, my home made setting already made serpentfolk the dominant underempire, so it does not affect me negatively. (And then you also publishing centaurs and Minotaurs in the same year - almost feels like you are personally catering to me …..).

However I do feel for the people who are losing “their” Drow - but hope they can adjust and understand that this is part of the further evolution of Pathfinder away from its D&D origins into its own thing.


Love this - in particular as my setting already had Minotaurs and Centaurs - and making them (more easily) playable is awesome!

I’m general love the updates and info.


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It effectively is an edition change indeed (at least similar to a 3.0
to 3.5) between alignment changes, class changes, ancestry changes - even if the backwards comparability and transitioned change are clearly made to make it more palatable and a bit lighter (you can keep using your adventures and setting books).

However I agree them beating about the bush about it does not work so well. Just own up to this. Transparency beats politics / marketing in the long run……


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Sibelius Eos Owm wrote:

The schools I recall the names of:

School of Battle Magic
School of Civic [Engineering?]
School of the Protean Form
School of Unified Magical Theory

I partly wonder if any of these schools are going to be tied to actual physical locations in the world, or if for example the Korvosan Academae will have within it several schools of magic taught, while maybe omitting others. It seems like a School of Battle Magic is something that could be taught at any military college around the world since everyone has utility for blowing stuff up, while maybe certain other schools are more unique to certain regions.

The system/principle seems to be very much what “the Dark Eye” has done for decades - however as I liked that very much I also like this change.

Have other schools (besides the 4 above) been mentioned already?


Thanks so much for the detailed answer and explanation. Still sounds very interesting, even if it does mean I’ll have to hold out for the Pacific islands oriented books for a while more…….


I am sorry to hear that. It is difficult to judge the “why” for your personal situation and I don’t know where you live.

However, Role players are like all people are a mixed bunch. Depending on where you are at, it might be a group of old friends, fanatical power players, a very open an friendly bunch, a lot of antisocial figures, amateur thespians, people mainly socializing with a game as an excuse or anything else or in between.

Not all groups (or game stores) are friendly regrettably. Hopefully one location does not irreversibly turn you away from gaming and I do hope you eventually find a group / place that is more open and friendly. There is the risk that the one game store (and the groups based out of it) have a certain “culture” that is less than friendly to say the least….(like tends to attract like….)

I know in my area we have multiple groups, actual gaming clubs, an organization organizing a small gaming con every 2 months etc…. all providing (different) options. Hope you also find something for you.


That is great to hear, thanks!


Looks great - will the Tian Xia (and related) books also cover Pacific Islander inspired regions? While seeing Asia inspired regions done well is great - I admit I would be even more excited for Pacific Islands inspired regions….


What I am a hearing is that it is mainly a mismatch between players and not the system perse. However, Pathfinder is a system that is particularly developed for combat - so the intuitive approach is to take violent solutions.

Other games (I loved the Dark Eye - but admit I played it mainly in German) have more developed skill systems, more risky (consequential) combat and wounds, so there people tend to avoid violent solutions more…….


magnuskn wrote:
Adopting the metric system would be dope.

Fully agreed - or at least include both measurements. Although u admit that for many intents and purposes I consider feet and inches as generic fantasy measurements these days…..


Do you want to ride the dragon? Because a kobold can also learn to fly by itself? I have been looking into this build as well…….

I would make sure your breath weapons (if selected) target a different save (reflex and fort), different type of damage, etc.

I would use the kobold to not be in close combat too much. The dragon can do draconic frenzy (and opportunity attacks). Take the marauder dragon…..

Consider getting the electric arc cantrip.

I do admit though that we do get to play with free archetype - so the feat hunger is less of an issue…..


blammit wrote:
gesalt wrote:
Kinda weird that repeating hand crossbow is rated so low when unconventional weaponry (RHC) is available through drow culture and together with paired shots produces one of the stronger bases for gunslinger builds on the market.

I hadn't considered that. I suppose there is a mechanical basis for it with the drow shootist archetype. I'll add them in the appropriate sections.

gesalt wrote:
Way agnostic.
I disagree here. Vanguard and Triggerbrand lose out on a lot of their kits with RHCs.

Repeating handcrossbow makes paired shot and the like great. It might be the only feasible two (ranged) weapon build. And while it eventually requires a reload - repeating 5 is still great.


I tried finding this; however do the speed penalties of a tower (or fortress) shields and heavy armor worn by a rider also impact the speed of a mount?


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I would say providing explicit options for representation is good. How you handle eg prosthetics, chairs, etc. would be for the GM to discuss with the players.

Some players may indeed not want these to be impacted at all by the game (as they have plenty of struggles irl) and others may consider having to contend with the (temporary) loss of an aid to be part of the story.

In the end it is for the player to indicate what they are comfortable with when it comes to that - not for others to assume.


I think that new classes in Lost Omens books are high unlikely based on precedent. I think archetypes are the more likely solution to give a cultural flavor to (multiple) classes.

Also most classes are (to me) generic enough culturally to allow them to be placed in different settings.

Anyway we’ll see how it works out - I trust Paizo on this one.

I would like some source showing what is common vs. uncommon in a setting though. And perhaps we do need something that tailors starting weapon proficiencies for rogue and wizard (but that is more because the “named” weapon list approach was poorly future proofed from the start…..)


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Well - it is only the stuff under their brand (which includes infinite). You can still use other routes and include AI art - just not under the Pathfinder brand…. which is their prerogative.


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Great to hear this. If it anywhere near as inspired as Mwangi expanse it will be great. And it is great to have a diverse crowd of authors - to ensure we also get to experience a more diverse game world - really awesome!


Could someone who has the book post the details of the barricade buster? Wanted to see how it fit a character concept I was working on…..


Pathbuilder - it is great, up-to-date, mostly free (well except companions and dual class), cheap even in you buy it and no need to subscribe of pay for additional sources.

No choice….


Good to know - thanks. I admit I did not have the patience to look at all the descriptions (other than the table) in the video….. guess I’ll have to await the book.


The Treasure Vault preview does make me wonder which bows count as crossbows for the gunslinger. Many look like crossbows - but (to my knowledge) it is not a separate weapon group - so hard to adjucate….


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I do think a morality clause would be a bad (and hard to enforce) idea.
Morality is so subjective and so dependent on culture, country (in the US even in states…) and local law.

What is considered moral and legal in West Virginia would be considered illegal in more developed countries (and vice versa). And then I am not even talking about what constitutes morality in countries like Qatar. Let’s please stay away from “morality” in the ORC.


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The is also the battle zoo ancestries dragon if you are open to using that.


Lots of swarm related archetypes, spells, companions, etc.

Expanded guns & gears - with more archetypes, innovations, technology.

Something maritime focused.


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Mine switched to my own language automatically - but I can read German so if helpful can try and help. However it is hard to test how to change an adress as mine got delivered already.

However as far as I could see you could go to DHL.com select France and enter the tracking code they provided (I did get my delivery status that way….).


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Hope everyone gets their package still before Christmas. My package has arrived yesterday evening - very nice books.


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I actually got my shipping confirmation - so it may (should…) still arrive before Christmas. Looking forward to doing some reading over the holidays …. thanks for all the updates and follow-up.


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I admit I like the flavor of 16th and 17th century history - and think it is in any case closer to what most RPGs aim to emulate. Guns are part of that flavor to me. I tend to introduce traits that make guns more accessible (ancestry feats or backgrounds) so that they are used a bit more.

The reload mechanic still keeps them suboptimal as a main weapon for anyone but a gunslinger - but this makes them a preferred ranged weapon.


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For me 5e had the (way) better 3rd party support - with truly awesome settings and books (of course it is a fraction of all 5e books - but they are there). From something inspired by pre colonial Philippines to the Silk Road - and much more. The massive market has made that possible.

I also like the system for players who are less into complex rules: 5e is much more of a simple system with limited character options.

Pathfinder is what I play with my friends who have gamed (almost) weekly for 20 years. 5E is what I use for gaming with my kids, and GM for my players who play every 2 months…..


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Thanks - but please take your days off to enjoy the holiday with your family!


Ah that is great. Will do!


Ah thanks - I’ll await 29 November street date or the archives of nethys update - whatever arrives first.


Which new way? Apparently I missed something…. or it is in impossible lands - which is not available here yet.


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Thanks for the update Jim. While it is frustrating to see the delays - your prompt responses are appreciated.


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Gnomatsu wrote:
Still no EU shipping details? I can order and have it arrive from Amazon to Ireland by tomorrow. Kind of frustrating.

Yeah here as well. Even if order from Germany it arrives tomorrow……… but still no news.


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As the last update on EU is one month old. Anything news on delivery? Has been awfully quiet….


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True……. which would be a drawback. I might actually want to get the foundry module eventually - so it would help there.

Still it is massively annoying how paizo “supports” European customers over the last years (decade maybe even?) somehow they are either unwilling or unable to improve.


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I find it massively disappointing that still nothing concrete on a delivery date for Europe - 2 months (approx) down the road.

However if I order from Amazon (in Germany …. You know where the shipping of the Kickstarter would come from) it arrives tomorrow.

It is becoming a farce…….. at least it confirms not to buy or preorder via Paizo directly.


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Crappy service from Paizo. Complete disregard for international customers - after delayed completion of the Kingmaker crowdfunding you are now selling the product before delivering it to your backers. No message on delivery in Europe yet.

About the crappiest service of a gaming company possible. I love some of your products (Mwangi expanse, and impossible lands looks promising) - but this project is truly horribly managed.


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Luckily I never buy PDF. It does appear strange that PDFs will now be as expensive as actual physical copies if you look for a somewhat discounted seller. However in any case Paizo direct sales were non competitive outside of the US so impact is minimal.

It does make me wonder why they can’t deliver the same service and quality level as eg Free League (Vaesen is truly a work of beauty) - which being in Sweden should be at least as expensive. However if the money goes to improving wages and their international distribution system - the price change would be of value.

For Kingmaker I find it painful that they will ship to US non-backers while we still await the deliveries in Europe…. but their disregards of anyone not in the US has become part of their business model….


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I assume Paizo won’t have the audacity to start taking orders until they have fullfilled the Kickstarter. It is still awfully quiet for the non-US markets….

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