Having played Eartthdawn - flying is not often an issue. I know I also played PF campaigns where individual characters had flight early on. In my experience the situation where a single character having flight creates significant issues in a campaign is quite limited. (Provided they can’t carry others…). Of course it depends on the GM and campaign - but it is manageable in my experience.
Kobold Catgirl wrote:
I am also of two minds here. On the one hand I want it to be a game I can introduce my kids to. On the other hand I also play with my friends and (once in a while) some more grizzly topics are interesting - also because it gives something clear to fight. (We get enough gray tones in RL). Maybe it would be an idea for Paizo to have a line of less PG-13 books - like a Bestiary, etc. Now I don’t need a “Book of Vile Darkness” but just some none PG-13 would be fine - in particular in separate books.
So far most of it seems good to very good. I admit my position is also based on the fact that on the monster and ancestry side the new Golarion is closer to my own setting - so it makes my life easier. I am a bit on the fence on the wizard changes - I think the school changes make sense - but am worried they may end up nerfing wizards more (even though they are somewhat weak already…..) - but that might just be pessimism. But I think PF2.5 (considering we are at 2.1 or 2.2 already) will be an improvement.
Thanks for all the clarity and transparency James. While I feel somewhat for the Fall of the Drow, my home made setting already made serpentfolk the dominant underempire, so it does not affect me negatively. (And then you also publishing centaurs and Minotaurs in the same year - almost feels like you are personally catering to me …..). However I do feel for the people who are losing “their” Drow - but hope they can adjust and understand that this is part of the further evolution of Pathfinder away from its D&D origins into its own thing.
It effectively is an edition change indeed (at least similar to a 3.0
However I agree them beating about the bush about it does not work so well. Just own up to this. Transparency beats politics / marketing in the long run……
Sibelius Eos Owm wrote:
The system/principle seems to be very much what “the Dark Eye” has done for decades - however as I liked that very much I also like this change. Have other schools (besides the 4 above) been mentioned already?
I am sorry to hear that. It is difficult to judge the “why” for your personal situation and I don’t know where you live. However, Role players are like all people are a mixed bunch. Depending on where you are at, it might be a group of old friends, fanatical power players, a very open an friendly bunch, a lot of antisocial figures, amateur thespians, people mainly socializing with a game as an excuse or anything else or in between. Not all groups (or game stores) are friendly regrettably. Hopefully one location does not irreversibly turn you away from gaming and I do hope you eventually find a group / place that is more open and friendly. There is the risk that the one game store (and the groups based out of it) have a certain “culture” that is less than friendly to say the least….(like tends to attract like….) I know in my area we have multiple groups, actual gaming clubs, an organization organizing a small gaming con every 2 months etc…. all providing (different) options. Hope you also find something for you.
What I am a hearing is that it is mainly a mismatch between players and not the system perse. However, Pathfinder is a system that is particularly developed for combat - so the intuitive approach is to take violent solutions. Other games (I loved the Dark Eye - but admit I played it mainly in German) have more developed skill systems, more risky (consequential) combat and wounds, so there people tend to avoid violent solutions more…….
Do you want to ride the dragon? Because a kobold can also learn to fly by itself? I have been looking into this build as well……. I would make sure your breath weapons (if selected) target a different save (reflex and fort), different type of damage, etc. I would use the kobold to not be in close combat too much. The dragon can do draconic frenzy (and opportunity attacks). Take the marauder dragon….. Consider getting the electric arc cantrip. I do admit though that we do get to play with free archetype - so the feat hunger is less of an issue…..
blammit wrote:
Repeating handcrossbow makes paired shot and the like great. It might be the only feasible two (ranged) weapon build. And while it eventually requires a reload - repeating 5 is still great.
I would say providing explicit options for representation is good. How you handle eg prosthetics, chairs, etc. would be for the GM to discuss with the players. Some players may indeed not want these to be impacted at all by the game (as they have plenty of struggles irl) and others may consider having to contend with the (temporary) loss of an aid to be part of the story. In the end it is for the player to indicate what they are comfortable with when it comes to that - not for others to assume.
I think that new classes in Lost Omens books are high unlikely based on precedent. I think archetypes are the more likely solution to give a cultural flavor to (multiple) classes. Also most classes are (to me) generic enough culturally to allow them to be placed in different settings. Anyway we’ll see how it works out - I trust Paizo on this one. I would like some source showing what is common vs. uncommon in a setting though. And perhaps we do need something that tailors starting weapon proficiencies for rogue and wizard (but that is more because the “named” weapon list approach was poorly future proofed from the start…..)
I do think a morality clause would be a bad (and hard to enforce) idea.
What is considered moral and legal in West Virginia would be considered illegal in more developed countries (and vice versa). And then I am not even talking about what constitutes morality in countries like Qatar. Let’s please stay away from “morality” in the ORC.
Mine switched to my own language automatically - but I can read German so if helpful can try and help. However it is hard to test how to change an adress as mine got delivered already. However as far as I could see you could go to DHL.com select France and enter the tracking code they provided (I did get my delivery status that way….).
I admit I like the flavor of 16th and 17th century history - and think it is in any case closer to what most RPGs aim to emulate. Guns are part of that flavor to me. I tend to introduce traits that make guns more accessible (ancestry feats or backgrounds) so that they are used a bit more. The reload mechanic still keeps them suboptimal as a main weapon for anyone but a gunslinger - but this makes them a preferred ranged weapon.
For me 5e had the (way) better 3rd party support - with truly awesome settings and books (of course it is a fraction of all 5e books - but they are there). From something inspired by pre colonial Philippines to the Silk Road - and much more. The massive market has made that possible. I also like the system for players who are less into complex rules: 5e is much more of a simple system with limited character options. Pathfinder is what I play with my friends who have gamed (almost) weekly for 20 years. 5E is what I use for gaming with my kids, and GM for my players who play every 2 months…..
I find it massively disappointing that still nothing concrete on a delivery date for Europe - 2 months (approx) down the road. However if I order from Amazon (in Germany …. You know where the shipping of the Kickstarter would come from) it arrives tomorrow. It is becoming a farce…….. at least it confirms not to buy or preorder via Paizo directly.
Crappy service from Paizo. Complete disregard for international customers - after delayed completion of the Kingmaker crowdfunding you are now selling the product before delivering it to your backers. No message on delivery in Europe yet. About the crappiest service of a gaming company possible. I love some of your products (Mwangi expanse, and impossible lands looks promising) - but this project is truly horribly managed.
Luckily I never buy PDF. It does appear strange that PDFs will now be as expensive as actual physical copies if you look for a somewhat discounted seller. However in any case Paizo direct sales were non competitive outside of the US so impact is minimal. It does make me wonder why they can’t deliver the same service and quality level as eg Free League (Vaesen is truly a work of beauty) - which being in Sweden should be at least as expensive. However if the money goes to improving wages and their international distribution system - the price change would be of value. For Kingmaker I find it painful that they will ship to US non-backers while we still await the deliveries in Europe…. but their disregards of anyone not in the US has become part of their business model….
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