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Dancing Wind wrote:

Only if you agree to it Only if you want to keep earning income.

Essentially anyone who has IP rights they don't want to donate to Hasbro will have to stop creating new material and can't sell any old material starting 48 hours from now.

No. That's what WotC want you to believe. That is far from likely to be upheld in court.

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There is a lengthy thread over on ENWorld where several lawyers have opined on the matter of the nOGL 1.1

https://www.enworld.org/threads/hello-i-am-lawyer-with-a-psa-almost-everyon e-is-wrong-about-the-ogl-and-srd-clearing-up-confusion.694192/

It's worth a read to get a better understanding of the possibilities.

Edit: Heh, I see someone else has brought that thread up.

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What 5e support from Paizo? Sweet! I hope this becomes a trend.

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I think the OP's suggesting og having both would be the best for most people.

Personally, I've grumbled since early 3.0 that they should have went with 1 square = 1m/yd. (like the Fuzion RPGs did). Yes, I know that there's a bit of a difference between the two, but they're close enough for game purposes and the difference would be irrelevant as one would use either the metric or the Imperial system. Heck, there's even a slight basis for it in D&D—AD&D used yards for outdoor measurements.

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Arssanguinus wrote:
... politics ... please stop.

There was nothing political about that.

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Hey, it's been a while since I was on these boards. I kinda dropped off the face of the Earth sometime during the playtest of PF 1e (and came back into gaming with the playtest of D&D 5e). I just heard the news about PF getting a new edition, so I decided to pop back on.

Despite the fact that I'm happy with D&D 5e, I just wanted to come back and wish Paizo success with the new edition. Paizo's always been a great company with great people, and has always made great quality products, so I'm wishing you the very best.

I hope that 2e is not only a financial success, but is also a hit with existing fans and brings in new blood, too.

Best wishes!

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Mikaze wrote:
Gurubabaramalamaswami wrote:
So once again...how about outing the gay iconic?
Though I'm still pulling for Harsk....

So am I. Between Valeros, Lem, Ezren and Harsk, I think Hark would be the most interesting choice. Valeros would be too easy (besides, he'd be more interesting as hetero and very sexually frustrated), Lem is a halfling, and while Ezren's not a bad candidate, having it be Harsk would just fly in the face of both dwarven and gay male sterotypes (in a good and necessary way).

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Selk wrote:
For example, the human Desna and elven Desna could have a different appearances, lore, relationships with other gods (to the elves, she's Lemashtu's sister?) and even domains -- but still be the same god. Heck, elven Desna could have a demigod child, whereas human Desna does not. Sounds like the foundation for a gool ol' fashioned religious war. It’s these paradoxes and interpretations that make religion interesting. For me, anyway.

See, personally, I feel that this is the way to go.

The one thing that I dislike about Greyhawk (and this is applicable with the Forgotten Realms, as well) is the amount of deities and the different pantheons for each culture and race (with several miscellaneous gods to boot).

Compare with the real world.... The Greek, Vedic, Norse, Celtic, Slavic, etc. pantheons are essentially variations on the original pantheon worshiped by the Proto-Indo-European speakers (almost unrecognizably different from each other and the original because of the different paths of cultural and linguistic evolution, as well as the assimilation of ideas from other cultures). Even across linguistic/cultural boundaries, analogues between gods were usually sought (for instance, between the Greeks and the Egyptians, Hermes and Thoth were viewed as the same god). So, sticking with a core group of deities is actually rather intelligent and segues well with real world expectations. Besides, with deities that are provably real in D&D it becomes even more unnecessary to have separate gods for each culture/race. It kinda gets a bit crowded (and quite silly) when there are 15 different solar deities, 15 fertility deities, 12 war deities, etc.

Each culture should have its own name for each of the deities, may view the deity as a different gender than does another cultures, and may not even recognize some deities (as it isn’t present in their pantheon) or have deities that other cultures may not recognize, and even have different mythologies surrounding them. So while Jorag, for example, may be worshiped by dwarves as a masculine deity called Džolak, another culture may view Jorag as a feminine deity and call her Zhorah.

The way I see it, the “Core 20" should be the most commonly worshiped deities (regardless of cultural boundaries), with their most broadly known names (and gender representations).

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Matthew Morris wrote:
Has the Tu'Lung connection mentioned in fate of Istus been retconned? Always led to much teasing of our greyhawk historian, but of late I've developed a dislike for it myself

Considering that that connection was, itself, a 2nd-edition retcon , it is typically dismissed from GH "cannon" by almost all GH players (in fact, it was ignored and dismissed by the later The Scarlet Brotherhood accessory).

Robert Brambley wrote:
Thanks guys, I greatly appreciate the input. So I take it that not all members of the Suel race cling to the Scarlet Brotherhood ideals? Just as not all germans would be considered "Nazis." I imagine Suel as a player race and only certain members of this race have these intolerant elitist tendencies?

It should be clarified that the Suel (or Suloise) are one of many human ethnic derivations in the world of Greyhawk. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suloise

And, no, not all Suloise are predisposed towards the SB or their goals. Many, especially good-aligned and mix-blooded Suloise, would be aghast if they knew the true goal of the Brotherhood.

Robert Brambley wrote:

Hmmmm, I now must figure out how much of the Ideals of The Scarlet Brotherhood are needed in order for the campaign to be successful - well more appropriately the need for them be Suel (or Suel-ish); as I do not have a race of persons who are similar to the Suel in my campaign world - at least none that resemble powerfully innately arcane; the history of my world is that is only recently underwent a major cataclysm that actually thrust the world out of a dark age that saw little magic or no magic. The races are all descendants of primarily warrior nations. Magic has only recently become prevalent and lawful to be used.

How bad would changing the Scarlet Brotherhood to be a group of elitists who were primarily warrior driven as opposed to an inately magical race?

For your setting, your Suloise equivalent doesn't need to be highly magical--any human ethnic group intent on racial purity, world domination and the enslavement/destruction of non-their-ethnic-group individuals.

The members of the Scarlet Brotherhood tend to be rogues, assassins and monks (the monks are the highest caste, politically, in the group).