GM DarkLightHitomi wrote: Don't expect an AI GM to need to be too strict. I'm currently in preproduction on a game that will have a very flexible ability to run modules. The flexibility achievable just by me alone is high. I can't imagine what a big studio could achieve if they actually tried. BTW, if you want to see such a game made faster and better, I'm always looking for help. I played a scenario once where we concentrated so hard on one little detail from the briefing that we got to 4 hours without even hitting the first scripted encounter, with the GM making stuff up on the fly and the players enjoying themselves immensely. It's going to be a while before machine learning can duplicate that.
AnimatedPaper wrote: actually, I suppose Disney would have incentive to sue Hasbro into tiny tiny pieces regardless of the actual issue at hand, so who knows. At which point Hasbro say to Disney "here's a royalty free licence for you to keep selling your stuff", which Disney accept while Hasbro go after everybody else. Don't expect the Mouse to do anything for the benefit of anybody else
Caydens Designated Driver wrote: Maybe something like removing the original posts but letting replies that don't violate ToS stay up with the banned tag on the OP being referenced ? Problem there is that, as far as I can tell, quoting is purely a textual thing with no actual reference back to the quoted user, so adding the tag to each quote would be a manual job
Kobold Catgirl wrote: I think calling Andy a chud is extremely uncalled for, but I also think the comparison was enormously inappropriate to the point of being disrespectful. Thanks for that. I'll hold my hand up and say I could have worded my disagreement in a less inflammatory way. I'm not convinced it would have stopped the pile-on for disagreeing though. Quote: Every single website I've ever been to labels posters who've been banned. And places I've been have deleted the account. Different experiences, or maybe a generational change. Quote: How could a simple "banned" marker possibly lead to toxicity towards an unpleasant poster? I've been around long enough to see choice of font lead to toxicity... Kobold Catgirl in a different post wrote: Deleting the account isn't just technically difficult and legally dubious--it has an unpleasant side effect of sweeping things under the rug. I'll give you that as a side effect, but it's about the same as deleting offensive posts when it comes to sweeping stuff under the rug. Quote: More seriously, it also means the mods have to delete every single post from that user. Imagine if you got banned, and the mods had to delete every single post you'd ever made, and modify every thread you'd ever posted in to ensure it remained legible. Logistically, the labor alone makes it infeasible. Deleting all of a user's posts should be one simple database command (alternatively it ought to be possible to use a simple command to change the text of the posts to indicate the user has been banned). Again I'm assuming stuff about the website backend which may not be true. But you're right about it needing a horrible amount of manual work to get rid of quotes of those posts.
Sussy_Shroom wrote: When someone points me in the direction of something inappropriate and inflammatory, I believe them. The problem here is that the really inappropriate stuff (and the people posting it) was removed a while back (before your first post on the boards), so it's a bit difficult to show it to you. Which is convenient for your decision to ignore the people who have been targeted by it
NECR0G1ANT wrote:
I did. And I've now been back through stuff on my PC (rather than tablet), and the June 2016 AR is where the text was added, as follows Quote: As of June 10, 2016, slaves are no longer available for purchase.
Hilary Moon Murphy wrote: I still don't think I can personally tell a bigot that they are a bigot -- that's my personal hangup. I am more likely to post on a terrible post: "Flagged. Hate has no home here." That's possibly because you're nicer than some of us (me, for instance). :) Everybody needs to find a level of response that they're comfortable with, and a simple response like that is better than no response if you want to show visible support. You've been one of the clearest voices calling for *sensible* responses, and trying to keep the forums welcoming, while also being a lot nicer than many when somebody suggests you're not as blunt as the rest of us. (which brings me back to my first point about niceness :))
vagrant-poet wrote: Some people see bold as shouting, some people see ot as emphasis, or grammar, depending on how your internet patois developed. And when. Some of us started before all this fancy formatting stuff; I still use * and / for bold and italic emphasis. Quote: I generally think it's best not to assume people are shouting if you see bold, it could be lots of things. The internet is a hodge podge of micro cultural pidgins. Yeah, this.
Umbral Reaver wrote: I'm unable to view birdsite due to PTSD. What's going on? Very, very, brief summary is that customer service and community management are very different skill sets, with CS focussing on solving problems for individual customers, and CM focussing on building the whole community in a positive way and also needing to learn how to spot the bad actors. There's some extra bits on how unfair it is to expect CS to do CM without training and a support network, and how a single community manager may not be able to identify all the different bad actors and dog whistles, just because of how many different angles those things come from[ninja'd again]
Sometimes you're not trying to convince the troll, and you're not really even posting for the troll to see it; sometimes you're posting so anybody else watching sees it, to show that what's been posted isn't acceptable, and to show support for the (other) targets of the trolling. You'll almost never convince the troll to change their mind, but sometimes you'll convince a lurker to change theirs.
Rysky wrote:
And as an action taken where necessary to stop things getting worse, it's fine. But a couple of people have been saying they should routinely lock sections of the forums when CS staff aren't available, and that's just going to lead to some of us not being able to make a meaningful contribution.
Vasemir wrote: Closing the forum "for the night" is everything BUT inclusive, considering that most of the world is in completely different time zones. Except for violence, it's hard to imagine more discriminatory action than making some people unable to discuss meaningful topic. Full agreement with this.
Hilary Moon Murphy wrote: I am troubled by the concept of calling other forumites bigots. I can see calling out their actions or posts as bigoted, but... If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, I don't see the problem with calling it a water fowl. Quote: And hey, you're correct that I may be coming from a privileged enough background where I can see something nasty and just flag it and move on. And I may be a bit on edge because my national broadcasting company has just platformed a transphobe who then went on to call for all trans women to be lynched (and named some specific people who should be first). To reference a different post, transphobic posts are a call for violence, so they're going to get flagged and challenged.And I'm concentrating on transphobia here, because that's what we're currently seeing more of, rather than most other bigotry
Zexcir wrote:
We'd very much like them to show that they've learned *this time*. this is about the 3rd time we've been through this sort of thing since PF1 was released
Storm Dragon wrote:
When did it change to that from "does it mean anything if somebody clicks favorite on a bigoted post?", because that's where it started
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I really wish this forum did emojis (some survive posting, some don't)
Then she starts racking her brains trying to remember where she's seen the woman
John Whyte wrote: I made my post mostly for the poor overworked mods to be aware there are many reasons people don't join the community And if they're not joining because they're going to get banned for being transphobic, that's a win. I'm not sure which post you're referring to, because there have been more than one, but in several cases the only thing in the post being liked was a transphobic comment. And this whole thing is mostly brought up by the person who you're attempting to defend, in an attempt to deflect various threads, and play the victim.
Heh. Double-ninja'd
"Block user" functionality is a great way of protecting your own mental health. The problem with it is that sometimes the user continues to post stuff that new users will see and think "it's OK to post that sort of thing here", which can turn the whole forum into an unsafe space. Personal block functions are useful as part of a moderation system that works to remove the bad actors.
thejeff wrote: A couple more days wouldn't have driven anyone away who hasn't already given up. That's not 100% accurate. Given the way certain posters have been taking advantage of lack of moderation at weekends and holidays, I'd just about decided to walk away today and not go through another weekend of it. But I'll be waiting until Monday to decide now.
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