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Paizo can say it’s not their fault all day long and I don’t care. We ordered through Paizo (even though they chose to fulfill through Amazon) — its Paizo’s job to ensure it happens.

As a military retiree, I wasn’t left off the hook because I got someone else assigned to a task — i was still ultimately responsible. We paid Paizo — they are ultimately responsible — any fault by Amazon (or anyone else) is STILL Paizo’s fault

MC1 Donald P. Rule, USN (Ret)
Retired U.S. Navy Journalist / Public Affairs Specialist

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Robyn LA VC - Retired wrote:

It sounds to me that Amazon is working their butts off getting these out. Is it as fast as we would like? No, but this is not Paizo's fault, and I am proud that they let us know the problem, rather than simply ignoring it and then responding to the fall out.

Paizo can say it’s not their fault all day long and I don’t care. We ordered through Paizo (even though they chose to fulfill through Amazon) — its Paizo’s job to ensure it happens.

As a military retiree, I wasn’t left off the hook because I got someone else assigned to a task — i was still ultimately responsible. We paid Paizo — they are ultimately responsible — any fault by Amazon (or anyone else) is STILL Paizo’s fault

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I’m so glad that we’re finally getting a universal base set. It never made any sense to make a base set for each adv path. So much more can be done w/ adv paths, modules, etc if they are expansions to the game.

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Velisruna wrote:

This will likely work almost exactly the same as current scenarios that reference earlier ones. In some scenarios the GM should check if the players have played X scenario and gotten Y boon on it (at least 3 off the top of my head, not including direct series) that reflect an interaction with a character or other plot element. It is not "metagamey;" it is continuity that would feel less immersive if it didn't exist. It could only be metagamey if you knew ahead of time it would be relevant and brought the character who played it before specifically to use the boon, and that's metagame I can live with. It would feel even worse to miss out on story or continuity just because I brought the wrong character. It also is unlikely to spoil anything since you are asked to pick boons AFTER the briefing. You will likely have a good idea that some plot element will come up again if it isn't directly stated in the briefing itself.

It is metagaming if, for example, the GM suggests we have a particular skill (or weapon type) which would be extremely helpful for, let's siay, kill a demon, which are not normally found in the area we are going to. To give any kind of hint like that is, by definition, metagaming.

And to miss out because you brought the wrong character? That's metagaming and min/maxing. RPGs are there to discover. If we fail because the party isn't right, so be it... but that's the thrill of RPGs.... we have to discover what we need to succeed. To already come in with pre-knowledge and prepared due to it, defeats the entire purpose of playing ... the same reasons a player replaying a scenario must not spill any beans., because it ruins the adventure for those who have never played it before.

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So far, I'm likeing the thought process of coming to decide on an easier way to use/remember Boons we've acquired; yet, I do have a couple of misgivings:

1. It really hurts that a boon I have acquired (especially after we've acquired several) will then make these rewards mostly a mute point. Having to only slot 6 is extremely restrictive (especially when you have boons that grant multiple boons). Now, instead of ignoring boons that really wouldn't help a particular character build, now I have to decide if I really want wo.rthwhile boons that will increasingly become obsolete over time and/or never used because I'm extremely limited on selection

2. After giving a briefing, the GM will then identify certain boons that may help in the scenario? We are now throwing the entire purpose of RPGing out the door and adding metagaming into a story of adventure and discovery. We dont play RPGs to have the GM or VO to then ruin the surprise by telling us what we should equip/slot that is completely outside of an in game/ RPG'd briefing. We mays as well quit PFS / SFS and switch to just the card game.

a. A character has been to Absolom Station before and built some renown with its citizens. Now I come back but because I really think I needed to slot a different social boon, I suddenly have no renown with the selected group in improve my negotiating skill rolls. That's rather preposterous and unrealistic. It's one thing if the Player forgets he had that boon but to have PFS Coordinators metagame our sudden brain fart -- really? That's how we want to proceed?

b. What we really need, as players, is:

I. A separate document/notes sumerizing our boons so that can be seen easier by the player.
II. Or, Paizo needs to ditch giving out so many boons that we will never, ever get a chance to use because we have been limited and forbidden to use said knowledge when needed as the boons we designed for .... time for Paizo to come up with an entirely new reward system because we are going to be absolutely cheated out of the use of those we get now

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Yes... They are charging more just because they are making a bigger issue for this ... Which I think is lame because instead of actually giving us more, they are instead throwing in a bunch of stuff from the past. I don't like paying more for something if all I'm getting is garbage added. Magazines don't raise their issue price to add extra special issue pages ... Especially when it's more of a review of the past.

The shipping side though.... Yes, we are getting ripped off. I have priority and they often place in a flat rate box but they charge me more than that. And the last couple months they stopped doing that for their own crap... Plus they use really cheap, pathetic styrofoam peanuts instead of something better. Hell, even these 'peanuts' are the cheapest 'peanuts' I've ever seen --- all tore apart by the time I get them and them a total hassle to clean up because they broke up into thousands of itty bitty pieces.... Never seen such pathetic 'peanuts' in my entire life.

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Bi-Monthly. We can't even get enough winning sessions to keep up. Our local shop traditionally sets up 1 2-hour session every two weeks just before PFS. Plus if you can't win and get the Scenario Reward you fall that much further redoing that scenario.

Personally there should be a base game. Then you have these AP Expansion Packs that you add to the base game for new/updated characters and theme-driven equipment. Then you have the AP Adventure packs out bi-Monthly and periodically release a separate Modual pack every few months to give something unique to plat with.

There is no reason to totally reinvent the base game every AP. Do we com out w/ a new Core RuleBook to replace the old one for an AP? No,

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Is there going to be a PFS Chronicle Sheet for this novel?