Pathfinder Society Preview: Redeeming Playtest Points

Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Shortly after the first whispers of a new edition of Pathfinder first started circulating, we knew that organized play would play a major role in playtesting. While our team's quite experienced at designing adventures, we swiftly realized there was one thing we stood no chance at creating in 2018: fair rewards for a game whose final form could change dramatically and unpredictably based on playtest results (to say nothing of our wanting tons of Chronicle sheet feedback, so we couldn't even create long-term character records).

Yet we also wanted to reward players and GMs alike—ideally in a way that was fun, yet didn't grant an insurmountable benefit to playtesters over those who joined the campaign later. From this came Playtest Points (PTP), a currency to spend on fun benefits in 2019 once the Second Edition rules were finalized—rules with which the organized play team could create new boons once the new campaign was ready to launch. As we get ever closer to releasing the new Pathfinder Society Guide to Play, scenarios, and more, it's now time to give a preview of what's coming for Playtest Points.

There are 14 rewards to look forward to, many of them inspired by the playtest adventures. We're expecting the store to go live the week before Gen Con, at which point you'll be able to redeem PTP for boons. One of these rewards you can only buy once, whereas the rest you can purchase multiple times if you're so inspired. Just be aware that 11 of these have scaling costs, with the first copy of the boon being fairly inexpensive and duplicates being available at a higher price.

Let's take a look at some of these rewards!

Experienced Adventurer (Limited-Use, Slotless): Whether you joined the Pathfinder Society after several independent adventures or you quickly surpassed your peers during training to become a Pathfinder agent, you're a capable explorer by the time you set out on your first official assignment. You can check the box that precedes this boon when creating a new character to begin that character at 2nd level with 12 XP, 12 Fame, 12 Reputation distributed between one or more factions, and 30 gp. Include this boon with the new character.

Initiate's Wayfinder (Slotless Boon): As part of your confirmation as a Pathfinder field agent, you received a wayfinder (Pathfinder Core Rulebook 617) to carry as both a badge of office and as a useful tool. This wayfinder has an effective price of 0 gp for the purpose of resale.

Emergency Draught (Item, Limited-Use): You almost always have a healing potion hidden away for an emergency. You gain the following action.
[two-actions] (manipulate) Frequency Once per adventure; Uses 3 ❑ ❑ ❑; Effect You search your gear and draw a minor healing potion in one hand. If you are at least 3rd level, you can instead draw a lesser healing potion. If you are at least 6th level, you can instead draw a moderate healing potion. If you are at least 12th level, you can instead draw a greater healing potion. If you are at least 18th level, you can instead draw a major healing potion. This potion lasts until the end of the adventure, after which it loses its potency. The potion's effective price if sold is 0 gp.

Red Flag Espionage (Social): You have experience with delicate social situations where a false move could antagonize a possible ally or accidentally endanger a comrade. When using Diplomacy to Make an Impression or Request, you critically fail the check if you fail the check DC by 12 or more (rather than failing by 10 or more). In addition, you gain the following reaction.
[reaction] (fortune) Uses 1 ❑; Trigger You critically fail a Diplomacy check; Effect You reroll the triggering check and must use the second result.

Being able to start a higher-level character—one who could still enjoy all of our Tier 1–4 scenarios—was one of the givens when we started planning Playtest Point rewards, and even if you'd rather start your first character at 1st level, the Experienced Adventurer boon above can give your second or third character a jumpstart. Meanwhile, the Initiate's Wayfinder is a great opportunity to pick up an otherwise pricey (at least for a 1st-level character) piece of equipment that's central to a Pathfinder agent's identity. Also, we'll be providing a similar option for wayfinders through other rewards, so playtesters aren't the only folks to enjoy this opportunity.

The Emergency Draught provides an extra edge in survivability when the going gets tough, and like many of these rewards, it's a Limited-Use boon that grants a playtester a temporary boost without giving a long-term advantage over newer players. Inspired by the Doomsday Dawn adventure “Red Flags”, the Red Flags Espionage boon shows how some of our boons grant a constant benefit while slotted while also giving a limited-use boost in an emergency.

And there are more rewards besides that you'll see in the coming weeks. When redemption goes live, you will find them all on a new tab on your “My Organized Play” page at paizo.com. There you can choose what rewards to purchase and which character to assign them to, plus a downloadable pdf certificate you can print or save to a digital device.

We're looking forward to all of the exciting characters you design come the launch of the new campaign on August 1st, and it'll be great to see these Playtest Point rewards in action!

John Compton
Organized Play Lead Developer

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The Exchange

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

WELL ITS HAPPENING!

I just looked at the My Organized Play page and it now has a tab called Boons! It also has all my Playtest Points, a box that says purchase for character, and the headings for name, description, price, point type, and Character. Its not functional yet, but Im very excited to see its there!

Grand Lodge

Bartram wrote:
How would you even find the GM or VC of some convention you went to 9 months ago? They are essentially just some random person by this point.

The PTP are secondary. As I told people I spoke to months ago they needed to check their reporting history to make sure everything was there so that when the points were fixed, they would catch up. Why are we waiting 9 months for something to be reported? I give two weeks for local events and a month for conventions. After that, I’m bugging the organizer where my records are. People have to realize that it’s nearly impossible to track down reporting errors 9 months later and even worse over a year. If a table is missing completely, it is next to impossible to fix a year later. With Achievement Points being the currency for boons moving forward it will be essential that GMs and organizers report their events as quickly as possible and personal responsibility is going to fall on GMs and players to make sure their events have been reported by checking their records regularly. Waiting months or more is likely to cost you points. This is one of the reasons we tell GMs at Gen Con to take a picture of their reporting sheets before they submit them. If a report is missed, we can always fix it later if they send us a copy of the picture.

There was a delay in getting the play test events listed in the reporting system but that was resolved back in December. I hate to say it, but for many people who are missing playtest points because their sessions weren’t recorded, they may be out of luck. I honestly don’t know how else to resolve it.


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Christian Dragos wrote:

I always make sure to introduce myself to a GM if we don't know each other. Not just in case a problem arises in the future but as a friendly gesture.

I find it odd that people don't know who the other people & GM were after 4 hours of sitting at the same table together and interacting all that time.

I've known people for years that I had to refer to by character name...

Grand Lodge

Marc Waschle wrote:

WELL ITS HAPPENING!

I just looked at the My Organized Play page and it now has a tab called Boons! It also has all my Playtest Points, a box that says purchase for character, and the headings for name, description, price, point type, and Character. Its not functional yet, but Im very excited to see its there!

I wonder if we have to wait until the 1st before we can start registering characters or if they'll have that activated early for those who already received the books. If I had to guess, I would expect it to go live when the Guide drops on the 29th

Paizo Employee Developer

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Keldin wrote:
Idle question: what about unreported playtests? We all know that about the issue with unreported scenarios - I have some that are years old and still unreported. In most cases, having the chronicle sheet is proof of play, and I have that (the log sheet) for the 2E playtest, but it sounds like that's going to be useless.

Send your unreported sessions to pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com and we'll look into it.

Grand Lodge

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Christian Dragos wrote:

I always make sure to introduce myself to a GM if we don't know each other. Not just in case a problem arises in the future but as a friendly gesture.

I find it odd that people don't know who the other people & GM were after 4 hours of sitting at the same table together and interacting all that time.

I've known people for years that I had to refer to by character name...

Haha! That's hilarious!

The Exchange

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

That is a happy thought I shall hold close to my heart Bahb! You are ever the optimist!


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Bob Jonquet wrote:
I give two weeks for local events and a month for conventions. After that, I’m bugging the organizer where my records are.

So... that's the time frame you want us to use for GenCon?

More seriously, with the significance of reporting in PFS(2) being what it will be, I would recommend that players ask to photograph the reporting sheet and, at cons at least, remind your GM to photograph them.

Grand Lodge

Blake's Tiger wrote:
So... that's the time frame you want us to use for GenCon?

Moving forward, all reporting issues should be submitted to pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com as indicated above. Some VCs are happy to fix reporting errors, but you'll have to check with your local VC directly as its a voluntary function, not required by their position.

If you are a GM, I strongly encourage you to take pictures of all your reporting sheets in case the sheet is lost or misreported. You can provide the picture to the address above to facilitate the fix.

Also, now that reporting generates Achievement Points that will be used for online boon acquisition, everyone should be checking their account regularly to make sure reporting is being completed and communicating with their local organizers ASAP if sessions are missing.

Dark Archive

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BigNorseWolf wrote:


I've known people for years that I had to refer to by character name...

I have an entire subset of friends made through MMOs and FPS games who I refer to all the time as their nicknames online, some of them I have to think long and hard about to actually remember their legal name.

Grand Lodge

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I prefer my nom de guerre when I'm in my Pathfinder space. It's like I have two separate identities.

Sczarni

Starfinder Charter Superscriber

I have my sheet with all of my GM signatures.

I'll just use that.

I've been doing Organized Play for 7 years. I know by now that having things online is a nice backup, but paper is what counts.


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Nefreet wrote:

I have my sheet with all of my GM signatures.

I'll just use that.

Big scribble loopyscribble back and forth scribble scribble below the line...

On the plus side you can hand it to a pharmacist and probably get something...

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nefreet wrote:

I have my sheet with all of my GM signatures.

I'll just use that.

Big scribble loopyscribble back and forth scribble scribble below the line...

On the plus side you can hand it to a pharmacist and probably get something...

Tangent, but I just learned recently that pharmacists don't use doctor scratch, it's an actual pharmacist coding thing.


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Linda Zayas-Palmer wrote:
Send your unreported sessions to pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com and we'll look into it.

Not to be impolite (and I'm quite aware that when someone says that, that's exactly what they're going to be), but bulls***.

See, I've reported errors on my PFS entries for years and they've never been fixed. I've never gotten any responses either. Just now, I checked one of my characters -- #2, to be specific -- and it STILL has misreported factions, non-reported scenarios, and it even has a game I GM'd for Starfinder Society reported on it. I have reported all of these before, and they are still there.

But I will scan in my sheet and send it in. I just don't expect anything to be done about it.


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I believe pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com is new within less than a year (it wasn't available for 2017 for sure). Before that it was up to convention staff and VCs. So you haven't been reporting to this system for years.


Blake's Tiger wrote:
I believe pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com is new within less than a year (it wasn't available for 2017 for sure). Before that it was up to convention staff and VCs. So you haven't been reporting to this system for years.

Entirely possible. Let me rephrase, then. I've been using the reporting method on the website for quite a while - whatever that may have been at the time - and gotten no response and no changes. This makes me very leery of those suggesting I use it to get this fixed.

EDIT: Found copies of the messages. Well, some of them. They were reported to pfsreportingerrors@paizo.com starting on June 6th, 2017. No responses to any questions, no changes made.


Two Questions.. What happens to unreported points? i have several Playtest points that were apparently never reported?

2. Is anyone else having issues registering a Second edition character? it wont let me choose a faction and wont let me register a character with out choosing a faction...

Grand Lodge

Brian Raivel wrote:

Two Questions.. What happens to unreported points? i have several Playtest points that were apparently never reported?

2. Is anyone else having issues registering a Second edition character? it wont let me choose a faction and wont let me register a character with out choosing a faction...

I had one of my VCs enter my unreported playtest points. Not sure if it's still possible to do that, though.

We'll have to wait til they enter the factions in the registration system.

Grand Lodge

How do i print out my boon?/ How do i get a better description of the boon?


My record shows the scenarios i have GMed, but does not give me credit for duplicates. Is that correct?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Bumping. Where and how do we get purchased boons?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens Subscriber
Chris Marsh wrote:
Bumping. Where and how do we get purchased boons?

In the same virtual space where you create characters and report events, there is now a fourth tab. It has a straight forward interface for purchasing boons with PTPs (and future AcPs). Make sure you select the correct character. There's no refund option.

Now, the full details of each boon and the ability to print them are not yet available (as of last I checked Saturday), but there is a list of characters and their boons that you can show on your phone/device (or Print Screen for PbP).

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Gotcha. It's the printing part I'm looking for.


It doesnt really help that we do not know what some of the boons actually do. River Kingdoms Excavator just lacks any sort of information about what it does.

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