Pathfinder Battles: Remembering the Fallen

Tuesday, March 04, 2019

Now that we've shown off all the figures in the standard Ruins of Lastwall set of prepainted plastic miniatures over the past few weeks, that leaves just the premium set for today's blog. Over the history of the line, we've switched between extra-large figures like dragons and giants and hydras and themed dungeon dressing like the Rusty Dragon Inn and the Court of the Crimson Throne. For Ruins of Lastwall, we suggested a cemetery set to WizKids, who at first seemed hesitant to do it (we later learned that they were doing a similar set in their Icons of the Realms product line). When they heard the pieces we wanted to include, however, they got really excited. The end result is one of the most impressive sets of dungeon dressing I think I've ever seen.

Illustration by Joel Holtzman

Each Cemetery of the Fallen Setincludes a working cemetery gate, two 2" fence segments, four 4" fence segments, a mausoleum with removable roof, a mausoleum coffin, four each of two varieties of tombstone, and two each of two stone coffins.

Cemetery of the Fallen is also the first premium set to use new packaging that displays the content inside. You can see both the packaging and a sample set all laid out together at New York Toy Fair a few weeks ago.

Photos: Erik Mona

That wraps up our previews for the Ruins of Lastwall release, due out later this spring from WizKids. When I next grace the blog with another preview, it'll likely be about the forthcoming Iconic Heroes Evolved set, also due out later this spring. Until then, don't split the party!

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Grand Lodge

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Huzzah!


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nice

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While I love this incentive, you’re right one of the best yet, are we likely to get back to big monsters soon if at all? I know the next is a village but how about after that?


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One change you might like is that huge miniatures will no longer be limited to the case incentives as they have been in the last several sets.


Do we have a jungle sacrificial altar? Maybe one that the Bekyar use to sacrifice Sargavan maidens to Angazhan? ;) :D


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Thank you VERY much for completing the previews before ordering/shipping happens. I know I was distraught last time, and want to express that I'm very appreciative that this time I get lead-time to make decisions.


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Cat-thulhu wrote:

While I love this incentive, you’re right one of the best yet, are we likely to get back to big monsters soon if at all? I know the next is a village but how about after that?

I'm in this boat, too.

It's a great looking set. I have scaled back on trying to incorporate dungeon dressing and set pieces like this in my games. The only other set I use is the tavern set. But this set is nice enough that I might have to go ahead and use it.

But I prefer a Gargantuan miniature over set pieces like this any day, as so far it's the only way we can get Gargantuan-sized minis. If there is a saving grace, it's that many of the Gargantuan creatures most common at my table can be obtained elsewhere like Papo, Safari Ltd., etc. Things like Dire Crocodiles, Great Reef Crabs, and pretty much all the dinosaurs can be obtained for what would likely be a bit cheaper than a Gargantuan-sized incentive piece.

Unfortunately, this leaves out a few great creatures like the Neothelid, Purple Worm and Bandersnatch. Not to mention it would be nice to have all the metallic dragons and other non-chromatic types in Gargantuan-size miniature form.

Still, I can definitely understand focusing more on the set-building incentives. They probably double nicely for those that just like building cool looking sets even if they don't use them. My only hope is that if they continue down this road, they'll start adding an extra PC-type or creature to the set. Even if it's an alternative to a piece found in a regular set. Like in a Goblin Village, it would be nice to get an extra goblin or two that we can add towards our collection of goblins. It will go a long way towards helping those of us that don't typically care for the builder sets to at least utilize some of the pieces. For example, I use my Gnome Executioner and Doctor Davaulus miniatures from the Crown of Fangs set quite often.


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Anguish wrote:
Thank you VERY much for completing the previews before ordering/shipping happens. I know I was distraught last time, and want to express that I'm very appreciative that this time I get lead-time to make decisions.

+1


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Speaking of the Legendary Adventures set, I'm super excited by what I've seen already. The first Huge that we've seen is been one of those on my list (and I think most peoples') I've wanted for a long time. The other creatures are classic, and I'm always a sucker for the classic monsters. I'm also very excited for the PC-type. It's great to see darker pigmentation characters for non-humans. I know we have to wait a bit for that preview, but I'm very excited about it!

Dark Archive

Is that a smaller peluda in the picture?


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Definitely missing Gargantuan creatures.

Granted, I’ve never been a fan of the dungeon dressing promos - I think they should be a separate line. I really hope the market’s appetite for them is waning. WizKids have so far clearly found them to be better sellers than big monsters.

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Steve Geddes wrote:

Definitely missing Gargantuan creatures.

Granted, I’ve never been a fan of the dungeon dressing promos - I think they should be a separate line. I really hope the market’s appetite for them is waning. WizKids have so far clearly found them to be better sellers than big monsters.

Amen - add me to this list as well. The terrain looks great in a diorama, but most of it is a bit too fiddly for rigorous play. Hopefully, saturation will show over time that miniature couch and divan sets are poor substitutes for our neglected meaty beasties!


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I like the terrain, but I also miss Gargantuan creatures. How about alternating sets between creatures and terrain. And, how about a Gold Dragon?

Grand Lodge

The Cemetery is one of the best sets to go along with the miniature sets that I have seen. I collected most if not all of the sets from "Dungeon and Dragons" miniature sets. I would love to own all of every set. I have been playing "D&D" and Pathfinder since 1979. I owned the original boxed set of rules for "D&D". I owned the Pathfinder books from the original book. I enjoy playing because it makes me feel like I lived back then. I will play until I can't. These dungeon dressing sets are awesome.


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I 100% would prefer Gargantuan miniatures as the incentives. These dungeon dressing pieces are nice and all but I don't want them. I purchase miniatures for the creatures, not for pieces of furniture.

And like you said, Icons of the Realms just did a cemetery theme, so I have no appetite for this at all. Sure, not everyone buys both lines on miniatures, but for those who do, like me, this feels like overkill.

Also Gargantuan dragons are way overdone. There are so many more Gargantuan creatures to choose from. Please pick some. The Rune Giant and the Shemhazian were amazing!

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I am actually super-excited for the "Cemetary of the Fallen" because almost every campaign includes a graveyard & can't think of any single gargantuan mini that i would like to have instead of it.

This is mainly the case, because we are now getting huge minis from both "D&D" & "PFB" and i already own every gargantuan but Orcus & the Shemhazian.

A gargantuan mini hits the table very few times (we had one Roc in Mummy's Mask books 1-4 & my D&D gargantuan Black Dragon stood in for it).

That being said, there are probably about 10 gargantuan minis i would still like to have, chief among them a Neothelid and i also would like sets alternating between creatures & scenery or the best of both worlds (like the "Kraken & Islands"), even if such double deals would be a little more expensive (like the two Elementals from Kingmaker were).

But i don't need more gargantuan dragons or giants - aberations, plants or magical beasts please. :-)


I'll have to wait until their in hand to be certain, but I suspect Ruins of Lastwall will be my favorite PFB set to date. I like gargantuan monsters as much as the next guy, but this graveyard set is exactly what I've needed for a long time. I'm also grateful that you're not scrimping on the gravestones, though I wouldn't mind if additional gravestones became available for purchase directly.


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I completely understand why this type of set works for so many people. As Marco points out, there is usually at least one cemetery setting in every campaign. And as far as dungeon dressing and dressing sets go, this has to be right up there.

But there are a great many of us that don't use dungeon dressing or these sets at all. I just find it much easier to make my 2-D maps and layouts without dressing pieces or sets. In fact, I only use a grid in maybe half of my games. The rest of the time I'm only bringing out miniatures when there is a fight going on. (Or as NPC's throughout the session). So while any given homebrew campaign of mine often includes multiple cemetery scenarios, bringing it to life just isn't a thing.

Not that I haven't tried with some of the sets. But it always seems like a better idea when I have it than when I put it to practice. Call me boring or old fashioned, but I guess I just like PC's, NPC's and creatures to fight. And a Gargantuan-sized Neothelid would find it's way into every single one of my campaigns, even if just once per campaign. A cemetery set will never be used at my table.

I'm happy for others that do use them. But as others have said, I won't hate it if Dungeon Dressing and Build sets find their own dedicated line.

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I can't wait to have monster incentives again, whether Huges or a Gargantuan. But what with financial hardship, this might be the last set I'm able to get. So my opinion might not count for much.

Dark Archive

Looking at the PF 2.0 Bestiary, it seems that the Troll & Hydra look more ore less the same, but i see new Kobold minis will be needed in the future. ;-)


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I am so glad to finally have a "Froghemoth" miniature (from D&D Icons set 11 "Dungeon of the Mad Mage")!

This makes me even more excited for septembers Pathfinder Battles set 17 "Legendary Adventures" and it's (presumed five out of six) unrevealed HUGE miniatures!
I really hope that one of them will be the ABOLETH.

Dark Archive

There are between 6 and 10 weeks left until the release of "Ruins of Lastwall" & "Iconic Heroes Evolved".

Some renders from the later or some pictures of actual minis from the former would be much appreciated. ;-)

Shadow Lodge

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Wizkids have their gallery up for the set, actual minis look pretty good.

wizkids RoL

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SET LIST:

COMMONS:
01 Caligni Creeper (s)
02 Caligni Caller (s)
03 Formian Worker (s)
04 Caligni Stalker
05 Draugr
06 Hyena
07 Lastwall Soldier
08 Leng Ghoul
09 Poltergeist
10 Razmir Cultist
11 Skeletal Soldier
12 Velstrac Evangelist
13 Whispering Way Cultist

UNCOMMONS:
14 Nosoi Psychopomp
15 Formian Warrior
16 Jyoti
17 Lastwall Knight
18 Lastwall Paladin
19 Mohrg
20 Razmir Priest
21 Sceaduinar
22 Skeletal Samurai
23 Skeletal Speaker
24 Vanth Psychopomp

LARGE UNCOMMONS:
25 ANDROSPHINX
26 LARGE GOLD DRAGON
27 LASTWALL GENERAL
28 NUCKELAVEE
29 ROILING OIL
30 SCORPIONFOLK
31 TOMB GIANT
32 WARMONGER DEVIL

RARES:
33 Arazni
34 Iomedae
35 Morrigna
36 Razmir
37 Thanadaemon
38 Urgathoa
39 Whispering Tyrant
40 Worm that walks

LARGE RARES:
41 EMPYREAN ANGEL
42 FORMIAN QUEEN
43 LARGE TIME DRAGON
44 PHARASMA

DRESSINGS:
D1 CRYPT WALL (L)
D2 TORTURE RACK (L)
D3 FUNERARY BED (L)
D4 AFTERLIFE SCALE (m)
D5 STONE CAIRN (m)
D6 CANOPIC JARS (s)

Dark Archive

Judging from the timing of Wizkids putting the gallery online, the release date will be may 1st or may 8th latest.

I guess we'll know either next wednesday or april 3rd.

I expect the "Iconic Heroes Evolved" pack either on the same date to save shipping costs or later in may, because "RoL" is the last Pathfinder 1.0 minis product & "IHE" is the first for second edition...


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Judging from the timing of Wizkids putting the gallery online, the release date will be may 1st or may 8th latest.

I guess we'll know either next wednesday or april 3rd.

I expect the "Iconic Heroes Evolved" pack either on the same date to save shipping costs or later in may, because "RoL" is the last Pathfinder 1.0 minis product & "IHE" is the first for second edition...

If this is true it means it probably still charges to our April subscriptions, right? And then we can have it deliver separately or hold it until the end of May with our May subscriptions?

Also....

My upcoming subscription price is still showing $358.18. Usually it shows $511.68 with a strikethrough, then a $399.99 with a strikethrough, followed by the actual $279.99 price (without strikethrough). I realize things are subject to change, but it's the latest I've seen something like this after the product announcement and page has been made. I'm concerned that it's taking our 30% off the original $511.68 price and not the $399.99 listed price.

Do any other case subscribers see this too, or is it showing the normal $279.99 for you?

Scarab Sages

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I see the same price listed on my subscription:

Your Subscription Price
Pathfinder Battles—Ruins of Lastwall Case
511.68 358.18 358.18

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Pigraven wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:

Judging from the timing of Wizkids putting the gallery online, the release date will be may 1st or may 8th latest.

I guess we'll know either next wednesday or april 3rd.

I expect the "Iconic Heroes Evolved" pack either on the same date to save shipping costs or later in may, because "RoL" is the last Pathfinder 1.0 minis product & "IHE" is the first for second edition...

If this is true it means it probably still charges to our April subscriptions, right? And then we can have it deliver separately or hold it until the end of May with our May subscriptions?

Also....

My upcoming subscription price is still showing $358.18. Usually it shows $511.68 with a strikethrough, then a $399.99 with a strikethrough, followed by the actual $279.99 price (without strikethrough). I realize things are subject to change, but it's the latest I've seen something like this after the product announcement and page has been made. I'm concerned that it's taking our 30% off the original $511.68 price and not the $399.99 listed price.

Do any other case subscribers see this too, or is it showing the normal $279.99 for you?

Subscription shipping is scheduled to start on april 11th at the moment.

If the "RoL" minis are to be part of that shipment, they would have to be in stock at Paizo's warehouse next week - a whole month before the earliest possible street date of may 1st.
I don't see that happening.

In other news:

Wizkids is finally offering fully painted versions in clear blisters of six D&D characters from the "Nolzur's" line in august 2019.

If those are successfull, we may see player minis being in blind boosters together with monsters become a thing of the past.

I also heard we may be getting painted dressing pieces seperately from Wizkids in the future.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:


In other news:

Wizkids is finally offering fully painted versions in clear blisters of six D&D characters from the "Nolzur's" line in august 2019.

If those are successfull, we may see player minis being in blind boosters together with monsters become a thing of the past.

It sounds like they are doing for WotC what Pathfinder already has with the Iconic Heroes line: six premium non-random figures

nice renderings
https://icv2.com/gallery/42811/1

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DropBearHunter wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:


In other news:

Wizkids is finally offering fully painted versions in clear blisters of six D&D characters from the "Nolzur's" line in august 2019.

If those are successfull, we may see player minis being in blind boosters together with monsters become a thing of the past.

It sounds like they are doing for WotC what Pathfinder already has with the Iconic Heroes line: six premium non-random figures

nice renderings
https://icv2.com/gallery/42811/1

It's even better, because you can buy the single mini you want in a bubble blister for $7.99.

And these being existing sculpts from the unpainted line coming out roughly a year later as fully painted versions leaves about a hundred more possible minis to be made in future waves!

This is how i imagine the future:

You have a Bestiary where every creature picture is that of a miniature, with a qr code on the page enabling you to order any mini in it in any quantity you need. ;-)


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Marco Massoudi wrote:
... a Bestiary where every creature picture is that of a miniature, with a qr code on the page enabling you to order any mini in it in any quantity you need. ;-)

oh, yes please.

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The minis will now officially ship with the may subscription shipment.

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Like i said, Wizkids announced painted "dungeon tiles" miniatures with doors, walls & wood/stone double sides:

icv2

Expect these to be only the tip of the iceberg, as 2020 will bring a lot more prepainted stuff.

It would also be nice to get a preview of the upcoming "Iconic Heroes Evolved" set, as that is going to be in stores in aproximately 4-6 weeks.


Nice to have a reasonably priced alternative for tiles. looking foward to it! Thanks for the news Marco


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Ooh, those look nice. I will definitely pick some up once available.

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STREET DATE IS MAY 22nd!

The "Iconic Heroes Evolved" pack has been pushed back to september 2019!

The next miniatures release after "Ruins of Lastwall" will be the "Legendary Adventures preview pack" in august (European order cutoff may 14th).

@Mark Moreland:

European order cutoff for "Legendary Adventures" is june 11th.
It would be great, if you could show us full renders or at least the full set description of the "Goblin village" case incentive & the unrevealed HUGE miniatures before that date, so that we'll know how many cases we'll need to order.
Thank you in advance. :-)

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Wizkids are putting their prepainted minis production into overdrive.

Not only will there be a "WizKids 4D Settings: Jungle Shrine" set with led's in august 2019, but also a "D&D Icons of the Realms Miniatures: Walking Statue of Waterdeep - The Honorable Knight" miniature (either GARGANTUAN or COLOSSAL size) at the same time.
Both are going to be available seperately, not as a case incentive.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

@Mark Moreland:

European order cutoff for "Legendary Adventures" is june 11th.
It would be great, if you could show us full renders or at least the full set description of the "Goblin village" case incentive & the unrevealed HUGE miniatures before that date, so that we'll know how many cases we'll need to order.
Thank you in advance. :-)

I don't think that timeline is going to work for all the previews you're looking for. WizKids has previously requested that we give each full set a few months in the spotlight before previews of the next set take over. In this case, Legendary Adventures is set for a Q3 release, so we will not likely get to previews for it until summer.

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Mark Moreland wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:

@Mark Moreland:

European order cutoff for "Legendary Adventures" is june 11th.
It would be great, if you could show us full renders or at least the full set description of the "Goblin village" case incentive & the unrevealed HUGE miniatures before that date, so that we'll know how many cases we'll need to order.
Thank you in advance. :-)

I don't think that timeline is going to work for all the previews you're looking for. WizKids has previously requested that we give each full set a few months in the spotlight before previews of the next set take over. In this case, Legendary Adventures is set for a Q3 release, so we will not likely get to previews for it until summer.

Thank you for answering, Mark.

I understand that you have to respect Wizkids decision.

Can you answer these questions:

1.
The Ruins of Lastwall "Cemetary of the Fallen" allows you to build a small fully walled cemetary. Multiple sets allow for a much bigger cemetary.
That's why i ordered more than one.

Are you able to build a full small circle with one "Goblin Village"?
Does the purchase of two allow you to build a larger one?

2. Is one of the huge minis an Aboleth?

Any infos you can give us european customers before the order cutoff will be much appreciated and probably lead to increased orders, at least in my case. :-)

If you can't answer question 1 or 2 right now, please adress the case incentive composition in the first preview before june 11th and show us as many huge minis in it as you can. ;-)

Thank you for your time.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Are you able to build a full small circle with one "Goblin Village"?

Does the purchase of two allow you to build a larger one?

I'm not sure what the final piece count will be on the palisades, nor how many pieces would be required to make a full circle. I'll look into it and give an answer as soon as I can.

Marco Massoudi wrote:
2. Is one of the huge minis an Aboleth?

You mean an alghollthu? That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?

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Mark Moreland wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:

Are you able to build a full small circle with one "Goblin Village"?

Does the purchase of two allow you to build a larger one?

I'm not sure what the final piece count will be on the palisades, nor how many pieces would be required to make a full circle. I'll look into it and give an answer as soon as I can.

Marco Massoudi wrote:
2. Is one of the huge minis an Aboleth?
You mean an alghollthu? That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?

First, thank you Mark, that is pretty great of you! :-)

2. Yes, it would. ;-)


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and since the first edition Vieled Master is sold out I‘m appreciating the use of the general term here.

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The "Veiled Master" #44 from Dungeons Deep is one of the few PFB minis that i don't have, but i think a new huge uncommon "Aboleth Alghollthu" (CR 7 organisation 1-19) sculpt is more likely than a new version of a CR 15, organization single creature. ;-)


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Mark Moreland wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:

Are you able to build a full small circle with one "Goblin Village"?

Does the purchase of two allow you to build a larger one?

I'm not sure what the final piece count will be on the palisades, nor how many pieces would be required to make a full circle. I'll look into it and give an answer as soon as I can.

Marco Massoudi wrote:
2. Is one of the huge minis an Aboleth?
You mean an alghollthu? That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?

Hiw about two or three Alghollthus would be even better!


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Marco Massoudi wrote:
The "Veiled Master" #44 from Dungeons Deep is one of the few PFB minis that i don't have, but i think a new huge uncommon "Aboleth Alghollthu" (CR 7 organisation 1-19) sculpt is more likely than a new version of a CR 15, organization single creature. ;-)

I‘d be equally happy about an official „2e Vieled Master not happening in a hurry“ before I throw a pile of cash at the secondary market.

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nerds on earth did a brick unboxing video, a case incentive unboxing video & a 360 degrees video of a few selected minis.

I have to say that the painting quality of the Ruins of Lastwall minis looks to be EXTREMELY HIGH, especially the human miniatures look absolutely stunning.
There is only one miniature that looks bad, the "Whispering Way Cultist", but i can live with that.

This last PFB 1.0 set looks like an absolute must-have and the fact that it will release in the US & Canada in 40 days is great.

I would probably order another case if i could, but it's too late for that now.
If you can get your hands on these, don't hesitate. ;-)

Dark Archive

5 weeks/35 days until street date.
I hope the reason behind Wizkids pushback to may 22nd is because of the high demand, because there are already some miniatures circulating out there shipped out by Wizkids.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

5 weeks/35 days until street date.

I hope the reason behind Wizkids pushback to may 22nd is because of the high demand, because there are already some miniatures circulating out there shipped out by Wizkids.

I believe there's a customs issue holding the shipment from China up, but such matters are usually resolved in a few weeks at the most. Send vibes of speedy processing to all the customs agents out there!

Regarding the goblin camp palisades, WizKids has confirmed that there will be enough wall segments to make a complete circle from one set.

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