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Like these four and once again rarities are good. Will that flame effect on the strip be a added piece? I'm glad the dwarfs shield gets a Tampa, means a quick spot of ain't and Bam! No longer an Asmodean.
I really hope this hell knight is a solid translation to plastic. I love the hell knight look and the last few have been a little disappointing. This one looks very solid, but I thought the same of LoG (?) and those two were underwhelming in hand. This looks to be a better starting point.
As stated above if the set comes out like RD this set should be a home run.
Have to agree, despite my indifference to them no the Drow are long overdue in pathfinder battles. The ones in the races codex are great pics and a wide variety of roles.
I also wouldn't mind seeing some of the other PC races like the Ratfolk - martial and caster options. The alchemist in the race codex is a nice piece of work. At the moment we utilise a repainted kobold devilspeaker.
Troglodytes? To date we have one, three to four more would be great. Again the monster codex provides great art.
Darkfolk.
I know we have three to date but a few more orcs wouldn't go astray, an average rank and file warrior and a barbarian type. Monster codex.
Cultists. Not the WotR type but more like the apostle in orpiment or the crazed villager sort.
Of The big monster groups I think these are well overdue:
Qlippoth. So much want to see these in plastic. Any!
Oni. Fire, water, ice Yai. Oh and most of all Void!
Daemons. At least one for each horseman but Caco, Dergho, hydro, male and thanadaemon would be a great start
kytons. Interlocutor, oremite, augur, termigant or sacristan
We also need some more plants, these are woefully under represented. Say a Basidirond, assassin vine, yellow musk creeper (with zombies), violet fungus. There are many and a mini plant theme could be good.
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Damn, these four all look great!
i did call Jilia & the Strix, but not the other two.
Skull & Shackles had a Hellknight, Legends of Golarion had another plus a Signifier.
GROUPS:
-Drow
-Red Mantis Assassins
-Tengu
-Ratfolk
-Kitsune
-Duergar
-Strix
-Aspis Consortium
-Bloatmages
-Gray Gardeners
-Old Ones Cultists
-Pathfinder
-Razmiran Cultists
Thanks!
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-Plants are definitely needed.
-Small dragons.
-A cat and dog.
-Merfolk.
-Morlocks
-Svirfneblin
-Vegepygmy with Violet Fungus (they are in every second AP)
We are now missing:
-2 large uncommons (one being a Bone Devil?)
-2 medium rares (one being "Aram Goldenheart"/Aasimar Paladin, the other James Jacobs PC?)
-2 large rares (one being the Keketar Protean, the other a Planetar?)
-5 dressing pieces (very curious about these)
I´m a bit baffled by the ommission of the Astral Deva/Messanger Angel.
These look great, especially Jilia!
So, one group of creatures I'd like to see are the elemental blooded humanoids. I have an affinity towards using them as my characters. But, off the top of my head I can't think of seeing a suli, oread, ifrit, undine or sylph in the Pathfinders Battles line. Maybe I'm forgetting one. Am I wrong? How great would a flying sylph air wizard look with those swirling blue tattoos tampo stamped on it's skin!?
I love all those minis, especially Jilia, whom I agree would make an awesome PC!
Wishlist for groups:
-- Urdefhan
-- I forget their name, but there's a human/scorpion cross that features a lot in Mummy's Mask, and they're totally unrepresented in plastic.
-- I could get on board w/ drow, particularly if there's a drider, since PF driders look different than the old D&D ones did.
-- Red Mantises would be very welcome, and I like the Bloatmage idea too.
-- Kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, and grippli. I can tell you that as a seller on the secondary market there's a big demand for these.
-- Bandits/thugs. Very basic and generic, w/ relatively common dress and simple weaponry like clubs, spears, and swords. Ideally a female human among them. This is a staple that is less well represented in prepaints than you'd think. Maybe the Stag Lord (from Kingmaker) as a rare leader?
-- Vegepygmies. I don't understand why no one's ever done these in prepaints. They show up in adventures all the time.
-- A set of elemental-themed humanoids: sylph, oread, undine, ifrit. You've got art in the Advanced Race Guide.
-- Some more townsfolk, especially a kid, a wounded veteran, an obese commoner, and an elderly person. A half-orc bruiser who could be a street tough or bodyguard would be cool too.
-- Razmiran cultists with different color masks and robes. You have a whole adventure that uses little else, and you even have a sculpt already available with Reaper.
-- Shoanti, especially a good shaman. Garundi tribesmen would be welcome too.
-- A few Qadiran/Osirian characters.
-- Spell effects: a giant translucent hand, a wall or two of various types (maybe an opportunity for a promo version?), maybe a spiritual weapon, a flaming sphere, etc. Actually, a 2' diameter transparent hemisphere might be useful in all sorts of ways.
Some other singles I'd like to see:
-- A mini of Tup the Terrible as soon as humanly possible. W/ puppets. (I suppose Banjo is too much to ask for.)
-- Shocker lizard!!! (Like a decade and a half that companies have been making prepaints, and still no shocker lizard! Inconceivable!)
-- Black pudding. Would have to be the easiest paint job on a common ever.
-- Second the plants. Plants get no love in prepaints.
-- For dressing, a guillotine. You know you want to!
I'm sure I'll come up with other wishes, but these would all make me ever so happy (until the next time you ask :-)
Drow and plants would be cool.
Desert themed minis would be hot.
Aside from that you always manage to come up with winners that I didn't know I would want until I see them.
Grim Reaper mini would be nice.
Also Vilraven would be kind of neat.
Plus maybe some Old Ones perhaps?
My wife usually plays a human cleric and I have a difficult time finding miniatures of human female PCs in heavier armor--especially carrying cleric weapons. I would love some more options in this space.
Great minis! Very excited by all of these! As for suggestions:
-Drow (I second the Drow request. Some new rare distinct drow would be nice and needed (both male and female).
-Duergar (both rare and common)
-Derro (would be great to get some of these)
-More fey (any would be welcome)
nice scuplts and fitting rarities.
Suggestions for themed groups:
Fey, especially quicklings and sprites
Spriggans, small and large
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I agree, the Elemental Races would be a nice group. Also...where my Wayang at? As simple as it to point out: there are a lot of PC races that are under/unrepresented in Battles. I know it's not all about PFS, but I'm sure a male and female of each would not be hated by much of anyone:
Suli
Ifrit
Sylph
Undine
Oread
Kitsune
Wayang
Tengu
Nagaji
Just...saying...
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TOP 3 WANTED seem to be:
-PLANTS (Assassin Vine, Basidirond, Shambling Mound, Vegepygmys, Violet Fungus, Yellow Musk Creeper)
-DROW (Second Darkness cover art APs # 13, 15, 16, 18, interior art from AP #16 and male Drider from the Bestiary)
-RED MANTIS ASSASSINS (art from the Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover, Serpent´s Skull #4 & Inner Sea NPC Codex).
Waw, a fantastic preview! I love every one of those figures.
As for suggestions for races or groups:
- the wonderful strix mini calls out for MORE!
- I would like some red mantis assassins as well.
- Shoanti, the particular nature of the Shoanti makes it quite hard to find proper minis to represent them. Most barbarian-like minis on the market are either too Conan-like or too viking-like. They don't have the Shoanti vibe.
I'm particularly interested to hear what major races or groups you'd like to see us cover with multiple "like" figures in the same set.
My response will be a little biased towards my enjoyment of playing half-orcs, but it would be great to see a greater variety of half-orcs. Half-orcs are a good versatile race as many times you will encounter them as mercenaries, enemy minions, orc horde denizens, npc characters or player characters.
Here's a list of the half-orcs made by Paizo currently:
Imrijika (2 sculpts) - Female half-orcs are greatly under-represented in pre-painted minis, and as unique as this sculpt is, it thematically has limited use/appeal for use on the gaming table.
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery18/18imrijka.jpg
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery11/11imrijka.jpg
Tsadok Goldtooth - This unique pistol wielding mini suffers from the same shortfalls as Imrijika.
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery7/tsadok.jpg
Half-Orc Adept - Great looking, evil/intimidating helm this guy is wearing, but to me orcs just seem more menacing when you can see their faces. For this reason, I don't think he sees a lot of gaming table play.
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery19/19halforcadept.jpg
Half-Orc Barbarian - A common barbarian build is a half-orc, and this sculpt is generally the standard go-to mini for this type of character. And rightfully so -- its a great mini!
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery2/halforcbarbarian.jpg
Oloch, Half-Orc Warpriest - This is another unique sculpt that I fear does not see a lot of play on the gaming table. There's a lot of detail on the standard on this character's back, but I believe that the standard limits the utility of this character. This mini is a great option for a cleric type character, but for those half-orcs that are a little more tribal in nature, this really wouldn't make a good shaman mini.
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery22/22oloch.jpg
Irabeth - This mini does a great job helping to fill that female orc-orc gap. The fancy gold armor though does take away quite a bit of the utility of this character, but it certainly makes an excellent option for anyone playing a paladin or fighter.
http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery11/11irabeth.jpg
It would be great to see more half-orc minis, similar to the Half-Orc Barbarian where they are generic enough in appearance that they can easily double as either a Player Character or as the DM's minions.
Some more half-orc warrior/fighter options would be great -- both female and male. A half-orc warrior/barbarian wielding a greataxe or earthbreaker would be awesome!
Some half-orc ranger/scout options would be great, as a would a more subdued half-orc cleric that could possibly double as a shaman or druid.
A good half-orc brawler/monk option would also be great as I have often seen these characters. Half-orc thugs/rogues would also be another great option.
On an unrelated note, 1 image which is carved into my mind because of how much I liked the art is Grask Uldeth, from Belkzen, Hold of the Orc Hordes, on page 35. This is such a great image and would make for a great miniature. It could possibly double as a half-orc -- a really nasty, kick-arse half orc!
Grask Uldeth
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I intentionally didn't list red mantis because we are going to get them in this set! Right Erik? please say yes, please...No Red Mantis in Deadly Foes.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Eh it's alright. Next set maybe?
No shambling mounds please, other plants for sure but a largely nondescript mound of plant matter doesn't cry multi use plant mini.
Happy to hear the next set has orcs though.
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I hear everyone on drow.
It may very well be time. Mike and I will crack the seal on the Ebon Archive and see what comes crawling out.
Qlippoth are an interesting thought. I'd love to sneak one or two of them in there, especially since I was the one who brought the whole concept into third edition with Armies of the Abyss.
Agreed on the lack of a lot of good secondary PC race choices. We'll comb the archives for undines, ifrits, oreads, and sylphs especially. Do feel free to post specific image suggestions in this thread, if you've got any.
Kitsune fans are going to BLAST OFF into the stratosphere when they see the cover to Blood of the Beast. Holy hell, that thing is a furry's paradise. God help us all.
I think ratfolk are very strong candidates. Lots of good art for them poking around here and there. Ditto tengu. Both of these races seem to be particularly popular, which is cool.
A Cthulhu-esque monster or two is always welcome. Maybe there's something juicy from the first few volumes of Strange Aeons. Hmmmm.
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! Keep 'em coming!
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Ah strange aeons, 1 issue in and already loving this AP. A quick glance at just issue 1:
Page 37 and 59. Colour aside, very utilitarian.
Page 42, please. Long overdue and sees a surprising amount of use in adventure modules
Page 89, not sure how, almost certainly too hard to successfully translate. Transparent plastic, perhaps like the old horrorclix giant amoeba? This is such a cool and creepy idea it begs to be further used.
Page 85 is also pretty cool.
A flying polyp would be very, very welcome but it would have to be an oversized large since they're huge in pathfinder
As for Ratfolk, like Kor's half orcs a personal love of mine, the images on pages 151 and 152 of the race guide are great and look like Ratfolk rather than mouse folk.
I intentionally didn't list red mantis because we are going to get them in this set! Right Erik? please say yes, please...No Red Mantis in Deadly Foes.
Worst thing I've read all day. Please bust them out soon, both sexes and a rare of Chivane.
And a Grippli, I can't even find a Grippli in metal.
It's great to see another preview so soon.
If you make drows, I hope we'll see some of the Second Darkness npcs in the bunch. Such great images in that path!
Mordant Spire elves, Ekujae wild elves and snowcaster elves would also be great to see.
I'd personally love seeing more uncommon races as other posters have already said, maybe a set featuring them? Or a Builder series box of them (one can hope!).
Miniature proxies for classical races and human like races are usually easy to find but good luck finding minis that look like wayangs, vanaras, ghorans, nagajis, gathlains, gripplis, kasathas, kitsunes, wyrwoods and wyvarans. So yes, any of those pretty please.
-Various shape changed skinwalkers or lycanthropes in hybrid forms would be great. One of my players created a female Coldborn(bear) skinwalker, it was a lot of converting work to create a suitable miniature since there's nothing of the like I could find anywhere.
-Plants, yes, please! I had to use the old metal Treant from Reaper that looks like a broccoli with legs for the yellow musk creeper in Emerald Spire. The humanity!
-More oozes too, they're just neat looking.
-Fey? Absolutely. There are some cool ones in the Bestiaries that need some miniature love.
-Devils, they pop up often enough in Adventure Paths and modules, if we could have all the classic ones done, it would be great.
-Deamons, Qulippoths, Aeons, Asuras, Divs, Demodands, Psychopomps, Inevitables, Proteans, Kytons and some of the missing Demons too.
-Good outsiders would also be handy for Hell's Vengeance, right?
-Bloatmages, what a fantastic idea. They could probably be used as obese ghouls in a pinch.
-With the new hellknights book, miniatures using the Orders' various armors style would be cool.
-Horror Adventures p.142... what? I could use an unmounted Dullahan.
-Would it be possible to include one monster from an Adventure Path (or any other books or modules with monsters) per set? A vote for the most popular could be fun, there are some real winners in those.
Anyway, just one last quick thanks for asking for our suggestions, Eric. It makes the sets even cooler in my opinion!
I agree with the more plant types. Yellow musk creeper and zombies would be fun. As for other stuff how about catfolk? We have one but how about maybe a robed one (caster type). My youngin loves to play khajiit in the elder scrolls games and her catfolk kineticist doesn't quite look right with the repaint of a catfolk attacking with a sword. Some drow would be cool also especially common foot soldiers and maybe some heavy armored elite types. Shoanti would be a welcome addition. Rat folk would be also. I dunno there's so many I could put on a wish list. So far I'm loving em all.
Oh and someone mentioned grippili I did a Kickstarter a year or 2 ago with a company called Stonehaven miniatures just to get some grippili they offered. They're great and I am sure they have an online store somewhere. They'll do until we get some prepainted.
I don't think there is a male swashbuckler yet. There are no minis with a buckler at least.
I'll have to give this some thought. Hopefully I have until Tuesday, at least - my writing schedule is running me ragged. ^_^
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All I said was no Red Mantis in Deadly Foes. :)
Please tell me we get the red mantis from page 47 of the inner sea NPC codex in a future set! The one in the red mist. Could even use an effect like this old mysterio heroclix mysterio. With a transparent red mist effect. Plus one male with helmet and one female without at least, maybe even a fourth.....too greedy huh?
And Marco while I hope otherwise I suspect the bone devil may be a rare :( I hope not. I also recall vaguely mention of giants in this set. I might be wrong to assume plural but a shadow giant directly from the inner sea bestiary would be amazingly awesome. Hope that's the other large. Otherwise, Erik I think the Shadow Giant from the inner sea bestiary would be a great addition.
Agreed on the lack of a lot of good secondary PC race choices. We'll comb the archives for undines, ifrits, oreads, and sylphs especially. Do feel free to post specific image suggestions in this thread, if you've got any.
So happy to read this! I have had several Ifrits in the past and to use a proper miniature representation I have always needed to modify a miniature (painted or unpainted)
I intentionally didn't list red mantis because we are going to get them in this set! Right Erik? please say yes, please...No Red Mantis in Deadly Foes.Worst thing I've read all day. Please bust them out soon, both sexes and a rare of Chivane.
And a Grippli, I can't even find a Grippli in metal.
Take a look at this page for a Grippli Archer in metal, and that same company, Stonehaven Miniatures, has at least half a dozen other grippli minis on their site.
I hear everyone on drow.
It may very well be time. Mike and I will crack the seal on the Ebon Archive and see what comes crawling out.
I bet one of them will* be wielding two scimitars :-p
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The most important thing about drow imho is to use the great Second Darkness art, but NOT the bad (again imo) art from the Monster Codex.
That book has great art all around, but unfortunately not in the drow section (for example the first two males have a Justin Bieber haircut).
If i may suggest some Lovecraft creatures:
Hastur is only medium (Bestiary 4), Bokrug is large (B4).
Strange Aeons book one has the tiny Zoog with new art and the small Voonith (Bestiary 3) without art.
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We need some more Catfolk. Like a lion-type barbarian warrior. Or a leopard female fighter.
Maybe a male or female Tiefling as well.
LMAO! The Dwarf looks like Tormund Giantsbane!!!
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Wow. Some great suggestions here. Catfolk. Scorpion-men. EXCELLENT.
As far as our drown go, I prefer the Steve Prescott designs from the Second Darkness covers, so a few of those are a lock of we do draw at all. Drider also seems like a lock.
I have to say that I had originally intended to cancel my subscription after the last set but this preview and most of the previous ones have convinced me to keep it going.
I really need to +1 the daemon suggestion. They're the one thing I'm missing from my collection that I can't get anywhere else. The deacons plus the astradaemon would be a great start, imo.
I'll also +1 the genie-kin suggestion, though it appears they're already under consideration (which I'm really excited about).
Can't wait to see what the future holds!
*thought he saw some Red Mantis Pawns in Curse of the Crimson Throne Pawn Set...*
My suggestion
sins spawns (all the different sin)
drows (based on adventure path cover)
tiny fey sprite (wearing forest cloth)
scylla
brine dragon
asian dragon
tarasque
deamons
qulippoths
all giant based on giantslayer cover adv path
fire oni (like the one on tide of honor background art cover)
the Jade regent Takahiro and is grand father Anamurumon
black puding
shoggoth
huge elemental
couple of asian themed monster from jade regent (just a few) ;p
ratfolk
tengu
oni
catfolk (ala thundercat)
demon lords
dukes of hell
bloat mage
rest of the evil huge dragon
half orc monk
evil boss monk
Mythic (epic) iconics
evil iconics
occult iconics
ultimate intrigue iconics (both apparence)
summonned monsters n beasts pack
titan
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A "Summon Monster I" box in the same size as the Iconic Heroes boxed sets would be great!
-Dire Rat (#23 from Heroes and Monsters)
-Dog
-Dolphin (hard to get in medium)
-Eagle (#1 from Reign of Winter)
-Fire Beetle (#7 from Dungeons Deep)
-Frog, poison
-Pony (horse)
-Viper (snake)
add a
-Giant Centipede (#11 from Dungeons Deep)
-Mite (gremlin) (#3 from Shattered Star)
-Stirge (#3 Bloodbug from Skull & Shackles)
and you got "Summon Nature´s Ally I" too!
Just in case boxed sets are still on the table. ;-)
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Wow. Some great suggestions here. Catfolk. Scorpion-men. EXCELLENT.
As far as our drown go, I prefer the Steve Prescott designs from the Second Darkness covers, so a few of those are a lock of we do draw at all. Drider also seems like a lock.
Here are the page numbers of the good full body illustrations from Second Darkness:
-AP#13 cover: Depora Azrinae, female drow fighter w handcrossbow bayonet & buckler
-AP#14 page 42: Xakihn, male drow druid w spear & dagger
-AP#15 cover: Nolveniss Azrinae, male drow illusionist w staff of dark flames, page 24: Ilverae Parastric, female bard/Alchemist w acid flask
-AP#16 cover: Alicavniss Vonnarc, female drow wizard w adamantine spiked glove & staff of conjuration, page 46: Tiryin Vonnarc, male drow fighter/rogue with double shortswords, pages 27 & 61 male Drider, page 62: fleshwarped drow with poison fangs, tentacle & claw.
AP#18: cover: Allevrah Azrinae, female drow cleric w whip & shield, page 25: Drexinis, male drow sorcerer w glowing dagger.
-Dolphin (hard to get in medium)
Hi, Marco. Heroclix has a medium sized green-colored version of beast boy in dolphin form. You can pick it up for cheap on the second-hand market. With some gray paint you can quickly repaint it to look something like this.