It's a Fight to the Finish!

Oozes can always fuse. Hope it isnt an ooze.

They can't always fuse, I ... actually cannot think of any oozes that fuse. Some do split though.

Heh. I definitely want to see the plant creature over the animal. Looks like a leshy? But regardless, looks intelligent, so automatically of more interest. Curious about Outsider A and Outsider B, the undead looks kind of cool but I generally like fey more. Went with the humanoid definitely because humanoids are generally going to be more influential in a setting since they usually have a society and culture...besides, Outsider C's description sounds like an aeon. Maybe an inevitable. Went with Magical Beast A, though Myth Lord's insights are making me think Magical Beast B would be interesting too, so I won't mind losing there...the silhouette made it look ugly and deformed...

I suspect the red panda is a normal red panda, and will be part of the B5 familiars section.

That may actually be whats going for the mantis shrimp (they'd be the right size for an aquatic familiar), but I'm really hoping for a colossal mantis shrimp that explodes boats.

Laser scorpion GLADoS bot? Yessss.

I suspect the red panda is a normal red panda, and will be part of the B5 familiars section.

That may actually be whats going for the mantis shrimp (they'd be the right size for an aquatic familiar), but I'm really hoping for a colossal mantis shrimp that explodes boats.

I really hope that its a Dire Mantis Shrimp, not a fan of the real world animals in monster manuals. But both being in is also good, but then I hope the picture is from the Dire Mantis Shrimp, I mean why would you choose the picture of a normal mantis shrimp over a dire one? On google everyone can find pictures of normal ones but not from dire ones.

And i'm so happy to see my favorite poster back... At least I don't have to click and see who favorized al that stuff I guess.

I am really curious what the humanoid, dragon, fey, magical beast A and B actually are.

the clurichaun and brain mole sound like solid guesses.

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All I can think of is "Whooooo's that Pokemon?".

You have no idea how tempting it was to put a starburst behind each of these silhouettes.

Liking your own post? For shame!

But I'll forgive you if you go back and add it.

As much as we'd probably accomplish by becoming a hybrid gninja-megazord, Liz and I are still two people. Alas.

Forget the sixteen silhouettes. Where do I vote to see that?

Hybrid gninja-magazord: CONFIRMED FOR BESTIARY 6!

Will we be seeing psionic dragons like the old gem dragons. I always thought they were neat.

Will we be seeing psionic dragons like the old gem dragons. I always thought they were neat.

Psst, Psionic Dragons for Pathfinder are here. Or, if you want print, they are here.

Will we be seeing psionic dragons like the old gem dragons. I always thought they were neat.

I believe they've said the dragons for Bestiary 5 are going to be related to some of the occult planes; the dream dragon and the nightmare dragon have been name-dropped (and dream dragon shown here). Since Paizo usually restricts themselves to one kind of dragon for more bestiaries barring the first one, I doubt we'll be getting gem dragons, though I wouldn't be surprised if they have some psychic abilities...

The dragons will be occult themed and will be called esoteric dragons. We do not know what all 5 types will be called yet.

I picked the robot simply because I know plenty of people don't want to see a robot.

I will be very sad if the Mantis shrimp can't be used as a vermin companion.

I'll be very happy! Because that means awesome boat-destroying dire mantis shrimp and not the animal-planet critter I fear it is.

And the Robot fights a good-aligmnent looking Outsider, so I don't really care who wins there.

The dire mantis shrimp can be both awesome and boat-destroying, and a vermin companion. Since animal companion stats are weaker versions of the normal creature... though I doubt they'll put in any vermin companions.

I think putting them both in the Bestiary 5 would be good, as then both have what they want.

But I would find it strange if the artwork choice would be the normal mantisshrimp and not the dire one.

They would have to explain that to me if they would do it as the internet is full of normal mantis shrimp pictures.

But familiars are MOSTLY pictures with a owner, I mean the fox was with a Paizo celebrity character and the previous familiar in bestiary 3 too. So I hope and pray this is the Dire MantisShrimp silliouette.

I am sure the shrimp will be giant not dire.

Yes that is pretty much the same for me. I like that as well. Mantisshrimps doesnt need to be dire to be dangerous afteral.

Besides in Pathfinder dire animals are supposed to based on prehistoric versions of existing animals.

Besides in Pathfinder dire animals are supposed to based on prehistoric versions of existing animals.

So there Is hope for a dire koala as a prehistoric giant koala... would be a very small dire creature though.... Though dire rats exist I suppose.

Who needs dire koala when you have the Drop Bear? :-p

It would be nice to see some giant rats like the one that the ratfolk is riding in B3.

It would be nice to see some giant rats like the one that the ratfolk is riding in B3.

Didn't it say in the Monster Codex that the rat in question is just a dire rat with the giant simple template, as well as offering animal companion statistics for it?

That rat looked to be at least large size. If I remember isn't a dire rat only small size.

Ratfolk are Small, so unless the rat was really really bigger than the ratfolk (like, talking comparing a human to a killer whale rather than comparing a human to a horse) it could have been Medium just fine.

Who needs dire koala when you have the Drop Bear? :-p

Sshhh... You know they are forbidden :P

This is probably the image Dragon78 is referring to. We know male ratfolk are generally between 3'9" and 4'3", on average 4' tall (females being 3" shorter on average, but it looks like a male to me). Not counting the tail, I'd say the rat creature is about one and a half times as long as the rat would be standing up straight, maybe one and two-thirds, though that's just a guesstimate, which would put it around six to seven feet long, not counting the tail, presuming the ratfolk is average height for a ratfolk, which I think puts it comfortably at Medium.

Yep. You don't hit Large until you start reaching 9 or 10 feet tall for things like Ogres and Trolls. 6/7 is well within the high end of humanoid heights.

The dire mantis shrimp can be both awesome and boat-destroying, and a vermin companion. Since animal companion stats are weaker versions of the normal creature... though I doubt they'll put in any vermin companions.

Yeah I doubt they will ever touch on Vermin companions ever again but I can get my hopes up. There just weren't that many decent options for someone who wanted to run a verminous hunter but didn't want to use scorpion or mantis

It doesn't change the fact I would like to see large size giant rats and/or a magical beast version of a giant rat.

It doesn't change the fact I would like to see large size giant rats and/or a magical beast version of a giant rat.

You may wish to check out the kirrix (Monster Codex, pg. 184).

It's even getting a miniature in the next set.

How can a sea creature be a land familiar? Im sure the mantisshrimp isnt a familiar. Because it cant travel on land. It only works in underwater adventures.

How can a sea creature be a land familiar? Im sure the mantisshrimp isnt a familiar. Because it cant travel on land. It only works in underwater adventures.

1. You're the only one talking about familiars. Everyone else is talking about vermin companions.

But they are only suited for limited adventures.

But they are only suited for limited adventures.

Your point? Some people play characters in aquatic themed campaigns, I'd be fine having an aquatic familiar in a pirate campaign for example. There is even a whole third-party campaign setting set underwater.

I haven't seen them stat vermin into companions in a long time.

I was the other person who brought up mantis shrimp familiars.

A big mantis shrimp is about as big as a rat, putting it in the Tiny size category.

So a normal one is in the right size range for familiars, but a bit too small for a companion.

Though we might be getting bigger ones in B5.

You could have a crab or octopus familiar (or a mantis shrimp) and just carry it around in a fishbowl.

I've used a Moray Eel as an animal companion before. Its not the biggest deal in the world especially since a giant mantis shrimp would probably have a land speed and all you need to do is keep em wet.

My dream would be a Deep One hybrid Verminous hunter with a Mantis Shrimp companion

Are we gonna see the results today?

Yes! We estimate ~3 PM Pacific time :)

Thanks! Can't wait! Curious what we gonna see revealed next!

I can't wait to see what will be revealed as well.