The Literary Origins of Science Fiction in Fantasy Settings

Thursday, September 4, 2014


"Do you know about other worlds? Don't you believe the stars are only huge jewels?"
The Swords of Lankhmar, Fritz Leiber
Illustration by Caio Maciel Monteiro

With the release of Pathfinder Adventure Path #85: "The Fires of Creation", the first adventure in the Iron Gods Adventure Path, I thought it was worth taking a moment to talk about the literary origins of mixing science-fiction elements into fantasy settings.


Illustration by Ian Llanas

The origins of the Iron Gods Adventure Path itself are pretty clear. The seeds of advanced technology in Golarion go back to its inception, and descriptions of Numeria, Alkenstar, the Red Redoubt of Karamoss, and the Ruins of Kho have always included a level of technology much different than most of the rest of the Inner Sea. Golarion is a world where scraps of ancient lost technology exist in limited quantities, and it makes sense that at least one adventure path explore that aspect of the world. This follows a long tradition of mixing science fiction and fantasy elements in roleplaying games, dating back to near the beginning of the hobby.

The RPG hobby is in turn built on a long tradition of genre-blurring stories, dating back to at least the early 1700s. Earlier speculative fiction didn't mostly bother to define a difference between science fiction and fantasy. Jonathan Swift's 1726 novel Gulliver's Travels was written as a satire, but it is also arguably an early work of mixed science fiction and fantasy. Beyond the well-known fantasy races of Lilliputians and Brobdingnagians, protagonist Gulliver encounters many other places including both the flying city of Laputa (a city of pure scientific thought and clear antecedent of Kho), and a land of magicians (Glubbdubdrib) where magic largely replaces technology.

Although not the same as most modern fantasy, another common category of early speculative fiction that often blends advanced technology and magic is the "lost world" genre, where a modern character discovers a fantastic land unknown to the rest of civilization. In some lost world books the discovery is the result of an exploratory expedition (such as is the case for Jules Verne's 1864 novel Journey to the Center of the Earth, an early example of the genre), while in other cases the discovery is entirely accidental (as in Edward Bulwer-Lyrtton's 1871 novel Vril, the Power of the Coming Race).

Similar is the planetary romance genre, where the foreign land is generally on other planets. One can argue that Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom (from A Princess of Mars, and a series of novels that follow) is pure science fiction, with its airships and radium pistols, but the fact that most conflict is handled through swordplay reveals its fantasy roots. The blending of science and magic is even clearer in related stories by Burroughs, the most obvious example being "The Wizard of Venus," where planetary explorer Carson Napier learns extraordinary powers from the titular Venusian wizard.

Many novels of the 1930s-1970s combined fantasy and science fiction in one setting, often inspired by the tradition of Barsoom and the planetary romances. The fiction of Michael Moorcock is one of the original influences for fantasy RPG settings, and includes multiple cases of high science elements. Most extensively, the adventures of Hawkmoon (who, as an incarnation of the Eternal Champion, is connected to the better-known Elric of Melniboné,) take place in a world that appears to be a post-apocalyptic version of Europe. Magic is commonplace, but sorcerer-scientists also often have access to ancient advanced technology, including the Black Jewel, which is implanted into Hawkmoon by his enemies to monitor his movements. Ursula K. Le Guin's 1966 novel Rocannon's World has fewer directly magic elements, but does describe the travels of a scientist with advanced knowledge through an alien land of castes and swordsmen. Poul Anderson's 1961 novel Three Hearts and Three Lions presents a protagonist from the modern "real" world who ends up in a parallel world where magic and trolls are real.

Instances where science fiction elements enter an existing, established pure-fantasy setting are less common but far from unknown. Robert E. Howard's fantasy character Conan encounters an alien in the 1933 short story "The Tower of the Elephant." Fritz Leiber's quintessential rogue and barbarian team Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser run into a time traveler in his 1968 novel The Swords of Lankhmar. Time travel and planetary travel both come into play in C.L. Moore and Henry Kuttner's 1937 story "Quest of the Starstone," in which fantasy swordswoman Jirel of Joiry must deal with Northwest Smith, a smuggler and scoundrel hired from a tavern on Mars in her own far-flung future. (Those interest in seeing how that particular situation is resolved can read the story in Black God's Kiss, still available from paizo.com.)

The existence of fantasy tales that added a dash of high science is no reason for groups that dislike blending the two ideas to feel they must change their minds, but it is one of the reasons other groups love having the option to through a little more sci-fi into their fantasy games.

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My hellenistic fantasy setting can be described as Science Fiction.

Ever since I heard about how ingenious the Hellenistic Greeks were, I took the ideas and have been running with them ever since. In the latest version of GURPS Biotech, there is a setting called Alexander Atheneos (I believe it's titled). Basically, the writer extrapolated as to what might have happened if Hippocrates did not take his oath to Asclepius seriously but applied his medical knowledge for the advancement of Knowledge. He started to test whether or not the Mythical stories of Divine Byblows are true or not by impregnating his slave girls with all manner of biological material and checking the results.

Of course, he found out that the Myths are not true when it came to Leda and the Swan, and all sorts of different myths that produced Divine Byblows. His disciples took this and ran, however. They created antibiotics and used them to save Alexander. They managed to take it further and create cloning and cross-species Hybrids (a Chimpanzee/Human hybrid, obviously the writer missed the part about chimpanzees being incredibly violent).

I took the basic ideas and applied them to the Alchemist class and ran with it, trying to logically describe each and every Archetype. Instead of Hippocrates being on the cutting edge, however, I have Alexander's doctor suffer a nervous breakdown when Alexander died. On regaining his sanity, he renounced the Hippocratic Oath and started training Alchemists!

The whole story is thus: Alchemy in the Hellenistic Empire.


EltonJ wrote:
Of course, he found out that the Myths are not true when it came to Leda and the Swan, and all sorts of different myths that produced Divine Byblows. His disciples took this and ran, however. They created antibiotics and used them to save Alexander. They managed to take it further and create cloning and cross-species Hybrids (a Chimpanzee/Human hybrid, obviously the writer missed the part about chimpanzees being incredibly violent).

While a neat concept and an interesting way to put some weird stuff into the game, I'm not sure why anyone would think that showing that women couldn't breed with regular swans says anything about the tale of Zeus in swan form impregnating Leda.


Think about it. First of all, I'm a Christian so I can only give of my experience.

Living in that time, testing the myths about the birth of Helen and Castor would be a natural extension of what Philosophers would probably do. They would want to test to see if it's possible and if Man can duplicate what God has done.

They would destroy the myths about Helen and Castor with these tests, because animals are genetically different from human beings and so chimaeraism is not possible. This dispels the foundation of Greece's epic poem. And so you will have people going out and expressing their disbelief in the pregnancy of Leda (people did anyhow, but they would have proof!).

Fast forward to today. People laughed, or probably found it disbelieving when Paul of Tarsus said that in our day, there would be scoffers and disbelievers who would say that there is no such thing as a Second Coming of Jesus, and many are saying that Jesus didn't exist.

However, the prophecy has come true. Christianity is attacked, and most astrologers believe that this is because the Church is linked to the Age of Pisces. This isn't true, the symbolism of the Church is linked to Virgo, the virgin, which is opposite to Pisces. But the result is the same.

The difference between the two scoffers is that scoffers in the above Alexandrian setting would say that Zeus couldn't have impregnated Leda as a swan; which is biologically true, thus they are scoffing something that is false. The scoffers and unbelievers in Christ today are scoffing something that is True, saying that its false.

The difference is telling. Zeus religion is Ancestor worship, pure and simple. Zeus couldn't have lived long enough to impregnate Leda. That, and Castor and Pollux represents both Peleg and his brother -- who founded two Civilizations -- one in the West (Peleg) and one in the East (his brother).

Christianity is the real religion. It existed in the Age of Leo (Adam and Enoch), in the Age of Cancer (Noah or Nereus), in the Age of Gemini (Heber, Peleg, and Job), and in the Age of Taurus (Abraham, Issac, Israel, and Joseph). Moses tried to restore Christianity at Jebel al Lawz (Sinai) at the start of the Age of Aries, but destroyed the first tablets and returned with the foundation of Judaism.

At the end of the Age of Aries, Christ had come and was lifted up on the Cross. Christianity was restored, but represented by the Virgin. What was represented by Pisces was something else. Now we are moving into the Age of Aquarius, and what actually represents Pisces is blind acceptance of an authority without thinking.

The Scoffers against Christianity are one of the last gasps of Pisces. Also, Islam -- a truly Piscean religion -- is struggling to survive as people are leaving Islam as strongly as people are leaving Christianity. The difference between the two is that the Latter allows a man to worship (or not) according to his own Conscious, while Islam acts like a jealous wife.


... what does astrology have to do with Christianity? What?

People scoffed at Christianity in Paul's day as much or more as ours.

EDIT: I know few of us who were killed just for being Christian. It does happen, but in many more places Christianity is the dominant religion. There is a great falling away, but most of what you're saying looks like nonsense and weirdness.

You look less like your citing Scripture, and more like your citing occult oddness added onto Christian teachings from beyond any scripture or recognized organized Christian Tradition I'm aware of.


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EltonJ wrote:

Think about it. First of all, I'm a Christian so I can only give of my experience.

Living in that time, testing the myths about the birth of Helen and Castor would be a natural extension of what Philosophers would probably do. They would want to test to see if it's possible and if Man can duplicate what God has done.

They would destroy the myths about Helen and Castor with these tests, because animals are genetically different from human beings and so chimaeraism is not possible. This dispels the foundation of Greece's epic poem. And so you will have people going out and expressing their disbelief in the pregnancy of Leda (people did anyhow, but they would have proof!).

Fast forward to today. People laughed, or probably found it disbelieving when Paul of Tarsus said that in our day, there would be scoffers and disbelievers who would say that there is no such thing as a Second Coming of Jesus, and many are saying that Jesus didn't exist.

However, the prophecy has come true. Christianity is attacked, and most astrologers believe that this is because the Church is linked to the Age of Pisces. This isn't true, the symbolism of the Church is linked to Virgo, the virgin, which is opposite to Pisces. But the result is the same.

The difference between the two scoffers is that scoffers in the above Alexandrian setting would say that Zeus couldn't have impregnated Leda as a swan; which is biologically true, thus they are scoffing something that is false. The scoffers and unbelievers in Christ today are scoffing something that is True, saying that its false.

The difference is telling. Zeus religion is Ancestor worship, pure and simple. Zeus couldn't have lived long enough to impregnate Leda. That, and Castor and Pollux represents both Peleg and his brother -- who founded two Civilizations -- one in the West (Peleg) and one in the East (his brother).

Christianity is the real religion. It existed in the Age of Leo (Adam and Enoch), in the Age of Cancer (Noah or Nereus), in the Age of...

Okay.

<backs away slowly>


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EltonJ wrote:
Gulliver's Travels is an imagination run wild. The only kingdom that is real in the whole thing is Japan, and I don't think Jonathan Swift might have not visited Japan (at least not modern Japan).

I'm not sure how that last sentence is supposed to parse, but I daresay that a man who died in 1745 will not have visited modern Japan.

EltonJ wrote:
I learned of a Scientist who disproved Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. This makes technological teleportation possible and Hard Science Fiction.

First I've heard of this. Cite?


Ed Reppert wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Gulliver's Travels is an imagination run wild. The only kingdom that is real in the whole thing is Japan, and I don't think Jonathan Swift might have not visited Japan (at least not modern Japan).

I'm not sure how that last sentence is supposed to parse, but I daresay that a man who died in 1745 will not have visited modern Japan.

EltonJ wrote:
I learned of a Scientist who disproved Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. This makes technological teleportation possible and Hard Science Fiction.
First I've heard of this. Cite?

I'm also not sure that it was Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle that prevented teleportation.

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