Bestiary 4 Table of Contents

Will the velociraptor be different from the "Deinonychus with young template" from Bestiary 1?

No love for phasm and arrowhawk

*checking download list hourly

Ravid?? I don't spoil myself on that list, but is Ravid in?

NO Bakeneko or Nekomata? MANY people wished for those? Are there other plans with these?

Please don't tell me some 3rd company had already took them...?

Happy to see somebody mention the Hyakume, That will be the beholder (hopefully) of pathfinder!

Sad to see Velociraptor made it in... Rather see more unique dinosaurs, but there are 5 and I only know about the bird familiar, Styracosaurus and Velociraptor.

THere is still a chance for Therizinosaurus, the only dinosaur I still like to see because its so unique.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no Ravid, no Bakeneko, no Nekomata, and no Therizinosaurus.

Lots of other cool stuff to look forward to though.

LOTS of cool stuff.

I'm happy to see my Fomorian as a titan. Judging from its page number, it's definitely in the "T" section :D

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no Ravid, no Bakeneko, no Nekomata, and no Therizinosaurus.

Lots of other cool stuff to look forward to though.

Like Dire Weasels, GIant Weasels and Velociraptors? nah I don't believe you! :-p

Tinkergoth wrote:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no Ravid, no Bakeneko, no Nekomata, and no Therizinosaurus.

Lots of other cool stuff to look forward to though.

Like Dire Weasels, GIant Weasels and Velociraptors? nah I don't believe you! :-p

How about all manner of really obscure mythological creatures? I remember that was 99% of your wishlist posts.

I know I know, I was just kiddn with the Weasel/Velociraptor post.

I'm just sad that Nekomata did'n't get some love while I really really thought it would be in this time.

I count 254 creatures didn't they say that there was 300+ creatures in the book?

Nice to see the archaeopteryx.

I'm still hoping for a Coelurosauravus at some point to have as a familiar/animal companion. There's just something primeval about them :-)

I count 254 creatures didn't they say that there was 300+ creatures in the book?

No,

Bestiary 4 has more than 300 pages and features hundreds of monsters[...]

300+ pages. not 300+ monsters.

Hundreds of monsters does more sound like 300 than 200 hundred to me...

Sad to see its 50 less than the previous bestiary 3... probably because of the many 2 pages-monsters.

Elohim? James, did you just decide to stat a god? Or does the name have more menings than one?

Apart from that.. MORE DARK FOLK.!! Wuhu!!

The Elohim are monsters, not a god. This is an example of using a real world word to describe a monster. IIRC, there was a race of aliens called "elohim" from d20 modern, so this is not even the first time they appear.

Ha, Spring-Heeled Jack!

Also fun with the new Dark Folk, Tuatara, Huldra, Svartalfar and the Manitou.

Dragon78 wrote:

I count 254 creatures didn't they say that there was 300+ creatures in the book?

No,

Blog announcement wrote:

Bestiary 4 has more than 300 pages and features hundreds of monsters[...]

300+ pages. not 300+ monsters.

The product description States over 300 monsters though.

ya but thats like one swarm

Over 300 monsters and animals are not monsters so they don't count :-p

So that means there are even less than 250 monsters. As Giraffe, Stag and other such animals aren't monsters. ;-)

I can't wait to see the Hyakume.

Are there pictures among the spoilers?

Threeshades wrote:

Dragon78 wrote:

I count 254 creatures didn't they say that there was 300+ creatures in the book?

No,

Blog announcement wrote:

Bestiary 4 has more than 300 pages and features hundreds of monsters[...]

300+ pages. not 300+ monsters.

The product description States over 300 monsters though.

You're right, i didn't spot that beforehand. Maybe it counts the different ages of dragons and such things as different monsters?

Probably not though, could be a typo, based on the "over 300 pages" thing.

ya but thats like one swarm

Heh, but it actually says "different monsters" so unless it's a mixed swarm...

Though it might never happen again

That would be the worst mistake ever unless a new version of pathfinder 4 will be released in the meantime.

Cuz I can't remember anything getting so much attention and love as the bestiaries.

And there are SO much creatures left to cover, with only proteans you can already cover 20 pages, with new demons and devils even more, the possibilities are endless.

ANd Nekomata, Akaname, Kikimora, Karkadann & Batibat really need to be in a Bestiary of Pathfinder, even if its just to make D&D jealous.

Will there be a weasel template? I look forward to assaulting my players with velociweasels.

Will there be a weasel template? I look forward to assaulting my players with velociweasels.

You mean weaselociraptors?

There is something for my homebrew to-do list.

Might I take a moment then, to sharply criticize the distinct lack of rodents of the squirrely variety in this list?

Will the velociraptor be different from the "Deinonychus with young template" from Bestiary 1?

Slightly, yes. We've done similar things with similar animals and vermin as well, though.

Hundreds of monsters does more sound like 300 than 200 hundred to me...

Sad to see its 50 less than the previous bestiary 3... probably because of the many 2 pages-monsters.

At this point, we're no longer trying to populate the game with the baseline things we need to do 2 Adventure Paths a year. Now that we're on the 4th Bestiary, we have the luxury to slow down a little and to expand into more 2 page monsters... which in a book that includes things of up to CR 30 is really really really handy.

And never fear... there's always more monsters to come!

*In a Professor Farnsworth voice* Pazuzu!!!

Hastur!

If there are less monsters per Bestiary then we need to have more hardcover bestiaries;) So next year must be a Bestiary 5 or I will be a sad (flesh eating) panda:(

I'll just tease by saying there is more in this book to do with dark folk than just the dark caller and dark dancer. There's a related monster too.

DON'T DO THIS TO ME DAIGLE! YOU AREN'T MAKING THIS WAIT FOR MY PREORDER ANY EASIER!

Now.

Are any of these of a CR lower then 2 or are they all around or over CR 3?

F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

There are others that we could do if we were completionists, but we've picked up all the ones we're keen on now.

No arrowhawk? I always kind of liked those. More than the tojanida, anyway.

Who knows, maybe we'll do Misfit Monsters Redeemed II someday but for now...

Pickle punk? That sounds silly.

Just googled it.

UNDEAD FORMALDEHYDE FETUS MONSTER

D:

Where's the trust? As if we did't have hundreds of semi-obscure horror, occult, and paranormal oddities scrambling for places in these bestiaries. ;P

Soooo...is it similar to FFIV's?

They're probably most like the living wall we did in Dragon back in the way. If you don't have that handy, well, they're kind of their own thing.

Also, I'm really excited to see more Kytons - they are important to my modified Curse of the Crimson Throne Campaign!

Glad to see so much love for the kytons. The ostairus is a very recent pick up from Shattered Star #64: Beyond the Doomsday Door (if you didn't see the page of kyton philosophy and propaganda in there, you are missing out!). The sacristan is something entirely new... kind of a bruiser... with a portal to the Plane of Shadow locked in his fused shut mouth. So pretty humdrum as kytons go. ;P

I'll just tease by saying there is more in this book to do with dark folk than just the dark caller and dark dancer. There's a related monster too.

Nice, man. ;)

Umbral Reaver wrote:

Pickle punk? That sounds silly.

Just googled it.

UNDEAD FORMALDEHYDE FETUS MONSTER

D:

Where's the trust? As if we did't have hundreds of semi-obscure horror, occult, and paranormal oddities scrambling for places in these bestiaries. ;P

I was exaggerating the horrified response for fun. I've spent plenty of time making my own creatures of hideous nature. There was one that cast vomit swarm using its enemies as the point of origin instead of itself. You have to fight through the swarms pouring out of your own mouth to reach the monster.

Elohim? James, did you just decide to stat a god? Or does the name have more menings than one?

There are several other creatures in B4 that fall into the category of god, much more than the elohim.

We play a bit fast and loose with these guys from a world religion perspective, very much treating them as gods with a lower-case "g." That said, that doesn't make them any less god-like in their influence over creation and their role in the multiverse.

You'll see...

I'm happy to see my Fomorian as a titan. Judging from its page number, it's definitely in the "T" section :D

Cagey, sir.

I count 254 creatures didn't they say that there was 300+ creatures in the book?

Gotta love them variants, among a few other tricks that also don't get listed in the TOC.

F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

Umbral Reaver wrote:

Pickle punk? That sounds silly.

Just googled it.

UNDEAD FORMALDEHYDE FETUS MONSTER

D:

Where's the trust? As if we did't have hundreds of semi-obscure horror, occult, and paranormal oddities scrambling for places in these bestiaries. ;P

I was exaggerating the horrified response for fun. I've spent plenty of time making my own creatures of hideous nature. There was one that cast vomit swarm using its enemies as the point of origin instead of itself. You have to fight through the swarms pouring out of your own mouth to reach the monster.

That spread with the pickled punk and pipefox: easily my favorite in the whole book. :D

Mikaze wrote:

And Dark Caller calls to mind some awesome possibilities...

Somebody has to run the Dark Square Dances.

Other comments:
- Colour out of space: Let's see WizKids make a miniature out of this one.
- Immense tortoise: If this can't be confused for an island, I'll be disappointed. Oh, and let's see WizKids make a miniature out of this one.
- Rukh: I wonder how this is different from a roc.
- Shadow creature: I hope I can simulate the (original?) non-undead shadows with this. I could probably homebrew one easily enough, but...

Color Out of Space first appeared in Carrion Crown AP. It's handled as an ooze creature there.

Rukh first appeared as a 3.5e creature in the Legacy of Fire AP. It's a giant two-headed vulture.

Shadow creature first appeared in the Advanced Race Guide with the shadow caller summoner archetype for fetchlings (link to PRD). It's basically another variant on the celestial/fiendish/entropic/resolute creature simple templates, except for a creature from the plane of shadow.

Boilborn, well that sounds disturbing.

I wonder if any of these creatures are elementals.

Threeshades wrote:

Will the velociraptor be different from the "Deinonychus with young template" from Bestiary 1?

Slightly, yes. We've done similar things with similar animals and vermin as well, though.

Gah! Inconsistencies!?

lol. Just kidding. It's really very minor.

It's actually good they take the templated monsters and make them their own thing for Polymorph purposes. Since by the rules, you can't polymorph into an animal with templates, by RAW, you can't polymorph into a Velociraptor or Polar Bear or Great White Shark. So I'm glad to see these made into real animals.

That's a GREAT point!

Oh wow.

I wonder what the Cephalophore would be? Fey, outsider, or maybe a non-evil undead*?

*according to wikipedia, they're often depicted as decapitated saints.

I wonder what the Cephalophore would be? Fey, outsider, or maybe a non-evil undead*?

*according to wikipedia, they're often depicted as decapitated saints.

If it's the one from Shattered Star, it's a construct.

Ah, sort of like a carytid column, then.