paizo.com Recent Comments on Thieves Vinegarpaizo.com Recent Comments on Thieves Vinegar2013-02-20T23:40:01Z2013-02-20T23:40:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarCzarbuckshttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#202018-07-27T20:57:39Z2018-07-27T20:57:39Z<p>This was pretty cool, I enjoyed the dark humor.</p>This was pretty cool, I enjoyed the dark humor.Czarbucks2018-07-27T20:57:39ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarBelabras (alias of Jeremy Corff)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#192015-11-14T00:38:19Z2015-11-14T00:38:19Z<p>I was pleasantly surprised to discover another Orlin and Norret story here.</p>
<p>Here's me hoping we might get a future novel about Galt's two unlikely sons?</p>I was pleasantly surprised to discover another Orlin and Norret story here.
Here's me hoping we might get a future novel about Galt's two unlikely sons?Belabras (alias of Jeremy Corff)2015-11-14T00:38:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarItchyhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#182013-04-04T11:24:29Z2013-04-04T11:24:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">勝20100 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I was glad to see Norret back in another story, I really like the character. It was interesting reading the story from the viewpoint of his brother. I think Mr Murphy managed to give it a different tone than the previous stories, by using a different style.
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As other mentioned before, I’d gladly read another novel with Norret, or better, a book. </blockquote><p>If you are absolutely <i>starving</i> for more Norret/Orlin fiction. You could pick up the Reign of Winter Adventure Path that is currently being released. Each book has a chapter of the Norret/Orlin novella that Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote for the AP.
<p>I haven't started reading it yet because I'm waiting for the full story to come out, but I did glance in enough to make sure it was a Norret/Orlin Tale. When I get the last book, I'll sit down one night after the kids are asleep and read the whole thing through. Which reminds me that I need to do that with the novella in the Shattered Star AP...</p>
<p>-Aaron</p>勝20100 wrote:I was glad to see Norret back in another story, I really like the character. It was interesting reading the story from the viewpoint of his brother. I think Mr Murphy managed to give it a different tone than the previous stories, by using a different style.
As other mentioned before, I’d gladly read another novel with Norret, or better, a book.
If you are absolutely starving for more Norret/Orlin fiction. You could pick up the Reign of Winter Adventure Path that is currently...Itchy2013-04-04T11:24:29ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves Vinegar勝20100https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#172013-04-03T21:43:23Z2013-04-03T21:43:23Z<p>I was glad to see Norret back in another story, I really like the character. It was interesting reading the story from the viewpoint of his brother. I think Mr Murphy managed to give it a different tone than the previous stories, by using a different style.
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As other mentioned before, I’d gladly read another novel with Norret, or better, a book.</p>I was glad to see Norret back in another story, I really like the character. It was interesting reading the story from the viewpoint of his brother. I think Mr Murphy managed to give it a different tone than the previous stories, by using a different style.
As other mentioned before, I’d gladly read another novel with Norret, or better, a book.勝201002013-04-03T21:43:23ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarMatthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#162013-02-06T13:18:40Z2013-02-06T13:18:40Z<p>The attention to detail is what I love about KAM's writing too. I've been reading long enough that I don't honestly remember if my own love of 'how the world works' is influenced by him or if it is parallel development. :-)</p>
<p>Aside joke for KAM. I am seriously thinking about playing an Aasimar (Peri-blooded) and working up to the wings trick. Just so at 10th level...
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[Spoiler omitted]</p>The attention to detail is what I love about KAM's writing too. I've been reading long enough that I don't honestly remember if my own love of 'how the world works' is influenced by him or if it is parallel development. :-)
Aside joke for KAM. I am seriously thinking about playing an Aasimar (Peri-blooded) and working up to the wings trick. Just so at 10th level...
[Spoiler omitted]Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)2013-02-06T13:18:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarThanaelhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#152013-02-06T07:13:27Z2013-02-06T07:13:27Z<p>Also love the attention to detail, esp. concerning the magic system and the metaphysical explanations. Few authors make such a good use of D&D's quirky magic imho.</p>
<p>Re: Orlin's apparent in action: you have to remember he casts subconsciously. And you might count Rhodel's actions as Orlin's depending on if she's a real ghost or just made up by Orlin via ghost sound and silent image (which would also explain his inaction as he has to concentrate (subconsciously even!:-) to maintain the image.</p>
<p>Or is Rhodel real? She does not appear to be haunting him very malevolently btw...</p>Also love the attention to detail, esp. concerning the magic system and the metaphysical explanations. Few authors make such a good use of D&D's quirky magic imho.
Re: Orlin's apparent in action: you have to remember he casts subconsciously. And you might count Rhodel's actions as Orlin's depending on if she's a real ghost or just made up by Orlin via ghost sound and silent image (which would also explain his inaction as he has to concentrate (subconsciously even!:-) to maintain the image.
...Thanael2013-02-06T07:13:27ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarKevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#142013-01-04T17:42:37Z2013-01-04T17:42:37Z<p>MaxKaladin—</p>
<p>Alternating between Norret and Orlin is a possibility. It depends mostly on the story being told.</p>
<p>Tangaroa—</p>
<p>But what if you like twenty-seven protagonists? But that's generally better for telling the saga of a world, or an epic. One or two or three is generally enough for most standalone books. (Then again, I've also worked on the Wild Cards mosaic novels.)</p>
<p>Trinite—</p>
<p>Yes, you were right about the syrup. Poor Orlin could have profited by that knowledge. Glad you enjoyed the twists and the story.</p>
<p>Itchy/Aaron—</p>
<p>Descriptions are something I pay careful attention to. You can let readers know so much about what a character knows and values through their perceptions, plus descriptions are a great place to hide clues for a mystery, illuminate the world, and have fun in general. (The "turduckeon" in Prodigal Sons is based on a similar dish once served for Queen Elizabeth, and the other feast items are based on assorted medieval spectacle dishes.) I'm glad you're enjoying the stories and descriptions and coming back and rereading them.</p>MaxKaladin--
Alternating between Norret and Orlin is a possibility. It depends mostly on the story being told.
Tangaroa--
But what if you like twenty-seven protagonists? But that's generally better for telling the saga of a world, or an epic. One or two or three is generally enough for most standalone books. (Then again, I've also worked on the Wild Cards mosaic novels.)
Trinite--
Yes, you were right about the syrup. Poor Orlin could have profited by that knowledge. Glad you enjoyed the...Kevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)2013-01-04T17:42:37ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarItchyhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#132013-01-03T13:10:34Z2013-01-03T13:10:34Z<p><b>The Devil is in the Details</b></p>
<p>Slightly off topic, but I just finished reading <i>Prodigal Sons</i>, which Kevin Andrew Murphy contributed to, and I think I finally hit on what I truly enjoy about his writing. </p>
<p>Kevin Andrew Murphy provides detailed yet entertaining descriptions of key environments or aspects of the story. Instead of the dry, "A lavish feast was laid out on the table." He provides a lavish and funny description of how to make a Turduckeon from fantasy animals along with the other accoutrements that are on the table. In the Norrett/Orlin stories it comes out in his descriptions of the science of how alchemy and magic work. It's what keeps me coming back and rereading these stories.</p>
<p>-Aaron</p>The Devil is in the Details
Slightly off topic, but I just finished reading Prodigal Sons, which Kevin Andrew Murphy contributed to, and I think I finally hit on what I truly enjoy about his writing.
Kevin Andrew Murphy provides detailed yet entertaining descriptions of key environments or aspects of the story. Instead of the dry, "A lavish feast was laid out on the table." He provides a lavish and funny description of how to make a Turduckeon from fantasy animals along with the other...Itchy2013-01-03T13:10:34ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarTrinitehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#122013-01-03T05:55:31Z2013-01-03T05:55:31Z<p>Sorry, Mr. Murphy. Not Mr. Murchy.</p>Sorry, Mr. Murphy. Not Mr. Murchy.Trinite2013-01-03T05:55:31ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarTrinitehttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#112013-01-02T21:02:26Z2013-01-02T21:02:26Z<p>Ewwww, I was right about the syrup!</p>
<p>Great story,Mr. Murchy, and an excellent twist at the end.</p>Ewwww, I was right about the syrup!
Great story,Mr. Murchy, and an excellent twist at the end.Trinite2013-01-02T21:02:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarTangaroahttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#102012-12-31T21:06:58Z2012-12-31T21:06:58Z<p>2 protagonists max please! 27 is too many (I'm looking at you, fantasy genre!)</p>2 protagonists max please! 27 is too many (I'm looking at you, fantasy genre!)Tangaroa2012-12-31T21:06:58ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarMaxKaladinhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#92012-12-31T00:50:45Z2012-12-31T00:50:45Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zeugma wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I really enjoyed this story, even the gross undead feast, and didn't see the double bluff, though I did figure Norret had something up his sleeve (so to speak). The only thing missing is there was no picture of the feast Norret painted. I think that would have been more fun to illustrate than Nella. ;)
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I like Orlin as a narrator, but I also hope that we get another story where KAM uses Norret's voice, too. They have their own points of view on things so it would be interesting. It would also be cool to see Rhodel as a narrator some time.</p>
<p>Also, I second (third?)the KAM Pathfinder novel. </blockquote><p>If they did an Norret/Orlin novel, we could see both doing narration in different parts of the book.Zeugma wrote:I really enjoyed this story, even the gross undead feast, and didn't see the double bluff, though I did figure Norret had something up his sleeve (so to speak). The only thing missing is there was no picture of the feast Norret painted. I think that would have been more fun to illustrate than Nella. ;)
I like Orlin as a narrator, but I also hope that we get another story where KAM uses Norret's voice, too. They have their own points of view on things so it would be interesting....MaxKaladin2012-12-31T00:50:45ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarKevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#82012-12-30T18:12:51Z2012-12-30T18:12:51Z<p>Wow. As James promised, Carmen outdid herself. Really loving the illustration of Nella.</p>
<p>Xorial—</p>
<p>Nella does indeed look like she could be one of the Doctor's companions, and I think he'd happily take her. (And six degrees of separation-wise, I've recently been working on Wild Cards with Paul Cornell, one of the Doctor Who writers. Though I'm an old Who fan too, so it may just be that.)</p>
<p>Matthew—</p>
<p>The fun of mysteries is keeping the surprises coming so that everyone can have fun guessing.</p>
<p>And I'm glad to have answered your question.</p>
<p>Itchy/Aaron—</p>
<p>Thank you. And I'm glad you enjoyed the double bluff with the snuffbox and the white lead paint. A lot of the fun is working with the mythology and metaphysics of the universe, and part of the trouble of keeping a mystery going in a universe with magic is foiling divination.</p>
<p>And I'm glad your friend enjoyed—if that's the right word—Urgathoa's feast.</p>
<p>Zeugma—</p>
<p>Glad you enjoyed. While I think a picture of the painting would have been fun, we're also talking about an old naked dead man, so the NSFW-ness of that would have come into play. Plus I'm really pleased to see the illustrations of Nella and Rhodel, and I would be sorry to lose either of those. As for who is narrator, Orlin is fun, but I do like telling stories from other perspectives as well.</p>
<p>Tacticslion—</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>sunbeam—</p>
<p>Orlin's magic, aside from his spirit hand, tends to be much more in the way of divination, and his spells tend to be more instinctive than purposefully cast. There's also some variation from the usual—Orlin smells the undead, rather than seeing their auras—and he very much wants to be a normal little boy, so he denies a lot of what he's doing or blames it on something else.</p>Wow. As James promised, Carmen outdid herself. Really loving the illustration of Nella.
Xorial--
Nella does indeed look like she could be one of the Doctor's companions, and I think he'd happily take her. (And six degrees of separation-wise, I've recently been working on Wild Cards with Paul Cornell, one of the Doctor Who writers. Though I'm an old Who fan too, so it may just be that.)
Matthew--
The fun of mysteries is keeping the surprises coming so that everyone can have fun guessing.
...Kevin Andrew Murphy (Contributor)2012-12-30T18:12:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves Vinegarsunbeamhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#72012-12-29T16:31:51Z2012-12-29T16:31:51Z<p>I primarily read these stories for escapism.</p>
<p>One thing I find unsatisfactory from this viewpoint is that Orlin doesn't do anything.</p>
<p>He's there, but no magic, no actions. I'm guessing he is a haunted oracle. To me it would be a lot more interesting if he started to use some sort of magic.</p>I primarily read these stories for escapism.
One thing I find unsatisfactory from this viewpoint is that Orlin doesn't do anything.
He's there, but no magic, no actions. I'm guessing he is a haunted oracle. To me it would be a lot more interesting if he started to use some sort of magic.sunbeam2012-12-29T16:31:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarTacticslionhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#62012-12-29T05:46:56Z2012-12-29T05:46:56Z<p>This. Was. Great! :D</p>This. Was. Great! :DTacticslion2012-12-29T05:46:56ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarZeugmahttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#52012-12-29T04:44:00Z2012-12-29T04:44:00Z<p>I really enjoyed this story, even the gross undead feast, and didn't see the double bluff, though I did figure Norret had something up his sleeve (so to speak). The only thing missing is there was no picture of the feast Norret painted. I think that would have been more fun to illustrate than Nella. ;)
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I like Orlin as a narrator, but I also hope that we get another story where KAM uses Norret's voice, too. They have their own points of view on things so it would be interesting. It would also be cool to see Rhodel as a narrator some time.</p>
<p>Also, I second (third?)the KAM Pathfinder novel.</p>I really enjoyed this story, even the gross undead feast, and didn't see the double bluff, though I did figure Norret had something up his sleeve (so to speak). The only thing missing is there was no picture of the feast Norret painted. I think that would have been more fun to illustrate than Nella. ;)
I like Orlin as a narrator, but I also hope that we get another story where KAM uses Norret's voice, too. They have their own points of view on things so it would be interesting. It would also...Zeugma2012-12-29T04:44:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarMatthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#42012-12-29T02:19:24Z2012-12-29T02:19:24Z<p>I agree Itchy.</p>
<p>Also think Dario should see if KAM would write some fiction for his Radiance RPG.</p>I agree Itchy.
Also think Dario should see if KAM would write some fiction for his Radiance RPG.Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)2012-12-29T02:19:24ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarItchyhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#32012-12-29T02:16:08Z2012-12-29T02:16:08Z<p>I also did not see the double bluff with the snuffbox and the white lead paint.</p>
<p>One of my friends wrote to let me know that he was catching up on Web Fiction today. His comment on the Feast of Urgathoa. "Ewwww... I'll bet you really enjoyed that scene, Aaron." My response: "Hey, I'm an entomophage, not a cannibal! But, yeah, it was a great scene."</p>
<p>So... when are we going to see a KAM novel in the Pathfinder Tales line? I'm just curious. </p>
<p>Here is why I am asking: So far to date, I have enjoyed everything that Kevin Andrew Murphy has written in Golarion. That includes the stuff that he has written for Wayfinder. I'll admit that <i>The Secret of the Rose and Glove</i> took a second reading for me to REALLY figure out what was going on, but that's not a bad thing. He has the best descriptions of alchemy and magic that I have seen.</p>
<p>-Aaron</p>I also did not see the double bluff with the snuffbox and the white lead paint.
One of my friends wrote to let me know that he was catching up on Web Fiction today. His comment on the Feast of Urgathoa. "Ewwww... I'll bet you really enjoyed that scene, Aaron." My response: "Hey, I'm an entomophage, not a cannibal! But, yeah, it was a great scene."
So... when are we going to see a KAM novel in the Pathfinder Tales line? I'm just curious.
Here is why I am asking: So far to date, I have...Itchy2012-12-29T02:16:08ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves VinegarMatthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#22012-12-28T14:12:03Z2012-12-28T14:12:03Z<p>Ah, I guessed the secret chest, but didn't guess the double bluff.</p>
<p>Also glad to see my question answered...</p>Ah, I guessed the secret chest, but didn't guess the double bluff.
Also glad to see my question answered...Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)2012-12-28T14:12:03ZForums: Pathfinder Tales: Paizo Blog: Thieves Vinegarxorialhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5lea1?Thieves-Vinegar#12012-12-27T22:00:56Z2012-12-27T22:00:56Z<p>Is it me, or does Nella look like she should be a Companion to the Doctor?</p>Is it me, or does Nella look like she should be a Companion to the Doctor?xorial2012-12-27T22:00:56Z