James Jacobs Creative Director |
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James Jacobs wrote:
Basic D&D went from level 1 to 3.
Expert D&D went from level 3 to 14.
Companion D&D went from level 14 to about 25.
Master D&D went from about 25 to 36.Basic: 1-3
Expert: 4-14
Companion: 15-25
Master: 26-36
Heh... what you're seeing there is a manifestation of my own neurosis, I guess. I often list Pathfinder adventure paths as spanning level arcs like you do in your version above, but that ended up causing a lot of confusion because folks interpreted that method of listing level ranges as implying that there were "level gaps" between adventures. And to apply that logic to your list... "If Basic goes to level 3, but Expert starts at level 4, where are the rules that actually cover the transition from level 3 to level 4?"
I know... it should be obvious that if a level is included in a range, that level is included to the very end up until the next level starts, but after that method of listing level ranges caused some unfortunate confusion not only among our customers but here in-house, I pretty much revised the way I list levels now.
Dazylar |
Heh... what you're seeing there is a manifestation of my own neurosis, I guess. I often list Pathfinder adventure paths as spanning level arcs like you do in your version above, but that ended up causing a lot of confusion because folks interpreted that method of listing level ranges as implying that there were "level gaps" between adventures. And to apply that logic to your list... "If Basic goes to level 3, but Expert starts at level 4, where are the rules that actually cover the transition from level 3 to level 4?"
I know... it should be obvious that if a level is included in a range, that level is included to the very end up until the next level starts, but after that method of listing level ranges caused some unfortunate confusion not only among our customers but here in-house, I pretty much revised the way I list levels now.
I agree - it's not just levels in D&D either. I find age ranges of children's clothes to be just as confusing:
Marks & Spencers has 1-2 years, 3-4 years, 5-6 years and so on - so what do you buy for a child that is 2 and a half?
Mothercare gets round this by going 12-24 months, 24-36 months, 3-4 years, 4-5 years and so on. So you always know what range you're in (or what range your children are in anyway).
And the funniest thing? None of it matters as you end up buying the size that fits! And it's totally unrelated to what size the clothes say they are anyway! Hah!
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Sorry. I like Flumphs. With a little horseradish.
EDIT: James Jacobs replied to me! Big Whoop! I must be getting near to that 1000 posts poster credibility threshold.
Snorter |
And the funniest thing? None of it matters as you end up buying the size that fits! And it's totally unrelated to what size the clothes say they are anyway! Hah!
Just like the advice on 'Scaling the Adventure'.
'Oh, no. My PCs would still have that encounter for breakfast. Throw another 4 of those critters in, give the boss another level of cleric, then we'll call it good...'
Asgetrion |
EDIT: James Jacobs replied to me! Big Whoop! I must be getting near to that 1000 posts poster credibility threshold.
James likes flattery and replies to anyone stroking his ego (or beard). ;P
Err... post counts have nothing to do with any sort of credibility -- take a look at Kay, for example; that poor, delusional guy must have something like 50000+ posts under his belt and he has absolutely no credibility! ;)
Dazylar |
Dazylar wrote:And the funniest thing? None of it matters as you end up buying the size that fits! And it's totally unrelated to what size the clothes say they are anyway! Hah!Just like the advice on 'Scaling the Adventure'.
'Oh, no. My PCs would still have that encounter for breakfast. Throw another 4 of those critters in, give the boss another level of cleric, then we'll call it good...'
Art imitating life, or the other way round? Hmm...
Kevin Reynolds |
This is a lurker above. Its stats, along with those for several other beasties, will be in Misfit Monsters Redeemed.
I thought the Lurker Above looked like a ceiling and dropped down with big ghosty eyes then looking like an enormous manta ray, until it hits its victim, at which point it looks like gleep and glorp from the Hurculoids.