Venice by Night - Bloodlines - V20 Dark Ages

Game Master Dennis Harry

Prince Narses Elysium

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Dramatis Personæ

Our Protagonists

Geoffroi de Clairvaux - Clan Salubri
Lorenzo Cappelli - Clan Cappadocian
Michele Querini - Clan Setite
Ranerius Bernerius - Clan Toreador
Alessandro Khadaji - Clan Ventrue


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I remember the scene now, yes!


Would Alessandro have any knowledge of what imbibing vitae might do (benefits/drawbacks)?

Either directly from instruction or indirectly from what he's witnessed thus far?

As a Player, any benefit to be gained by drinking the Baali's vitae?

I guess I'm trying to find a "hook" to his Hidden Diablerie and if not full on diablerie, maybe a more utilitarian use... like temporarily "borrowing" Disciplines?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

Would Alessandro have any knowledge of what imbibing vitae might do (benefits/drawbacks)?

Either directly from instruction or indirectly from what he's witnessed thus far?

As a Player, any benefit to be gained by drinking the Baali's vitae?

I guess I'm trying to find a "hook" to his Hidden Diablerie and if not full on diablerie, maybe a more utilitarian use... like temporarily "borrowing" Disciplines?

Alyssa would have taught him that imbibing 3 times would Blood Bond him (generally speaking) though Alessandro is safe because he is Bound to Alyssa directly, as she is to him through Vitae sharing. Her Sire is D so her Bond to him was eliminated.

It is rumored that drinking the Blood of Methuselahs, if your Generation was far away enough could confer benefits.

Temporarily borrowing Disciplines is a neat idea for a new Discipline but nothing of the sort exists.

I'm sure at some point that Hidden Diablerie will come into play but I'm not concerned too much about it.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Let's see, we got:
A Salubri, a Setite, a Toreador, a Tremere and a Ventrue...

I wonder if the Tzimisce would embrace Zuana? Nothing bad could happen there


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Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Let's see, we got:

A Salubri, a Setite, a Toreador, a Tremere and a Ventrue...

I wonder if the Tzimisce would embrace Zuana? Nothing bad could happen there

Well, you would need to find one first! :-)


Male Italian (Toreador)
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Let's see, we got:

A Salubri, a Setite, a Toreador, a Tremere and a Ventrue...

I wonder if the Tzimisce would embrace Zuana? Nothing bad could happen there

Well, you would need to find one first! :-)

Never a friendly fiend when you need one :)


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Botted you there Geoffroi.


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I'll give Geoffroi, Ranerius, and Michele a chance to chime in one more time before I move the "main" group along to the good Doctor's residence.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
If not, do you want to try and leap to the next building over to follow Andrew (that would be a Dexterity+Athletics check DC 8 though Potence grants auto successes to that roll). Or just climb back down to catch up with Andrew on foot? No weapons to be found up here.

I'm assuming I expended 1 Blood Pt for Celerity, is this another Blood Point... or is it auto success for having Potence?

Does Catlike Balance help?

And, are we therefore saying ANY Cainite with Potence could do it regardless of Dex & Athletics numbers?

Yes, he will follow Andrew... doesn't want to leave him alone without backup. Whatever Alessandro can provide to someone I'll assume is much more powerful than he.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
If not, do you want to try and leap to the next building over to follow Andrew (that would be a Dexterity+Athletics check DC 8 though Potence grants auto successes to that roll). Or just climb back down to catch up with Andrew on foot? No weapons to be found up here.

I'm assuming I expended 1 Blood Pt for Celerity, is this another Blood Point... or is it auto success for having Potence?

And, are we therefore saying ANY Cainite with Potence could do it regardless of Dex & Athletics numbers?

I don't think a BP for Celerity is necessary here.

If your Potence is high enough then a leap of this nature is feasible, the roll is just to ensure there is no botch. If the space between buildings was wider, I would have required more successes. If the space was smaller, I would have probably just lowered the DC.

Potence here is an auto success (no Blood) but botches can reduce auto successes.

EDIT: Catlike Balance will help if you miss and catch the side of the building to stop a nasty fall.

Andrew is probably not much more powerful than you, if at all, you are both Fledglings created only this year.


Got it!


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?

Wits + Subterfuge, DC targets Willpower. Probably worth buying Subterfuge 3 for 4 XP to give you a 6 dice pool. Only restriction on it is that you cannot Dominate a Vampire with lower Generation, only the same or higher Generation (so 7 - 13 are fair game, 6 or lower, it will auto fail). Of course, it's MOST useful application IMHO, is in Hunting.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?

Dominate 5 might be a good long term goal for Alessandro, with that, you can inhabit the body of a Mortal and move around by day. If you groom a ghoul properly it can be an augmented body on top of that.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?
Dominate 5 might be a good long term goal for Alessandro, with that, you can inhabit the body of a Mortal and move around by day. If you groom a ghoul properly it can be an augmented body on top of that.

That would take 35xp, not counting any other development.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?

Wits + Subterfuge, DC targets Willpower. Probably worth buying Subterfuge 3 for 4 XP to give you a 6 dice pool...

...Of course, it's MOST useful application IMHO, is in Hunting.

Done. Subterfuge 3.

I was thinking more, guards/mortals encountered. Like the two dudes we just encountered.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Got it!

Are you still contemplating what to spend XP on?

If so, 3 Dominate makes sense as Forgetful Mind is super useful.

Done. What would a typical roll look like?

Wits + Subterfuge, DC targets Willpower. Probably worth buying Subterfuge 3 for 4 XP to give you a 6 dice pool...

...Of course, it's MOST useful application IMHO, is in Hunting.

Done. Subterfuge 3.

I was thinking more, guards/mortals encountered. Like the two dudes we just encountered.

That too.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
That would take 35xp, not counting any other development.

It would.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
There it is... The Dice Cult has caught up with me.

Good timing versus the last four rolls!


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Also, last call to spend XP until we get to the next day!


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 25/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Only have 4 unspent XP, so I'll be waiting for a while.


Only have 1xp unspent. Thanks for the suggestions!


Does Mithras fit in here somewhere?

Alyssa Fitz Gilbert. Childe of Vander Fitz Gilbert. Childe of Raoul Snake-Eyes. Childe of Medon. Childe of Ventru. Childe of Ynosh. Childe of Caine.


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 25/40 | Willpower: 6/8

If he does, it would be between Medon and Ventru/Veddartha. Or possibly in place of Medon.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

Does Mithras fit in here somewhere?

Alyssa Fitz Gilbert. Childe of Vander Fitz Gilbert. Childe of Raoul Snake-Eyes. Childe of Medon. Childe of Ventru. Childe of Ynosh. Childe of Caine.

No, you are of the line of the Methuselah Medon though you were told nothing more about your line than Raoul was destroyed by Mithras partially due to your Grandsires betrayal of his own Sire (your Great Grandsire). Your Grandsire was Destroyed (also an incident that I do not believe was fully explained BUT might have been, don't have time ATM to search the thread on that), but his line continues to serve Mithras through the form of your Sire, Alyssa, who was a direct Mortal AND Cainite descendant of your Grandsire.

EDIT: The betrayal took place at a table top game back in 2005 when this game was set in England. (Roald was the book spelling). He was a real douche and the PC hated his Sire (only 2/3rds Blood Bound), so when Mithras rose from torpor and gave him a chance for betrayal, he took it.

Vander's destruction also took place on table top, I believe in 2007 or 2008, when I ran Bitter Crusade. He was actually slain by Ma-Ri the Black when the PCs intervened in Michael/Beshter's Diablerie, the PCs killed her thereafter and the NPC now known as Talisman committed Amaranth upon him instead. The former PC, now NPC Sadir committed amaranth upon Caias in that same scene.


Male Italian (Toreador)

I show I've got four XP as well left unspent.


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I f&*+ing love Vampire, and this game specifically.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Oh dear. Poor Ranerius is curious about the Daughters of Cacophony . The Tzimisce might be safer ;)


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 25/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Definitely poor Ranerius. He has no idea just how dangerous the woman sitting on his lap is.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Like a lamb being licked by a Lioness


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 25/40 | Willpower: 6/8

A rather hungry one at that...


Would Alessandro have another way out? Trap door down to the water or a rowboat on a waterway?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Would Alessandro have another way out? Trap door down to the water or a rowboat on a waterway?

No, the trap door through the roof seemed easy enough when you were a Mortal. This is not on the dock, it's on the lagoon so digging would be costly and difficult and possibly dangerous.


Fair.

Can Alessandro use Perception + Awareness with Auspex 2 and sense of anyone is near by?

Not sure how it works. Augment hearing, listening for footsteps, heartbeats, breathing or armor?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

Fair.

Can Alessandro use Perception + Awareness with Auspex 2 and sense of anyone is near by?

Not sure how it works. Augment hearing, listening for footsteps, heartbeats, breathing or armor?

YES!

Also, you now have your standard bladed sword of choice, Il Corvo gear, and the bonus blade you picked up, which I imagine to be the standard Dagger from the dark ages book.

Where was your next destination? Seeking out the Nosferatu?


If there's a curfew... would casual also draw attention?

And, are we saying they are all Hunters or just guards commissioned to split trouble... then Hunters come in?

Getting to Lorenzo, Onfroi (and the others) might have become more urgent based on this little encounter. Safety in numbers and such.


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

If there's a curfew... would casual also draw attention?

And, are we saying they are all Hunters or just guards commissioned to split trouble... then Hunters come in?

Getting to Lorenzo, Onfroi (and the others) might have become more urgent based on this little encounter. Safety in numbers and such.

No curfew you are aware of, not based on what you saw walking through the city prior to finding Andrew.

Andrew seems to believe they are Hunters and believes they recognized him on sight as he knew some of their numbers but has not elaborated on that.


Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Andrew seems to believe they are Hunters and believes they recognized him on sight as he knew some of their numbers but has not elaborated on that.

The location of Lorenzo Cappelli's home should be public knowledge? As in, I wouldn't be giving it up?

What's closer... where we think the Nosferatu are or Lorenzo's home?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Andrew seems to believe they are Hunters and believes they recognized him on sight as he knew some of their numbers but has not elaborated on that.

The location of Lorenzo Cappelli's home should be public knowledge? As in, I wouldn't be giving it up?

What's closer... where we think the Nosferatu are or Lorenzo's home?

I do not believe that Lorenzo's home is public knowledge per se. he did not operate his business from there so you would only know if it if you ever went there, I do not recall if you did. The business transaction was handled by Jaleel and Dominic.

Probably the Nosferatu as they have several ins and outs, as far as where YOU found the disembodied Nos voice, that's about an hour walk from where you currently are. Gondolas are a bit more scarce than they were several days ago, you have not seen any of Michael Santo's people around...


I remember Lorenzo & Alessandro being friends, a more personal relationship? Maybe just business associates, then.

I had assumed Alessandro knew where it was, just wondering if the Hunters or Andrew would know.

But, Nosferatu it is!


Can Andrew make some kind of Subterfuge or Survival role to mask his limp?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:

I remember Lorenzo & Alessandro being friends, a more personal relationship? Maybe just business associates, then.

I had assumed Alessandro knew where it was, just wondering if the Hunters or Andrew would know.

But, Nosferatu it is!

Business associates, I believe you did run into each other as Mortals and have lunch in a scene, a budding friendship perhaps that was cut short by being Embraced.

The only home you or Andrew would have known of is the Giovanni Manse and that you know for a fact was sacked as that's where Lorenzo and Lydia were captured.

Nosferatu it is!


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Can Andrew make some kind of Subterfuge or Survival role to mask his limp?

I am thinking that's more Performance, sure. I'll have him roll.


Oh, were openly armed?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Oh, were openly armed?

Andrew has a massive Teutonic blade, not sure how well you can hide your blade...


Hopefully story trump's mechanics and eyes are mostly on Alessandro... High charisma, presence and born leader.

And he has blush of health, so shouldn't look odd in the night.


Don't mean to drag scenes out, but I always feel vampire scenes take a lot of back and forth, give and take, positions...

...ritualistic?


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I'll be the one to drag this scene out, not to worry!


I think it's because everything is basically a bargaining chip...

Alessandro had scant few chips, so he's using/offering them sparingly. Doesn't want to run out of currency.

Crazy Middle Eastern merchant heritage x Venetian = Damn. Literally she figuratively.

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