
Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |

I believe Atlas is translating the systems. Prices of things is a good spot for him to provide that service.

Sebecloki |

Sebecloki :
Regarding Cedrica's leaving, it seems to me that the main point of contention was the weekend posting, everything else seemed to be venting.
This is a world in which you have obviously invested a LOT of time, and know VERY well.
The rest of us (I'm assuming) know nothing about it at all.
I'm very impressed with your storytelling, but perhaps you could condense the high points of this world that everyone would know into relatively *short* documents with links to them in the Campaign Info tab? Like "Here's the nations", "Here's the tribes", "Here's the religions", etc. If we're to interact with this world, we need to know the basic background of it.
But, like I've said before, I have a *very* bad memory, so as long as you can be patient with reminding me of things I get wrong because I forgot something, I'm willing to hang in there.
Regarding armor, take a look at the SW RIFTS book, pages 89-90 (in the Player's Guide). Good armor starts at $30,000, and goes up to $100,000+. How does that compare the the "actual" RIFTS prices, and any suggestions they make about how much to reward players? Unless you're willing to give us maybe $5000 *each* per mission/adventure, we're never going to be able to afford better armor. Yes, there's only 16 types of non-specialized armor as opposed to your hundreds of pages, but that's the Savage World philosophy - strip it down to its bare minimum, but no further.
Now that there's a hook in the story, I'm wondering about how to get all the PC's together, since we decided that most of us have never met before. Can you provide a way, or is it up to us to work our way into the job?
Related to that, I've never experienced a game where the GM merely made descriptive posts, without explicitly inviting (or forcing) the PC's to get involved. Once I figured that out, I started working my way into the game, like Perry and Indio. It's not wrong, just different, but my nature is to be taciturn, so the more "hooks" you can provide us to interact with...
The basic books to look up are Rifts: Australia and Target: Awakened Lands (Shadowrun). They should be available on rpgdrivethru or Amazon.
As I said, I'm happy to remind of details as long as someone actually asks me a question -- I of course can't read people's minds over the interwebs. You will have to put the effort into contacting me saying "I can't remember X". So I can know what to clarify. And it needs to be more specific than "I can't remember anything."

Noah.James |

Sorry folks, this is a little too much confusion and conflict for me. I'm sorry that Cedrica was so hostile in her posts, and sorry that Sebeclocki felt the need to respond in kind.
I was here for fun pew pews and Road Warrior silliness, and some learning of the Savage World system, but that fun isn't materializing for me.
I wish everyone the best in their gaming.
Please remove me from the campaign when you get a chance.

Sebecloki |
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Sorry folks, this is a little too much confusion and conflict for me. I'm sorry that Cedrica was so hostile in her posts, and sorry that Sebeclocki felt the need to respond in kind.
I was here for fun pew pews and Road Warrior silliness, and some learning of the Savage World system, but that fun isn't materializing for me.
I wish everyone the best in their gaming.
Please remove me from the campaign when you get a chance.
You're not contributing at all so that's fine with me -- not "materializing fun" in your words for me either. I'm not spending my time changing any notification settings. That's your issue, not mine, to deal with. I won't comply with a request appended to a rude post like this.

Sebecloki |
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Don't criticize me if you want me to do something for you. You can just say you have a different style or whatever without being rude (and you did go over that line in what you wrote, you didn't just keep it to an issue of style). Arguing with and antagonizing me isn't going to force me to do stuff for you. If you'd like to make a sincere and clear apology I'll reconsider, but otherwise our interaction is over, and I don't want to discuss it any further.
You can also just ignore notices, it's not like they emit a siren or something. This really isn't my problem, and I resent you hassling me about it.

Sebecloki |
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Honestly, I'm taking 48 hrs to decide if I'm even continuing this. I'm tired of being antagonized and criticized running a free game I'm putting a lot of time into producing material for. I was actually about to buy the SWADE corebook and a few supplements on the GM day sale on rpgdrivethru, and read them over my upcoming break, but I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have a more appreciate audience for that effort.
EDIT: actually, I'm already clear -- I'm done with this -- GM tumbler hassling me is the last straw. I quit and am taking an extended break from this website. Chow.

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Well that escalated quickly!
Tumbler is one of the nicest guys on these boards. For anyone to lose their poop at a polite reply like that is just inconceivable.
FWIW, as much as I feel bad that this opportunity blew up, it looks like we dodged a bullet in not sinking any more time and resources into what was always a losing proposition.
As always the question is "now what?"
At the very least I'll try and find a way to mark this as inactive. I owe you guys at least that much.
Mind you, my Muse won't be quite about a quick little adventure to at least do a think in this world. IF I have time, I'll write it out. That's not the most likely thing, tho, so in the near future either this game'll disappear or there'll be a gameplay post.

Sebecloki |
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Well that escalated quickly!
Tumbler is one of the nicest guys on these boards. For anyone to lose their poop at a polite reply like that is just inconceivable.
FWIW, as much as I feel bad that this opportunity blew up, it looks like we dodged a bullet in not sinking any more time and resources into what was always a losing proposition.
As always the question is "now what?"
At the very least I'll try and find a way to mark this as inactive. I owe you guys at least that much.
Mind you, my Muse won't be quite about a quick little adventure to at least do a think in this world. IF I have time, I'll write it out. That's not the most likely thing, tho, so in the near future either this game'll disappear or there'll be a gameplay post.
That's an extremely odd definition of polite and very self serving. It's inconceivable to me how thoroughly partisan every response is -- no nuance or appreciation at all for why I'm dissatisfied with anything. It's unfortunate you all need to resort to scatalogical language in simple communication -- it's deeply reflective of your lack of maturity. I've shut everything down. It's clear you have a noxious little clique that is intent on ganging up on me and doubling down without any restraint or attempt at being polite.
Don't ever contact me again in any forum or format -- I don't appreciate having my time wasted and being harassed. You are all amazingly rude, argumentative, and entitled, both in your disgusting prurient and sexist posts in character, and in out of game communication, and this was a complete waste of my time. I've never had a worse group for any activity, gaming or otherwise. No exaggeration, this is the worst group of players, by far, I've ever encountered in 30 years of rpg experience.
I'm personally offended in a way I've never been by an unsuccessful game. I've never had a group that upset me this much and was so deeply uninvolved, unappreciative, and unpleasant. I regret that I responded to this obnoxious derailment of my original plans that recruited a group of rude and uninvolved partisans who had no interest in Rifts at all. The setting deserves better players.

Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |
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No class, Sebecloki. And you marked your own shit post as a favorite - that sums you up perfectly. Good riddance.
Yeah, Atlas, as long as Sebecloki is leaving us high and dry you might as well take over. I bet the three of us still in the game would appreciate continuing, and by presenting some actual structure you may lure back Tumbler and Rizzenmagnus. I think we can still salvage this game if you want to run it.

Sebecloki |

More cursing -- because of course that seems to be your verbal modus operandi -- just further proving my point. Constitutionally incapable of expressing any sentiment without vulgarity.
You are an unbelievably disgusting personality. Constant references to male genitals like a five year old chauvinist. Good riddance to you as well and your ill mannered compatriots and vulgarians. You are the textbook exemplar of toxic masculinity vileness. I'm shocked that a website for a company with such strong progressive and inclusive credentials allows this sort of unfettered regressive behavior.

Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |
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You can't seem to understand that the more you write, the less people think of you. You should have gone away a long time ago.
Btw, when I wrote that your world is amazing, I was just handling your fragile psyche. Your world is pure bloat just like you.

Sebecloki |

You can't seem to understand that the more you write, the less people think of you. You should have gone away a long time ago.
Btw, when I wrote that your world is amazing, I was just handling your fragile psyche. Your world is pure bloat just like you.
You are a vile person, just like your disgusting character, and I could care less what you think. No one with a measure of consideration would rate anything, good or bad, on the basis of your puerile outbursts and expletive filled rants.

Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |
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But you do care. You care a lot about what people think about you. You're a classically insecure person who lashes out at the mildest criticism. I can say confidently I've never encountered a person with thinner skin. You make Donald Trump seem self-actualized.

Sebecloki |

But you do care. You care a lot about what people think about you. You're a classically insecure person who lashes out at the mildest criticism. I can say confidently I've never encountered a person with thinner skin. You make Donald Trump seem self-actualized.
Pure projection. Interacting with you is like talking to a sexist toddler.

Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |
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And yet you keep interacting with me and anyone else who trips your hair trigger. You're so desperate for interaction and so high strung you can't stop yourself. You're that kind of warped masochist bred online in forums like 4chan who get all bent out of shape when you get called an incel. 30 years running rpgs? How can a person as old as you are have no clue at all how to function in society?

Sebecloki |

And yet you keep interacting with me and anyone else who trips your hair trigger. You're so desperate for interaction and so high strung you can't stop yourself. You're that kind of warped masochist bred online in forums like 4chan who get all bent out of shape when you get called an incel. 30 years running rpgs? How can a person as old as you are have no clue at all how to function in society?
More red hot projection -- why do you keep replying if you claim not to care about my opinion or comments? I've clearly tripped a reflexive nerve in your hyperreactive mind. You even haven't attempted to justify your disgusting behavior and vulgarity, you just keep throwing out meaningless quasi sexual insults. You claim to hate Trump but act just like him -- sexism, vulgarity, sexual insults. Projection. Projection. Projection.
I'm done -- you can have the last meaningless expression of vulgarity towards me.

Perenian "Perry" Ethgarnon |
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I made no such claims. You're the one who said you don't care, and you're the one who absolutely does care. Quasi sexual insults? You mean suggesting you're an incel? Could I possibly be wrong? I can't imagine a human being that could stomach being in a relationship with you. You're the ultimate Dungeon Master cliche. If I hadn't the extreme displeasure of seeing you in action I would have said there's no way a person like you actually exists. You literally have no friends here. Everyone hates you.
Good riddance, Milton.