GM Elfriede |
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The Hags of Heibarr
The Devious Discussion Thread
Hi everyone. I have a couple of questions I'd like to ask you guys.
1. Just to be clear, what are your limits for villainous bad behavior? I know there's a concern about children in danger. The two sticking points in my plan for the adventure so far are 1. an orphanage from 300 years ago that needs help moving on, and 2. a changeling Calling. If either of those are going to be too sketchy, I can make adjustments to both parts of the adventure. I can also tweak stuff based on what you guys say here.
2. In the interest of getting to some of the hag action I'm sure you all signed up for a bit quicker, would anyone be opposed to starting at level 3? If so, you'd have 50% of normal wealth by level, since we're using Automatic Bonus Progression.
Eshki Nalur |
Hi there! Happy to have been selected!
1. I don't mind ghosts, children, or ghost children. I'm very big on changeling callings, they're my favorite race to play, especially coupled with the Winter Witch architype/prestige class. So go nuts!
2. I'd prefer to start at 3rd level actually! Starts me off with a few more spells known, including some of the staple spells I'll be casting my whole career, and a familiar. Might tweak the backstory slightly, to work that in, or just have it be a rat, toad, cockroach, or other animal you might be able to find in a dungeon.
Partisizya Toranth |
Hi team! Thanks for the invite, GM! Very happy to be here :)
1. I don't mind most content, but I'd suggest keeping it PG-13 or so. There are children and teens on the forums, even if we may not have any on our group, so unless it's an actual locked forum with rules specifying only people over 21 can access, I'd suggest doing so. Well, plus there's a rule of taste too. Things can be scary without being graphic!
2. Not a problem at all - just please allow me a day or so to adapt the character.
Thanks again for the opportunity! :D
I assume the new wealth would be 1500 gold, right? Half of WBL 3.
Thraag the Younger |
1. I am generally fine with both of those ideas. I do think it should abide by the forum rules just to make sure everything is Kosher on here. Its not worth putting a bunch of effort into it and then getting some random hammer dropped on you. But beyond that those two things seem to be fine with me.
2. 3rd sounds great.
Obsidilan Pitch |
I echo Eshki's and Partisizya's sentiment. I'm very honored and thankful for the invite.
Answer 1. Concerning that hags will be one of the main focuses of the campaign, I came into this recruitment knowing subjects can and likely will get very gritty. According to what edition or supplemental material you read, hags often literally bewitch unsuspecting males into mating with them to create changlings. And hags have been know to perform disturbing acts on others, above simple curses and the like.
I might what to recommend this if you are unsure or know your will be posting questionable posts. Create a spoiler tab like this..
Answer 2. I also would not be opposed to leveling up to level 3 for the same reasons Eshki stated. But there are pluses to starting a new adventure at low level, as a way to ease the players into the setting. So I'm of two minds on this, but I will yield to the majority vote.
GM Elfriede |
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I'd like to keep things forum-kosher for sure. PG 13 is a good general goal, and I don't currently plan on any erotic roleplay with my hags.
EDIT: There's a post in the gameplay. If you make a post and then delete it, it should tag this game as one you're in. I'll run out a starting post once we've decided on what we're willing to deal with and whether to start at 1 or 3. Either is fine with me.
Caolaidhe |
Sorry for posting in late, my spouse and I went on a small excursion for her birthday so we didn't get back until late last night.
Answer #1: a ghost-kid doesn't bother me, references to the fact that bad things sometimes happen to children don't bother me, but I really don't want any graphic depictions of ongoing torment regarding kids. I'm not sure what a Calling specifically entails but "rescue the kid" is a perfectly good plot hook. Just nothing graphic, please, but given what you've said already I don't anticipate any issues.
Answer 1.5: I also don't mind romantic/sexual content in adventures, as long as it's done tastefully (e.g. descriptions of kissing & sweet talk is great, but an erotic scene is too far for this medium). In spoilers is probably best just for the sake of forum rules. Standard 'fade to black' type stuff works.
Answer #2: Starting at 3rd level sounds great! Will you want us to be extra careful about tracking things like food, ammunition, etc as part of the adventure vibe? I'm okay either way.
GM Elfriede |
Happy birthday to your spouse. You didn't post in late at all, since I just made the team decision this morning.
The Calling is a changeling thing, where the changeling feels the call of her mother sometime after puberty, trance-states out of the village and to her, and gets transformed into a hag by her mom.
I usually don't worry too much about food and ammunition, but it could add some tension to the adventure, so let's track it unless it gets burdensome to the story.
@Partisizya: 1500 is correct for level 3. It sounds like level 3 is what people want, but let's hold off until we hear from the last player.
GM Elfriede |
Alright, it looks like I can do the story I want to do and stay within everyone's comfort level, so that's great news.
Let's go ahead and rebuild to level 3. Shall we start tomorrow evening, or will people need more time to rebuild?
Partisizya Toranth |
I should have Sizy ready for tomorrow! Some questions:
- Sizy was caged on the bilges of the ship when the wreck happened. It's possible other characters knew about it, it's also possible no one did. I'd love to play either route, but wanted to double check the GM/other players preference on it.
- Sizy "evaded" her Calling (like some other changelings in the past); not sure how this would play in the game, or if the GM has anything else planned for my "wild" changeling.
- Could we run a quick review on roles/skills, or should we wing however we already are? With everybody leveling to 3, there's an opportunity to try to do "some" balance, but I'm perfectly fine with improvisation (maybe I even prefer improv! Lol)
GM Elfriede |
To answer Partisizya's questions (I finally didn't have to look at your name while I was typing it, haha):
- I think you were very much a secret. The boat was big enough, and the person transporting you wealthy enough, that private shipments could totally be arranged - for a price.
- If I have a plan, you'll find out in due time.
- I'm totally okay with you checking skills to make sure most things are covered. Go for it.
EDIT: By the way, I have Paizo open most of the time I'm not at work on my computer, so I'll have a pretty quick response time to questions and concerns. I'll try to keep the gameplay thread slower so that people don't get left behind.
GM Elfriede |
@pad300: Let's do half+1, unless someone has an objection.
GM Elfriede |
I don't see any reason why not, assuming you use the right ratio of gold to charges.
Thraag the Younger |
The Thraags will be ready to go tomorrow. I do have a Thraag the Elder avatar for when he talks. He only speaks Orcish so I will put what he says in Spoilers. I hope that sounds good.
Eshki Nalur |
Finished! Gotta touch up the backstory to add in the imaginary butterfly friend that's definitely trying to tell her something but it doesn't have speak with master yet. Other than that, I do have 210 gp left over. I'd be happy to throw it to the party fund, if that's allowed, but otherwise I'll use it on some mundane items and potions.
Pretty much ready to go though!
Obsidilan Pitch |
I work 12 hours on Monday, so I won't be able to get started on leveling up Pitch until after work.
GM Elfriede |
12 hour shifts are rough. I'll aim for Tuesday sometime to start, then, to give you some time.
@Eshki: There was some discussion above about pooling gold for a cure light wounds wand.
Partisizya Toranth |
Happy to contribute to the pool as well. Who will be manning the wands, and how much gold do I need to reserve for it?
Thraag the Younger |
I haven't done the math yet, but I am planning on buying a wand to aid the group (maybe not full). But he will be using UMD to get the spell to go off.
I could also contribute some gold to another group wand if people want for someone else to carry. Thraag could also carry it, but he will be rolling to get spells to work.
With 6 players, if everyone is willing it would be 125 gp each. I can cover more if needed.
Obsidilan Pitch |
If Giradan doesn't wish to, Obsidilan will carry the wand(s).
Giradan |
Giradan will happily carry a wand; he's a cleric who's taken Healing Hands as a feat... The question is are we buying 1 wand or 2. Depends how much we want to kick in; if we all contribute 250gp we can get 2 fully charged wands (or 125 gp for 1). Thraag sounds like he's buying a wand above and beyond the party tools, which seems to me a little excessive, especially if we buy 2. So maybe we only buy 1 and let Thraag get his own as he chooses?
Obsidilan Pitch |
Obsidilan will kick in the 250gp for the two wands.
GM Elfriede |
I'm fine with pooling resources to buy a wand or two. Go for it.
From a quick scroll through profiles, it looks like we're starting to switch over to level 3 characters. I'll write up a first post so it's ready, but I'll wait until everyone's checked in that they're ready before we get going. If we're not ready tonight, I'll post tomorrow morning.
Giradan |
Giradan is lvl 3. The only thing that's not set is the equipment buy. That's obviously being complicated by the CLW wand discussions...
For me, unless we jumpstart with a fight, I can play tonight.
Obsidilan Pitch |
Obsidilan is also at Level 3. It's time to bring some pain!
Thraag the Younger |
I will kick in 350 GP into getting two wands.
GM Elfriede |
Okay. Making this simpler.
Thragg: 350gp
Caolaidhe: 150
Obsidilan: 250
Eshki: Up to 210
Giradan: 125 or 250?
Partisizya: Says she'll contribute
So, you guys currently have 1085 or 1210 gp toward wands without Partisizya's gold, depending on what Giradan does.
Thraag the Younger |
The Thraags are ready to go.
GM Elfriede |
Okay. Thraag and Obsidilan are the two I was waiting for the most to make a gameplay post. There won't be any immediate combat, so I'll set the scene in gameplay and we can get started.
Thraag the Younger |
I would have kept the Elder around as much as possible on the boat, but when I was asleep he would poof.
Obsidilan Pitch |
Hello, all. Obsidilan's player is working another 12-hour day and he doesn't want to get in trouble at work playing Pathfinder.
So he'll post when he gets home this evening.
GM Elfriede |
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Hi all. Tomorrow is the first day of school (I teach 4th grade). It's likely that I'll come home exhausted, since it's a crazy day, and might not have the energy to do much thinking. I'll probably still have a post, but don't panic if nothing shows up.
Giradan |
@GM Elfriede, as a player, I have a guess at what that eyeball thing is...
A hag's eye ooze
but I could be wrong, so what Knowledge check do you want?
Thraag the Younger |
I hope your first day was fun.
We start next week, but I work at a community college.
GM Elfriede |
It was pretty fun. I had a rough end to last year with some stuff out ofmy control, so I was pretty nervous about this year, but it's going fine, except I tested positive for Covid last night so I'm out for a bit now. It never rains but it pours, or something, right?
I'll have a post up here pretty soon.
Thraag the Younger |
I hope that the symptoms are mild. Take care!