DM Voomer's Age of Ashes

Game Master Voomer

Are we heading back to town and restoring the citadel first or are we bringing Renali back through the portal now? Just checking.

Personally I think that the characters having some downtime to clear out and restore the basics of the citadel first would be good. Maybe a week or two. Then we can open the portal and see what is on the other side.

Complete metagaming here - but I would like to have the basics of the citadel running before we trigger the next plot event and don't have time to do anything before we have to save the world again.

Not sure how the initial cleaning is going to work. It lists 8 days, but is that 8 days for one person? Will 8 people working on it reduce that to 1 day? Or is it 8 days for the entire party as well as crew that we hire from town?

It's 8 days for one work crew. The goblins count as one, you can recruit a human(ish) one from town, and if you all want to spend days cleaning the place I'll let you count as one as well. So three crews tackling the job together would take about 3 days to finish the job.

Personally I think that the characters having some downtime to clear out and restore the basics of the citadel first would be good. Maybe a week or two. Then we can open the portal and see what is on the other side.

Complete metagaming here - but I would like to have the basics of the citadel running before we trigger the next plot event and don't have time to do anything before we have to save the world again.

Not sure how the initial cleaning is going to work. It lists 8 days, but is that 8 days for one person? Will 8 people working on it reduce that to 1 day? Or is it 8 days for the entire party as well as crew that we hire from town?

Let's also remember that in that same downtime, Cev will probably need to spend most of those days examining the aiudara to find out why it seemed to stop working. I think the more time he has, the better the odds will be that he can fix it.

There is also an awesome shield just waiting for someone to take it. Eh? Ehhhhh?

EDIT: If everyone is okay with it, I'm fine with collecting the goblins, talking with them, and then returning back to negotiate with our "dragon overlords". I definitely think the barracks (or equivalent, will check the map soon) is renovated into the "goblin barracks". I also suggest training them in medium armor for the sheer hilarious/terrifying potential. The last suggestion is only made a little bit in jest...

There is also an awesome shield just waiting for someone to take it. Eh? Ehhhhh?

EDIT: If everyone is okay with it, I'm fine with collecting the goblins, talking with them, and then returning back to negotiate with our "dragon overlords". I definitely think the barracks (or equivalent, will check the map soon) is renovated into the "goblin barracks". I also suggest training them in medium armor for the sheer hilarious/terrifying potential. The last suggestion is only made a little bit in jest...

Cev could always do "his thing" -- pray for a little wisdom to augment his identify roll!?

also --- are we spooked because a HELLKNIGHT had a low opinion of the shield? The Hellknight usage of the word cursed cannot possibly be the same as a normal person. Like I'm not the barrister or anything, but maybe they meant cursed like it has a personality and wants its wielder to be a good person? Sounds like a curse for a Hellknight ...

In-game, Caiten doesn't care much about it. He doesn't use a physical shield. He doesn't think it is a cursed item or anything like that. He just doesn't feel like lugging it all the way back to town right now. It's not going anywhere.

If you want to grab it, go for it. I think you are the only one out of the entire lot of us that would have any interest in using it.

I will RP a "meeting" with the shield ;)

Dario believes that the item has requirements and he does not want to be burdened with it as a gunslinger. If I was literally any other class, I would immediately touch it.

Dario believes that the item has requirements and he does not want to be burdened with it as a gunslinger. If I was literally any other class, I would immediately touch it.

Cev doesn't want to seem like that kind of religious person, so he isn't going to 'touch' it immediately

Even this little stub is intense:
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Vildeis

If anyone wants to read her entry in Chronicle of the Righteous, let me know

If I was a shield-wielding guy, I'd pick up the shield in a heartbeat. I wouldn't hesitate. Bunch of wimps. ;)

Sorry folks, I was out seeing Heilung yesterday, and today I was fatigued like an over-raged barbarian or whatever that fighter archetype was that could rage. I had to work today, too, rather than sleep all day, which was what was truly required. Will post tomorrow.

If I was a shield-wielding guy, I'd pick up the shield in a heartbeat. I wouldn't hesitate. Bunch of wimps. ;)

Well Vildeis doesn't want you to be married, or have babies, OR be Mayor of Breachill. Stick with Cev ... jus' sayin'

More mechanics notes.

For those of you who don't have Expert level Crafting, you should be able to hire an expert from town. It costs 5 gp per day. So for example:

Repair Stairs to portal room: 1 gp supplies + 1 gp labor + 5 gp skilled labor = 7 gp per day.
No skill roll since the hired expert auto-succeeds.
8 days and 56 gp.

Speaking of gp, we do have more things in the shared inventory that we can sell. A scroll of Fear, a couple of unidentified elixirs, an unidentified jade serpent, maybe the jade cat. Things like that.

I am assuming that folks are okay with Dario taking the skeleton key?

I am definitely down with selling more stuff and splitting the goodness as needed.

I put my thoughts on what to use some of the rooms for on the map of the citadel. Those are just my thoughts, so I would love some feedback from the rest of the group too.

There is also the lower level, which doesn't show up on the map at the same time.

One thing I note is that there aren't a lot of rooms that seem intuitive for bedrooms/personal space. We might just each claim a random room scattered around the citadel. Definitely looking for other people's thoughts on this one.

You're welcome to 'redraw' walls and such when they're renovating, get rid of the excessive doors, etc. Lol.

Javell DeLeon wrote:

If I was a shield-wielding guy, I'd pick up the shield in a heartbeat. I wouldn't hesitate. Bunch of wimps. ;)

Well Vildeis doesn't want you to be married, or have babies, OR be Mayor of Breachill. Stick with Cev ... jus' sayin'

LOL!

Joran cuts his eyes left to right before pointing at a random table and saying, "I'll just be sitting right over there. By the way, I don't know who the idiot that was talking all that trash is. Jorell Dumbell or something? I don't even know who he is or why he's even talking. Just so you know, I'm not affiliated with that guy. Just so you know." He reiterates. After finding his seat, he leans back, crosses his arms, uncrosses his arms, places his hands on the table, strums his fingers, stops strumming, and looks back to Cev and says, "Remember, Cev, you said Mayor," he reminds him while peering through narrowed eyes.

Will catch up today and over the weekend. Work is hectic again.

A couple points of clarity on the citadel. (Hoping to wrap up the downtime maybe today/tomorrow, and move on with the adventure this weekend)

1.) The citadel needs to be administered while cleaning and repairs and such are going on. I suspect while you are off adventuring, you plan to leave this to Alak? He can auto-succeed, and won't charge you, but he can never crit succeed and give you the bonus. The other option is for one of you to administer things (you don't have to stay there, but a non-crit success only runs things for 1 week, before you'd have to return and check in). Anyway, do you want Alak to do it now and auto-succeed, or would one of you like to roll that and hope for a crit success and a bonus?

2.) You have to roll for organizing labor. Looks like Dario recruited the goblins, and Caiten the Breachtons, so you guys need to roll diplomacy for me, please. (Deception, Diplomacy, or Intimidation, but you guys weren't bullies or liars, so.) DC is 13 for unskilled workers.

2.) You have to roll for organizing labor. Looks like Dario recruited the goblins, and Caiten the Breachtons, so you guys need to roll diplomacy for me, please. (Deception, Diplomacy, or Intimidation, but you guys weren't bullies or liars, so.) DC is 13 for unskilled workers.

Oh, Right.

LOL.

Umm... yeah. Your poor Android friend could definitely use either some guidance or some help with that. Rolling 1d20-2 isn't looking so good.

Lore (merchantile) is +11
Sulee has Diplomacy at +5

DC 13 Diplomacy: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (12) + 8 = 20

Dario successfully works out a deal with the Bumblebrashers to get the place up and going. He is not nearly gifted enough in Society to have a chance of hitting that critical success at the moment.

For the society check, I am at about even odds of success. Probably more reasonable to have Alak do it.

K10, you can ask Cev to help, if that helps ;)
Most of these days, he pretty much needs to go back and forth to the citadel.

Also ... did we discover a bunch of money that I totally missed having been posted!?

18 gold in the party funds, some folks have some of their own. The cost of the poisons was excused by Kellen, so you aren't in debt. But you're not wealthy atm.

18 gold in the party funds, some folks have some of their own. The cost of the poisons was excused by Kellen, so you aren't in debt. But you're not wealthy atm.

That was exactly what I wanted to know: because if Cev needs to put up some cash for a few days work, he will. At the moment, the guy with the most skin in the game for clearling the stairs to the sub-levels is Cev ... currently, it would seem that he's trekking back and forth to the bandit camp to get into the Ring.

K10, you can ask Cev to help, if that helps ;)

Sure. Go ahead and post that help then.

I also recommend selling off some more of the things that we have found that we don't intend to ever use.

Cevendyll wrote:

K10, you can ask Cev to help, if that helps ;)

Sure. Go ahead and post that help then.

I also recommend selling off some more of the things that we have found that we don't intend to ever use.

Sorry, you are correct, no one ever responded to your first request: Cev votes in favor of selling off what we will never use. I think our usage pattern as a team speaks for itself.

Cev ALSO votes for finding a market for the shield; it might not be a now thing, but it should have a really high value. It is too compelling (like I mean, it has a will of its own) to feel like a smart choice right now.

diplo roll?

Diplomacy: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (17) + 13 = 30

That's good for something.

Sell all the gear. Lisi hasn't used a weapon once in the game and likes to cast spells. Sort of a leafy wizard.

Uh I mean all the unused gear. Or DO I?

If Sulee can roll it, that would at least have hope.

Diplomacy: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (14) + 5 = 19

Sulee and Cev are able to rally a team of Breachtons to your side.

Yasami, general repairs will cost 14 g for supplies, 14 g for wages for the workers, and either a DC 15 crafting check from one of you (other than Dario and Caiten, who are already working with the goblins during this time) or hiring a woodworker for 70g for the 14 days, at 5g per day.

Since tracking this time can get complicated, I'll share my calendar with you all. Yet another link up top.

Joran is going to get Fadelby involved. But it's going to be later. I've got a crazy day ahead of me today.

Lisi is only Expert in Diplomacy, and we've organized enough laborers, I think.

How about this: he can assist in general repairs, and use Shape Wood to fix doors and floorboards and the like (and get wood from Narine WAIT DON'T MISINTERPRET THAT PHRASE) and also...how about some Glyphs of Warding to keep people away from certain spaces? With warnings in Taldan, Goblin, and a few other languages.

When he gets Expert, though, he'll build the Citadel Community Garden. Finally, my anarchist dreams come true! In a ttrpg. ;)

For handwaving some things:

34 days of unskilled labor from the two teams so far
at 1 gp for the labor and 1 gp for materials, that is 68 gp

Needing identified:
Jade Serpent
two alchemical elixirs
a scroll from Voz's bedroom in town, unless that was done and didn't get marked down.

To be sold to cover repair costs:
Chess set
Jade Cat talisman
Owlbear claw talisman
scroll of fear
Any of the above unidentified stuff that we haven't needed yet and probably won't
3 +1 weapon runes

I updated those, can assume you all did that during the downtime.

OK. So that jade viper is a lot more pricey than I was expecting. I was thinking it would be another talisman for 6-8 gp.

As for value to the party - it isn't great. If we need a snake, Lisi can do it better. If we need another combatant, a level 2 minion isn't going to cut it.

But selling it for 170 gp to a wharf warehouse owner to keep the rat population down seems like a great way to cover our citadel ownership expenses.

I still have all this garbage on Joran's sheet. I'm guessing this has all been taken care of? Because I just flat don't remember. Sorry.

silver flail, silver light hammer, silver mace, silver morningstar, elixer(x2 unidentified), talisman, talisman

Tanglefoot bag, vial of Alchemist fire, vial filled with clear liquid, log of ceremonial burials.

I recognize all of that from the party inventory sheet except for the log of ceremonial burials. So that one might be new - the rest have been either used or sold - other than the Wolf Fang talisman that was attached to your flail, and the Alchemists Fire that you are still carrying around.

Dario took the Skeleton Key and that is all. I'm good with selling off the rest and having that be our intial party/citadel fund?

Cev won't take the shield? Cos that's a pretty damn good shield.

If we have a repair kit.

Caiten could probably repair the shield in his sleep.

For the date of leaving, I would think that Rova 5 looks like a good date. Does anyone else have any other suggestions on that?

OK. Updating tracking. I marked off the things that are being sold (at half the listed value), added that sale price to the total party GP. Then deducted the costs of unskilled labor for the days marked for the two groups of laborers.

So now we have some very wealthy goblins, a warehouse being guarded by a magical snake part time, and at least a small amount of left over party cash for business expenses.

I recognize all of that from the party inventory sheet except for the log of ceremonial burials. So that one might be new - the rest have been either used or sold - other than the Wolf Fang talisman that was attached to your flail, and the Alchemists Fire that you are still carrying around.

Thanks! Will note accordingly.

The Citadel needs some serious renovations. Walls torn down to make for bigger rooms for one. They are just too small. We need a more open concept to get better flow which means fewer walls. And possibly find a place for a mudroom. ;)

I've got 8 rooms built on a piece of graph paper. WAY better than the rooms we've got listed currently. Nothing fancy about them, they're all square rooms but still better than those tiny ones. :)

We'll deal with that at a later date though. Look out Property Brothers. ;)

So I've read the Gameplay posts, and I am happy to chronomance some RP later this afternoon, but to confirm: we're handwaving Cev's repairs to the gate, correct?

Apologize that it's a little meta, but being familiar with the AP, I just wanted to ask. In principle, Renali was trapped because it was broken ...