Now that I've played both specials as to the idea that 3-99SFS and 3-99 PFS are connected , I do have questions about it. I always thought Starfinder and Pathfinder 2e were set in two totally different universes, but the specials say otherwise, especially the first one I played the Pathfinder one. I was waiting till the scenario was over before I asked these questions.
First of all, if Starfinder is nothing more than 1000s or so years into the future, then how come magic has come way down and what about magic items?
Certain capes, rings, shields, swords, etc. that existed in Pathfinder 2e, no longer exist in Starfinder, what caused this to happen?
Magic is less in Starfinder. Pathfinder 2e has spells up to level 10, while Starfinder has spells up to level 6, huh?
What happened to Glorian?
Since Magic Mailbox only requires both of them to be on the same plane, can I send mail to another planet 10 light years away? There is no distance limit for it, though I'd have to get the other box there in the first place. Like all the way to the planet, Apostae.
Finally, what happens to an ageless race that lives for thousands of years to see the Starfinder age? How do they change? Like an Android, a poppet or a automation. Seriously, does the level 20 sorcerer Poppet who went into retirement and sat around for thousands of years suddenly become a technomancer level 20?
There is a time frame called the Gap sometime bewteen Pathfinder and Starfinder. No one remembers what happened then - which is odd for creatures who lived long enough to exist both before and after the Gap - but sometime during the Gap, Golarion vanished. If anyone knows the cause of the Gap or why things changed so much during it, they haven't said.
|Hilary Moon Murphy Contributor|
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Those are eternal questions, aren't they?
1) The Gap. We don't know how long the Gap was, because the Developers don't want Starfinder's past to ruin Pathfinder's future.
But I don't like that answer, so let's go with something less game-y. I am going to tell you that knowledge is lost all the time.
No one today knows how to make Greek Fire. We found the Antikythera Mechanism, and can tell you a ton about how it works, but not what it was for. In ancient times, there was a very effective floral form of birth control called Syphium that the Romans ate to extinction.
Knowledge on how to do stuff is being lost real-time as we watch. Indigenous languages all over the world are being lost. The only reason we have any knowledge of the signs of Martha's Vineyard Sign Language today is that one of its native speakers, a woman in her nineties, taught it to a hearing grandchild who turned out to be a linguist and thought to go around the island as a teenager videotaping the other ninety-year olds on the island who signed the language. We got lucky with that one.
Golarian. Yup, it's missing. There are lots of theories why. One of my favorites is that Torag took it away to keep Rovagug from escaping its cage, but... this is one of the essential mysteries of the universe. Make up your own theories, and have fun with the mystery.
Magic. Yup, it changed. But let's face it: something as powerful as the Gap would have warped the Universe completely, and affected many of its physical laws. As someone who converted PF1 spells officially for Starfinder, I can tell you that level 6 spells in Starfinder are level 9 spells in PF1. They're roughly equivalent in power.
Magic Mailbox. If it gets converted, I don't see why it cannot cover interstellar transport. In that case, it probably would be higher level.
Poppets / Automata / Androids. They may live a long time, but they are not immortal. Materials erode and decay, and androids eventually will seek renewal, letting a new soul take their place. So far, I have only seen one canonical person who lived pre-Gap and kept doing his job post-Gap, and that was an undead temple guardian who woke up from the Gap, realized that the stars had changed but his temple was still there, and thus his purpose lay intact.
In the end, there are no sure answers... only lots of enjoyable questions and theories.
Cool. Races? yeah I did think about the fact that materials erode, but living creatures can do upkeep and repair on themselves. Part of the poppets arm erodes, buy some cloth and a sewers kit and other things to patch it up. The eye button falls off or shrinks over 500 years, buy a new one.
Link to the undead temple guardian?
Glorian? Do Death-Stars exist in Starfinder?
Greek Fire? I do remember hearing about that on history channel, and reading it, it says water can't put it out, and sometimes makes it worse. Plenty of fires today can't be put out with water, like electrical fires. How is it worse than any fire we can create today?
I do think those elements are still covered by what Hmm said.
Creatures can repair themselves, but there are often limits to what can be done, especially when talking about millennia of change. I'm certain there are stories of characters, if not in Starfinder, that have lived that long, but are dramatically different than what they were in the past or are more akin to celestial beings like outsiders or deities.
As to Magic Mailbox, there are many Pathfinder spells in earlier editions that ended up getting rewritten to account for planetary travel. Several spells that worked across planes instead are limited to the planet. That doesn't mean these spells changed, but that they never allowed for traversing space. The same goes for Magic Mailbox, even though it has little described limit, it is likely in part because few people could actually even test to see of Magic Mailbox works across planets.
If space travel was far more common in PF2, Magic Mailbox would be limited to transferring items across the planet.
I think even Interplanetary Teleport is a 9th level spell in Pathfinder 1e, and it not working reliably/as expected is the whole reason the Azlanti Star Empire exists.
|Hilary Moon Murphy Contributor|
Chronicle looks good. Thanks for a great game, everybody, especially Hmm for running!
Thank you for the time and effort it takes to run a Special, especially at such a high level and with such quality GMing. I know it's not easy and It's greatly appreciated.