[PFS1] 6-07 Valley of Veiled Flame (GM Watery Soup) (Inactive)

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@Allanen: No. In early seasons, I think the scenarios were written for 4, so the fights are easy by modern standards and APL tiebreakers went down or up depending on how many players there were. In later seasons, the scenarios were written for 6, so there are explicit 4-player adjustments for the fights and APL tiebreakers go up with the 4-player adjustment.

@Voices: Chronicle uploaded.


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Reggie Bottleberry wrote:
Ok...I think I'm with Mavaro, then...the tiers on the chronicle sheet are weird/wrong. They say 1-2 and 8-9 but the scenario is for 5-9's so the low tier should be 5-6 and high tier should be 8-9 with out of tier being 7.

LOL, I didn't even notice. Yes, 5-6 is low tier and 7 is out of tier.

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I assume the CR's in the adventure were appropriate for 5th-6th level characters and not 1st-2nd level characters?

Hard to believe, but yes. Tygora was a CR 8 creature, and the encounter was nominally CR 9 because of the mephits and the traps that the prisoners were sitting on but nobody in their right mind would set off while a CR 8 creature was blasting them with scorching rays.

Edit: And the encounter at the front of the castle was two CR 8 encounters smushed together, that was supposed to be the toughest fight of the scenario.

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You don't have to do another sheet for me. I can add it in.

Too late. :) Took me longer to pull it out of my Recycle Bin than it did to edit.

Liberty's Edge

Male M Halfling Order of the Paw Cavalier 6th HP 62/62 AC 27 /ff 26 /t 13, Fort +9, Ref +5, Will +5, Init +1, Per +3, Spd 20' (15’ in armor)

Thanks. I'm already filling it out.

Liberty's Edge

CN Male Nagaji 19/T 11/FF18, BAB +8 F+13/R+6/W+3 CMB +15(+17 w/Disarm) CMD 26(28 vs disarm) rage 12 of 12 left Bloodrager 4/Brawler 2/Fighter (High Guardian) 2 HP 72 / 72 Init +3, Per +13

Thank you for running it GM Watery Soup! Go to work and things quickly change. I will go with Wish for Glory please (That will replace the 2 I spent for a happy stick).

Question there, would Tygora be considered a slaver?

Defeat a known slaver whose Challenge Rating is at least equal to your character level. For the purposes of this goal, use the definition of slaver from the Freedom Fighter reward.

FREEDOM FIGHTER (2+ goals): Gain a +1 bonus on attack rolls and weapon damage rolls against known slavers. For the purposes of this reward, a slaver is a creature that owns at least five slaves, is maintaining a compulsion spell or effect to control a creature for at least one day, or is explicitly cited as trafficking slaves.

Now to get two more xp and gain Combat Reflexes based on strength. (Snicker)


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Do GMs have any leeway in interpretation?

Exactly as written, she does not meet the definitions - neither she nor any of her subjects would characterize their relationship as master/slave, and her effect over them was one-time, not continuous/maintained.

But, obviously, she had power over them, and she exploited their labor. She also explicitly trafficked Valsog, although, again, he wouldn't have called himself a slave as she did try to make him happy.

I will gladly say yes if I'm allowed a judgement call.

Grand Lodge

Nagaji Barb 1/Sum 4, HP:46/46, AC:19, Touch:12, Flat Footed:17 F:+5, R:+3, W:+5 (+2 vs mind affecting & poison), Init:+2, Perc:+4, lowlight vision

Thanks for running. That was an interesting one that I wanted on my list.


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Khugron, your Chronicle is in the folder.

Liberty's Edge

CN Male Nagaji 19/T 11/FF18, BAB +8 F+13/R+6/W+3 CMB +15(+17 w/Disarm) CMD 26(28 vs disarm) rage 12 of 12 left Bloodrager 4/Brawler 2/Fighter (High Guardian) 2 HP 72 / 72 Init +3, Per +13

Thank you. I am not sure, maybe in relation to the spell that she had over them to do her bidding since she reversed it.

Silver Crusade

Male Undine Shamen 5 HP 35/38 | AC 20; Tch 13; FF 18 | F +5; R +5; W +12 | CMB+3; CMD 16 | Speed 20 ft/Swim 30/fly 60 | Init +2 | mwk longspear +3 (1d8-1/×3),+1 underwater light crossbow +6 (1d8+1/19-20) Perc +17

That wall of fire was scary in that we had to cross it to get to her. It could do about half my hit points. And quickened scorching ray is nasty. If you had hit one person with all three that could have taken someone down.


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PFS generally tries to minimize GM judgment calls, but does acknowledge that there are situations that will arise where the scenario does not tell you what to do. If you've seen the evaluation criteria for five-star GMs, you know what I mean. So I would think that, since there's a specific definition for what a slaver is, you'd have to follow it.

Of course, it's not like anyone is auditing these chats to see if a GM gives some leeway on the checkboxes.


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Khugron wrote:
Thank you. I am not sure, maybe in relation to the spell that she had over them to do her bidding since she reversed it.

I'll just give notes, highlighting the key words.

  • "owns at least five slaves": Tygora easily has more than five subjects, but she doesn't own them. She is unable to sell them or trade them. She may be a tyrant or a despot, but that neither she nor her subjects would characterize their relationship as master/slave weighs heavily here.

  • "is maintaining a compulsion spell or effect to control a creature for at least one day": Tygora easily fits every part of this sentence except for the word "maintaining". She rose to power through a wish - a one-time event. She does not maintain the wish, nor does it go away when she leaves.

  • "is explicitly cited as trafficking slaves": Sooo close. She explicitly trafficked Valsog, but he's not a slave (he actually doesn't really care about freedom, and is impossible to convince to join a rebellion - his preference is to continue working under Tygora, because she provides him with high quality materials. She has not explicitly trafficked anyone else in town.

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    If I were to use my judgement, I'd say that Tygora easily meets three halves of a criterion - half of all three, which adds up to more than one. She doesn't own slaves, but she has a pool of labor that she has power over and exploits the material fruits of their labor. She doesn't actively maintain the effect, but her intent when she offered the wish was to deceive. She explicitly trafficked Valsog to the city to make weapons and armor for her army.

    You know what? I say yes. I've taken the time to write it all out so there's no mystery in wondering what I was thinking, and also, my name is attached to this, so I'm reachable if the Appeals Court of the First District of Pathfinder wants to subpoena me or whatever.

  • Liberty's Edge

    CN Male Nagaji 19/T 11/FF18, BAB +8 F+13/R+6/W+3 CMB +15(+17 w/Disarm) CMD 26(28 vs disarm) rage 12 of 12 left Bloodrager 4/Brawler 2/Fighter (High Guardian) 2 HP 72 / 72 Init +3, Per +13

    Good justification and I will keep that in mind if I ever get a chance to run the adventure.

    Thank you.


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    I'm closing this campaign. If anyone needs anything, please PM me.

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