I don't think splitting is a good tactic IG or OOG. But OOG I have no objection to the party going, well, anywhere, and getting into all kinds of trouble (that's what PCs do after all), and I will happily go along even if I happen to object IG.
Piercing damage on skeletons... Malgrim doesn't know any better.
If only someone had knowledge (Religion).... Although you won't be seeing many undead from this point forward, its just been funny that the two encounters you'd have benefited from the information no one can roll high enough.
Yeah, bardic knowledge would be nice... But I'm not that kind of bard.
Would other party members be able to see the piercing spell have no impact on the skeletons, and switch to appropriate weapons? Or not so much?
yeah absolutely you could see that MAlgrim's spell completely engulfed the skeletons and did almost no damage.
D'oh, undead, of course. Sorry for the delay, late day in the field, didn't start till noon. Wasn't worried about a lose / lose, was totally a RP thing based on how I built the character and history.
Yeah all good! Don't worry, they seem to be managing without you just fine.... of course, we'll see what that orange thing does...
Dibs if the unidentified item is the "Hand of Vecna"!
Darn it. Should have thought of that first!
On second thought, a hand with no claws is not really an upgrade!!!
Hey look! Character history! It's a good thing I've got this stuff written down... Somewhere...
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Advantages of a cat lifespan... I've got way less character history to remember!
To be clear, Zdena will absolutely be talked out of this if we'd rather head back to camp to plan our next move.
Loot stuff: I think Ryll is the only one using a crossbow, so she should get the Frost bolt. We don't really have a dedicated archer, but either Malgrim or Zdena could use the bracers. I think they make more sense for Zdena, since Malgrim is more likely to bust out a bard spell than a bow, but it's a bit of a toss-up.
The bracers grant proficiency, so anyone could use them (except me of course), and they would combine with that +1 longbow I think. But with those bolts (that are also +1 plus frost) it doesn't seem like the right time to toss the crossbow, so....
If we ever reach level 3 I'll start having some better damage (hooray spiritual weapon) capabilities from ranged. So if we don't need a dedicated bow person, since Jonathan and I can cover ranged damage in the group, what about giving one of the minions a serious upgrade with the bracers and bow.
I have noted a few things on the loot tracker that we agreed on handing out. The Zdena gets the coffee beans... Since she's been carrying around a coffee set this whole time. I have given Ryll the frost bolts since she has the crossbow.
I haven't given the Bracers of Archery (lessor) to anyone yet but I agree with Zdena that she should get them over me. (I have spells)
Hey great roleplaying all! I'm enjoying watching the wheels turn! :D and the coffee scene was great :D
The map were we encountered Gashmaw had a big crevice on it. But we never checked it out and there was a big bramble on the map between me and it. So I'm assuming I didn't see it too mention it now as a possible darklands entrance.
You didn't miss anything there - I'd have rolled perception for you to notice if it was significant. You don't need to double back there :D
Good to know
Yes! The book was useful! :D
speaking of perception. I keep forgetting if I have Caleb on my shoulder (or "within arm's reach") I have Alertness. Random daytime travel he'll probably be dozing on my shoulder.
did we ever figure out what the desiccated magic hand was?
Don't think so
Malgrim and I already failed our spellcraft checks on it, but you can give it a shot.
Hand of the Mage maybe?
Why did we even keep a freaking unidentified dessicated hand that we can't figure out what it is? In-game, I mean. Out of game it's 'cause it was listed as loot
LOL, cause its magic?!?
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definitely not something to be disposed of without proper precautions, that's why :)
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It's not like we took it off some kind of undead monstrosi... wait a minute....
New answer: it's not like cats don't bring home random creature parts when you least expect it.
okay level 3! so HPs can either be half+1 of your new Hit die, or rolled, whichever is better.
If everyone can put some updates in the class line of their profile that would be super helpful - Hp, AC, saves, perception, initiative would all be really helpful for me.
Also since a day has passed, anyone can roll again on the hand, or take 20 to Identify it. There is also a fair bit of useful loot picked up recently, between cold iron weapons, magic daggers, armor, etc. Feel free to divide it up amongst yourselves or the other refugees.
Choosing between sorcerer and rogue again... is being able to make the entire party sneaky more useful than more magic? Or should I just push towards more spells?
Its a hand of the mage
Useful, but I can already do that, so anyone else is welcome to it.
Well sorcerer 2 gets you another 1st level spell/day; rogue 2 gets you a rogue talent. Both give you +1 to hit, Rogue is +1 reflex saves, Sorc is +1 Will save. TBH I'd probably go Sorcerer, since it'll give you more options in a combat encounter over rogue right now.
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Short term, I have 3 1st level spells per day already, another level makes that 4 and I gain a cantrip. But it's a step closer to levels that make more difference.
Master of Shadows lets me grant everyone in the party a +13 Stealth skill (as a move action while they move at half rate). (I assume they wouldn't get my size bonus.) That's the main thing that's tempting there. I'm leaning towards sorcerer though.
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bare with me, I did something silly that's going to take a little bit to figure out. I'm taking improved familiar and dropping one of the templates onto Caleb, just not sure if I want Celestial or Fey touched.
I sort of dig celestial, but fey touched fits better with the vibe you’ve got going on.
Leveling in bard
I'm not sure what to take as a feat. I want craft wonderful item, but the level requirement for the good things I could make with it are so high.
Well, you can always have Sighere or Premek help with the craft wondrous, so there's that...
Do you have weapon finesse?
I was thinking of taking the Lookout teamwork feat. Only works if multiple people take it though.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/lookout-combat-teamwork
I don't know enough about magic item crafting to comment on that. As a sorcerer, I only have a fairly small spell repertoire, so it might require some planning. I think Sighere is less limited in that respect.
Craft W I is something I am considering for the future, got a couple other things I wanted to do first.
I would be down looking ahead at coordinating some of the teamwork feats.
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I do Sneak Attack damage now!
It really seems like there should be a teamwork feat that makes it easier for two people to flank, but there doesn't seem to be unless your foe is large which is pretty limited (e.g. Overwhelm which requires 2 sizes larger).
I guess Coordinated Reposition helps somewhat.
Or Pack Attack
2 of the feats I was looking at are teamwork feats too. I was debating Lookout and Pack attack. Happy to work with whatever. Step up is also tempting, which has some neat teamwork options later down the line.
Also, is anybody taking the Knowledge:Religion skill? I was thinking of taking it just so SOMEBODY in this party could actually roll on it. (Maybe I've been listening to a lit of the religious types talk around the campfire, or am finally starting to understand some of the things I've seen in the past? Who knows!)
Also, let's roll for HP!
Yeah...that minimum thing you were talking about...I'll be going with that. sigh
FYI I wouldn't hamstring more utility skills at this point for kn: Religion You've got a bit before it becomes mildly relevant again. Step up is a great feat, and Lookout is also a good feat if a couple people will invest in it. Teamwork feats do work better with specific classes which can get them free, but if the group wants to invest in them, they are really handy! Precise Strike may be more worthwhile, since there is a lot of Dex in the party, and manuevering isn't too bad if you all invest in a little bit of acrobatics to avoid attacks of opportunity.
Also to point out to Ryll, if you pick a specific weapon now you'll get your dex to damage from level 3 rogue, which could make using two of them more beneficial - shortsword is great for that FYI.
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I'm torn between dagger and shortsword as my specific weapon. I actually have some good quality daggers, so I could put that Dex damage to use now. I don't know how feasible it is for the crafters to alter any of the long swords we've looted.
Clearly we need to take out more Hobgoblin scouts! (This is how players become murder hobos. It's the best way to go shopping)
Speaking of loot, I'd like to toss my hat into the ring for the MW Studded Leather armor, and the Cat's grace potions. Thoughts?
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You clearly can't give the Cat's Grace potions to me, they'll make me insufferable. ;)
In addition to the pair of +1 daggers, there's also a masterwork cold iron dagger, so it's a pretty good assortment.
If no one takes me up on Lookout (fine either way), I will probably do either Detect Expertise, or Improved Initiative. Or Accomplished Sneak Attacker.
I think while the daggers are all decent at the moment, the shortswords will be more valuable long-term with the higher damage die; and maybe Smith Kinig could work on making some once you find a more permanent home. :)