[GDVIII]GMGrumpelStiltzkin PFS #10-1 Oathbreakers Die (Inactive)

Game Master GrumpelStiltzkin

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Male

Mingle here until we start

The Exchange

Male Ulfen Ranger 2 HP 20/20 | AC 17, T 13, FF 14 | Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2 | Init +4 | Perc +8 | SM +2 Effects:

Waggi here. He's currently finishing up another game.

Can you connect gameplay so we can get notifications? Thanks.

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

Tsuan Lai is eager to explore the world!

Grand Lodge

F Halfling cavalier (honor guard) 1/swashbuckler (mouser) 1 | Hp4/19| AC 20 Tc 15 Flat 16 | F+4 R+7 W+2 +2 vs Fear | CMB +0 CMD 14 | Perc +6 | Init +4 | Panache 3 of 3

Pleasure to meet you!

Grand Lodge

Male Half-Orc CG Warpriest 2 | HP 18/18 | | AC:18 T:12 FF:16 | CMB:5 CMD:17 | Saves F:+6 R:+4 W:+7 | Init:+2 | Per: +3 | Blessings 4/4 | Fervor 2/3

Hi, on the signup sheet this game was first announced as being run on RPGeek, but apparently it's run here at Paizo's. I've never played on the Paizo forums before, but I might give it a try.

I'm sure there is a good introductory read on how this forum works?

For starters, how do you put all that character information in your headlines? Do I just put that in my characters Classes/Levels field on the charsheet?

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

Saw there was an opening here on the spreadsheet and signed up. If that's not correct, gimme a holler and I'll withdraw...

Got to upgrade Wymarc to 3rd level but should have that done in the next day or so...

Kumak, you get the header to show by manipulating the Race, Classes/Level, and Gender entries in your profile; I use primarily Classes/Level. You can click on Wymarc's avatar on this post and see as an example on his profile. You can just cut and paste from there and adapt as you will...

Grand Lodge

Male Half-Orc CG Warpriest 2 | HP 18/18 | | AC:18 T:12 FF:16 | CMB:5 CMD:17 | Saves F:+6 R:+4 W:+7 | Init:+2 | Per: +3 | Blessings 4/4 | Fervor 2/3

Cool, thanks! I think I can figure it out now.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

No worries, Kurnak.

I just noticed you’re derf red...I played several of the We Be Goblin scenarios with you over on RPGgeek...I was Chuffy. Looking forward to playing with you again...

Grand Lodge

Male Half-Orc CG Warpriest 2 | HP 18/18 | | AC:18 T:12 FF:16 | CMB:5 CMD:17 | Saves F:+6 R:+4 W:+7 | Init:+2 | Per: +3 | Blessings 4/4 | Fervor 2/3

Of course, Otha! Yeah, I'm also looking forward to it!

Grand Lodge

F Halfling cavalier (honor guard) 1/swashbuckler (mouser) 1 | Hp4/19| AC 20 Tc 15 Flat 16 | F+4 R+7 W+2 +2 vs Fear | CMB +0 CMD 14 | Perc +6 | Init +4 | Panache 3 of 3

I forget, when does everything start?


Male

I’ll open up gameplay today and everyone can mingle, but no official post until it starts. I think the 27th.

Liberty's Edge

Resources:
Alter Self : Racial 1 min. Metamorph 2 hour. Mutagen (+4 Str, -2 Int) 20 minutes | Inspiration 2/2
HP 18/18 | AC 16 (T 10 FF 16) | CMD 13 | Saves 5/3/0 | Perception +4 | Init +0 | CG Female Ganzi Alchemist (Metamorph) | GM Folio Reroll +2 | Inspired

Hi everyone.


Male

Well hello. I am opening up gameplay so everyone can mingle before me start.


Male

Everyone probably all ready know, but I’ll post the email anyway. Gameday VIII has been pushed back.

Hey Everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. I regret to inform you all that we will have to postpone Gameday VIII by 2 weeks.

This would place our new dates for Gameday at: 09 Sept 2019 - 17 Nov 2019

WHAT IS GOING ON? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?

As most of you are aware, the majority of the GM’s have not received their scenario support for the Convention to include a good portion of the Specials. With Tonya occupied by other duties this weekend, we realized as a team that we are very unlikely to see the remainder of scenario support drop by Monday the 26th. Multiple avenues were discussed and what seems to be the best solution is to push Gameday back by two weeks. This will allow enough time for the GM’s to receive their scenarios and prep them.

BUT WHAT IF WE ALREADY HAVE OUR SCENARIOS, CAN WE START THEM?

Please hold off until the new start date to be able to eligible for your boon rewards. I understand this is a large inconvenience, we are doing everything we can to make this work. Part of that is to have everyone one the same start / end times rather than scattered.

We apologize for the inconvenience that this may cause, but we want all our GMs to have a chance to shine.

HOW DO I NOTIFY MY PLAYERS?

Go ahead and post the news to your tables. Feel free to copy this email if you wish. We will be posting notices in all the PBP lodges as well as the Gameday VIII Announcement page.

I know this is not what we hoped to do, and I’m sorry. Thank you for understanding that we’re scrambling to fix this.

If you have any other questions please don’t be afraid to ask.

-Tyranius


Male

Please flip through the maps and notes to make sure you can edit them. Please put your character icon on the first sheet of the notes and fill out your initiative dice block on the second sheet of the notes.

Liberty's Edge

Resources:
Alter Self : Racial 1 min. Metamorph 2 hour. Mutagen (+4 Str, -2 Int) 20 minutes | Inspiration 2/2
HP 18/18 | AC 16 (T 10 FF 16) | CMD 13 | Saves 5/3/0 | Perception +4 | Init +0 | CG Female Ganzi Alchemist (Metamorph) | GM Folio Reroll +2 | Inspired

The notes and maps are in "view only" mode for me.


Male

Should be fixed.

Grand Lodge

F Halfling cavalier (honor guard) 1/swashbuckler (mouser) 1 | Hp4/19| AC 20 Tc 15 Flat 16 | F+4 R+7 W+2 +2 vs Fear | CMB +0 CMD 14 | Perc +6 | Init +4 | Panache 3 of 3

All set on my end.


Male

I see everyone has gotten acquainted so we can get right into the fun.


Male

Just waiting on 2 players before I update.


Male

If you want to retcon something from round 1 that’s fine. I accidentally skipped over that part. Just let me know what you decide. Detect poison did not reveal anything.

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

The person with the highest Perception bonus should have made the roll to find the poison, with others aiding.

How many others aided should have been a function of DC. If we knew it was DC 25, Etna should have rolled with two of us helping.

To be fair, if we didn't know the DC, I would have assumed DC 15-20, and would have rolled independently (+4 shouldn't aid +6 until DC 24 or so). Either way, Etna made the DC 25 and I think we should move forward having made it.

[/nerdage]

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

Just wondering as I was going to roll Perception as my mod is +9...but then saw you rolled a 20 after Aetna mentioned next Perception roll got +5...wasn’t sure if I needed to perhaps go on and roll Survival instead...

The Exchange

Male Ulfen Ranger 2 HP 20/20 | AC 17, T 13, FF 14 | Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2 | Init +4 | Perc +8 | SM +2 Effects:

There's no need to meta game and plan out every last roll. Just 'roll' with it. If you feel your character is well equipped to deal with a threat then make the roll. If, as we play along, your character sees another that is succeeding at some sort of check then aid them.

Unless we're all playing lawful, strict and rigid characters (Which Waggi is very much not) then all that planning seems pretty forced.

*But please as a GM, if there is an instance where only one player can make a check on something please point that out.

**Also, don't assume your characters know the DC of something. Decide ahead of time if they are more of a 'take 10 because I rock at this' type or a 'fly by the seat of the pants and hope to get lucky' type. Judging the DC of a random check, other than maybe something physical like jump and climb or swim, to me seems too metagamey.


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Male

Don’t worry Waggi, if there’s something that only one person can make a check on I’ll point it out.

The Exchange

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retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

We don't have to plan out every last roll, but the way the first round went down just doesn't make sense. Wymarc said he went to the desk but didn't roll. Khari aided ... nobody? Tsuan rolled. Etna aided me.

If we just Que Sera Sera the whole thing, that's fine. If we want to pretend we don't know the DCs, that's fine too. Let's just decide so we know what remains to be done in Round 2.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

Sorry for the confusion on my part. There didn’t appear to be a map for this part; I didn’t roll because I didn’t know where the desk was and thought it might take a double move to get there...when Etna assisted and said the next Perception roll could add +5, I just assumed when you rolled the 20, you got the +5 and hit the DC...but you mentioned aiding...I wasn’t sure whether or not the potion was found and didn’t want to search for it if it was.

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

I think it's super unclear what else there is to search even if we did find the potion, and whether it's intended for us to split the party.

Tsuan hit a 21 (rolled a 17, +4 from Etna), which is a search that went very well. Honestly, if we as players don't metagame, she has to seriously consider that the potion isn't in the desk.

Her 20 was for Round 2 search or aid. If we don't metagame, I'm going to declare she's independently searching someplace other than the desk (because she just searched the desk very thoroughly) and not aiding - she has no hope of hitting a DC 25, but she doesn't know that.


Male

I'm going to interject here. Give me a minute to type something up and i'll post again when i'm done.


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I think everyone is thinking was too hard about the DC of the rolls needed to accomplish something. I as a GM will not let the DCs get in the way of you accomplishing everything in the mission. If I feel like you are going to miss something important then I will adjust on the fly so no worries there.

The potion- I don't want to post any spoilers, but I believe that I should at least confirm something before we get way off track. THE POTION IS IN THE DESK. IT'S JUST THE MEANS OF HOW YOU FIND IT(WHICH YOU WILL EVENTUALLY).

As a GM I have a few rules I always follow.

1. My players will have fun.
2. I give my best effort to not kill players.
3. I will adjust so my players get everything the adventure has to offer.

So in saying that, stop worrying about the DCs of checks and just play. I'll make sure everything gets done that needs to get done. So lets just play. Does that sound like a deal?

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

Sounds good, GM. I wasn't so much worried about the DC as I was I didn't want to waste an action...so I was kind of waiting to see if the potion was found before I acted. From here on out in that situation, I'll just make a contingency post instead of waiting...

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

I think that all sounds good in a vacuum, but given that all six of us have posted since Thursday night, it really doesn't address any of the practical concerns of what is going on right now.

Did we find the potion in round 2? Did we find it in round 1? Where is Waggi, did he run off following the tracks? If Tsuan found the potion in round 2, was Wymarc also searching thr desk concurrently? Are there other things he could have searched if he knew Tsuan had found the potion?

If it doesn't matter that people are wasting turns, can we just drop the turns altogether? The whole point of going round by round is to impart urgency and to make sure everyone has equal numbers of actions. If we don't need turns or DCs, why didn't we just roleplay finding the potion and moving on to dosing it?


Male

Working on a post. Few more minutes.


Male

Sorry everyone. Been getting my ass handed to me at work all week and I’m worn out. I’ll get you an update tomorrow.

The Exchange

Male Ulfen Ranger 2 HP 20/20 | AC 17, T 13, FF 14 | Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2 | Init +4 | Perc +8 | SM +2 Effects:

No problem GM.

I'll be away on a one nighter camping/fishing/foraging trip until Saturday night at the earliest. Please bot freely.

The Exchange

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retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

Me camping IRL:

Camping: 1d20 ⇒ 17
Fishing: 1d20 - 2 ⇒ (16) - 2 = 14
Foraging: 1d20 - 5 ⇒ (11) - 5 = 6


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Male

Took the kids on a last second trip to HersheyPark yesterday. I wanted to get you an update right when I got home, but I was worn out. Working on your update now.

Grand Lodge

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Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

No worries, GM, the site has been down most of the day...


Male

In regard to the Kn. Local spoilers in my current post, it doesn’t really say when they were to be rolled for so feel free to read them if anyone rolls a good check. After Bosk was poisoned everyone took off. I’d say checks would of been immediately afterwards so that’s my mistake.

The Exchange

Male Ulfen Ranger 2 HP 20/20 | AC 17, T 13, FF 14 | Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2 | Init +4 | Perc +8 | SM +2 Effects:

I am totally confused on what is currently happening at the distillery.

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

Me too, but I thought we had agreed to just play along.


Male

Updating the maps. Give me a few minutes.


Male

Map is updated. Ramyla is in red. The two in the top left are just patrons drinking.


Male

Update incoming!!!


Male

Lai-standing was my move action so forget my attack.

Waggi-they can be found anywhere so your check was good. I’ll post with my update later.


Male

I’ve had this migraine going on 2 days now. I’ll have to get you an update tomorrow. I’m going to bed.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf CG / UC Rogue 3 / Infiltrator 3 | HP:20/46 | AC:19 T:15 FF:14 | CMB:6 CMD:21 | Saves F:+6 R:+12 W:+4 (+2 vs enchantments) | Init:+7 | Per: +17 |
Skills:
DD+17, KnLoc+4, Stealth+19, Acrobatics +19

Want to clarify before I post...isn't Lai stabilized now? I thought a stabilization was a Heal DC15? I might've missed it but I didn't see Lai with the bleed condition so I though Khari's 16 Heal roll would've stabilized her...


Male

Yes Lai is stabilized. No the doppelgänger did not take a step-yet. That’s part of the fun.

Liberty's Edge

Resources:
Alter Self : Racial 1 min. Metamorph 2 hour. Mutagen (+4 Str, -2 Int) 20 minutes | Inspiration 2/2
HP 18/18 | AC 16 (T 10 FF 16) | CMD 13 | Saves 5/3/0 | Perception +4 | Init +0 | CG Female Ganzi Alchemist (Metamorph) | GM Folio Reroll +2 | Inspired

Any chance I can buy a Cure Light Wounds potion to revive Tsuan? Since we're in the city? That or I spend 2 PP to buy a CLW wand and Waggi uses it?

Dopplegangers are nasty at low levels due to their high damage output.

The Exchange

retired in PF1, continued in PF2 | "Tsuan" | NG female (she/her) human (Tien) ninja 7 / swashbuckler 1 | AC 24 (T 17, FF 18, DP 26, OD 27) | HP 68/68 | I+7, P+11 | F+6, R+14, W+6 | ki pool (6/6), panache (3/3), clover (3/3), Timelost +1 (1/1) | Active Conditions: none

Does our party not have any healing?

Let me check Tsuan's character sheet to see how much gold she has left over. Potion of CLW is 50 gp, right? She may have that on her.

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