GM Dak - Shattered Star 1

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Starting Day: Fireday, 2nd of Arodus 4712 AR
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Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

A dip to get cantrips and some 1st level spells, as well as school powers and an arcane bond, would be viable. Slows your cleric progression but gives you a lot of tricks.


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Sorry for the bit of delay on my end, should be back to quicker posting tomorrow.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Just as a heads up, if anyone ever feels I play up my 8 Charisma a bit too harshly, just say the word. Otherwise, Veltariel will continue being Ice Queen Extraordinaire. Hahaha


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Oh I certainly don't mind. I'm laughing about the whole thing ooc!

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

Not me. I love the contrast and dynamic it creates in our group. Eventually Ez is going to lose her shut though, just a heads up! :)

Likewise here though. If you are getting tired or too much Esrisi, please let me know!

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M Elf Arcanist (Magaambyan Initiate) 3 | HP 17/17 | AC 14-12-12 | F+2, R+3, W+3 | Per +9, Sense M +2, Init +2 | Arcane Reservoir 8/9

Mokhasi will have ALL the knowledges soon enough. I had to do this distribution for RP!

And diplomacy at level 7!

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

Level 7, eh? At this pace that should be like June, maybe July? ;)


Female Half-Elf Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim) 3 | HP 21/22 | AC:15 T:11 FF:14 CMD:11 | F+4, R+2, W+7 (+9 vs enchantment) | Init +1 | Perc +11 | Vermin Repellent

Okay, I gave in and decided Caroliss is building toward Mystic Theurge despite my reservations about how effective it'll be. I figure Esrisi and Mokhasi can pack the punchy spells and carry the spelllcasting load through those awkward middle levels when Caroliss is throwing around large quantities of first level spells. Making a few minor tweaks to her build, but it'll be hard to even notice.

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

To be completely honest Caroliss, the way this group is forming together I wouldn't worry about it at all. With six players I think we'll find a way to either cover the gaps or work around them. We can get some wands or I'm sure the GM will help us cover our bases as needed.

I had PM'd you previously about how I love watching characters develop personalities that expand from your simple concept and turn down paths that you could have never anticipated. One of my favorite things is developing a sub-optimal character based upon what happens to them throughout the course of a game and letting them evolve organically rather than forced down a path. I mean, if this current trajectory continues then I can foresee Ez taking a level of Monk (Martial Artist) so she can repeatedly punch Vel in the mouth!!! :D


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Lol!

Honestly, I’m kind of (secretly) looking forward to our first fist fight in the group over my antics! Win or lose, I think it may open Veltariel’s eyes to some things (depending on how it goes, of course). Sometimes, people become good friends after they have a good brawl!

Granted, I’m not saying I plan on pushing y’all harder and harder JUST to get to that point, but I definitely see with some of these personalities that inevitably happening one day. Lol


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Drask will be dipping into armored hulk barbarian at around level 4, give or take. It's going to represent his brother's style of fighting merging with his own.

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

At the given rate of escalation between the two of us, I can't see it making past the second or third day before Esrisi loses it. Struggling with self-control and taking great offense to Vel's comments and behaviors, I totally see her being the aggressor as well. If she fights fair, there is no way she should win with her lack of true combat experience. But there is no guarantee she'll fight fair ;)

Eventually I'm looking forward to our Gimli & Legolas relationship developing, but don't expect that any time soon! Those type of things take time.


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Drask isn't bothered by it. He now knows that she understands common, so she's just doing it to be a prick. He doesn't really care to intervene with people as long as they're not trying to kill him, and even if he could understand her callous comments he would mostly just ignore them. He's not the prideful type, promises and threats mean nothing to him until you back it up with action.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Work is being particularly prohibitive to let me get a post up. So until I free up, feel free to assume Veltariel is her cheerful self and following along happily.


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

It's not your fault half of your blood is garbage, you can always strive to do better!

Vel would work well as a Slytherin :P


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Lol

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING! She’s my friend, go get your own!


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

She needs a REAL friend.

I can be that friend.

;-P

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

The gods won't be able to protect you if Ez thinks you are stealing Caroliss from her.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

*calmly sips at her (Elven) wine while maintaining eye contact with Esrisi*


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Careful now, with the exception of save or lose spells (color spray, sleep, etc.) martials tend to wipe the floor with casters at low levels :P

The Concordance

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

I didn’t say she was going to approach this situation rationally my friend. She doesn’t care if she wins, she just will do whatever it takes to protect her own (kind of ironic given the situation). Esrisi has a dark core from her curses which are pulling at her. She may be all pink fluffy unicorn now, but it will not always be able to hold her composure.

Besides, isn’t that your problem? ;)

The Exchange

M Elf Arcanist (Magaambyan Initiate) 3 | HP 17/17 | AC 14-12-12 | F+2, R+3, W+3 | Per +9, Sense M +2, Init +2 | Arcane Reservoir 8/9

Couldn’t post all day, sorry chums!

I hope what Mokhasi has said is within the bounds of being respectful to Vel. He tries to be diplomatic even without formal training.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Hanging around on r20 if anyone wants to chat.


female Dwarf inquisitor 2/paladin 1 | HP 26/26 | AC 21 | T 11 | FF 20 | CMD 15 | Fort +7 | Ref +1 | Will +10 (+2 vs poisons/spells/abilities) | Init +4 | Perc +9 | 3/3 spells | 1/1 judegments | 6/6 adorations
current status:
vermin repellent, alchemist fire

Sorry busy morning, won't be able to post til tonight.

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

I'd like to get some feedback from the group.

I want to make sure we're on the same page with Ez being the face of the group.
When conversational elements present themselves I have been taking the lead in driving them forward without waiting for consent from the other players first. This is primarily due to her personality, but I don't want to alienate my party members.

Are you ok with this approach or would you rather I pause to allow others to chime in? I have a tendency to be a fast poster and it can quickly draw the action forward and I don't want to frustrate any of you guys by doing so.


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Esrisi has a bubbly personality and an 18 charisma. Three party members have a negative charisma, Caroliss breaks even and only has bluff right now, and arcanists don't get any social skills as class skills anyways. I think it would be rather strange if she wasn't the party face.

Full steam ahead, I say. If you weren't taking the initiative with being a face, we'd probably all dick around and prod you to move us forward anyways.

I have RSS feeds set up so I get nearly-instant phone notifications when the thread is updated. If I have something to say, I'll say it.

Edit: Updated, how did I miss Caroliss?


Female Half-Elf Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim) 3 | HP 21/22 | AC:15 T:11 FF:14 CMD:11 | F+4, R+2, W+7 (+9 vs enchantment) | Init +1 | Perc +11 | Vermin Repellent

I'm totally fine with it. Keeps the game moving forward!

Caroliss can be "helpful" with social interactions, giving a +4 bonus to Diplomacy (a skill she will dip in soon). So if you want to wait for extra help on the dice, that's useful. Also, it's possible there will be times in the future when others can post more frequently, and can carry the conversation load.

One of my favorite games from days past was a Kingmaker game in which our Queen was a sorceress who put a lot of thought into her character and was the party face. Really helped make the game tick. This game has a similar feel.

Also, I protest--Caroliss has a beautiful 0 modifier to charisma!


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Fine by me, though Veltariel might argue that Adorellan should be in charge ;-P.

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Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

Alright, good to hear. Thanks guys, I feel better now! :) I do feel like she can drive the game forward through the required slower conversational NPC bits to allow maximum time for party interaction.

It certainly fits her personality and I don't mind driving the conversational bits forward at all. When it comes to Bluff or Intimidate though, she'll probably stop to defer to others if possible.

An yes, I'm waiting for the day where Veltariel humbly approaches Esrisi to ask her to do the speaking for her, lol.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Caroliss, did you have any reply to Veltariel’s response earlier when the two were alone?

Esrisi: Elves live longer than humies. Hahaha


Female Half-Elf Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim) 3 | HP 21/22 | AC:15 T:11 FF:14 CMD:11 | F+4, R+2, W+7 (+9 vs enchantment) | Init +1 | Perc +11 | Vermin Repellent

I didn't want to retcon too much. Caroliss simply says something bland and non-committal before returning to the party.

But most likely she will take up Vel's offer at some point.

The Exchange

M Elf Arcanist (Magaambyan Initiate) 3 | HP 17/17 | AC 14-12-12 | F+2, R+3, W+3 | Per +9, Sense M +2, Init +2 | Arcane Reservoir 8/9

I am happy for you to do it as well. If you’d like me to RP a different diplomatic approach, just ask for Mokhasi’s opinion and he will provide it. He tries to be as friendly as possible to people and assumes the best of everyone when he first meets them, but he does not necessarily have an outgoing personality. He approaches things as analytically as possible, which may not be valuable (if someone’s behavior defies logic, for example). That said, I will be doing a few points of diplo here and there in preparation for level 7, so at minimum he can assist here and there.

He is not so extroverted as to want to be the leader though (Sorry Veltariel!).


Female Half-Elf Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim) 3 | HP 21/22 | AC:15 T:11 FF:14 CMD:11 | F+4, R+2, W+7 (+9 vs enchantment) | Init +1 | Perc +11 | Vermin Repellent
Veltariel Mendrasti wrote:

She needs a REAL friend.

I can be that friend.

;-P

It's happening . . . :P


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

I just realized that Vel also took the Serpent Runner campaign trait. I wonder if we had ever crossed paths there?


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

I took it, though honestly, it likely hasn’t happened directly in that arena. She probably did some put fighting abroad. If Dak prefers, I can change the campaign trait if he’d like.

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10
Caroliss Kaddren wrote:
It's happening . . . :P

T_T

Sapher wrote:
Sorry busy morning, won't be able to post til tonight.

Poor dwarf. Comes home to 40+ new posts. :)


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

Lol!

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

I have my monthly local game tomorrow and will be more or less out of pocket most of the day. I'll try to check in, but no promises.

If I'm holding things up, don't hesitate to GMPC as needed Dak.


Female Half-Elf Cleric (Varisian Pilgrim) 3 | HP 21/22 | AC:15 T:11 FF:14 CMD:11 | F+4, R+2, W+7 (+9 vs enchantment) | Init +1 | Perc +11 | Vermin Repellent

I will be out of pocket much of tomorrow too.


Reference Image Elf Ranger 2/Brawler 1| AC 18 FF 14 T 14| HP 12/22| F +5 R +9 W +1| Init +4| Percep +9
Buffs:
None

I’m always posting out of pocket. :-P


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female Dwarf inquisitor 2/paladin 1 | HP 26/26 | AC 21 | T 11 | FF 20 | CMD 15 | Fort +7 | Ref +1 | Will +10 (+2 vs poisons/spells/abilities) | Init +4 | Perc +9 | 3/3 spells | 1/1 judegments | 6/6 adorations
current status:
vermin repellent, alchemist fire

I'M CAUGHT UP!!!

The Concordance

Female Aasimar (Scion of Humanity) Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1/Oracle (Divine Numerologist, Dual-Cursed Oracle) 2 | HP: 25/25 | AC: 16/16 (MA: 20) | T: 16 | FF: 14 (MA: 18) | CMD: 20 | Fort: +4 | Ref: +3 | Will: +2 | Init: +1 | Perc: +10

GM Dak - You've done quite well in pulling this group of people together. I'm really enjoying the personalities of each of the characters.


female Dwarf inquisitor 2/paladin 1 | HP 26/26 | AC 21 | T 11 | FF 20 | CMD 15 | Fort +7 | Ref +1 | Will +10 (+2 vs poisons/spells/abilities) | Init +4 | Perc +9 | 3/3 spells | 1/1 judegments | 6/6 adorations
current status:
vermin repellent, alchemist fire

Completely agree!

And also fine with Esrisi taking the lead. Sapher will step forward any time she disagrees. Keeping a steady pace is very important so THANK YOU!


HR | MM | RotRL1 | RotRL2 | SD | SS1 | SS2 | WftC_1 | WftC_2 |

It's been great! As much as I am doing, it is also in big part to all of you keeping active!

Congrats on officially entering the second chapter of book one, time to update the header :D

The Exchange

M Elf Arcanist (Magaambyan Initiate) 3 | HP 17/17 | AC 14-12-12 | F+2, R+3, W+3 | Per +9, Sense M +2, Init +2 | Arcane Reservoir 8/9

Really?? Interesting.

I’m only half paying attention today, kid time.


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made
Field Marshal Helmuth Karl Bernhard Graf von Moltke wrote:
"No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy."
Me wrote:
"No build survives poor dice rolls."

The Exchange

M Elf Arcanist (Magaambyan Initiate) 3 | HP 17/17 | AC 14-12-12 | F+2, R+3, W+3 | Per +9, Sense M +2, Init +2 | Arcane Reservoir 8/9

Some of my builds explicitly attempt to remove luck from consideration. It isn’t super easy in Pathfinder, but there’s ways to lessen the impact!


female Dwarf inquisitor 2/paladin 1 | HP 26/26 | AC 21 | T 11 | FF 20 | CMD 15 | Fort +7 | Ref +1 | Will +10 (+2 vs poisons/spells/abilities) | Init +4 | Perc +9 | 3/3 spells | 1/1 judegments | 6/6 adorations
current status:
vermin repellent, alchemist fire

Oh, on the map Sapher is under the dead goblin. In the game she is holding it up like a banner screaming about the consequences at throwing things at elves!!!

just kidding


Male Half-Orc Slayer (Ankou’s Shadow) 2/Unchained Barbarian 1 | HP 31/31 | Mirror Image Active | AC 17, Touch 11, FF 16 | F +7, R +4, W +2 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Raging Statistics:
HP 31/31 (6 temp) | AC 15, Touch 9, FF 14 | F +7, R +4, W +4 (+2 vs fear) | Init +1 | Perc +8
Conditions:
Filth Fever, 1 save made

Dang Sapher, how are you managing 2d8+6?

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