Welcome! This is a discussion thread for my Outpost II Season of Tapestry's Tides table.
I'll have further instructions for everyone as we get closer to the start date. But feel free to post here in the meantime.
Please don't hesitate to ask any questions at any time.
Hoping for a fun game for everyone!
Hi all, I'm redeux. Been playing play-by-post here for about 1.5 years now. I BR'ed the first adventure of Tapestry Tide at Gen Con last year but I have yet to actually play through
Character wise, I'm Lem-- you're friendly neighborhood bard. I'll be using Skull and Shackles Lem with the Occult Adventures1 and Ultimate Intrigue decks. I picked Lem because I'm trying to break my norm. Traditionally in RPG's I play a lot of rogues or Sword and shield characters. In PACG I've also had a strong preference towards solo-capable/self reliant characters. It's not that I dislike or don't value support roles, I just generally prefer to play something else. This is my attempt to try something a little different. I also picked Lem because I wanted to play someone from the Skull and Shackles set to be a little more thematic which made Lem an obvious candidate.
Few notes:
• I'll be looking to double up with at least one of you at locations since Lem isn't super strong by himself, but by using my bard influence I can hand d4's out like candy.
• I have quite a bit of examining in my deck
• SnS Lem has a max of 4 spell card feats. I'm starting off with a cure in my deck but long term I'm unsure if this will stay or not.
Excited to meet/play with everyone!
Hullo, Elinnea here! I haven't played any of this season yet, so I don't know what to expect other than that it uses the S&S set.
I've signed up to tentatively play with Zova the Shifter, because I have not gotten to play her yet and I'm curious to see how she works. Also she has Fortitude and Survival, and can discard a card to move, which could be helpful if the season includes the ship mechanic. I haven't looked ahead at her roles yet, but I will probably add the Hunter deck to get access to more animal allies and spells.
I do have a variety of other characters I'd like to play as well, so if we end up with an obvious gap in the group I can switch around.
Hi,
I’m Vincent, aka masaru. I’ve started playing PACG with the tablet game, then played Org Play on this forum when I saw that was possible, then bought Wrath of the Righteous to play (mostly solo).
Since I saw that Celeste was an available character, I wanted to play her in Skulls & Shackles or one of the Season that uses that set.
For those unfamiliar with the character, she is a lunar naga, and appear in a series of novel from Chris Jackson. She is the navigator of the ship, Stargazer.
In PACG, she is a sorcerer (most naga have some spell-like ability in the RPG) with a bit of examine power (she is a bit of an astrologer/has prophetic visions). I’m thinking of just using Pathfinder Tales, I’ll maybe add Ultimate Magic at some point.
Happy to join the crew.
The child of two half orc parents, Koren has always been an unusual half orc. His parents raised him in a loving home, fostering his strong sense of responsibility and community, but witnessing the aftermath of an orc raid on a convent of Sarenrae taught him the power of hatred. He swore vengeance against his orc cousins, pledging to defend innocents and the devout from suffering. Today, Koren delivers others from pain by sharing their burdens. He channels his suffering into righteous fury
So your friendly paladin of Abadar is keen to extoll the benefits of cooperation and civilization and a strong hatred for all those who would destroy communities
Hey! This is kuey, playing Yoon of OA2. This is only my second PACG game. Started ACG on my iPad, then broke down and bought Mummy's Mask and dabbled a bit with my friends. My first PACG PBP was using Mavaro in the recently ended Cosmic Captive special, coincidentally run by redeux!
Being my second PACG game, I think I'm still learning the ropes. I I found playing Mavaro to be quite versatile while conservative. I suspect Yoon might play out quite differently which is why I wanted to try. We'll see what happens... :)
Hi! As we're 1 week away from the start of Outpost II, here are a few more instructions:
Character Selection
Please finalize your character choice as soon as possible. If you haven’t already, include a link to the deck handler in your profile.
Send me a private message if you need to provide verification of deck ownership, if you have a chronicle sheet from using your character previously, or if you will be using a different Pathfinder ID than the one you signed up with.
Party Communication
Some parties like to strategize via google hangouts; some parties just use it to alert when someone’s turn is up. Others parties prefer to communicate entirely via the discussion tab. It’s up to you!
Using a google hangout is completely optional. Please send me a Private Message indicating whether or not this is something you would be interested in; and if it is, please also include the e-mail address you wish to use. This is entirely voluntary, and the decision is anonymous. If anyone, for any reason, would rather not use google hangout, I will not set it up.
Posting Expectations
Please indicate what time zone you are in.
Try to take your turn within 24 hours. Obviously, let real-life take priority, but out of courtesy to the other players, try to let us know if something does come up. If necessary, I or another player you designate can take your turn for you, so feel free to leave instructions if you anticipate not be able to post in a timely fashion.
Use a posting style that works best for you, with as much or as little flavor as you feel comfortable with. It’s your game! The one thing that I would request is that you label your dice rolls with at least the difficulty and type of check.
As always, let me know if any questions!
Koren is good to go
I am probably going to stick to standard tactics of covering as many locations as possible and only using his help an ally abilities as we get some locations closed (may make a great tag team with lem) I am slightly concerned about the lack of allies in his deck and I will probably prefer to keep blessings in hand rather than go mad exploring. I am hoping others can cover for his slow and steady pace. Sadly cure is a spell 2 in the paladin deck.
I linked my deck handler. I still need to finalize the starting deck, and will hopefully have that done tonight. This is a new character but I've used both Ultimate Wilderness and the Hunter deck before in online play - I assume I don't need to verify them again? I can send photos if you want them.
I'm in the US Central time zone.
I've never played as Zova or had her in a game I've played, so I'm not sure about strategy yet. I'll probably be figuring it out as we go.
Lem is good to go.
PM with info sent
Yes, I would be playing Yoon. Deck handler and starting hand is ready. I've not played her before so not exactly sure what her optimal strategy would be. She seems to be a combat monster. She can help in the combat checks of others in the same location, but at a cost of a discard, so I'm still uncertain when is the best time to use this. In fact, this is only my second PACG game so would still have much to learn.
I'm at GMT+0 currently. I can usually post in the morning about 9ish, and at night about 10ish. PM'ed you other information.
Yoon has one Cure spell but not the divine skill, for use in emergencies.
My deck for Zova is ready. All the card text is on this alias, under the "Current Deck" spoiler, so if you ever need to check what one of my cards does you can see it there. I have the Cloud Puff in my deck, but I intend to play it with the unofficial errata that it only applies to characters at my location. It sounds like a number of us have incentive to be in the same location as someone, so that should be interesting.
(Pst, kuey I don't have permission to access your deck handler from that link.)
(Pst, kuey I don't have permission to access your deck handler from that link.)
Oops, sorry about that. Fixed.
We start tomorrow! I've posted the scenario intro.
If you need to roll for plunder, roll 1d6 and consult the table in the scenario header.
If you need a random ship, roll 1d8 and consult the list in the scenario header, rerolling if you get your current ship.
Note that your starting location is predetermined for this scenario, so you will just need to draw your opening hand and decide on a turn order. I can the turn order set randomly, or to a specific order you choose.
If I don't hear a preference, I'll have it set in timezone order:
1) Celeste/勝20100
2) Koren/Merisal The Risen
3) Yoon/kuey
4) Lem/redeux
5) Zova/Elinnea
With Yoon going first.
Also, I rolled "players' choice" for your starting plunder, so vote for your preferred boon type when you post your opening hand. (If there's no majority by game start, I'll roll randomly among the choices with the most votes.)
First of all, I want to thank both 勝20100 and Redeux for how respectful they are being in raising their concerns and responding to the other's concerns.
I see 2 related issues:
1) How to resolve Steal Book this time
2) How to resolve Steal Book in general
Regarding 2:
This seemed to be a grey area in the rules. Technically, the Black Spot isn't Redeux's card yet, and Lem isn't yet making a check.
However- I think the intention of the rules is quite clear that this type of situation should *not* be ruled on by technicalities. Rather, this seems to me the type of situation that should be resolved via fairness and courtesy.
To me, it feels analogous to 2 players who both want the same upgrade: if they cannot reach consensus, the dispute is resolved randomly.
So, that would be my ruling for if the situation arises again. If Player A encounters an Arcane spell they want for themself, and Player B has indicated to use Steal Book in such circumstance: since the players cannot reach consensus, decide randomly.
(Ideally there would be some discussion, however I'm not going to require that given the limitations of asynchronous play. That's the whole point of leaving a note.)
Regarding 1:
I don't believe that either 勝20100 or Redeux acted maliciously in this instance. Nor do I believe that either player sought an unfair advantage in their actions.
(It sounds like 勝20100 had a certain experience in a past game, and Redeux genuinely did not see his note.)
So, I'd like to ask that 勝20100 accept that Lem acquired the Black Spot this time. (Or, if you prefer, accept that Redeux won the random roll to decide which of Lem/Celeste acquired it.)
The alternative would require Lem having to recharge his weapon instead, which would then cascade into his check against the Skeletal Crew.
If either player- or any player- has any further issues on this or any future issue, please do let me know via PM. I want to make sure that everyone is comfortable speaking up if there's a potential problem, and, more importantly, that everyone is having fun.
Thank you and sorry for not reading thoroughly. In the future I can defer the spells as needed, I'm playing a support character after all. Specifically with black spot it decreases difficulty by 2 currently whereas my power feat adds an average of 2.5 to effectively any check this scenario so that's why I said in chat had I read the notes I don't think I would've wanted it to be stolen.
I certainly empathize with not being able to use a cool card. My Zadim has played 32 scenarios and to my recollection has never used Flawless Monocle (basic) for the purpose of ignoring a trigger when he examines (which he does a lot). At this point I've just kept it in his deck for the hopes that some day he'll make use of it and it'll feel awesome.
Again, my sincere apologies, I don't want us to get off on the wrong foot and I promise if given the chance you'll see I tend to put other characters before myself whenever possible.
There is an ACG wiki that has _most_ cards in it. I still like to put my card descriptions directly in my handler but if you need to find out a card, check out the wiki
I think the Combat 10 uses the Skeletal Crew immunity so I can’t use my discard power to add a d8 + Poison.
This is an interesting question and one, frankly, I don't know if we can answer RAW with the current rules.
"If the card you’re encountering states that it is immune to a
particular trait, during the encounter, characters may not play cards
that have the specified trait or use powers that would add that trait
to the check.
To me, RAW, it's unclear what it means by "the check". In this case Lem is encountering the Skeletal Crew and Celeste is doing her own check, so "the check" the rules refer to is somewhat ambiguous. I think RAI is that you shouldn't be able to use your power feat and this would make sense thematically-- How does one skeleton Lem fight have immunity to poison but the other 4 attacking everyone do not have poison immunity? So personally I'd avoid using the feat but there may be an RAW argument for allowing it.
Hopefully the new core rulebook clarifies this when it comes out in a few months.
There is an ACG wiki that has _most_ cards in it. I still like to put my card descriptions directly in my handler but if you need to find out a card, check out the wiki
Sorry, yeah I knew the card did. I just didn't know why Koren was doing it. But that was because I didn't notice the Start of Turn check. Thanks!
Scenario rewards posted!
After you've settled on your upgrades and feats, note that the next scenario setup has an added twist. First choose your starting location, make any loot substitutions, and draw your opening hand. Then draw 3 more cards and move them to the "set aside" or "sideboard" portion of your deck tracker.
Also, let me know if you want any changes to the turn order; if not we'll continue with Lem. And if anyone (currently just Yoon) wants to substitute a seized ship for the Feathered Devil, let me know that too.
Now that you're warmed up, the next scenario will have standard ship movement. Like coordinating blessing usage, this can be tricky with play-by-post. In order to speed up gameplay, it might help to consider in advance what circumstances you do or don't want to be moved.
My order of preference for deck upgrades:
For my skill feat I will take Wisdom [X]+1
Korem preferences for deck upgrades
more tier 1 cards (not likely with next scenario)
However will take
Blessing b
Armour b
Item b
Weapon b
Will defer if someone else needs a pick
Skill feat str +1
1. Yoon just wanted to seize Wormwood at the end of the last scenario to get it on our chronicles to be used for a future scenario. For this scenario, I still feel safer to stay with the Feathered Devil as a more conservation choice.
2. Yoon's upgrade preferences are:
Spell B
Blessing B
3. Skill feat: Con +1
4. So for the next scenario, we know that the villain starts at the bottom of Sea Caves? So at the start, we should try to clear as many of the cards there as possible (except for the last), before focusing on the other locations? Also, to clarify, for Riptide Cove, we would effectively have to fight the henchman twice in succession? The first time to defeat as usual, the second time to close the location?
1. Feathered Devil is fine. And Lem is Okay to start unless someone else does. In general I like starting with who would've been next.
2. Deck upgrades...Only B level deck upgrade really worth while is Blessing B for Lem. Looks like there will be at least one for him.
3. Skill feat...torn here. But think I should start with Cha+1. Too many skills fall under that, even though Dex I'll be using more frequently for combat probably.
4. So for the next scenario, we know that the villain starts at the bottom of Sea Caves? So at the start, we should try to clear as many of the cards there as possible (except for the last), before focusing on the other locations? Also, to clarify, for Riptide Cove, we would effectively have to fight the henchman twice in succession? The first time to defeat as usual, the second time to close the location?
Correct on both accounts. Though I'm not sure I'd necessarily start at beach. Not a bad option but not required. And for grindlows- That'll make you think twice before climbing into their riptide coves!
Zova has a power to discard a card to move after an exploration. So if multiple people pile up at the Sea Caves before my turn, as long as there's a non-villain card for me to explore I can carry everyone away by ship to avoid the Con/Fort checks. Or I could do that with a Compass, if I get it in my hand. A trick like that might make more sense a round or two into the game, depending on how the game is going and what we've drawn.
I was thinking of having Yoon at the Sea Caves alone. She has 1d10+3 to fort, and especially if she gets Gom-Gom into her hand, has a good chance of clearing the start of turn check of Fort DC6.
Separately, I'm sorry this is probably not coming at a good time, but I would be going on a short hiking trip this weekend. Could someone bot Yoon? I've set the deck handler to allow anyone to edit.
1. I’m OK staying with Feathered Devil.
2. Upgrade, in order of preferences:
1.
2.
3.
4.
3. Skill Feat: Charisma +1
4. Will start at the Beach.
After checking, I think everyone has their first choice as deck upgrade, so I’ll replace Steal Book with Fiery Glare.
In that case, I will swap out my cuddly Koala with a Snow Leopard.
Koren will add recharge an armor [x] or a blessing when discards from his deck to add a d6 to another characters check
Will take armor 1 as his upgrade (champions do Maru replacing chain mail)
Yoon will take Spell 1, replacing Psychic Reading with Searing Flesh.
I'm not very sure about the Power feat. I kind of want to take the one that allows revealing blessing to use Fort, etc for combat, but not sure how much utility that has since she always start with at least one spell. Otherwise, I'll just increase the size of her hand. Suggestions?
Power feat: I think I’ll go with “At the end ☑ or start of your turn, you may recharge a card to examine the top card of another location deck.”
Deck upgrade: I would go for spell 1. Augury and Life Drain are both nice…
Deck Upgrades Desired:
Item 1 - Quick Change Mask
Weapon 1 - Captain's Cutlass
I'd prefer Item1 the most but if Zova wants it then I could still be happy with weapon1. The item1 will let me use my diplomacy skill on non-combat checks so it will be a keeper-card for this characters lifespan.
Powerfeat: Handsize+1 here.
I'm not very sure about the Power feat. I kind of want to take the one that allows revealing blessing to use Fort, etc for combat, but not sure how much utility that has since she always start with at least one spell. Otherwise, I'll just increase the size of her hand. Suggestions
Disclaimer: I haven't played Yoon myself and have only been at a table with one for a few sessions. I think eventually you're going to want at least Handsize+1 for Yoon. One role maxes out at 6 cards, the other maxes out at 7, so taking that would be a "safe" choice until you make up your mind.
On the Herald of Gom Gom role card your second power feat can let you recharge spells or blessings instead of discarding them. That may be nice, but if you're not planning on using that power feat then i'd probably skip the "Or spell" feat currently.
Which brings us back to the first power. Both feats under that power seem good. Which kind of brings me to the next point
You get 3 power feats before your role card. So right now you're choosing one, but OTOH you really only need to choose one you're NOT going to take. For Lem, I'm NOT taking armor proficiency. So now I know I am going to take Handsize[+1], 1d4 [+1][+2]. With that in mind, If you're going Elemental Annihilitor role, I'd most likely skip your second power's ([X] or spell) choice. If you're going Herald of Gom-Gom, then that's a harder choice. Your ([X] Or blessing) is probably the safer if choosing between that or the veteran-like feat
TLDR - I think Handsize+1 is the safest choice, and the [X] or blessing is the second safest choice. Just think about which feat you don't want to take, you'll be getting the other three before your role card.
Hey, thanks for the inputs. Looking ahead, I'll likely go for Elemental Annihilator, primarily to keep up with combat checks in higher tiers. With relatively low arcane skill, she can't really depend on spells to get her through combat.
That aside, good suggestion to look at which power feat I least want. Which is difficult because all look useful. Think I'll got for handsize +1 for now. Realise that Yoon is highly specialised for combat but outside of that, she is quite limited. Will have to depend on blessings for other encounters so good to have more options at hand.
I'm actually going to take Weapon B for my upgrade, and replace the Hatchet with a Wendifisa Spear.
For my power feat:
On your Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution check, you may discard ([X] or recharge) a card that has the Animal trait to add your Survival skill.
In that Case, Lem will use an organizer reward for a bonus deck upgrade. (Future reference, my boons and rewards for any specific character is listed under that alias with documentation).
He'll Take item 1, and weapon 1 as deck upgrades. (I'm assuming no one else has or wants to use an organizer reward here, but if i'm wrong, I'm happy to concede and let them take the weapon 1)
This way if someone else wants a weapon 1 later, then he has his most wanted upgrades. Lower priority upgrades will eventually be Blessing1 and ally1, but I don't necessarily need those within this adventure.
Going for Augury, replacing Detect Magic.
Also, every 2 scenarios you get a reward d20 roll! 1 or 20 wins.
Nope
negative
Nah
no boon...
Boon
Note that because of card movements, the ?s in the card counts represent both henchmen and unknown types.
My upgrade preferences for scenario C:
I assume I'll be able to get one of those. It would also be nice to pick up a Blessing B so I can get a Blessing of Kelizandri. I do have a Treasure Hunter boon so I might take a second upgrade, once I see what everyone else wants or needs.
If that fails and there is still a spell 1 available I’ll take it for a fiery glare but as that’s a b don’t want to take for someone else’s spell 1 (weapon of awe and stone skin are good spell 1 choices but for my deck the extra explore seems a bigger hole)
Trying to save armour upgrades for armour 1 but if nothing else available may magic scale mailto help keep hand free of excess armours
Yoon's preferences for deck upgrade are, in order:
Want to get the blessings of cayden cailean to beef up Yoon's poor strength checks.
edit: But if Koren has an important Blessing 1 to get, Yoon can afford to wait and just pick up Spell 1 for now, since we seem to have quite a lot of them.
Deck upgrade:
1. Spell 1. Life Drain to replace another Attack Spell
2. Ally 0. To grab snick
At some point a Blessing 1 would be nice, to grab Blessing of the Starsong but that can wait. No use for any Item 1.
Lem will take Blessing B. He also thinks a blessing 1 or Ally 1 would be nice at some point, but he's not in a rush for those. Blessing B will give him BoMilani
Want to get the blessings of cayden cailean to beef up Yoon's poor strength checks.
How does that work with Yoon? I know for your Mavaro that works because of he gets skills from the top card of his deck. But playing the card like normal BoCayden Cailean can only be used on non-combat checks for 2 dice.
Blessing
Traits: Divine Cayden Cailean
To Acquire: Strength Constitution 7 OR Divine 5
Discard this card to add 1 die to any check. Discard this card to add 2 dice to any non-combat Strength or Constitution check. Discard this card to explore your location. After you play this card, if it matches the top card of the blessings discard pile, recharge this card instead of discarding it.
BoAngradd (blessing 2) would give 2 dice to any check with fire trait would work, otherwise I don't think there's any other blessings in that deck that can give you +2 dice.
If you have Ultimate Intrigue BoZon-Kuthon (blessing 2) and BotMidnightLord (blessing 3) add 2 dice to any constitution check that could work. Otherwise I'm not sure too many other blessings would be able to help consistently (Nothing comes to mind immediately, but maybe something in some of the other ultimate decks).
It looks like I'll get one of the Spell 1s, so I'll upgrade my Aspect of the Mouse to Aspect of the Frog. I am going to use my Treasure Hunter boon to get a Blessing B as well, and also swap out Blessing of the Elements for a Blessing of Kelizandri.
I also need to replace my Desna's Star that was banished, but I don't really have a better Basic item option, so I'll put it back in my deck.