[PFS, Outpost II] 10-8: What Prestige is Worth (Inactive)

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Since this has been reported so there's no time crunch, I'll give Keos the rest of today to weigh in.

I recommend preparing yourselves mentally to being disappointed, as one side or the other is going to not get their choice.

There are many different ways to handle the fall out in-character, just remember Explore, Report, Cooperate is an in-character tenet your characters have presumptively at the very least given lip service to.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Heh. Its the only reason I haven't nuked him already =)


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I appreciate (and hope your fellow players) appreciate your restraint. :)

Grand Lodge

Male NG Human (Varisian) Fighter (Lore Warden) 7/Unchained Rogue 4 | HP: 121/121 (BE) | AC: 25 (18 Tch, 19 Fl) | CMB: +20 (+24 dirty trick, +21 grapple), CMD: 32 (34 vs. dirty trick, 36 vs. disarm, 33 vs. grapple, 36 vs. sunder) | F: +13, R: +15, W: +10 | Init: +8 | Perc: +20, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Defensive Abilities: danger sense +1, evasion, uncanny dodge | Special Attacks: sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, weapon training (light blades +3) | Active conditions: haste, pain, -1 STR damage.

Mack's just expressing his views in-character in the Gameplay thread.

With four applications of the sin scroll's rune tattoos, as well as the planar penalties, he'll be considerably vulnerable to Leventi's attacks.

He'll go with whatever the group decides.

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

So Rocky is a hard no.
Milo is a hard no.
Fek is a soft yes.
Davina votes with Mack but wants a consensus.
Mack sounds like a soft yes but will go with what the group wants.
Keos has yet to offer his opinion.

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

Is there a knowledge roll that would tell us how to get rid of the massive penalties from the pain debuff?


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There is no way that I can tell, not even erase, that is combat viable. Run away and wait 1 hour. Knowledge (arcana) DC 25 to know that depressing fact. I guess running away and dispel magic on the person who ran away would work to stop it earlier than an hour. Or dispel the symbol and then individually dispel the pain effect. Oh, antimagic shell would work, of course, at least temporarily for those in the shell.

If you guys know of any way to stop a symbol, since leaving its presence or covering your eyes does not, the above DC would tell you.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Symbol's last way too long. Its not going away any time soon.
Our best bet is to try to outdo it.

You can hope the two rogues manage to hit and use their backstabby stuff to lower his AC (though I don't think Fek has this ability, as he's not unchained)

Zarta's a bard, at least level 11, can't she toss up a bard song, as a move action, and still cast something else? That'd be a +3 to hit and damage for all, and make the pain penalty less annoying.

She should be able to toss out a inspire courage (move) and a heroism (standard) on the same round at her level.

You could wait until after she goes, and hope =)

though truth be told... you just rolled horrible. Even without the pain, most of those would have missed =)


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Zarta is a scenario mechanic. She does not function like a PC or monster. Losing the most of her class features is but one price of AUTO-saving and AUTO-hitting with non-reducible damage.

And what Milo said about the horrible rolls is right. I think *maybe* one of the later rolls might have hit without the pain.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Still, according to the card, she has a +3 inspire courage... that would negate most of the penalty!

Just need her to use it =)

Grand Lodge

Male NG Human (Varisian) Fighter (Lore Warden) 7/Unchained Rogue 4 | HP: 121/121 (BE) | AC: 25 (18 Tch, 19 Fl) | CMB: +20 (+24 dirty trick, +21 grapple), CMD: 32 (34 vs. dirty trick, 36 vs. disarm, 33 vs. grapple, 36 vs. sunder) | F: +13, R: +15, W: +10 | Init: +8 | Perc: +20, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Defensive Abilities: danger sense +1, evasion, uncanny dodge | Special Attacks: sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, weapon training (light blades +3) | Active conditions: haste, pain, -1 STR damage.

I think Leventi's AC was already suffering from Davina (and maybe someone else?)
If at least one of Mack's sneak attacks got through his AC should drop by 4 vs Mack and by 2 for everybody else.
Duration is only a round, but maybe Mack will still be alive to try again next round, too.
Here's hoping.

The Exchange

GM Blake wrote:
If you have upon reaching 0 hp effects, enact them now and presumably any effects upon death.

Davina has his scroll of breath of life, but I don't think she'll be able to use it in time. And was it my math that was off? I can double check everything if it was.

Edit: I forgot to adjust my hit points for bear's endurance. If it's still active, then I started at 80 hp. If not, then still currently dead.


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It's still active, so you're at -1 hp.

And I fixed the error that seemed obvious to me: I added flanking and subtracted pain, but it didn't change any of the hits/misses.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Just following the math, the blow of Mack's that hit, also dropped Leventi's AC by 2 (by 4 vs Mack) for the round... so the crjt confirm actually hits AC 31... and also Fek's 2nd claw would have then reached a 29 also. Not to mention 2 bleed.
Unsure what his actual AC is, but it has to be somewhere in there.

None of that helps vs the golem mind you... but might have stopped the devil?

One can only hope he got away, only to collapse from the bleed. =)


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You're ignoring math errors by Fek, because I took Mack's into effect, but you've got bigger fish to fry.

Also, Leventi's AC doesn't drop for the confirmation of the blow that applies the debuff. Subsequent attacks, yes.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Shrug. Admitedly his profile is a little scant.

But going from his small size 'bot me' while flanking... he has a +21 to hit (then +1 for haste, -4 for pain) which comes out to a +18, which is exactly what he used.

Checking the math:
+7 (bab)
+9 (reduced size dex)
+1 (size bonus)
+1 (competence from ioun stone)
+1 weapon focus claws
+1 haste
+2 flanking
-4 pain
= +18 for the claws (+17 for the rest)

His math looks correct =)

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Milo Flamecursed wrote:

Shrug. Admitedly his profile is a little scant.

But going from his small size 'bot me' while flanking... he has a +21 to hit (then +1 for haste, -4 for pain) which comes out to a +18, which is exactly what he used.

Checking the math:
+7 (bab)
+9 (reduced size dex)
+1 (size bonus)
+1 (competence from ioun stone)
+1 weapon focus claws
+1 haste
+2 flanking
-4 pain
= +18 for the claws (+17 for the rest)

His math looks correct =)

Actually, it's not. +3 flanking because of the group fighter trait. Character sheet is correct, but the bot me macros weren't up to date.

The Exchange

Don't worry about keeping me alive right now. You need to take down the golem, which I couldn't help with even at full hp.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Hey, I'm wizard, nothing I have will hit this fellow. =)

So I get to pretend I'm altruistic!

Silver Crusade

Female aasimar Oracle 11 | HP 80 | AC 26; Touch 13; FF 26 | F +8; R +5; W +10 | CMB+8; CMD 21| Speed 30 ft | Init +0 | Perc +1 | Stealth: +0 oracle 11

I have breath of life as a spell.

Grand Lodge

Male NG Human (Varisian) Fighter (Lore Warden) 7/Unchained Rogue 4 | HP: 121/121 (BE) | AC: 25 (18 Tch, 19 Fl) | CMB: +20 (+24 dirty trick, +21 grapple), CMD: 32 (34 vs. dirty trick, 36 vs. disarm, 33 vs. grapple, 36 vs. sunder) | F: +13, R: +15, W: +10 | Init: +8 | Perc: +20, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Defensive Abilities: danger sense +1, evasion, uncanny dodge | Special Attacks: sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, weapon training (light blades +3) | Active conditions: haste, pain, -1 STR damage.

So would the +2 flanking bonus on all of Mack's earlier attack rolls vs Leventi have made any difference?


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No, he would still be alive. So let's focus on finishing the fight you guys are in.

The Exchange

Davina: we might be better off if you just heal Mack. Healing me is a waste, and nobody else seems severely injured.

Silver Crusade

Female aasimar Oracle 11 | HP 80 | AC 26; Touch 13; FF 26 | F +8; R +5; W +10 | CMB+8; CMD 21| Speed 30 ft | Init +0 | Perc +1 | Stealth: +0 oracle 11

ok


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Since it has already been 24 hours, I will bot Rocky in the near future if he doesn't slip in his action before I get back to this table.

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

That is weird. I have been seeing notifications when the discussion tab was updated but not the gameplay tab. I'll take my turn in a few minutes.

The Exchange

That happened to a player in one of my other games recently, too. And it's happened to me a bunch in the past. It is some sort of bug they haven't been able to fix.

The Exchange

I am okay moving through the first portal after just a channel, but will definitely need more healing before I can actually help in combat.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

gah, I always forgot how complicated it is to talk when playing Milo!
then try to say something simple, and end up taking 20 minutes to figure out how to say it.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

So was pondering if I qualified for any of my faction journal card stuff....

Which got me to wondering... does Hell count as a nation other than Absalom? =)

Also, can I forgo the previously done day job check, to instead attempt one of the items on my faction card?

(Is just an int check DC 15) I can take a 10 and not fail it.


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Hell counts as an outer plane, Dis counts as a LE city whete slavery exists, as far as "nation" it would depend on how it's written--some I've seen would count, some wouldn't.

And yes, you can trade out your day job for your FJC task.

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

Same question. "Adventure in a nation other then Absalom."

I will mention that my local GMs have been fine with a plane counting as a nation.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

I will forgo said day job check then!

And Rocky has quoted the extent of the text in question.

Grand Lodge

Male NG Human (Varisian) Fighter (Lore Warden) 7/Unchained Rogue 4 | HP: 121/121 (BE) | AC: 25 (18 Tch, 19 Fl) | CMB: +20 (+24 dirty trick, +21 grapple), CMD: 32 (34 vs. dirty trick, 36 vs. disarm, 33 vs. grapple, 36 vs. sunder) | F: +13, R: +15, W: +10 | Init: +8 | Perc: +20, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Defensive Abilities: danger sense +1, evasion, uncanny dodge | Special Attacks: sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, weapon training (light blades +3) | Active conditions: haste, pain, -1 STR damage.

Day Job roll was a 26.

If it's not too much trouble, GM, can you note on the Chronicle that Mack spent 2PP to recruit Artylget the imp as a Foreign Contact in the City of Dis?


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I can and I will (and notify me if I don't for some ridiculous reason). :)

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

Still need to know if we can check off our "Nation other then Absalom" box.


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Rocky the Oread wrote:
Still need to know if we can check off our "Nation other then Absalom" box.

That looks fine.


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HERE are your Chronicles.

Please let me know if there are any errors.

Grand Lodge

Male Oread Unchained Monk 10 | AC 24 (33)| T 23 (24)| FF 21 (29)| HP: 84/84 (104)| CMD 39+ | Fort +12 (14)| Ref +13 (14)| Will +13 | Init +2 | Perception +24 | Ki 7/11 SF 6/10

Rocky didn't earn 50 gp on his day job. The roll was for a faction goal in place of his day job.

Grand Lodge

N Gnome Wizard 10 / Sorcerer 1

Thank you muchly!

The Exchange

Looks good. Thank you for running!

Grand Lodge

Male NG Human (Varisian) Fighter (Lore Warden) 7/Unchained Rogue 4 | HP: 121/121 (BE) | AC: 25 (18 Tch, 19 Fl) | CMB: +20 (+24 dirty trick, +21 grapple), CMD: 32 (34 vs. dirty trick, 36 vs. disarm, 33 vs. grapple, 36 vs. sunder) | F: +13, R: +15, W: +10 | Init: +8 | Perc: +20, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Defensive Abilities: danger sense +1, evasion, uncanny dodge | Special Attacks: sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, weapon training (light blades +3) | Active conditions: haste, pain, -1 STR damage.

Looks good. Thank you.

Silver Crusade

Female aasimar Oracle 11 | HP 80 | AC 26; Touch 13; FF 26 | F +8; R +5; W +10 | CMB+8; CMD 21| Speed 30 ft | Init +0 | Perc +1 | Stealth: +0 oracle 11

Thanks for running!


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Rocky the Oread wrote:
Rocky didn't earn 50 gp on his day job. The roll was for a faction goal in place of his day job.

Rocky's has been corrected.

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