Invulnerable Rager is fine, Ben. However, you don't have the materials to make a cold iron curve blade. You could probably scrounge up/beg/borrow/steal regular steel from the colonial stores to make a normal masterwork curve blade.Cool. I can deal. I'll make the changes on Biter's character sheet. Do you want me to role-play that scrounging/begging? or can we just say that i'm doing that in my down-time, and have Elorin make his Crafting rolls in the down-tme as well, and you can incorporate it into any narration flavor text?
Oh, definitely IC. The colonial stores of iron and steel are quite limited. Biter's going to have to come up with a pretty good reason why he should be given some for a fancy sword when he already has a perfectly good sword.
Oh, definitely IC. The colonial stores of iron and steel are quite limited. Biter's going to have to come up with a pretty good reason why he should be given some for a fancy sword when he already has a perfectly good sword.
And these stores are back on the ship? The ship that Biter spent days and days searching through? In his searches, would he know what kind of securities are placed on these resources? Just a lock? (I'd ask if there are magical defenses, but how would Biter know?)
Oh, definitely IC. The colonial stores of iron and steel are quite limited. Biter's going to have to come up with a pretty good reason why he should be given some for a fancy sword when he already has a perfectly good sword.And these stores are back on the ship? The ship that Biter spent days and days searching through? In his searches, would he know what kind of securities are placed on these resources? Just a lock? (I'd ask if there are magical defenses, but how would Biter know?)
Locked in the ship's armoury. Had been guarded 24/7 during the voyage but might not be so carefully guarded now that you've arrived.
edited to remove a stupid question, but still curious about the previous question.
Oh, definitely IC. The colonial stores of iron and steel are quite limited. Biter's going to have to come up with a pretty good reason why he should be given some for a fancy sword when he already has a perfectly good sword.And these stores are back on the ship? The ship that Biter spent days and days searching through? In his searches, would he know what kind of securities are placed on these resources? Just a lock? (I'd ask if there are magical defenses, but how would Biter know?)
And uhh just who is going to forge this sword for you...hmmmmm? Your new best friend Pete, right?
Actually, I think Elorin would have to make it since it's an Elven Curve Blade we're talking about, correct? :P
Actually, I think Elorin would have to make it since it's an Elven Curve Blade we're talking about, correct? :P
That was the plan.
NOw, as to who's gonna help me break into the stockpile room on the ship....
:D
Actually, I think Elorin would have to make it since it's an Elven Curve Blade we're talking about, correct? :PThat was the plan.
NOw, as to who's gonna help me break into the stockpile room on the ship....
:D
Ohh Ohh ohh, I cannae let ye do that...fer less than half th' take, he he.
edited to remove a stupid question, but still curious about the previous question.
Sigh. the post monster's been at it again. Those supplies are locked in the armoury of the Lady Iona and the door was guarded 24/7 during the voyage. It might be less (or more guarded now).
Good to know, but Biter is more inclined to attempt official channels first - as it touches on Pathfinder responsibility. (Sorry, Pete.)
Good to know, but Biter is more inclined to attempt official channels first - as it touches on Pathfinder responsibility. (Sorry, Pete.)
Pete could still assist though I would think?
Good to know, but Biter is more inclined to attempt official channels first - as it touches on Pathfinder responsibility. (Sorry, Pete.)Pete could still assist though I would think?
Yeah he could assist as he was contracted by the Pathfinders to assist in any way necessary, (correct Alexis?)
Stephen, what's your favored class, Fighter or Ranger?Ranger....
OK, you took hit points rather than skill points for 1st and 2nd levels then?
Well I'll be taking Knowledge Local: Arcadia for 1 rank to a total of +5
Well I'll be taking Knowledge Local: Arcadia for 1 rank to a total of +5
Updated, but it's +6 not +5: 1 rank + 3 class + 2 int
OK, you took hit points rather than skill points for 1st and 2nd levels then?Stephen, what's your favored class, Fighter or Ranger?Ranger....
No I took the skill points.
11 hp 1st, 9hp 2nd. 4hp 3rd. Looks I might be 1 SP short, used 21, should have 22 total. 9 for 1st 2 levels, +4 for fighter level. Nevermind found the last 1 in diplomacy.
OK, glad I asked then because it looks like you might not have actually spent those skill points. I'm only showing a total of 20 skill ranks for Elorin when he should have 22:
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Gained:
08 Lvl 1: 6 ranger + 2 int + 1 favored
16 Lvl 2: 6 ranger + 2 int + 1 favored
20 Lvl 3: 2 fighter + 2 int
Spent:
02 Acrobatics (2)
03 Cr: Bow (1)
04 Cr: Weapon (1)
05 Diplomacy (1)
06 Handle Animal (1)
08 Intimidate (2)
09 K: Geography (1)
11 K: Nature (2)
13 Perception (2)
14 Ride (1)
17 Stealth (3)
20 Survival (3)
You might consider maxing out Intimidate and Perception since you're our go-to guy for Intimidate and (along with Biter) are the best scout for outdoor areas.
Skills Points 4; -1 for INT; +1 for Human; +1 for Favored Class = 5 total
Acrobatics (2) total: +8
Climb (1) total: +9
Perception (1) total: +9
Stealth (1) total: +8
Updated!
Updated!Skills Points 4; -1 for INT; +1 for Human; +1 for Favored Class = 5 total
Acrobatics (2) total: +8
Climb (1) total: +9
Perception (1) total: +9
Stealth (1) total: +8
Shukriya, obrigado, merci, arigato, and thanks! FWIW - for his feat, Rath took Power Attack.
Yeah, I trim my quotes usually to just the relevant parts. Unless there's a genuine party need for there to be such a reference resource then I really wasn't planning to keep track of feats.
Alright guys, if you can provide the raw materials necessary, Alexis will be happy to start enchanting items. Looking thru the PRD, here's what she is currently capable of crafting:
- Item: gp equivalent + spells from others (Spellcraft DC)
- Bag of Tricks, grey: 1,700gp + Summon Nature's Ally from Gregor (DC 8)
- Boots of Levitation: 3,750gp (DC 13)
- Boots of Striding & Springing: 2,750gp + Longstrider from Gregor (DC 13)
- Candle of Truth: 1,250gp + Zone of Truth from Abbas (DC 8)
- Cloak of Displacement, minor: 12,000gp (DC 13)
- Cloak of Elvenkind: 1,250gp (DC 13)
- Dust of Tracelessness: 125gp + Pass without Trace from Gregor (DC 8)
- Eversmoking Bottle: 2,700gp (DC 13)
- Eyes of the Eagle: 1,250gp + clairaudience from Falcon (DC 8)
- Gloves of Arrow Snaring: 2,000gp (DC 8)
- Goggles of Minute Seeing: 1,250gp + Trueseeing from Falcon? (DC 8 or 13)
- Goggles of the Night: 6,000gp (DC 13)
- Horn of Fog: 1,000gp + Obscuring Mist from Gregor/Abbas (DC 8)
- Horseshoes of Speed: 1,500gp + Haste from Brycen? (DC 8 or 13)
- Horseshoes of a Zephyr: 3,000gp (DC 13)
- Rope of Climbing: 1,500gp (DC 13)
- Stone of Alarm: 1,350gp (DC 13)
- Ungent of Timelessness: 75gp + Gentle Repose from Abbas (DC 8)
- Universal Solvent: 25gp (DC 13)
At Eric's suggestion, I've duplicated this list on the website. It can be accessed from the link at the bottom of The Library until such time as Nazard finds a better place for it...
https://sites.google.com/site/arcadiariseofthefallen/the-story/library/alex is-arcane-emporium
Alexis would be happy to help Abbas (and anyone else) further their studies in matters of the arcane. (Used to tutor others back at the academy, you know.)
I've updated Abbas' selection. +2 ranks to heal puts him at 4 ranks total, but I think Nazard has a house rule allowing us to exceed our HD by 1 rank if we want.
YAY! I get my APG tomorrow ^^ so happy xD
Cool, congrats! :)
BTW, I've updated the skill and language matrices with the change that Justin mentioned in the PbP thread: -1 Stealth, +1 Linguistics: Aquan (which Alexis will be teaching him).
Alright guys, if you can provide the raw materials necessary, Alexis will be happy to start enchanting items. Looking thru the PRD, here's what she is currently capable of crafting:
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- Item: gp equivalent + spells from others (Spellcraft DC)
- Bag of Tricks, grey: 1,700gp + Summon Nature's Ally from Gregor (DC 8)
- Boots of Levitation: 3,750gp (DC 13)
- Boots of Striding & Springing: 2,750gp + Longstrider from Gregor (DC 13)
- Candle of Truth: 1,250gp + Zone of Truth from Abbas (DC 8)
- Cloak of Displacement, minor: 12,000gp (DC 13)
- Cloak of Elvenkind: 1,250gp (DC 13)
- Dust of Tracelessness: 125gp + Pass without Trace from Gregor (DC 8)
- Eversmoking Bottle: 2,700gp (DC 13)
- Eyes of the Eagle: 1,250gp + clairaudience from Falcon (DC 8)
- Gloves of Arrow Snaring: 2,000gp (DC 8)
- Goggles of Minute Seeing: 1,250gp + Trueseeing from Falcon? (DC 8 or 13)
- Goggles of the
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though.
OK, glad I asked then because it looks like you might not have actually spent those skill points. I'm only showing a total of 20 skill ranks for Elorin when he should have 22:
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Gained:
08 Lvl 1: 6 ranger + 2 int + 1 favored
16 Lvl 2: 6 ranger + 2 int + 1 favored
20 Lvl 3: 2 fighter + 2 intSpent:
02 Acrobatics (2)
03 Cr: Bow (1)
04 Cr: Weapon (1)
05 Diplomacy (1)
06 Handle Animal (1)
08 Intimidate (2)
09 K: Geography (1)
11 K: Nature (2)
13 Perception (2) =3 pts+class skill 3+ 2 elf -1 Wisdom =7
14 Ride (1)
17 Stealth (3)
20 Survival (3)You might consider maxing out Intimidate and Perception since you're our go-to guy for Intimidate and (along with Biter) are the best scout for outdoor areas.
Already spent 3 on perception so it is maxed out, but I over counted 1 in diplomacy so I was 1 short. Add 1 more into intimidate for +7.
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though.
Not sure about the minimum level to enchant, but I can cover the STR, DEX, CON, and WIS boost spells.
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though.Not sure about the minimum level to enchant, but I can cover the STR, DEX, CON, and WIS boost spells.
Minimum level to enchant is 3, since that's when you get the feat. I am totally unconvinced by all the arguments that the item caster level is the level you need to be to enchant it. 17th-level wizards have better things to do with their time than enchant 1000gp Pearls of Power 1. The only time it matters is if caster level is in the pre-requisites like magical weapons and armour, and even then, it can be ignored by increasing the spellcraft DC by 5.
Scrolls, potions, and wands are a different story. You want a 3rd level mage armour scroll, you have to be third level to make it.
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though.Not sure about the minimum level to enchant, but I can cover the STR, DEX, CON, and WIS boost spells.Minimum level to enchant is 3, since that's when you get the feat. I am totally unconvinced by all the arguments that the item caster level is the level you need to be to enchant it. 17th-level wizards have better things to do with their time than enchant 1000gp Pearls of Power 1. The only time it matters is if caster level is in the pre-requisites like magical weapons and armour, and even then, it can be ignored by increasing the spellcraft DC by 5.
Scrolls, potions, and wands are a different story. You want a 3rd level mage armour scroll, you have to be third level to make it.
From reading the core rules that was my take on items as well. I know Elorin will be looking for Dex item as soon as he can, but not really sure what the material requirements are for them to really "find" them in an area such as this.
You will give us direction as we gain access to these types of resources?
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though.Not sure about the minimum level to enchant, but I can cover the STR, DEX, CON, and WIS boost spells.Minimum level to enchant is 3, since that's when you get the feat. I am totally unconvinced by all the arguments that the item caster level is the level you need to be to enchant it. 17th-level wizards have better things to do with their time than enchant 1000gp Pearls of Power 1. The only time it matters is if caster level is in the pre-requisites like magical weapons and armour, and even then, it can be ignored by increasing the spellcraft DC by 5.
Scrolls, potions, and wands are a different story. You want a 3rd level mage armour scroll, you have to be third level to make it.
From reading the core rules that was my take on items as well. I know Elorin will be looking for Dex item as soon as he can, but not really sure what the material requirements are for them to really "find" them in an area such as this.
You will give us direction as we gain access to these types of resources?
Given the setting, crafting these sorts of items opens up the possibility of side quests even more than in a standard style of game.
Let me know what you want to craft, and we can work around resource types.Although for a belt of dexterity, you need a belt, usually made of leather...in that instance, not exactly a ground-breaking material component. I think you have some spare beargle skins lying around.
Already spent 3 on perception so it is maxed out, but I over counted 1 in diplomacy so I was 1 short. Add 1 more into intimidate for +7.
OK cool, I've made the update.
What about stat buff's? Abbas should have access to some of the spells already to assist, not sure of the minumum level to enchant though
Lemme have another look thru the PRD. When I made that list I noted everything that had "CL 3" listed. If it was typed differently for certain items, there's chance I'd have missed it...
EDIT: OK, I just looked and the various belts are CL 8. As for the "Pearl of Power", the requirement that you be capable of casting that level of spell is kind of silly since they'd already be capable of casting lower level spells. To me it would make more sense if you can cast the spell of that level and your caster level = (level×2)-1.
Lemme have another look thru the PRD. When I made that list I noted everything that had "CL 3" listed. If it was typed differently for certain items, there's chance I'd have missed it...
As far as that goes, if the item can not be made, I can start cranking out potions of those particular spells.
I am totally unconvinced by all the arguments that the item caster level is the level you need to be to enchant it. 17th-level wizards have better things to do with their time than enchant 1000gp Pearls of Power 1. The only time it matters is if caster level is in the pre-requisites like magical weapons and armour, and even then, it can be ignored by increasing the spellcraft DC by 5.
Nazard any suggestions on minimum casting levels for such "scalable" items?
After looking at item costs and comparing them against Wealth by Level, the idea I had was...
Pearls of Power: Min CL = (2 × Spell Level) - 1
Ability Score: Min CL = Bonus × 2
BTW, since you mention those beargle pelt, I could see those being useful for boots or belts. A couple folks have expressed an interest in Boots of Striding and Springing, and I would be interested in Boots of Levitation. Also, it would be handy to outfit our scouts with Cloaks of Elvenkind.
I am totally unconvinced by all the arguments that the item caster level is the level you need to be to enchant it. 17th-level wizards have better things to do with their time than enchant 1000gp Pearls of Power 1. The only time it matters is if caster level is in the pre-requisites like magical weapons and armour, and even then, it can be ignored by increasing the spellcraft DC by 5.Nazard any suggestions on minimum casting levels for such "scalable" items?
After looking at item costs and comparing them against Wealth by Level, the idea I had was...
Pearls of Power: Min CL = (2 × Spell Level) - 1
Ability Score: Min CL = Bonus × 2BTW, since you mention those beargle pelt, I could see those being useful for boots or belts. A couple folks have expressed an interest in Boots of Striding and Springing, and I would be interested in Boots of Levitation. Also, it would be handy to outfit our scouts with Cloaks of Elvenkind.
If you really want a scalable caster level requirement, then that's fine, but I'm content with 3rd level wizards making PoPs 1 and 2. Obviously, you would have to be able to cast the spell level in question.
If you really want a scalable caster level requirement, then that's fine, but I'm content with 3rd level wizards making PoPs 1 and 2. Obviously, you would have to be able to cast the spell level in question.
For PoPs, the formula I used equals the levels at which clerics and wizards get to cast such spell levels so it's a moot point there.
What should we use for the minimum caster level required for other items like the belts, etc? 3rd since that's what level the buff spells are?
If you really want a scalable caster level requirement, then that's fine, but I'm content with 3rd level wizards making PoPs 1 and 2. Obviously, you would have to be able to cast the spell level in question.For PoPs, the formula I used equals the levels at which clerics and wizards get to cast such spell levels so it's a moot point there.
What should we use for the minimum caster level required for other items like the belts, etc? 3rd since that's what level the buff spells are?
Sounds fine to me.
Alrighty, well I guess I'm gonna have to add some more items to The Emporium! O_O
Say, would that mean that Alexis could work on a Circlet of Persuassion already since she's high enough in level to cast the requisite spell? :-o
I'd like to request a Periapt of Drunken Debauchery and the Circlet of Flames.
Oof! Alright, I've updated the Google Site to include a listing of all the items from the PRD that Alexis is willing and capable of crafting based on the guidelines that Nazard laid out above:
Note that if there is no one in the fleet capable or willing to cast required spells then that increases the crafting DC by +5 for each missing spell. Also, I've omitted items that she would have a moral or ethical problem with casting. Yes, that means no elixirs of love (or necromantic items). :P
Nazard: Any items from the Magic Item Compendium allowed? Also, what about creating a Feather Duster of Spotless Perfection for Burnsten using the same requirements as for "hand of the mage" but substituting prestidigitation for mage hand?
Oof! Alright, I've updated the Google Site to include a listing of all the items from the PRD that Alexis is willing and capable of crafting based on the guidelines that Nazard laid out above:
Note that if there is no one in the fleet capable or willing to cast required spells then that increases the crafting DC by +5 for each missing spell. Also, I've omitted items that she would have a moral or ethical problem with casting. Yes, that means no elixirs of love (or necromantic items). :P
Nazard: Any items from the Magic Item Compendium allowed? Also, what about creating a Feather Duster of Spotless Perfection for Burnsten using the same requirements as for "hand of the mage" but substituting prestidigitation for mage hand?
Some items, on a case by case basis.
A Feather Duster of Spotless Perfection is fine for cleaning himself off afterwards, although it doesn't prevent dirtiness. There is a 2nd level abjuration spell called Finery & Freshness which does actively prevent all mundane soiling of clothes, as well as minor tears and disarray to one's appearance.
pulls up to the clown-in-a-box…
"um, yah, I'd like the Belt of Strength combo with the +1 Keen enhancement meal. And can I get fries and a shake with that?"
Seriously, though, thanks for the work (again) Alexis... it'll prolly be a while before Biter has the financial means to partake of any of your... um.. goods.
Wait, that came out wrong.
Heh, most amusing. Hey speaking of partaking...
Nazard mentioned in another game we're in that he's going to be AFK for about a week or so while he and his wife are moving out of their apartment into a new house. Since we can't really go adventuring without him, I was thinking that 'tonight' (in game time) would be a perfect opportunity for everyone to have a feast together aboard the Rose of Cassomir.
The last time our characters actually got to sit down and enjoy/roleplay a real meal together was back at the Anchor's Away (Eric & Frank: see the 1st page of the game thread). Given all that we've been thru and our recent accomplishments, I was thinking it might be fun to do so again.
Whatcha think about Alexis arranging a dinner party for the 8 of us in the conference room?
Heh, most amusing. Hey speaking of partaking...
Nazard mentioned in another game we're in that he's going to be AFK for about a week or so while he and his wife are moving out of their apartment into a new house. Since we can't really go adventuring without him, I was thinking that 'tonight' (in game time) would be a perfect opportunity for everyone to have a feast together aboard the Rose of Cassomir.
The last time our characters actually got to sit down and enjoy/roleplay a real meal together was back at the Anchor's Away (Eric & Frank: see the 1st page of the game thread). Given all that we've been thru and our recent accomplishments, I was thinking it might be fun to do so again.
Whatcha think about Alexis arranging a dinner party for the 8 of us in the conference room?
What?? Does that mean I have to take a *gulp* bath??
You bastards really are going to force Alexis to waste resources crafting presti-soap-on-a-rope, aren't you? >.>
Nazard,
Gregor, can't really say no to something that is PFS legal, so go ahead and research away.
I've read all the back log (over 240 posts!!), so if you folks could start wrapping up your "night off", we'll get things back on track soon, just in time for me to go away to camp for a whole week where I will be able to make posts on my phone, but won't have access to any maps. Fortunately, I don't think you have any map-needing encounters for a little while. We're getting to a more sandboxy stage of the game. There are 180 degrees of directions to explore on land, and different things to experience depending on what direction you take.
I saw in AoW that you were back so I found a plausible reason for Alexis to head to bed to start winding things down. The sandbox stage sounds pretty cool, it will be nice once we've build a lodge and some other resources so that we have a "home base" from which to operate. I'm looking forward to it! :)
I saw in AoW that you were back so I found a plausible reason for Alexis to head to bed to start winding things down. The sandbox stage sounds pretty cool, it will be nice once we've build a lodge and some other resources so that we have a "home base" from which to operate. I'm looking forward to it! :)
This is the part where the game starts to resemble Kingmaker all too much, although in my defense, this stuff was all written and planned out long before I'd even heard of Kingmaker.
Gregor, can't really say no to something that is PFS legal, so go ahead and research away.
Cool. In terms of story, it's fairly easy to say Gregor is looking into a new path, but is there anything mechanically you need me do to determine progress toward figuring out this ritual?