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Now I understand that the Andoran faction was able to a) recruit the most pathfinder player characters, and accumulate the most prestige points.
I suppose over the last three years of the “silent war” by the Cheliax Andoran, Taldoran Qadiran, and Osirion factions, Andoran has been declared the winner.
What does this mean for the Andoran faction? Has control of Absalom shifted in Andoran’s favor? What does this mean for the Andoran faction PCs? What kind of rewards might there be?
I have heard a rumor that they are no longer measuring the amount of prestige accumulated, but they are measuring faction’s success another way. How are they planning to do this?
Thanks
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They will measure success by:
Actual PP Earned / Max PP Available
This helps to account for different sizes in faction member totals.
/I love watching Andorans fail at my table.
//They are actually the 2nd lowest PA earners at my tables. Taldans are the lowest.
///Even better when Andoran blood is spilt.
///Can't tell you how much I hate goody-two-shoes factions.
////Slashies
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//They are actually the 2nd lowest PA earners at my tables. Taldans are the lowest.
Taldans are bad at PA gains in the games I play in too. If they ever allowed evil characters I think we would see more people playing Cheliax. Or if they allowed assassins/anti-paladins/hellknights one alignment step.
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Thank you all for your responses.
Joseph Caubo, now I know some of this is in toungue and cheek, and I do like the ///shalshies answer, but as a GM aren’t you supposed to try and put your personal preferences aside and try to be a fair arbitrator and story teller?
For example I myself have a violent dislike for guns in my “fantasy settting”. I would flat out refuse to allow them in a home game. If a player insisted, I would let him know that he is putting something in the game the GM doesn’t like, and his character might a) be beggered by the cost of guns and ammunition, and b) suffer an “accidental” death at the claws and teeth of some monster, random or in an encounter. It would only be a matter of time till the odds turned against his character.
But I realize with organized play, I don’t get to say what is in and out, and If I do have a player at my table who is running a gunslinger, I will have to mask my distaste, and politely ask to see a printout of the rules for gunslingers, go over them, and ask the player about his character. I would then try to make sure everyone at the table is having a good time.
Chris Kenney, and Kortz, thank you. I had forgotten about the new symbol and the lamp.
Mark Moreland, thank you for taking the time to answer my query and letting me know about the andoran’s faction leader’s promotion. It will be interesting to see what the in game political changes though subtle will be.
I do realize that initially in year 0 the idea was to have the factions compete for gaining “influence” over Absalom, and that by year 2, through the faction missions the competition was de emphasized, I am curious to see what the Andoran faction will get for recruiting the most “operatives” ie players who wanted to be in the Andoran faction, and by extension accumulating the most prestige.
I am curious to see what tangible in game rewards the Andoran faction players might get, like say a +2 to diplomacy and Knowledge local checks while in Absalom to reflect the political winds are blowing Andoran’s way (diplomacy) and the vast size of the network Andoran has successfully built up (knowledge local). Perhaps there will be nothing like that.
I assume all will be revealed or at least some things at Gen Con.
Thank you
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Lazer X i had not realized the similarities between Andoran and "American". Perhaps you don't notice what is right under your nose. If I extend such an analogy, does Taldor represent feudal europe?
My Knowledge: geography has only one or two ranks in it, (like most Americans) but I seem to remember isn’t there is a small European country called Andorra, which is in the Pyrenees between France and Spain?
Now my history is dimly remembered at best, but didn't the British Empire outlaw slavery and the slave trade, well before the Americans did?
In the small game I am running at my local game store (Toy City) in Keene New Hampshire, I have found, when people are joining the game who are new to PFS, but not the Pathfinder game, and so far, they have been regulars at the game store, there has been some encouragement by some of the players to play Andoran. My group size ranges from 3 to 6, and I have two andorans, a Taldor player, and Osirion player, Qadiran player, and a Cheliaxian player.
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Lazer X i had not realized the similarities between Andoran and "American". Perhaps you don't notice what is right under your nose. If I extend such an analogy, does Taldor represent feudal europe?
My Knowledge: geography has only one or two ranks in it, (like most Americans) but I seem to remember isn’t there is a small European country called Andorra, which is in the Pyrenees between France and Spain?
Now my history is dimly remembered at best, but didn't the British Empire outlaw slavery and the slave trade, well before the Americans did?
In the small game I am running at my local game store (Toy City) in Keene New Hampshire, I have found, when people are joining the game who are new to PFS, but not the Pathfinder game, and so far, they have been regulars at the game store, there has been some encouragement by some of the players to play Andoran. My group size ranges from 3 to 6, and I have two andorans, a Taldor player, and Osirion player, Qadiran player, and a Cheliaxian player.
A lot of first impressions see Andoran as close to American though when you dig it isn't quite an obvious connection. I'm guilty of this.
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Lazer X i had not realized the similarities between Andoran and "American". Perhaps you don't notice what is right under your nose. If I extend such an analogy, does Taldor represent feudal europe?
My Knowledge: geography has only one or two ranks in it, (like most Americans) but I seem to remember isn’t there is a small European country called Andorra, which is in the Pyrenees between France and Spain?
Now my history is dimly remembered at best, but didn't the British Empire outlaw slavery and the slave trade, well before the Americans did?
In the small game I am running at my local game store (Toy City) in Keene New Hampshire, I have found, when people are joining the game who are new to PFS, but not the Pathfinder game, and so far, they have been regulars at the game store, there has been some encouragement by some of the players to play Andoran. My group size ranges from 3 to 6, and I have two andorans, a Taldor player, and Osirion player, Qadiran player, and a Cheliaxian player.
He said they think of Andoran as America not that it made any historical sense they do so.
My society is at 20+ players now and oddly enough its all Taldan and Qadirans. Many back handed high fives on Sundays!
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People play Andorans not because they're "goody two shoes" but to them Andoran equals "American". But as to what you get.... it's bragging rights.They will measure success by:
Actual PP Earned / Max PP Available
This helps to account for different sizes in faction member totals.
/I love watching Andorans fail at my table.
//They are actually the 2nd lowest PA earners at my tables. Taldans are the lowest.
///Even better when Andoran blood is spilt.
///Can't tell you how much I hate goody-two-shoes factions.
////Slashies
Hmm... my first character is Andoran simply because of their hatred for slaves. My character is an ex slave and as such... voila he's Andoran.
Lets not pigeonhole anyone here eh?
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I think the "America" analogy has more to do with Andoran's form of government than their outlawing of slavery.
And the Eagle Knight's uniforms have an American Revolution / Continental Army look to them. Check out this crossing of the Potomac-inspired piece of artwork.
Director of Brand Strategy
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What kind of rewards might there be? ... How are they planning to do this?Mark Moreland is going to give a big hug to every player of an Andoran character he meets at GenCon, possible beyond.
Nope! There's enough exposure to germs at GenCon as it is. No hugs from me will make it even more likely I get sick while there.
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Nope! There's enough exposure to germs at GenCon as it is. No hugs from me will make it even more likely I get sick while there.What kind of rewards might there be? ... How are they planning to do this?Mark Moreland is going to give a big hug to every player of an Andoran character he meets at GenCon, possible beyond.
I heard Mark (or possibly a Paizo intern) will give Andoran players hugs for $5 at the Paizo booth, and if you pre-order one before July 31 you can get the 10% Paizo Anniversary discount applied.
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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Taldor is a tougher call, I'd say it's more likely to represent Rome in it's decline or possibly Byzantium.Lazer X i had not realized the similarities between Andoran and "American". Perhaps you don't notice what is right under your nose. If I extend such an analogy, does Taldor represent feudal europe?
I look at Taldor = Byzantium and Cheliax = Rome/Italy myself.
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Taldor is a tougher call, I'd say it's more likely to represent Rome in it's decline or possibly Byzantium.Lazer X i had not realized the similarities between Andoran and "American". Perhaps you don't notice what is right under your nose. If I extend such an analogy, does Taldor represent feudal europe?
16th century France
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Yes, that means that the church of Asmodaeus could draw paralleles to the Catholic Church. Let's not go there.It's not like Cheliax is involved in some kind of Spanish Inquisition...[wait for it]
Sir... are you implying that each faction has an analogous Monty Python skit?
And why is that Andoran running a chesse shop with only frustrated customers? And the Quadirian trying to sell a dead parrot?...
Why sir! I would NEVER push a dead parrot on an unsuspecting customer! Just because SOME of us are money grubbing people with turbans and scimitars doesn't mean we're all unscrupulous dead songbird merchants! Habib was just trying to make a silver for dinner!
Of course if someone WANTED a dead parrot I'd be more than happy to get them one! Wouldn't ask why though...probably for some weird Osiron ritual or something. Mummy bird...creeeeeepy!
Hmm...are Andorans as heightest as my Qadiran bretheren?
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I didn't see this mentioned, but the PaizoCon special miniature this year was the head of the Andoran faction, in large part as a "reward" for the faction's victories in the last couple of years of the campaign.
This isn't officially a prize for winning the most prestige, and we won't necessarily do this every year, but I'd like to think it's a tradition we will continue for as long as we can.
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I didn't see this mentioned, but the PaizoCon special miniature this year was the head of the Andoran faction, in large part as a "reward" for the faction's victories in the last couple of years of the campaign.
This isn't officially a prize for winning the most prestige, and we won't necessarily do this every year, but I'd like to think it's a tradition we will continue for as long as we can.
So I guess the Shadowlodge actually won in 2010!
(Did anyone else find a tiny eavesdropping device in the 2010 PaizoCOn special miniature?)