The Drow

Game Master Tanis Newlun

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Zalazra Qlinzra wrote:
Its really down to the fact the Female Drow that have the skill, will and ability to rule tend to this is a culture where sister kills sister. Males tend to be fodder for the fights, more than rulers. They just dont have the down right evil streak Drow lady's do.

While i'm not sure i'll be building anything yet, as i'm super bogged down by my other projects on the boards, I wanted to share some lore about how Pathfinder perceives Drow females.

Second Darkness 3, Armageddon Echo p.55:

The greatest damage
was inflicted early in their migration below, with males
suffering the greatest losses. As a result, women came
to control more and more of drow social life, and it was
they who came to dominate the great nobles houses and
bargained away their families’ services to the princes of
the Abyss.
In the years that followed, the gender split continued,
such that today an individual male drow may be prized
for his intelligence, battle prowess, or comeliness, but is
still considered secondary to females in social class. Drow
women are decision-makers and rulers within the family
and society at large. They are treated with respect, and
drow males are expected to carry out orders for the good
of the family.

In their natural state, Drow Males and Females probably had the same kind of relationship that Elven Males and Females had. The real divide happened when male numbers were diminished by the wars while getting accustomed to the under-dark. I think the text implies here that women are trained from an early age to be superior in every way. Also, women may be strengthened magically through certain pacts made with evil deities.


She is using the D&D drow lore. Males don't have a lot of value. Even if they are more powerful than a female they are still 2nd class citizens in many occasions. I am not saying I agree, but I understand.

With that aside I am getting all of these chances to finally play an evil character, and I am brain dead.

Liberty's Edge

As she are you referring to me? The great Tanis Half-Elven, from who I was named was no female, I pity you, for not recognizing such an agonizingly awesome fact.

:)
It's all good Swagger, I'm definitely a male though.

Also, if you read my first post, you might have come to the conclusion that is D&D lore, which is correct.


Oops, lol. Darn elves. I was looking at the avatars for the drow, and I was about to choose one, that I thought was male, but it is listed as a female.

Since you are here are only using PF deities or D&D deities also. I am trying to choose a deity for my inquisitor, and I can't seem to settle on one. I am sure I will eventually though.


Did the male Speck!, it will put the lotion on its skin again.


Fair enough Tanis... I cant disagree; Changing as we speak/type/read lol... The crunch is basiclly done too, need to pick spells and now get some better items, with my 10,000 more gp lol. I built my character around 5000gp worth of stuff lol.. No worries though, 10,000 more for magics an stuff, can't complain lol

Can't wait!


Background story

[spoiler=drow inquisitor(infiltrator)]
Yasirin is about 5'5 140 pounds with black skin and white hair. He was not born to anyone of particular importance, which allowed him to go unnoticed for most of his child hood. The other side of this was that the house decided to just train him to be a common guard when he came of age. Yasirin did not protest, most likely because he could not protest, being a male drow. Never liking the fact that he was being held back just because he was a male, he decided to try to think of a way to change the how Drow society worked.

Somehow his plan came to the ears of the house Matron. While thinking the idea was amusing, thinking the idea of a male being the equal of a female, she figured he had to be made into an example, along with those who sided with him. To make things entertaining she threw him, and those who agreed with him into a pit with several dangerous monsters, armed with only short swords. Those who survived, would be deemed worthy of a second chance. To try to ensure that nobody made it out alive these drow were stripped of their SR. Yasirin however, seeing as how he was able to get people to listen to him impressed Titivilus(Infernal Duke of lies, propaganda, and rhetoric) who appeared to him, agreeing to give Yasirin the power he needed to help him survive the pit, but Yasirin would have to push the ideas of Titivilus when ever he had a chance, within reason of course. Seeing death as the likely alternate Yasirin agreed, and was able to survive the Pit.

This created quiet a stir, and the Matron Mother not wanting anything close to a martyr on her hands decided to reward him by placing him in her army, and send him out on personal missions in the name of the house. In reality of course she figured that if he succeeded she was benefiting, and if he died that was to her benefit also, and there would be no visible blood on her hand.

Personality:
Yasirin while being somewhat aloof is quiet good at getting people to follow him. He is rude at times, not on purpose but his words are sometimes chosen badly. He still tries to show people that males and females are equal, but in much less obvious manners. He knows might not survive whatever punishment is comes next.

Party functions:
Face, knowledge (religion:dungeoneering), perception etc

Liberty's Edge

Hey guys, I'm going to be gone for about a week, sorry, just keep posting and I'll answer questions in a week or so..

:( wish I could stay...


About Zalazra Qlinzra

Zalazra Qlinzra A Drow female noble:
Born to Nobility the youngest of 3 sisters she was only given life so that she could be payment to the Temple of Abraxas. The price for a long forgotten pact.

The house she was from did well, but she was given unto a Demon and as such her life has been devotion and religion. Once long ago one of her sisters came looking for help, Zalazra told her what she told all looking, pay the price and it will come, and what a price.

Zalazra Qlinzra is a leader, its in her very nature, as a Drow noble.
Others of her rank do not so much fear her power more who she represents. Abraxas is a Demon of unknown powers and to cross him is always seen as a risky act. Zalazra has gone to extraordinary lengths to show her devotion to Zalazra who she sees as her true Farther. Donning a suit of living Demon flesh, This flesh grows into its host over time becoming one with it and forming a gestalt Demon. In other words she has chosen to become in time a Demon.

So when you see her, there is some thing wrong with Zalazra, Standing some 6'4" tall its hard to miss her shape but her flesh seems some what altered. Drow Nobles are known to have odd tastes in clothing but this is all together more disturbing, What at 1st glance whats looks to be some kind of ornate armor is in fact some kind of life form, Parts seem to blend into Zalazra's head, body and limes, they move and twitch. Parts sniff the air, and eyes look out. Some times this odd living second skin talks and she talks back in a fowl Demonic language.

How ever Zalazra acts campus mentus and normal in all other ways. Sharp mind, condescending voice to slaves, males and lesser Nobles, and always with that Drow noble air of Complete and utter ruthlessness.

A Cleric of Abraxas she seems, tactful and Evil in all ways. She Prizes Knowledge above all things, she is often heard to say, "Knowledge is Power, the more you know the more you rule" wile her Armor says darker things.

Party Roll,
Noble to keep others away,
Cleric
Thinker and political strategist.


bump


Bummer... I hope this takes off for real.. But this is the 3rd game I've tried to join and this happen before the first gameplay post...


Mr. Swagger wrote:

She is using the D&D drow lore. Males don't have a lot of value. Even if they are more powerful than a female they are still 2nd class citizens in many occasions. I am not saying I agree, but I understand.

With that aside I am getting all of these chances to finally play an evil character, and I am brain dead.

I understand that, but there are still males born into a noble drow family, sure they are lower than basically all the females (unless heritage and social class overrules this in a few cases), but they are still of a noble bloodline and there are feats for them too. (I may remember wrongly but I recall a lot of males from noble houses described in books and 3.0/3.5 edition) If females pick a mate to get proper heirs I am pretty sure they pick from among nobleblood drow males because they have the same strong/pure magic as their female counterpart, one must understand that I asked because the noble bloodline can be found in both males and females which don't have to actually have any noble titles, this is supposed to show "blue blood/racial breeding results" mainly, although there can also be noble elves (title) who have weak blood, or commoners with strong (blood) noble tie if their house had a great past.

Anyway, just reading through Advanced Races Guide about the drow and seems as my initial thoughts were true, basically it is about feats, and how many one uses what decides if the actual slumbering powers make one a noble-blooded and there is no restriction to gender (which would look weird, considering what would happen if there would be a pair of male/female twins, and would otherwise end up with one of them being a noble and other not with difference in powers just because gender)

sorry if my comments didn't come clearly through, English isn't my native language and I usually post late night or early morning


Hopefully she does not come back until the ARG stuff is posted. My build is partly figured out, but it is subject to change if the ARG material is posted online.


Mr. Swagger wrote:
Hopefully she does not come back until the ARG stuff is posted. My build is partly figured out, but it is subject to change if the ARG material is posted online.

This must be one of those absolute rare occasions, when a player wishes the GM not to be back XD


right right


Mr Swgger if it is posted could you put up the link, thanks.


Zalazra. I want to work up some kind of bodyguard for your character. A male obviously that is probably not too smart and is essentially your slave. I was originally thinking Phalanx Fighter but they really don't start helping allies until level 9. Any ideas on something else? I'm looking right now. Also, would you even want someone like that protecting you.


I have interest in creating a quickling rogue. (I love the Drizzt books too, btw). Would you allow it? And if so, how many RP would you allow? It would take an insane amount to get the speed up to 120'-- so maybe an adolescent that isn't quite "up to speed" yet? Gains more speed later, perhaps?


@ Shizzle69 Sounds very cool, As long as the GM agrees I'm all for it. As a Noble I have two temple salves (MPCs none combat or skills) I can drop one and have you as a bodyguard happily, it would be the way for s Drow Female.

Grand Lodge

Throwing a feeler out there for a concept: Half-Fiend Deep Goblin

HIT PT ROLLS:
Fighter: 10 + 4 = 14
Rogue: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Fighter: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8
Rogue: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10
Rogue: [dice]1d8 + 4[/dice
Favored Class Bonus Rogue: +3

TOTAL HP: 53


Here is my alias for the bodyguard. I guess just taking bodyguard and in harms way will do the trick pretty nicely. That opens lots of options. Right now I'm thinking Tower Shield specialist, or perhaps and oracle of battle. I used a random name generator and my name is oracle related so who knows maybe it was a sign.


oracle of battle would be fun if we have the same Demon over lord.


Changed my avatar to account for my newfound charisma. also HP rolls.

2:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
3:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 1 = 8
4:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
5:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9

I think you said we could reroll 1's

reroll:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6
Reroll:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4


So i just thought to look at archetypes and was like, wait a tick whats the black blood oracle i thought i heard that was good. Well it is good. Super good. You will be channeling negative and spontaneously casting inflict and healing me and I'll be casting cure spells to heal everyone else. Were going to be a ball of destruction at the center of battle with me protecting you from 3 hits per rounds and also dishing out some hurt with reach weapons. Good times! Thats just the crunch fun too I havent even wrapped my head around the whole of the RP aspect just the basics. I figure my black blood is a side effect of the same devotion you went through with Abraxas. You became weakened but blessed with awesome magical power and I was blessed with awesome physical power.


So, has our DM found his way back yet??? I hope this game isn't just falling into the Underdark Abyss... That would be horrible...


If not Ill GM and make my PC an NPC, but he did say he would be back in a week. so a few more days will be ok.

Liberty's Edge

joriandrake wrote:
Mr. Swagger wrote:

She is using the D&D drow lore. Males don't have a lot of value. Even if they are more powerful than a female they are still 2nd class citizens in many occasions. I am not saying I agree, but I understand.

With that aside I am getting all of these chances to finally play an evil character, and I am brain dead.

I understand that, but there are still males born into a noble drow family, sure they are lower than basically all the females (unless heritage and social class overrules this in a few cases), but they are still of a noble bloodline and there are feats for them too. (I may remember wrongly but I recall a lot of males from noble houses described in books and 3.0/3.5 edition) If females pick a mate to get proper heirs I am pretty sure they pick from among nobleblood drow males because they have the same strong/pure magic as their female counterpart, one must understand that I asked because the noble bloodline can be found in both males and females which don't have to actually have any noble titles, this is supposed to show "blue blood/racial breeding results" mainly, although there can also be noble elves (title) who have weak blood, or commoners with strong (blood) noble tie if their house had a great past.

Anyway, just reading through Advanced Races Guide about the drow and seems as my initial thoughts were true, basically it is about feats, and how many one uses what decides if the actual slumbering powers make one a noble-blooded and there is no restriction to gender (which would look weird, considering what would happen if there would be a pair of male/female twins, and would otherwise end up with one of them being a noble and other not with difference in powers just because gender)

sorry if my comments didn't come clearly through, English isn't my native language and I usually post late night or early morning

I understand what you are saying, that is my GM ruling though.

Liberty's Edge

Apocalypso wrote:
I have interest in creating a quickling rogue. (I love the Drizzt books too, btw). Would you allow it? And if so, how many RP would you allow? It would take an insane amount to get the speed up to 120'-- so maybe an adolescent that isn't quite "up to speed" yet? Gains more speed later, perhaps?

I don't care much for the RP junk, I don't have access to quickling information as a PC race, but if you get me that information, I will probably allow you.

Go Tephanis.


The GM is back. :)
What is the deadline?

Lantern Lodge

Yes! Because I am interested in this, if female noble cleric can I multiclass a few levels to add a dash of either sorc(to head towards mystic theurge) or rogue(for a dash of combat and stealth bonuses)

I have read only a couple Drizzt stories so I don't how common this is though I would expect a female to get an edge anyway she can.

Liberty's Edge

Swagger:
Currently, there isn't one, I'll tell you of I want you kind of thing.

Darklighthitomi:
Go for it, majority of levels need to be cleric though...


How is my background so far? I posted it before you left. If I need to try again that is ok. I will just do another one. :)


Tanis what you think of me and Luaediin Or'danel knowing each other.

Lantern Lodge

Can I use the hidden priest archetype only instead of pretending to be an arcane caster she pretends to be casting for one of the major religions?

Mostly this is so she can have a tattoo(or scar rather[involved in the backstory]) as a divine focus and because part of her backstory (before I thought about archetypes)is that she realized that faith fuels the magic regardless of where that faith is placed and I saw this archetype fits that backstory. She places her faith in herself as opposed to a demon or god but she knows that to reveal that would be bad.

Liberty's Edge

For all of the above questions, it is fine


yay; your back! Now the story can go on!


So i put together a backstory. Let me know what you think Tanis and also Zalazra. I'm cool with changing whatever. A lot of it is vauge because honestly I don't know enough about drow Astrology to know what a particularly ill omen or sign might be but whatever.

Liberty's Edge

is it to late to join up and will the game be done via skype or somthing?


They do not have an Astrology Luaediin, no sky in the the Cold hell.
So I would say they go on geological and the grate Darkness life rhythms.
Looking down not up, saying things like "Number 12, 7 and 2 Voults was open on the day of your bearth.
The Voults are the lowest level of the forever dark.

Liberty's Edge

Spider, this will be a Play by Post, and it is not to late


I will have my stats up within the a few hours hopefully.
edit:changed time


Can I have

Quote:
Ambitious Schemer: Seduction and treachery are tools for advancement in drow society, even for the martially inclined. Drow with this racial trait may choose either Bluff or Diplomacy as a class skill, and gain a +2 bonus on such skill checks. This racial trait replaces keen sight.

It fits my background. It is a racial trait from the ARG.

Liberty's Edge

Yeah, if thats what you want.


How do you feel about a Hobgoblin? The character would obviously be a slave, but I was thinking a honored slave, one that has proven loyal enough to be given command of other slaves. Perhaps he has even earned his freedom and works on contract now.

The character would be an Ironskin Monk. The character would be a brute but not dumb. As far as part role goes, he'd be up in the front lines hitting things, though I'm thinking he'll also use a whip to perform Combat Manoeuvres. Out of combat he'd be a less than friendly face as well as a suitable scout.

Liberty's Edge

I don't have a problem with that, but, the drow have trust issues, in fact, trusting is rare, and so is slaves earning freedom, so, for the adventure, you could be an escaped slave who happens upon the party, who then enslaves you, as you work with them.

Thats about as realistic as it would get for you, sorry.


Tanis, if its not being to bold, Cuan's PC could be my second salve from the temple, as long as your PCs a member of the church should be fine, with a Hobgoblin temple salve that could even give yous some modicum of freedom with in limits, I can not just order him to his death and will be bound by faith to keep him safe as property of the temple. He on the other hand could be with me to keep an eye on me for the temple, just in case the Demon Armor ever wins a ego roll, hehe. Just an Idea.

Liberty's Edge

Something like that could also happen...

Sovereign Court

While I could see him as a temple slave, I doubt he'd be an actual member of the church. The reason for that mainly is because, as a monk, he has to be lawful and that's a less than perfect for for demon worship.

That issue could be solved by saying he's a slave owned by the city loaned to the the temple to help keep other slaves in line (he'd have started his job as a slave and then pitboss at some city industry). His job at the temple would simply be keeping other slaves in line, though secretly he is also ordered to keep an eye on the temple's priestesses. When Zalazra got the demon armor the city rulership might have gotten a little afraid and told him to pay special attention to her, which would be why he tagged along.

As for deity, Morkrat himself would be a follower of Zon-Kuthon, or something similar, accepting the whippings and punishment that come with being a slave in stride.

EDIT: Another idea would be that he is owned by Zalazra's house and he is appointed as her whipping boy, so he's to get whipped whenever she deserves the lashings.

Lantern Lodge

Sry I haven't posted, my internet is down except for my phone, though should be up by sat night.


Terakeer is a battle commander of sorts. Maybe Weaponsmaster of this new house he's been thrown in by now? Or do I actually need any more tweaking to my back ground? Tanis, as far as I know my character is complete and Im ready to play, am I correct? Or are their a few changes you'd like me to make?

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