So Lyn,
About my X-Men Live Fan Experience...
I won a poster signed by Hugh Jackman, which I also got signed by Michael Fassbender(young Magneto). Also high-fived Michael at the screening.
Do not worry about the movie Lyn, it should totally live up to your expectations, more or less. Just remember that its a sequel to First Class too. Having not actually read the story(but knowing all about it), I am not sure how some of the stuff in the movie jives with the comics, but DOES fit in with First Class. Also, remember its technically a sequel to the first three X-Men movies as well, and takes events in them into account.
But it was insanely awesome, and trust me when I say the future stuff is plenty dark and brutal.
Finally, the post movie scene is after ALL the credits.
OMG....I am soooo jealous!
And I now have the slightest sliver of hope that they won't ruin my favorite storyline. :)
For the record, going with just the X-Men in Days, we lack:
Blink
Warpath
Storm
Bishop
Sunspot
At least as far as I know.
Also, before you make the argument that Tybs or any other teleporter is Blink, she uses portals she creates to telport and can use them in an offensive manner, such as teleporting away parts of an object or person, and by creating dimensional energy projection javelins.
Kamenwati = Storm
(mostly. a little overlap there with Janie, but she's inspired by a different source so I don't really count her for this.)
MG-
Psionics has dissipate- a damaging teleportation spell.
I forgot about Kam. Which is funny cause I remembered him last time I was thinkin bout something storm related. Clearly not the case tonight.
Ice, sorta, except Blink can do so much more with her portals. Not only can she offensively teleport parts of people or objects away(and I think at range), but she can use them to totally redirect attacks or attackers, and her javelins can not only harm but also stun people into unconsciousness.
My point was, yes, there are some inspired, or perhaps even clones, of X-Men characters in game so far, but there's a vast number of mutants out there, and I didn't list sorta obscure ones.
Lyn, gentle reminder that you have a PM from me.
Same here, on the pride thing, if you want I can resend it
I just realized something.
I think this is the first day of classes that Lang did not walk with Ignace to class or have breakfast with her..
bet she is loving that break.
It's only been like 2 days...
And my point was that there is mechanics to support these things.
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As one of Lucas' character traits, he never admits he doesn't know something, and rarely admits he is wrong,
He doesn't lie, guess or BS on those times, he just deflects
when he is shown to be wrong he will admit it without hesitation, because he has to for the reputation he is trying to cultivate
My other characters don't really have this trait
Dave will do so in pretty much the normal manor, albiet a bit more frustrated afters, where he has his difficulty is in admitting he's wrong. In such an instance he will react much like igni to not knowing.
Grim will pout upon being put into such a situation, but will admit it
Arthur on the other hand readily admits both when such a situation happens, if asked why he'll respond "not knowing something means there's an oppurtunity to learn something!"
I think Dave might have missed my post last page. :)
Every time (lately) I've seen Lucas Svarog's chosen picture, I think of Sorchan del Sol.
>.<
This will pass, thought I'd share.
Oh Loki... If i ever find out about what you do...
Also, unfortunately for you, "bird boy" has blindsight.
Dave's blind sight only works when he focusses it.
I also kinda want this to happen. Reveals something about Tybs's curse.
Going to wait for Dave to post first, though.
He also has perception +50 something.
Pretty sure he'd notice a splash in his cup.
Course' everyone has to draw the idiot ball for the sake of the plot from time to time.
I'm glad you're finally OK with that.
This is growth.
Or at least you're convincingly pretending to be OK with it.
Which is also growth.
Oh, I'm very, very, not ok with it.
I'm just getting used to having to let it lie.
That's good enough for me to be at least a little proud of you.
I also have scent, SR and am immune to poisons, roll your slight of hand vs my perception (a +44 with current modifiers) and your caster level vs my sr
According to his charecter profile, he has slight of hand +28.
He doesn't even have stealth listed...
Let's se if I roll a 3 or less and you roll a 20 you can beat me
Just let it go, David. You're in the middle of a semi-serious conversation with your best friend who has just confessed his love for you, and you've also just had to deal with a zombie plague and an assassination attempt.
Its OK to be a little distracted and allow the RULES LIGHT aspect of the game to take over for the sake of fun and plot.
Not only that, but your best friend in game, and somebody whose at least a friend IRL wants this to happen. Do you really need to fight this?
Funny, I'm his friend irl too... And i find it abhorrent.
In other words, let him do what he likes with it.
Don't assume what other characters can do if it's not stated out in the open.
Wanting/encouraging someone's character to pick up the idiot ball for the sake of plot isn't the best thing, because the idiot ball, by it's nature of making a character more incompetent then he really is, disrupts the continuity of the plot.
I don't intend to be mean-spirited.
If players find that the idiot ball suits their desires, let them use it.
But don't try and push it on a character for your plot desires.
Ehos is king of the idiot ball.
And yet, you're denying the plot isn't selfish?
My point is, yes, 99% of games, one should never pick up the "idiot ball"(which btw, is kinda offensive, since I believe Lyn and FCD do stuff like this a lot).
However, Avalon is the perfect type of game to do this kinda thing. Ignore your stats and abilities for the sake of plot and fun sounds exactly like Rules Light to me.
But Dave's senses are a core part of his abilities, how about this, we let the dice fall where the may, And I'll even give myself a -5 circumstance penalty
Sorry if idiot ball is offensive.
I forget that not everyone speaks trope.
You're denying the "plot" by making the older plot still relevant.
You don't just suddenly not have your skills anymore. (Usually.)
The games have a built in failure- low rolls.
And this is a matter of opinion.
you could probably pull pranks on most of my characters all day, I roll so crappy usually i would never notice
Also, in this setting, you aren't even denying the plot. By passing the check and noticing it, you just moved the plot, just in a different direction.
My point is, you factor in everything else that I mentioned above which causes David to not notice something that happens super quick.
Just remember, Avalon is way more of a cooperative game than your typical one. Sure, David is super badass with his senses, but shouldn't Loki be allowed to have his fun too?
In the end, it all comes down to personal preference.
If you're doing something against one of my characters, please roll a check.
For others, it's up to them. I'm not arguing against that.
My point is, you factor in everything else that I mentioned above which causes David to not notice something that happens super quick.
Just remember, Avalon is way more of a cooperative game than your typical one. Sure, David is super badass with his senses, but shouldn't Loki be allowed to have his fun too?
And if David is chill with that, great.
Like i said about opinion, however, if you do anything like that to me, make the check- it would kill my fun if my characters didn't do the things they were awesome at.
(Exception- don't even bother with marcell, unless your check is really, really low. She's a level 1 commoner... Normally, anyway. Right now, she's a psuedodragon (using it's HD))
I could likely smell it In my drink, or notice that it was more full than before, even if I didn't see it go in
Look, I can't force you to not notice. I'm just trying to explain in a reasonable fashion why you wouldn't.
You wanna go ahead and ruin Loki's fun, be my guest.
it's not as black and white as you make it seem, monkeygod.
"Ruining loki's fun" also means putting Dave in a poor spot, and denying his stats.
Like you said, it's a cooperative game. That doesn't mean there isn't a framework for how things work, it's about telling a story.
Ugh. I'm done. You two suck the fun out of this game a lot.
Ugh. I'm done. You two suck the fun out of this game a lot.
And here i was, trying not to be hostile.
Can I add my 2 cent worth here?
Stats by most here are nothing more than numbers, but it is also how we role-play the characters
by the numbers Mel is among the bad to mediocre musicians here, (average charisma and average bonuses). in fact most players have better perform skills than Mel, its all in how I role play the skill not entirely the numbers on the page.
If there were a music competition and we went entirely by skill rolls, Mel would barely place. so instead I play her as a good musician and not worry so much about the stats. otherwise I would be way more depressed than I usually am
There are so many other things I could have done, so many things that would have made the body swap look like no big deal. The body swap just seemed like the most fun, but if you want I can always do one of those horrible things, like uncontrollable teleportation, or how about a fireball brewing in your gut, or maybe an implosion or explosion, or my personal favorite INSTANT DEATH.
Melody, your preform skill is plenty high by game standard.
To pull from the rules...
Dc 30 Extraordinary performance. In a prosperous city, you can earn 3d6 gp/day. In time, you may draw attention from distant patrons, or even from extraplanar beings.
You're playing her according to her stats just fine.
There are so many other things I could have done, so many things that would have made the body swap look like no big deal. The body swap just seemed like the most fun, but if you want I can always do one of those horrible things, like uncontrollable teleportation, or how about a fireball brewing in your gut, or maybe an implosion or explosion, or my personal favorite INSTANT DEATH.
But malicious actions get you ported to detention.
And there is such a thing as a saving throw.
Lastly, killing a pc intentionally kinda sorta makes you a villain. I think.
Also, are you aware of the heavy restrictions on what you can put in a potion?
No spells above level three, for starters.
And I have Sr
Can my phone not die for like 20 minutes without a big pointless brouhaha happening while I'm gone?
Ok. Here goes. I'm not Lyn and I don't have her say, but I at least seem to be a voice of reason around here sometimes.
Ice: You have fair and valid points. If Dave would notice it, he would notice it. Thank you for being less standoffish about this than usual.
Foul: yes I would like this to happen to reveal a part of character for Tybs. My explanation would be that Tybs has the trays levitating behind them while they talk, followed with the fact that no one remembers what height their drink is.
But, ignoring that, I understand Dave has high perception etc. I'm OK with it not happening. There will be other opportunities
MG: Ice is actually being very reasonable for once. He wasn't getting overly upset about this or debating it into the ground. Name calling is never the answer, and it's OK for other people to have opinions that don't line up with yours.
Loki: please don't threaten me or other people with in character things because of out of character things. Mucho no bueno. And yes, there are restrictions to what can be put in potions. Instant death would not be one of them.
And everyone: please stop debating my cases for me. I am on debate team and perfectly capable of having my own conversations. All this is is a disagreement in stats or plot being more important. It doesn't have to go this far. Both sides made valid points, but in the end, it's up to Foul to decide if he wants to take a hit on his stats for the plot or not. I understand either way, and there will be either times that we can do the one not picked. We don't need to take these things this far out of proportion.
It's more a question of do I want to be nice to Loki and tybs ooc or do I want to maintain continuity
I'd find it reasonable to roll for it giving myself a rather large penalty for the roll,
So Loki, if you would please roll your stealth (without invisibility mods) or slight of hand I will in turn roll perception
This is a good middle ground and gives both sides an about equal chance to happen. Thank you.
/This/ is a compromise. And also a good example of when stats help story. This could go either way. He gives leniency in his stats to give the story a chance to happen without completely breaking the continuity by ignoring Dave's super senses because we want something ooc.
Well....guess I don't need to weigh in now... Magic literally already said all the things I was going to say. :)
Glad you guys were able to sort out your disagreement without me.