Search for the Grail of the Phoenix

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Two of the three Maiden's are gone, help find them.

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fnord72 wrote:

Are templates allowed?

Depends on the template.

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Half-celestial? I've got a concept I enjoy of an aasimar that's a bit closer tied to her celestial background than usual.

3d8 ⇒ (8, 4, 6) = 18
3d8 ⇒ (6, 6, 4) = 16
3d8 ⇒ (4, 6, 5) = 15
3d8 ⇒ (7, 3, 5) = 15
3d8 ⇒ (5, 1, 7) = 13
3d8 ⇒ (2, 7, 6) = 15

3d8 ⇒ (4, 3, 6) = 13
3d8 ⇒ (3, 5, 4) = 12
3d8 ⇒ (6, 3, 2) = 11
3d8 ⇒ (7, 7, 8) = 22
3d8 ⇒ (4, 8, 1) = 13
3d8 ⇒ (8, 8, 5) = 21

Couple of interesting options here.

Phaelanna Xiltoara wrote:
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I'm checking in as well. Also, Phaelanna, it looks as though we have the same profile picture. Would you like me to change mine, or do you wanna?

fnord72 wrote:

Half-celestial? I've got a concept I enjoy of an aasimar that's a bit closer tied to her celestial background than usual.

You may use the template but you would be a lower level then everyone else.

Let's see what the dice say first.

Set 1
Str: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 1, 5) = 9
Dex: 3d8 ⇒ (7, 2, 2) = 11
Con: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 5, 4) = 13
Int: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 4, 5) = 17
Wis: 3d8 ⇒ (1, 7, 6) = 14
Cha: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 5, 8) = 21

Set 2
Str: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 1, 7) = 11
Dex: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 5, 6) = 17
Con: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 8, 5) = 18
Int: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 5, 8) = 16
Wis: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 1, 1) = 8
Cha: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 4, 4) = 12

Well the first is a caster of some sort. Was hoping for wis to do a cleric. Oracle is on the table though. The second is a really healthy rogue. Maybe a magus. Gotta think on this.

I think I got it. Set 2 and Dervish Defender. Going to use the martial tradition Lens Maker Society for Mithril Current discipline which uses Perform(dance) for some maneuvers. Their beliefs should align well with Balseria. They're kinda like robin hood. Steal from the corrupt to give to the poor. My character adores all three guardians and has tried to blend their virtues into one.

I will try and see if another drow female works for my pic first

Found one

Zayne Iwatani wrote:
I think I got it. Set 2 and Dervish Defender. Going to use the martial tradition Lens Maker Society for Mithril Current discipline which uses Perform(dance) for some maneuvers. Their beliefs should align well with Balseria. They're kinda like robin hood. Steal from the corrupt to give to the poor. My character adores all three guardians and has tried to blend their virtues into one.

Well, this should be interesting, considering I'm playing one of the current guardians. :D

That reminds me. Are the guardians well known? Are the always female? Do they always exemplify the same virtues?

Honestly, I don't know how close the GM will be sticking to what I came up with, so take this for what it's worth.

There are rumors of the guardians and the grail that are relatively well known, but the whole point was to protect the grail from those that'd misuse it. This makes concrete information on the guardians and the grail hard to come by. I came up with the idea because I wanted to play a character whose background was heavily inspired by the fates/norns/wyrd sisters, so yeah, I was picturing them as always female, even if I never said it outright in the doc I made and linked to for the GM. As for the virtues, the short answer is yes, they do embody the same virtues. A slightly longer answer is yes, but which virtues are emphasized differs from generation to generation. Audria, for example, embodies strength, but the guardian from two generations ago could have embodied courage and the guardian before that could have embodied perseverance, which are virtues that Audria also embodies, but to a lesser extent.

Random stat generation? Oh my~!

or 14,19,11,17,16,17

No contest.
S: 3d8 ⇒ (7, 5, 8) = 20, 3d8 ⇒ (6, 2, 6) = 14
D: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 7, 8) = 19, 3d8 ⇒ (8, 4, 7) = 19
C: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 4, 3) = 9, 3d8 ⇒ (3, 3, 5) = 11
I: 3d8 ⇒ (7, 7, 7) = 21, 3d8 ⇒ (6, 4, 7) = 17
W: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 3, 4) = 10, 3d8 ⇒ (1, 8, 7) = 16
C: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 2, 8) = 15, 3d8 ⇒ (7, 2, 8) = 17

I've not seen any skill types, and while there seems to be a particularly religious bent with most of the proposals, there's that one character that I haven't seen offset the group: The Scoundrel.

"Look.", the Dwarf said, her unflinching gaze leveled at everyone that was seated at the inn table. She had just walked up to their table as they were discussing options that night in the common room of their inn. "As devoted as you are— you talk louder than you need for what you discuss in here– it is obvious to me that none of you know how to carry yourselves in places where goodly folk know better than to go." With her head barely above the level of the table, it was a bit impressive. Those eyes were dark and hard. "I can find those places, get you in... and walk you out. That is something you will be needing, I think." There was a long pause as everyone received a measuring look before an eyebrow quirked and the faintest quirk could be seen around one side of her mouth. "Or not... I am no psychic." Her shoulders rose and fell in a small shrug. "But I do think you would be better off with my company."

It turned out that Ianthé "Call me Jack" Jack was a cornucopia of talents and skills. There were few things that she was not versed in, with a personal focus in Brewing, espousing a distaste for the inferiority of the swill that came in mugs at most taverns. When once asked how she learned her skills, her response was a cryptic, "Sometimes a lot can be learned when you don't know what to look for."


Ianthé Jack
N Female Dwarf
Unchained Rogue 5
Spd: 20

HP: 33
Saves: +2/+8/+2
CMD: 23

BAB: +3
CMB: +7

Traits: Artisan, Hidden Hand
Feats: Brewmaster, Toxic Recovery, Master Craftsman
Racial: Darkvision, Hardy, Lorekeeper, Mountaineer, Slow and Steady, Weapon Familiarity, Wyrmscourged
Special Abilities: Finesse Training(Dagger), Sneak Attack(+3d6), Trapfinding, Evasion, RT:Bleeding Attack, Danger Sense +1, Finesse Training(Rapier), Debilitating Injury, RT:Powerful Sneak, Uncanny Dodge, Rogue's Edge(Perception)
Favored Class: Rogue
Statistics: 20,19,12,21,12,13

Skills: =(A+R+C)
Acrobatics 9=(4+2+3)
Appraise 10=(5+2+3)
Bluff 9=(1+5+3)
Climb 10=(4+3+3)
Craft(Alchemy) 15=(5+5+3+2)
Diplomacy 9=(1+5+3)
Disable Device 12=(4+5+3)
Escape Artist 9=(4+2+3)
Intimidate 9=(1+5+3)
K.(Dungeoneering) 11=(5+4+3)
K.(Local) 13=(5+5+3)
Perception 9=(1+5+3)
Profession(Brewer) 9=(1+5+3)
Sense Motive =(1+4+3)
Sleight of Hand 10=(4+3+3+*)
Stealth 12=(4+5+3)
Swim 9=(5+1+3) 1

*Hidden Hand Trait
Disguise, Linguistics, Perform, Use Magic Device.

That was a bit to get out. I'll follow tomorrow with gear.

Last question then. How are the next generation chosen? If its via trials that multiple candidates can try I have another idea that is almost the reverse of the above. Instead of adoration I was thinking she would have a grudge instead. A dark past taints her soul (CN at best) and thus prevents her from being chosen. Despite having excellent combat skills she's selfish, overly violent, and enjoys hurting people (even if they are evil). She's kind of manic in her reverence of Belsaria. She feels jaded and angry at having not been chosen. Hearing about how they are all dead now with the new generation on the run, she sees an opportunity. If she can save them she might get a second chance. Its not about any since of justice or kindness though. She just wants to prove she's better. Switching Warder for Harbinger.

As I wrote it, the next generation is marked from birth with the image of Baliserius' holy symbol on their back and platinum eyes and hair.

That said there's nothing stopping your character from harboring a grudge about not being chosen. It could even be someone that was jealous of them getting treated as equals while they had to handle menial chores or help bring food to the temple the Grail was kept at. Just because the temple is/was hidden doesn't mean it was self-sufficient.

That said, this is my take on it and not the GM's. They may have a different idea about this.

On the other hand, this would be fun to play off of. :)

Glad you like it. I will wait for Castle Blades then.

Just use what Adam said, I'm fine with it.


Here's the backstory I came up with.

Marla May Rated M for Violence:
In the beginning, I knew only light and happiness. My parents were kind and loving people. They cared for me, fed me, clothed me, and played with me. They took care of me when I was sick and comforted me when I was sad. And yes, they scolded me when I was bad. But that was okay because I knew, deep down, they still loved me and I still loved them. Every week we would join the congregation to pray and give thanks to our goddess Balseria. I could not fully comprehend who she was at the time but I imagined her to be the most amazing, kindest, and most beautiful women in the world. I very much wanted to be like her when I grew up. Together we offered what we could and prayed for her protection. I thought those happy days in the sun would continue forever. But evil lurks in the darkness. And it stole something very precious from me.

First, it was my father. I didn't know it at the time but the signs were all there. One day he walked into our house, eyes red with hate. His every word was filled with anger and spite. He unleashed a torrent of hatred upon my mother. He even moved and swayed in some kind of demonic dance, to a disturbing tune neither I nor my mother could hear. And then he would rain blow after blow against my poor mother, sometimes to the point bleeding or unconsciousness. My father...had been possessed by a demon. Everyday the demon assumed control and beat my mother. Until the day she became so weak, a demon possessed her too. When my demon father was through with my demon mother, she would then turn on me and beat me as he had her.

For days this went on. I knew not what to do. I hid beneath my bed sometimes and prayed to the tiny figure of Balseria at my little mach-shift alter. I prayed for strength in case the demons came for me next, to possess me away and force me to do their bidding. To weaken another and repeat the cycle with some other family. That thought gave me strength. The strength to face the demons head on with Balseria's holy light. I challenged them one day, trying to banish them from my home. But they turned on me. They both attacked me and Balseria could not help me. It was the most painful thing I'd ever experienced. I realized my error too late. MY parents weren't possessed. They were gone, dead, replaced with demons that looked exactly like them. There was no way my flimsy holy symbol could banish real demons.

When I awoke. Things were different. The demons, they were acting nice. Too nice. They knew I was on to them. They tried to fool me. Make me think they were my parents once more. The act was good. They were kind and gentle people again. They treated my wounds. They fed me again. They consoled me again. They even played with me again. But we never went to the temple after that. They couldn't step foot there. I knew the truth. They were lying in wait. Fooling me so that when they attacked again I would be unprepared. I had to strike before them. Before they took me.

So one night as they slept, I grabbed a kitchen knife and sneaked into their room. I crawled up on their bed, prayed the knife would pierce demon hide, and struck. I went for my demon father first for he seemed strongest. I stabbed and stabbed and stabbed the knife into his chest, demon blood gushing from his wounds. I must have struck true because his retaliation was feeble and weak. He stopped soon after. My courage must have surprised my demon mother for she fell from the bed screaming. The death of her superior must have fractured her mind weakened her. I easily leapt from the bed and brought the blade down on her throat. She gained some semblance of her strength back and through me away. She ran out of the room but did not make it far. The wound on her throat was too grievous. She fell and crawled to the back door only to find she had not the strength to reach the handle. I finished the job there.

I had done it. I had killed the demons and saved the town. But my elation was short lived. I realized that my parents were long gone. Taken away a long time ago by the demons I had slayed. I was alone. So I cried. And I fled to the last place I felt safe. The temple of Balseria. As I had hoped, they took me. And once again I knew light and happiness.

I devoted myself to Balseria completely. I prayed day and night. I studied the tomes. I practiced with the sword and shield. I cleaned the temple. Eventually my devotion was recognized and I was sent away to a far off temple when I was still very young. I continued my duties there. I cleaned. I grew crops. I prayed. And I fought. I am proud to say I was one of the strongest too. I also learned of the temple's secret. It held a mighty artifact of Balseria's and was guarded by her chosen disciple's. Women that personified the goddess's virtues and were blessed by her radiance. When I learned of this secret I knew my purpose. I had defeated two powerful demons when I was but a child. I must be next in line to be a guardian. I wasn't. A few years after arriving here, three girls with platinum hair and the mark of the goddess arrived. I was told they were chosen to be the next guardians by the goddess herself as foretold by there appearance. They were ones given the honor of protecting the goddess's sacred treasure. This...was wrong. It had to be. I had worshiped her since I was child. My faith was the strongest. I was stronger then them by far. I should have been chosen. I voiced my thoughts many times but the guardians refused me every time. They said I did not understand the tenets, did not understand what it meant to be a true believer was, that if I looked inside myself with eyes unclouded by hate I would see the truth. B@*@$!*#. All of it. But I waited patiently. My time would come. The guardians would see I was the better choice. That I was the chosen one.

That patience payed off. One day, cultists came to steal the artifact. Several broke off to stale the acolytes like myself while the strongest went straight for the guardians and the artifact. I slew all who stood before me and ran for the inner temple. But I was too late. Two of the guardians were dead and one remaining did not have long left. I could tell by her wounds. I vowed vengeance on the murderous scum and chased after them. I lost the trail but have been hunting for them ever since. But when I find them and bring the last one to justice, surely they will see me in a new light and know I was the right choice.

Oh man, that's some pretty dark stuff. <blantantLies>I can see Marla and Audria getting along just fine.</blantantLies>

Zayne Iwatani wrote:

Here's the backstory I came up with.

** spoiler omitted **...

Alright that's awesome, pay the crunch and you will be ready to go. One more thing though, it's Balserius and he is a God not a goddess, though they is really just flavor.

Oooo...i like it

Still got some money left over but here is what I have. Deadly within about 40ft. Weak to Will saves, hidden enemies, liars and water. Yes she is mildly afraid of water. Extremely graceful on land but flailing mess in water.

Also: Because of the female theme I assumed Balseria was female too. And it sounds like a female name. I'll change things but Marla is staying female.

Alright, just clarifying it's Balserius not Balseria.

For those that would like to know more. Ninevrah

Castle Blades, are we still waiting on any more players before we get started?

AdamWarnock wrote:
Castle Blades, are we still waiting on any more players before we get started?

we need one more i in?

Marla May wrote: i in?

oh yes, sorry I forgot to say that, you are very much in.

Great! But who else is in? There seem to be a good number of completed characters.

Curious too! My character has been ready for a while :)

Not sure if it is still open, I would be interested in this. I tried a space thing but that did not pan out for me or my schedule. Would love to give this a try. I would love to play a bard, Undine Watersinger possibly?

str: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 1, 2) = 11
Dex: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 5, 6) = 19
Con: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 1, 7) = 12
Int: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 7, 4) = 16
Wis: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 4, 7) = 16
Cha: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 4, 3) = 15

str: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 8, 5) = 15
Dex: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 8, 5) = 15
Con: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 6, 7) = 19
Int: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 8, 7) = 23
Wis: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 7, 4) = 16
Cha: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 2, 7) = 11

Will the gestalted ones remain one level lower than non-gestalted? Tempted to through in something else but not sure what.

*checking in occasionally*

Zayne Iwatani wrote:
Will the gestalted ones remain one level lower than non-gestalted? Tempted to through in something else but not sure what.

yes they will be over level lower at all times.

Can I get a role call fire all made characters?

Here o/


Castle Blades wrote:
Can I get a role call fire all made characters?

I don't have one made, I rolled the stats just incase you needed another player. Is the party already full?


RelicBlackOUT wrote:
Castle Blades wrote:
Can I get a role call fire all made characters?
I don't have one made, I rolled the stats just incase you needed another player. Is the party already full?

I don't think so. The GM said he was waiting on one more just before you posted.

Figure I will throw some dice, see if an idea forms. Always fun for the details to be set for you.

strength: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 8, 4) = 17
dexterity: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 2, 1) = 7
constitution: 3d8 ⇒ (7, 7, 4) = 18
intelligence: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 4, 5) = 12
wisdom: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 6, 6) = 20
charisma: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 4, 3) = 12

strength: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 7, 1) = 13
dexterity: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 8, 2) = 16
constitution: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 8, 8) = 20
intelligence: 3d8 ⇒ (4, 1, 2) = 7
wisdom: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 8, 8) = 18
charisma: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 5, 1) = 14

Me'mori wrote:

which charcter is yours again?


I'm curious as to what I get. Here goes...

Strength: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 6, 7) = 15
Dexterity: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 1, 4) = 11
Constitution: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 4, 4) = 10
Intelligence: 3d8 ⇒ (5, 6, 8) = 19
Wisdom: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 6, 8) = 17
Charisma: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 4, 7) = 13

Strength: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 8, 8) = 22
Dexterity: 3d8 ⇒ (2, 3, 5) = 10
Constitution: 3d8 ⇒ (3, 3, 2) = 8
Intelligence: 3d8 ⇒ (7, 8, 5) = 20
Wisdom: 3d8 ⇒ (6, 8, 6) = 20
Charisma: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 1, 4) = 13

Wow. That second set makes me feel obligated to roll up a character. 22, 20, 20 is great - even if the other stats are a little lackluster.

I'm... actually considering using an Undead template of some sort, if allowed, and then coupling it with Gestalt Cleric/Wizard. Presumably, that'd put the character at level 3 - not sure what the wealth would be. Would that be allowed? Non-evil undead allowed?

Argh, though. I just wish I could swap Intelligence and Charisma, or Wisdom and Charisma. Then I could be an undead paladin, non-gestalt. (Not being able to lay-on-hands myself would be unfortunate though.)

Castle Blades wrote:
Me'mori wrote:
which charcter is yours again?

Ianthé Jack. Dwarf Rogue.


RealLifeCorn - Eleanor Aurist - Unchained Barbarian 2/Unchained Summoner(synthesist) 3 - Guessing she's already in.
adsapiens - Harbaestus - Male drow noble unchained monk 2/paladin (iroran paladin) 2/eldritch godling 4/gestalt 4 - Don't think that is a legal combo. I think all three classes are supposed to be level 3.
Pennate - Egryzon The White - Male Kobold Gestalt Summoner 4 / Kineticist 4
Me'mori - Ianthé Jack - Female Dwarf Unchained Rogue 5

And Marla May of course.

I assume these two are in since they were mentioned in the recruitment.
Critzible - Phaelanna Xiltoara - Female Drow Noble Witch(White Haired) 4/Unchained Rogue 4
AdamWarnock - Audria - Female angel-blooded aasimar (angelkin) sphere paladin 4/incanter 4/gestalt 4

Also that's three drow. Thought that was odd.

@Zayne: It's only a gestalt, not a tristalt. It's perfectly valid per gestalt rules: one side is monk/pally (2 levels each), the other side is godling (4 levels). This was checked with the GM already, and authorized - race, classes, third-parties. I don't see your character on the list - shouldn't you be more worried about it?

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