RotRL aka "The Heroes of Sandpoint"

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Something sinister is happening in Sandpoint and only our heroes can stop it. See what happens when a group loses DM after DM and yet the heroes forge on!


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Assume Sayniek and Cristiel walk away with 1000 gp ea and the rest of you 2000gp

Let me know what you spend the money on then I will narrate the "liquidation" and the remaining week.

Vidar can you do a quick calculation on all the scribing of spells you hope to accomplish in a week and let me know the total cost? Also I encourage you specifically to review your inventory and tell me if you want to sell anything else.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

I don't really have enough money to purchase or upgrade anything. Really, probably the bastard sword would be the first thing to be upgraded, unless the magic bastard sword we found can resize itself to small.

As Sayniek did not pick up much, I do not think that she has anything to sell.


For some reason I thought that was hashed but yes it resizes.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Ok, then Sayniek will take the bastard sword. Adding it to her equipment.


I know I have been slow for a bit but c'mon folks. I'm asking for some basic info and crunch updates before I proceed. If I need to shut the game down because we have gotten too busy so be it but if I don't see some movement in the next day or so I am putting a clock on the game. Not trying to be a jerk, by no means, but the game needs a pulse to be worth running ya know?


Male Human (Ulfen) Wizard (Enhancer) 2

After some consideration, I think Vidar will hold off on gaining new spells for now.
Once we hit Magnimar he will probably do some shopping for scrolls and such instead.
As for the items in his inventory, he will hold on to them for now.
Being a former street rat, he probably have some hoarding tendencies either way.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

With the holiday, my computer time has been relatively light. Sorry if that hasn't aligned with your expectations. An additional 2000 gp may change my shopping list, but I still want the following:

Camillo Duin wrote:
There's a lot I could use, but my wish list remains relatively short: Swapping my cold iron handaxe for a masterwork cold iron dagger (are they automatically masterwork like mithral?) or standard cold iron dagger; and getting a +1 to my darkwood shield.

I will post again after looking things over some more.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Cold Iron is just normal, but a little more expensive. Making them masterwork still costs 300 gold. However, to make a cold iron weapon magic costs like an extra 2000 or something on top of the usual enchantment cost, but it is a one time cost.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

OK, thinks Camillo would be interested in if it were available:

Cloak of Resistance +1
Trade in Chain Shirt +1 for mithral Chain Shirt or mithral Chain Shirt +1
Masterwork or magical sap
Masterwork or magical whip
Belt of Dexterity

By no means do I think all these things are available nor can I afford them all currently - it is just a wish list and gives the DM some idea of what I would be looking for - I may save my money and wait until we go to Magnimar, too.

Other than the shopping above, Camillo will be 'singing for his supper' at the 'Dragon while Ameiko is working and spending time with her when possible otherwise.

Oh, and I've made the minor change that applies to him for unchained rogue. At next level, he gets something, but at this level, he really gains nothing.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None
Sayniek wrote:
Cold Iron is just normal, but a little more expensive. Making them masterwork still costs 300 gold. However, to make a cold iron weapon magic costs like an extra 2000 or something on top of the usual enchantment cost, but it is a one time cost.

That's what I thought, I just didn't take the time to confirm. Thanks for that.


No Cam, you and Sayniek have been active and I have a chime in from Vidar and I know Cristiel has stuff going on but he and Kithian have been pretty quiet and Rullis is fully MIA so I'm just trying to light a bit of a fire. No animus, seriously.

Umm lemme see...

Cloak +1 is available,
No Mithril
No magic sap or whip but you can get either MW
No Belt

Allright, that you can take your pick from or wait for the big city, I will get a moving on post up in a bit...


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Sorry if I'm being dense, but is enchanting the shield an option? Is swapping the handaxe for the dagger possible? (I'm mostly doing this because I'm not proficient with the handaxe but want to have a cold iron option at hand. I'm tired of the non-proficiency penalty.)

Priorities:

Get a +1 on the heavy darkwood shield
Purchase the Cloak of Resistance +1
Purchase a mundane sap

The rest of his cash will remain unspent unless he finds something intriguing in Magnimar.


I swear I am going to drop kick my tech out a window. I basically have lost the ability to post when I m not at work apparently, which I will not abide. ANYWAY. Lost a couple of posts.

Sorry for the lack of clarity Cam, you are good to do a trade out on the handaxe, you are good to get a +1 on the shield. You guys are liked well enough that the trade out will be at no charge. Standard market for the +1)


Male Half Orc Barbarian 5/ Oracle 1/ RP 1, Perception +7, Darkvision, Fort +8/ Ref +1/ Will +3, Init +4, AC 18, HP :76

looks like no Adamantine Falchion for me, would cost 4075gp... well -1k for having a +1 right now..


Male Human (Ulfen) Wizard (Enhancer) 2

I doubt you can get it here at that cost, but Vidar might be willing to lend you some money once we are in Magnimar where we can find one.


Actually if you can scrape together the cash it can be done. Korvut tends to squirrel away that sort of thing for personal projects but he like Kithian enough he can make it happen if the money is in hand.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Camillo would loan you a bit, also. Let Vidar save some funds for spellbook additions when we get to the city.

DM Devon: Thanks for the clarification. I just didn't want to make assumptions after you went to so much trouble to help us move forward.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Sayniek can loan some, she has 1400 right now, and not much to purchase in that price range.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

OK, I spent 1000 gp on enchanting the shield, another 1000 gp on a cloak of resistance, 300 gp for the difference on the masterwork on the cold iron dagger (because it just seemed right), and 1 gp for a sap because I like options.

Do we need to purchase victuals? Other than that, I believe I am ready to proceed.


Yeah you guys are probably tapped out on the food/provision front and you won't eat free in Magnimar the way you go in town. Might be good to pick up some basics just in case.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Sayniek will take the knife - do you have an exact description of what the knife does?


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Do we have - or do we need to purchase - a wand of healing? I believe we have a number of people that can use it - Kithian, Sayniek, Camillo, off the top of my head. Of those, it would appear that Camillo is most likely to be moving around the battlefield and hopefully able to reach the wounded in a crisis.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Sayniek has a full wand of CLW that she has not had to use yet. She also has a potion of Enlarge Person that should probably go to Kilthan or someone else who is not size small.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

I was thinking Rullis had our CLW wand. I agree about Kithian carrying the Enlarge Person. Do you want Camillo to carry the wand?


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Works for me. Sayniek has some swift healing (1d6) with LoH, and has cure spells as well.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None
Sayniek wrote:
Works for me. Sayniek has some swift healing (1d6) with LoH, and has cure spells as well.

OK - I noted the wand on my gear with your name on it.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Clever use of the water, Kithian. I like it.

The Exchange

Male Human Desk Monkey 2/ Logistics Guru 3/ Over-educated 2/Gamer 6

Sorry folks in having some issues at home. I should be back on by tomorrow and back to full presence. Apologies.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays / Happy New Year, everybody!


I want to apologize in advance that my access will be spotty through the 4th of January. Basically my family is having some issues that require more attention than anticipated and additional issues of illness add to the complication. I'll do my best to limp us along but it might be next week before we start back up in earnest, apologies.


Male Half Orc Barbarian 5/ Oracle 1/ RP 1, Perception +7, Darkvision, Fort +8/ Ref +1/ Will +3, Init +4, AC 18, HP :76

No worries.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

You need to get better and limp us along, otherwise the drunk barbarian and his sidekick wizard are going to get into no end of trouble.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

1. It is still the holiday season for many people.

2. Real life, especially family, come first.

Thanks for the update, but don't sweat it. We're fine.


I return post new year with tales of ER visits, bad backs, a child who is lucky to still be alive by his father's grace and more...oh and I updated the gameplay! Happy New Years folks.


Male Half Orc Barbarian 5/ Oracle 1/ RP 1, Perception +7, Darkvision, Fort +8/ Ref +1/ Will +3, Init +4, AC 18, HP :76

Am I close enough to grapple?


Yeah, you are basically on top of him

-Posted with Wayfinder


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

OK, I just realized that the Sihedron Amulet does not grant a +1 natural armor bonus, it grants a +1 resistance bonus to saves. Or so says the Pathfinder Community. As such, it does not stack with my shiny new cloak of resistance +1. Anyone want a cloak of resistance +1? I used prestidigitation to get all of the blood stains out of it and everything!

Low, low price of 1/2 normal! 500 gp, just for you, sir! Or you, ma'am!


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Pardon while I think out loud. I'm torn between my options and need to see them together. As always, advice is welcome even if I don't take it.

A level of bard: +1 CL, access to 2nd-level spells, two 2nd-level spells known, one 1st-level spell known, +1 Reflex, +1 Will, +1 BAB, 7 skill points

A level of rogue: Danger sense +1, Sneak Attack +1d6, Finesse Rogue (+Dex to attacks with one weapon), +1 Fortitude, +1 Will, +1 BAB, 9 skill points

If I go with rogue, I will probably sell the +1 longsword and purchase a +1 rapier and choose the rapier as my finesse weapon. I could use the dagger as my finesse weapon instead, but I'm thinking my primary weapon would be a better choice - it will also become my arcane focus when I reach Bard 5.

Of course, Improved Critical might come into play later. Spring Attack is probably next. The feat that allows you to increase your caster level if you are multiclassing could be nice - I can't remember it's name.

What do you think? Bard or Rogue? I'm leaning toward rogue at the moment, but I'm far from settled. Both classes use the same hit points, by the way: Hit points: 1d8 ⇒ 6 Useful, that!


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

HP: 1d8 ⇒ 5

Spells:
0 Level - Resistance
2nd Level - Ironskin, Cure Moderate Wounds, Fog Cloud (mystery spell)

Skills: Perception, Diplomacy, Intimidate, Handle Animal


Male Half Orc Barbarian 5/ Oracle 1/ RP 1, Perception +7, Darkvision, Fort +8/ Ref +1/ Will +3, Init +4, AC 18, HP :76

Level: Barbarian
hp: 7+2+1
Skills: 4 points :Survival,perception,Religion,Intimidate.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

6 hp gained (rolled above)

Added Unchained Rogue level 3, so +1 to BAB, +1 to Fort saves and Will saves

Skills: Acrobatics, Bluff, Diplomacy, Disable Device, Escape Artist, Perception, Sleight of Hand, Stealth, Use Magic Device

Abilities:
Danger Sense (+1 bonus to Reflex and AC vs attacks by traps; +1 to Perception to avoid being surprised)
Finesse Training (select finessable weapon; gain Dex bonus to damage rather than Str for that weapon) - selecting rapier
Sneak Attack +1d6 (for a total of 2d6)


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Does anyone want my Cloak of Resistance +1? I am not gaining anything from it.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

I'll take the cloak. Can never have high enough saves.

Want me to pay 500 to you for it?

EDIT - I subtracted 500 from my gold, add 500 to yours Cam.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Not really sure what Sayniek needs. Probably just upgrade her shield to +2. The other option is a Ring of Protection +1. She has a little over 3000 to spend if anyone has any thoughts for other options.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Thanks, Sayniek!

Camillo will purchase a rapier +1 and trade in his longsword +1 as part of the transaction. (Assuming normal prices for purchasing and selling gear)

Does Kithian still want to purchase an adamantine falchion or did he already do so? I may have some cash to make a loan...


I thought he had done it already...but he can confirm.

Cam, sorry I missed your thoughts earlier in the weekend. I was going to mention, there is a trait that does what you are looking for, I can look it up. There is an old standing paizo houserule that you could take two traits as a feat...which I would be happy to allow. Magical Knack is the name of the trait I am thinking of. If there is a feat that does that plus more then I would say take that.

I think Rogue is a good choice this level...though I say that admiring the increase in martial flexibility it gives you which is not really something you guys having been having any trouble with. THAT said you are sort of the face and the trap-man at the moment so you need to keep those skills good and polished ;p


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

I could not find the feat when I did a search. It is probably the trait of which you speak. The question is whether CL+2 is worth delaying Spring Attack and such. It would give me a bonus on Arcane Strike and give my limited spellcasting some punch, but that won't happen for another level, anyway.

I'm still kicking around the very suboptimal arcane trickster, but I think continuing as bard and rogue, probably about a bard level every two rogue levels is a stronger build - more hp, more skill points, but fewer spell levels, different special abilities...

Time to geek out and compare builds. As if I had time.

I'm looking at the Meridian Belt (allows use of four magical rings, any two at a time) and Ring of Protection +1. What do you think?


Male Human (Ulfen) Wizard (Enhancer) 2

Tsk, I don't mean to hold anything up, but suddenly I find myself a little unsure.
The original plan was to become a loremaster, but lately I've been debating either staying wizard full time or even taking a level ranger and then go Eldrich knight, I'm...undecided.


Female Assimar(Idyllkin) Oracle of Battle/4 - Paladin/2 [HP 61/61; AC27,T13,FF26; F+12,R+7,W+11; Per+7; Init +1(roll twice)]

Collegiate Archaist is another interesting PrC. You would need a few more feats, but Devon might let you retrain the Long Bow proficiency and/or Cosmopolitan for Scholar. Gives full casting, and adds some fun abilities.


Bard (Arcane Duelist) 3/UC Rogue 4 | AC 22/14/18 (uncanny dodge), hp 42/46; 10/10 Bardic; Effect: None

Do what interests you. You have not been getting involved in combat - are you wanting to, thus the Eldritch Knight? Or is Kithian just that big an influence?

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