paizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for Rd Sun's Reign of Winterpaizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for Rd Sun's Reign of Winter2024-03-18T15:32:03Z2024-03-18T15:32:03ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10452024-03-16T00:00:49Z2024-03-15T23:47:51Z<p>Ashling can see through the sleet storm, so we should let her do some damage while protected from their retaliation. Letitia is going to take flight, and hopefully stay out of the svarthurim's reach.</p>Ashling can see through the sleet storm, so we should let her do some damage while protected from their retaliation. Letitia is going to take flight, and hopefully stay out of the svarthurim's reach.Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-03-15T23:47:51ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10442024-03-15T23:00:49Z2024-03-15T22:56:02Z<p>OK so what's the plan with this fight? Goad them to come to us? Or rush them with haste? Llewellyn can use a single move action plus bladed dash to cover a lot of ground.</p>OK so what's the plan with this fight? Goad them to come to us? Or rush them with haste? Llewellyn can use a single move action plus bladed dash to cover a lot of ground.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-03-15T22:56:02ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10432024-03-12T10:38:01Z2024-03-12T00:31:49Z<p>Hopefully the week will prove to be kinder to you.</p>Hopefully the week will prove to be kinder to you.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-03-12T00:31:49ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionCallix Ingritdottir (alias of Tilnar)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10422024-03-12T10:37:59Z2024-03-11T20:50:51Z<p>Sorry to hear that.</p>Sorry to hear that.Callix Ingritdottir (alias of Tilnar)2024-03-11T20:50:51ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionSamuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10412024-03-11T11:00:46Z2024-03-11T10:55:21Z<p>Sorry for the delay, I had a non good weekend :(</p>Sorry for the delay, I had a non good weekend :(Samuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)2024-03-11T10:55:21ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionSamuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10402024-03-06T11:50:46Z2024-03-06T11:38:10Z<p>Thanks Llewellyn for trying to make that work! Dumb giants, not understanding Taldan :P</p>Thanks Llewellyn for trying to make that work! Dumb giants, not understanding Taldan :PSamuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)2024-03-06T11:38:10ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionGM My Red Sun (alias of JankInTheTank)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10392024-02-29T15:10:48Z2024-02-29T15:04:14Z<p>yeah that's fine to hold the summon spell until you're ready for it</p>yeah that's fine to hold the summon spell until you're ready for itGM My Red Sun (alias of JankInTheTank)2024-02-29T15:04:14ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10382024-02-28T21:40:46Z2024-02-28T21:31:30Z<p>No, I'd rather pull back the summon until the door opens.</p>No, I'd rather pull back the summon until the door opens.Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-28T21:31:30ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10372024-02-28T21:10:47Z2024-02-28T21:05:48Z<p>Can we agree to defer until after your summon? Around the table I'm sure we would have.</p>Can we agree to defer until after your summon? Around the table I'm sure we would have.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-28T21:05:48ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10362024-02-28T20:50:46Z2024-02-28T20:45:58Z<p>I need to know, can I pause or cancel my summon spell without losing the spell? I didn't know we weren't getting through the doors right away.</p>I need to know, can I pause or cancel my summon spell without losing the spell? I didn't know we weren't getting through the doors right away.Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-28T20:45:58ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10352024-02-10T11:01:33Z2024-02-10T10:58:24Z<p>OK thanks. I'll update his sheet later.</p>OK thanks. I'll update his sheet later.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-10T10:58:24ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionGM My Red Sun (alias of JankInTheTank)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10342024-02-09T20:40:47Z2024-02-09T20:19:37Z<p>For Llewellyn, I am fine with you redoing a feat. Sometimes that just happens, you don't read a feat all the way and end up with a stinker that doesn't synergize right. </p>
<p>As for the spells, yeah it has been a really weird string for you Letitia. Enough that I have definitely noticed it! I will say, to Samuel's comment I am not scaling these encounters at all, this AP has enough challenging fights in it that I don't see a need to pump them for a 5-player party. </p>
<p>Save-or-suck is just the world the witch class lives in, and some days it works and others (sadly a lot of them in a row) it just doesn't work as well as you hope. </p>
<p>Luckily this combat turned quite suddenly with the frightened giant, so it'll probably work out ok</p>For Llewellyn, I am fine with you redoing a feat. Sometimes that just happens, you don't read a feat all the way and end up with a stinker that doesn't synergize right.
As for the spells, yeah it has been a really weird string for you Letitia. Enough that I have definitely noticed it! I will say, to Samuel's comment I am not scaling these encounters at all, this AP has enough challenging fights in it that I don't see a need to pump them for a 5-player party.
Save-or-suck is just the world...GM My Red Sun (alias of JankInTheTank)2024-02-09T20:19:37ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionAshling_Frost-wing (alias of Archae)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10332024-02-09T14:30:47Z2024-02-09T14:24:39Z<p>I'll have a post up today, But yeah i can try. I'm no expert but i can certainly try to cast defensively. Lets see if saves are gonna be nice to me at least</p>I'll have a post up today, But yeah i can try. I'm no expert but i can certainly try to cast defensively. Lets see if saves are gonna be nice to me at leastAshling_Frost-wing (alias of Archae)2024-02-09T14:24:39ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionSamuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10322024-02-09T11:00:53Z2024-02-09T10:56:34Z<p>That looks as a great option, giants are not known by their great minds, and Ashling seems to know the Giant's tongue so they will understand her command.</p>
<p>If the giant is already frightened, the command can be redirected to the other giant.</p>
<p>Debuff and control magic really is the best way to handle these heavy hitters, a good encounter for the spellcasters to shine here.</p>That looks as a great option, giants are not known by their great minds, and Ashling seems to know the Giant's tongue so they will understand her command.
If the giant is already frightened, the command can be redirected to the other giant.
Debuff and control magic really is the best way to handle these heavy hitters, a good encounter for the spellcasters to shine here.Samuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)2024-02-09T10:56:34ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10312024-02-09T03:40:48Z2024-02-09T03:33:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ashling_Frost-wing wrote:</div><blockquote> I think... i am in a situation where I should withdraw and switch to ranged attacks. </blockquote><p>I just looked at the map and realized you're at the one we're trying to get to become Frightened (so he'll flee and won't attack). Since my Evil Eye works regardless of what he rolls, you could maybe try to <i>command</i> him to keep him from attacking just in case he throws off the Frightened condition that Llewellyn is trying to give him?Ashling_Frost-wing wrote:I think... i am in a situation where I should withdraw and switch to ranged attacks.
I just looked at the map and realized you're at the one we're trying to get to become Frightened (so he'll flee and won't attack). Since my Evil Eye works regardless of what he rolls, you could maybe try to command him to keep him from attacking just in case he throws off the Frightened condition that Llewellyn is trying to give him?Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-09T03:33:36ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10302024-02-08T02:39:19Z2024-02-08T02:34:58Z<p>Withdrawing won't work very well. You'll get an AoO because of their 10' reach. </p>
<p>Best bet is to hope that between you, Callix, and Samuel you bring it down and the other one becomes frightened.</p>Withdrawing won't work very well. You'll get an AoO because of their 10' reach.
Best bet is to hope that between you, Callix, and Samuel you bring it down and the other one becomes frightened.Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-08T02:34:58ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionAshling_Frost-wing (alias of Archae)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10292024-02-08T02:09:20Z2024-02-08T02:06:30Z<p>I think... i am in a situation where I should withdraw and switch to ranged attacks.</p>I think... i am in a situation where I should withdraw and switch to ranged attacks.Ashling_Frost-wing (alias of Archae)2024-02-08T02:06:30ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10282024-02-08T00:49:20Z2024-02-08T00:38:09Z<p>It's up to GM My Red sun if Llewellyn can adjust his level up feats, but I think a little party synergy wouldn't hurt. At some point I may pick up arcane concordance too.</p>It's up to GM My Red sun if Llewellyn can adjust his level up feats, but I think a little party synergy wouldn't hurt. At some point I may pick up arcane concordance too.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-08T00:38:09ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionSamuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10272024-02-08T00:19:19Z2024-02-08T00:07:39Z<p>Riving Strike and demoralizing will help a lot Llewellyn if you can squeeze them naturally on your progress.</p>
<p>This is why many people hate save or die spells. They tend to be terribly frustrating. You either ruin it for the GM or for the player, and things get worse if the GM is scaling the fights to maintain the challenge, the DC spells are the first thing that suffers from that, or if the player is scaling his character to maximize DCs, which also can ruin the fun for everyone.</p>Riving Strike and demoralizing will help a lot Llewellyn if you can squeeze them naturally on your progress.
This is why many people hate save or die spells. They tend to be terribly frustrating. You either ruin it for the GM or for the player, and things get worse if the GM is scaling the fights to maintain the challenge, the DC spells are the first thing that suffers from that, or if the player is scaling his character to maximize DCs, which also can ruin the fun for everyone.Samuel Soulkeeper (alias of Balacertar)2024-02-08T00:07:39ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10262024-02-07T21:25:45Z2024-02-07T21:19:27Z<p>I'd be happy to defer so you can give that a shot.</p>I'd be happy to defer so you can give that a shot.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-07T21:19:27ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10252024-02-07T21:16:10Z2024-02-07T21:13:18Z<p>If given a warning, Llewellyn, I could Evil Eye your target ahead of time and give him a -4 to saves</p>If given a warning, Llewellyn, I could Evil Eye your target ahead of time and give him a -4 to savesLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-07T21:13:18ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10242024-02-07T21:15:44Z2024-02-07T21:11:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Llewellyn the Bold wrote:</div><blockquote> Re using scathing tirade. Bit of a gamble that, but the giant has a bad will save... </blockquote><p>A bad will save only matters if you don't roll high.Llewellyn the Bold wrote:Re using scathing tirade. Bit of a gamble that, but the giant has a bad will save...
A bad will save only matters if you don't roll high.Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-07T21:11:09ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLetitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10232024-02-07T21:15:44Z2024-02-07T21:10:13Z<p>Like Callix said, I could spend actions lowering saves with Evil Eye or Misfortune, but that gives opponents rounds to act and do damage or get off spells of their own. In this fight, if I had started with the Slumber it would have worked, but I got greedy and tried the <i>charm</i>. Then he followed up with a nat 20 against my hex which has a much higher save DC. Just bad luck for me all around, and it means everyone else is getting hammered by these giants.</p>
<p>I'm sure the party'll survive, but we could realistically take a casualty if we don't manage to kill one this round. Even if we don't, it's really frustrating because I think we'll need to fall back and take another day of rest to recover hp because our front liners are getting hammered.</p>
<p>Having other ways to lower opponents' saves could help, though.</p>Like Callix said, I could spend actions lowering saves with Evil Eye or Misfortune, but that gives opponents rounds to act and do damage or get off spells of their own. In this fight, if I had started with the Slumber it would have worked, but I got greedy and tried the charm. Then he followed up with a nat 20 against my hex which has a much higher save DC. Just bad luck for me all around, and it means everyone else is getting hammered by these giants.
I'm sure the party'll survive, but we...Letitia Frost (alias of Stalwart)2024-02-07T21:10:13ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10222024-02-07T21:15:44Z2024-02-07T21:09:45Z<p>Re using scathing tirade. Bit of a gamble that, but the giant has a bad will save...</p>Re using scathing tirade. Bit of a gamble that, but the giant has a bad will save...Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-07T21:09:45ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Red Sun's Reign of Winter DiscussionLlewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)https://paizo.com/campaigns/RedSunsReignOfWinter/discussion&page=21#10212024-02-08T00:02:58Z2024-02-07T20:43:56Z<p>Yeah about that Letitia... I realized I made a mistake taking Hurtful, it uses a swift action which arcane strike does too.</p>
<p>I wonder if I could/should switch to <a href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/riving-strike-combat/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Riving Strike</a>? That'd help you. Also Llewellyn has cornugon smash which I tend to forget, but if I was to land a demoralize the that's potentially a stacking -4 to their saves.</p>Yeah about that Letitia... I realized I made a mistake taking Hurtful, it uses a swift action which arcane strike does too.
I wonder if I could/should switch to Riving Strike? That'd help you. Also Llewellyn has cornugon smash which I tend to forget, but if I was to land a demoralize the that's potentially a stacking -4 to their saves.Llewellyn the Bold (alias of FangDragon)2024-02-07T20:43:56Z