Nightflier's Midnight Game Thread

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Set in the grim world of Aryth, Nightflier's Midnight is a game that speaks of almost futile hope that shines against the darkness.


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Would the spending of a Fate Point relieve our characters of the Fatigues condition?


Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:

What you said brings up an interesting point though, something i hadn't thought about.

Demons, being "creatures of both worlds" pose an interesting situation for Ragnar.

The Midnight book says that outsiders, when destroyed, go to the spirit realm until such time as they can make themselves a new physical body, and are subject to all the same rules as the Trapped (all other spirits). Possessor Demons, like Ugly and Astiraxes, never get to leave the spirit realm. They just puppet corporeal creatures. A lot of abilities can effect a possessor without harming or effecting the host.

This makes me think that if ghosts and spirits have the ability to effect each other (which in most cases they do) that Sky'tor, Anvinder and Eyvinder are actually in a unique position to be able to help kick the Demon's but and possibly free the queen.

Might be a fun opportunity for Scranford, Gabboge and Twiceborn to temporarily reprise their fallen characters and just post their actions in spoilers or something. :)

Bump this topic for sure.

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Chops the Defender Dworg wrote:

nightflier.

Would the spending of a Fate Point relieve our characters of the Fatigues condition?

I think not.

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Guys, I have reworked Traits section in my profile. Please check it out. For now, there are only two ways for you to get more than two traits: to exchange your Background Bonus Feat for a trait or to take character disadvantages. The thing is, there is only one disadvantage right now (that I have worked out, anyway) - Powerful Enemy. You are all considered to have it already, so when you modify your characters, take that into consideration and choose another trait from the list.


Sorry for the threadjack.

Nightflier, everyone else is ready to restart the master's forge game. Have you thought about your character ?

Llaelian/Gilian/Vardara


nightflier wrote:
Guys, I have reworked Traits section in my profile. Please check it out. For now, there are only two ways for you to get more than two traits: to exchange your Background Bonus Feat for a trait or to take character disadvantages. The thing is, there is only one disadvantage right now (that I have worked out, anyway) - Powerful Enemy. You are all considered to have it already, so when you modify your characters, take that into consideration and choose another trait from the list.

Have you seen the drawbacks in Tome of Secrets?

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Llaelian wrote:

Sorry for the threadjack.

Nightflier, everyone else is ready to restart the master's forge game. Have you thought about your character ?

Llaelian/Gilian/Vardara

Yeah, I'm gonna play rogue. And I'll be ready to post tomorrow morning.

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Chops the Defender Dworg wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Guys, I have reworked Traits section in my profile. Please check it out. For now, there are only two ways for you to get more than two traits: to exchange your Background Bonus Feat for a trait or to take character disadvantages. The thing is, there is only one disadvantage right now (that I have worked out, anyway) - Powerful Enemy. You are all considered to have it already, so when you modify your characters, take that into consideration and choose another trait from the list.
Have you seen the drawbacks in Tome of Secrets?

I have the book, but I haven't read it yet. I'm gonna take a look.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2

Those traits seem to be far more powerful than the one's I've seen before. I haven't read the traits from Iron Heores, but if Weapon Bond is any example, I'm guessing they're all like that.

You mentioned that we'd be getting an in-game time to rework our characters to take advantage of the APG some time soon. When that happens, would you mind if I replaced Animal Bond? It's never come into play, and since I got it mostly to be able to interact easier with the Wolves (who are becoming more and more Spirit-y in nature as they are referenced) I'm thinking it was kind of a wasted trait.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2

Also, do we have our bonus feats immediately?

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Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:

Those traits seem to be far more powerful than the one's I've seen before. I haven't read the traits from Iron Heores, but if Weapon Bond is any example, I'm guessing they're all like that.

You mentioned that we'd be getting an in-game time to rework our characters to take advantage of the APG some time soon. When that happens, would you mind if I replaced Animal Bond? It's never come into play, and since I got it mostly to be able to interact easier with the Wolves (who are becoming more and more Spirit-y in nature as they are referenced) I'm thinking it was kind of a wasted trait.

Most of them are just transcribed from Iron Heroes, almost word for word. I don't have any problems with you replacing Animal Bond. In fact, this will be the last possibility for all of you to remake your characters, so you can do pretty much whatever you want.

As always, you can apply changes to your characters - and that includes bonus feat - after the first resting time.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2

Regarding what's going on with Gilian, I think some things have gotten confused.

If I read right, Sorok was essentially spending his last round refocusing (setting himself to the top of the initiative) so that he could hold his action to protect Gilian.

To me that was clearly his intent, even if he didn't phrase it in proper rules terminology.

Here's the rules on Cover-

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering---final/combat---final#TOC-Cover

Based on my reading, Sorok is acting as a medium-sized object, which Gilian is behind. This, at minimum, gives her a +4 AC bonus.

If Sorok is big enough to provide Full Cover, which considering he is bigger, has a shield, and is trying to actively be in the way, he should be, then the ranged fighters should not have been able to make an attack on her.

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I forgot that he has a large shield, but that doesn't really have a large impact. Since she was moving and healing, I decided that she has only partial cover.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2

Damn. Will he be able to provide full cover if he does something different, or is this as good as he can provide?

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Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
Damn. Will he be able to provide full cover if he does something different, or is this as good as he can provide?

If she stays at one place, then he will provide full cover for her. If they move, then he will provide partial cover. If he had tower shield, he would provide full cover. If there were two persons with large shields, she would have full cover.

If Sorok had a crossbow, he could provide cover for Gilian and still attack, with a penalty for using crossbow one handed, though.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2
nightflier wrote:
Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
Damn. Will he be able to provide full cover if he does something different, or is this as good as he can provide?

If she stays at one place, then he will provide full cover for her. If they move, then he will provide partial cover. If he had tower shield, he would provide full cover. If there were two persons with large shields, she would have full cover.

If Sorok had a crossbow, he could provide cover for Gilian and still attack, with a penalty for using crossbow one handed, though.

Since he refocused (he did, right?) that puts him at the top of the order. If he then holds for Gilian, acting simultaneously, would he be able to provide full cover while moving?

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Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
Damn. Will he be able to provide full cover if he does something different, or is this as good as he can provide?

If she stays at one place, then he will provide full cover for her. If they move, then he will provide partial cover. If he had tower shield, he would provide full cover. If there were two persons with large shields, she would have full cover.

If Sorok had a crossbow, he could provide cover for Gilian and still attack, with a penalty for using crossbow one handed, though.

Since he refocused (he did, right?) that puts him at the top of the order. If he then holds for Gilian, acting simultaneously, would he be able to provide full cover while moving?

I don't know. There are whole classes dedicated to something like that. I'll do a research tonight and address this issue tomorrow.


Female Erenlander Spiritual Chaneller 5

Thanks for the information Nightflier. I did not take into account the fact that you could add Weapon bond Damage to crossbow as you can't add any strength damage to them.

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My internet research brought nothing that can solve our dilemma, so I turned to Paizo's board for advice. Here is the link to the thread. So far, it seems that my original ruling stands.

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Gilian wrote:
Thanks for the information Nightflier. I did not take into account the fact that you could add Weapon bond Damage to crossbow as you can't add any strength damage to them.

No worries. I am always ready to explain my decisions. This fight is very tactical, so it made sense to eliminate you first.


Male Danisil - Evil Subtype Wildlander/1 Rogue/2

Sorry, my internet connection is being a right arse, goes down every 10 minutes. Should be sorted out by the evening though.

1st missed round:
Anang moves up between the party and the crossbowmen, muttering as he goes and more thick white fog billows out, concealing the group in it's billowing embrace. Seeing as I am pretty much at the bottom of the initiative the fog wouldn't really take effect until this new turn. But now a 40ft cloud bank is providing concealment from the crossbowmen.

2nd Round:I'll put this action down now in case my connection goes again but I guess disregard it if the remaining soldiers are down before my turn comes around.
Anang runs back toward the group, coming up behind one of the soldiers and hacking at the backs of his legs, in attempt to bring him down quickly.

Attack +2 bab +2 flanking +3 dex 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (19) + 7 = 261d6 + 4 + 1d6 ⇒ (5) + 4 + (3) = 12

Argh Damn it, wrong thread.

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Sorry for disappearing. My internet connection went down. I'm back now.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2
nightflier wrote:
Sorry for disappearing. My internet connection went down. I'm back now.

I was starting to worry a bit. I don't think the game has *ever* had that much down time.

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Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Sorry for disappearing. My internet connection went down. I'm back now.
I was starting to worry a bit. I don't think the game has *ever* had that much down time.

I think it had during that eruption in Island, but I had an opportunity to post something from the airport even then. This time it was total internet shutdown for me.


Male Danisil - Evil Subtype Wildlander/1 Rogue/2

Disappearing again for skate related gubbins. Should be back Sunday.

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Damn internet was acting up again. Sorry.

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Okay, guys - I know that you do not want for me to introduce new PCs into the game, but I think that Kiron's absence hurts the group. This game was conceived around nine PCs and I want that number to remain, despite the fact that most games have no more than 6 PCs. This is not just because of mechanical reasons - it has a greater purpose in the story, but that will be revealed much later. Now, we have core players - those who are here from the beginning and who are most active:

Ilona
Solvi
Ragnar
Gil
Chops

and later additions

Sorok
Anang
Lanik
Kiron

Kiron has disappeared on us - and I am really sorry because of that. His character was promising. Very promising, in fact. Also, he was another Bonebearer. Now, I will introduce another character into this game. The PC will be played by a friend of mine and it will probably be Erenlander Male Fighter, but I am waiting on him for more details. If he fails to create the character or changes his mind, I will create a DM PC to fill in the spot. Divine Shadow is also on the backlist for playing, so I'm gonna let him have his chance at some point. One thing of note - there will be no new Bonebearers. Members of the original group have bonded in such a way that I am stunned. I have not seen anything like that in most of my RL games, and certainly not in pbp. It reminds me of the Ptolus game in which Ilona was a sword sister to my character, Litorian Paladin Num-Rah. Anyway, there will be no new bearers of the white bone, but I need this game to have nine characters.

There is one thing more: You should have realized by now that you are still hunted by that legate and his orcs that have followed you to the ruined tower at the beginning of the game - and you still have to find the next stepping stone. After you finish with what you are doing here, you will be transported deeper into the mountains and to the next stage of the game. You will all be at least 3rd level. At that point, I would like to intensify the game and to return it to the posting rate of our first few months. Is this acceptibile to all of us?


Male Black Blood Dwarf Fighter 5

Well I know that I wasn't here during the first few months but I would like to see it move along a bit faster.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2

Faster is fine with me. I'll keep up.

As for more players, I like our current group and I always worry about introducing unknowns into a good dynamic, but if it's a friend of yours my concerns are a lot less.


Female Erenlander Spiritual Chaneller 5

Everything you say makes sense. Go ahead, it's been a very enjoyable game for me so far.


Female Human (Sarcosan) Fighter 2/ Chaneller 3

Agreed on all counts.


Hey, we need all the help we can get, he he.

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Guys, it seems to me that humans in this group are all one feat short. It seems that those bonus feat stated in Midnight Campaign Setting are in addition to the 1st level feat that everyone can take. Please take that into consideration when you modify your characters.


nightflier. I know I asked earlier but you may have missed it. I was thinking the dworgs should get orc ferocity, since that was an upgrade from 3.5 to Pathfinder for half-orcs, and well, Chops is a half-orc after all.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2
nightflier wrote:
Guys, it seems to me that humans in this group are all one feat short. It seems that those bonus feat stated in Midnight Campaign Setting are in addition to the 1st level feat that everyone can take. Please take that into consideration when you modify your characters.

Nope, Ragnar's right on his feat count, sadly. You got me all excited there for a second.

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Chops the Defender Dworg wrote:
nightflier. I know I asked earlier but you may have missed it. I was thinking the dworgs should get orc ferocity, since that was an upgrade from 3.5 to Pathfinder for half-orcs, and well, Chops is a half-orc after all.

I was planing on giving you Toothy from APG. It seems better deal to me.


nightflier wrote:
Chops the Defender Dworg wrote:
nightflier. I know I asked earlier but you may have missed it. I was thinking the dworgs should get orc ferocity, since that was an upgrade from 3.5 to Pathfinder for half-orcs, and well, Chops is a half-orc after all.
I was planing on giving you Toothy from APG. It seems better deal to me.

Hahaha his name is Chops and he has big teeth! Awesome! Thanks!

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Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Guys, it seems to me that humans in this group are all one feat short. It seems that those bonus feat stated in Midnight Campaign Setting are in addition to the 1st level feat that everyone can take. Please take that into consideration when you modify your characters.
Nope, Ragnar's right on his feat count, sadly. You got me all excited there for a second.

I was rechecking you because of High Duke's character and noticed that Ilona and Gilian seem a bit feat-light. But I am having a migraine so I may be imagining things.


Female Erenlander Spiritual Chaneller 5
nightflier wrote:
Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Guys, it seems to me that humans in this group are all one feat short. It seems that those bonus feat stated in Midnight Campaign Setting are in addition to the 1st level feat that everyone can take. Please take that into consideration when you modify your characters.
Nope, Ragnar's right on his feat count, sadly. You got me all excited there for a second.
I was rechecking you because of High Duke's character and noticed that Ilona and Gilian seem a bit feat-light. But I am having a migraine so I may be imagining things.

I think Gilian is fine as well. One of the differences with Ragnar is that we are only second level.

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Gilian wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:
nightflier wrote:
Guys, it seems to me that humans in this group are all one feat short. It seems that those bonus feat stated in Midnight Campaign Setting are in addition to the 1st level feat that everyone can take. Please take that into consideration when you modify your characters.
Nope, Ragnar's right on his feat count, sadly. You got me all excited there for a second.
I was rechecking you because of High Duke's character and noticed that Ilona and Gilian seem a bit feat-light. But I am having a migraine so I may be imagining things.
I think Gilian is fine as well. One of the differences with Ragnar is that we are only second level.

Erenlanders get 3 feats at first level.


nightflier wrote:
I was planing on giving you Toothy from APG. It seems better deal to me.

Ok, questions about Toothy.

It gives a Primary Bite attack at 1d4 damage. Does this mean that he gets an extra attack on top of his regular attacks?

Also, his unarmed strike damage is 1d6. Can a bite attack count as an unarmed strike or are they totally separate things?

Thanks y'all.

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Chops the Defender Dworg wrote:
nightflier wrote:
I was planing on giving you Toothy from APG. It seems better deal to me.

Ok, questions about Toothy.

It gives a Primary Bite attack at 1d4 damage. Does this mean that he gets an extra attack on top of his regular attacks?

Also, his unarmed strike damage is 1d6. Can a bite attack count as an unarmed strike or are they totally separate things?

Thanks y'all.

they are separate thing. Bite is attack made with your highest BaB but it can qualify you for Multiattack


Female Erenlander Spiritual Chaneller 5

I think Gilian is fine as well. One of the differences with Ragnar is that we are only second level. Erenlanders get 3 feats at first level.

That's what she got: Herbalism, Toughness and Self-sufficient.

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Gilian wrote:
I think Gilian is fine as well. One of the differences with Ragnar is that we are only second level.
Erenlanders get 3 feats at first level. That's what she got: Herbalism, Toughness and Self-sufficient.

Okay then. I just don't want for anybody to be slighted.


Male Black Blood Dwarf Fighter 5

Well let's not forget the bonus *Toughness* feat we all get for the post count.

** (Don't forget those of you with Toughness already get a feat of your choosing.)


Hi, guys. Just checking in to prove that I actually exist :D I'm new to pbp, and new to Pathfinder (but a long time 3ed player). I'll my character soon, and it will be, like Nightflier said, an Erenlander Pureblood Fighter. All suggestions and remarks are welcome, since I probably do need a bit of help in the beginning. And I have A LOT of catching up to do, because the number of the pages you guys have written is a bit intimidating.

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Sorok Hamfael wrote:

Well let's not forget the bonus *Toughness* feat we all get for the post count.

** (Don't forget those of you with Toughness already get a feat of your choosing.)

As soon as you are rested, you can apply the changes.


male Dorn Barbarian 2, Spiritual Channeler 2
High Duke wrote:
Hi, guys. Just checking in to prove that I actually exist :D I'm new to pbp, and new to Pathfinder (but a long time 3ed player). I'll my character soon, and it will be, like Nightflier said, an Erenlander Pureblood Fighter. All suggestions and remarks are welcome, since I probably do need a bit of help in the beginning. And I have A LOT of catching up to do, because the number of the pages you guys have written is a bit intimidating.

Welcome to the game.

Honestly, you might be better served with a short summery, or from reading the campaign chronicle I've been writing (new update coming soon, everyone). Chewing through that much backstory is pretty daunting.

Also, depending on your character, it might be a good idea not to read much background info at all. If your character doesn't know what's happened in the game so far, you might not want to either. Keeps the surprises interesting.

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HD's character will be introduced at a later point in the game. Perhaps he will be a warrior seeking a blacksmith to make him a sword? I don't know right now really.


Ragnar Death-Speaker wrote:


Welcome to the game.

Honestly, you might be better served with a short summery, or from reading the campaign chronicle I've been writing (new update coming soon, everyone). Chewing through that much backstory is pretty daunting.

Also, depending on your character, it might be a good idea not to read much background info at all. If your character doesn't know what's happened in the game so far, you might not want to either. Keeps the surprises interesting.

Thanks, glad to be here. Well, here is my character outline(It's still work in progress)

Erenlander, 3rd level fighter

Str: 14
Dex: 13
Con: 14
Int: 13
Wis: 10
Cha: 20

Heroic Path: Pureblood

Traits: Weaponbond and Charismatic. Still not sure about the third one, maybe Child of the Road)

Feats(should have 8 of them, and maybe one more background):

Weapon Focus
Shield Focus
Power Attack
Cleave
Toughness
Magecraft
Dodge? > Mobility?
Any suggestions? There are not many feats for such a low level character

Skills: 29 ranks

Diplomacy
Ride
Jump
Swim
Handle Animal
Intimidate
Perform
Speak Language (if I don't take Child of the Road)
Perception
Knowledge(history)and something else.

I should also get 4 ranks in one Craft because I'm an Eren, but I want to see if there is some Craft skill you guys are lacking?

I will be using a bastard sword, so Weaponbond gives me the feat for it, and there is also weapon proficiency with Sarcosan Lances.

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