Level 3 for Ezren.
BAB +1
Reflex Save +1
Channel power +1d6
Spells: +1 1st level spell,
..... +1 2nd level spell
..... +1 bonus 2nd level spell
..... +1 2nd level Domain spell
Feat: Scribe Scroll
Skills: +1 to all
... Diplomacy
... Knowledge Religion
... Perception
... Sense Motive
Purchases:
... Holy water x8 = 200g
... Share of the CLW wand = 187g
... I will be crafting scrolls with some of my money.
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I should state that no one should feel compelled to donate. Jimmy did exceed the "average" value by over 1,000gp.
I'm not going to stop anyone from contributing, but I am pointing out that fact in case you all missed it. Yes, it might be important for Jimmy to have that gear, but still, I believe that wasy Jimmy's way of trying to make it a bit more fair by donating a CLW wand himself to the group.
Ezren: I assume you'll hold the 50 charge wand? Domino has the 11 charge wand, that way someone will always have a chance?
I remember someone saying have the wand at the safehouse. That won't be necessary, as Ariel can heal you there.
I will be giving everyone 2 Holy Waters after I make them.
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Okay, that should do it for characters. I'm waiting to hear back on one more minor thing, but essentially we are done.
I will leave the loot sheet up a couple more days until everything is cleared up, then it will be reset.
Feel free to stay in downtime mode. I don't want to rush you guys. We'll get going soon enough.
I want to make these scrolls:
... 0 level: Create Water x 2, Stablize x 2 = 50g
... 1 level: Magic Weapon x 2 = 50
... 2 level: Remove Paralyze, Lesser Restoration = 300g
... Parchment and Ink 20g
Total cost = 420g
Please check my numbers thanks.
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I want to make these scrolls:
... 0 level: Create Water x 2, Stablize x 2 = 50g
... 1 level: Magic Weapon x 2 = 50
... 2 level: Remove Paralyze, Lesser Restoration = 300gTotal cost = 400g
Please check my numbers thanks.
Yes, those are fine. I believe the only time it's not the standard is when there is a pricey component cost to the scroll, like Consecrate.
Edit: buy Ink please since it's not inconsequential at 8gp.
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I shouldn't answer anything as I go to bed. But, why are you paying for the scrolls if you have the scribe scroll feat? Other than the ink, there shouldn't be a cost. Am I missing something?
In Pathfinder there is a gold piece cost attached to any crafting performed (scrolls ostensibly to cover cost of magic paper and ink) versus the D&D 3.X systems which had an XP cost. It is just part of the crafting rules.
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So....I'm still stumped. So, I head over to the item creation feats section of the website and the "cost" to make a scroll is:
Base price = spell level × caster level × 25 gp.
Okay, that's simple enough, but I don't "get" it, because that's the same as the price of the scroll (per game master guide). Even creating a 1st level wand suggests the price to make it is 750gp (and of course the wand of CLW is 750gp). Thus, why bother? If the cost of making it is the same as the price of selling it, what's the point?
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The cost for creation is half the base price for all magic items.
Sale of new items would be full, sale of "used" items ie loot is half...unless you home rule in economics.
Huh? Isn't that what I just said. So, why does it cost 750gp to make a wand when it sells for 750gp? Same thing for scrolls. Why is the price of making them the same as you can buy them?
I know crafting other things is done at 50%, but why are scrolls, wands, etc. cost the same to make as to buy?
I should state that no one should feel compelled to donate. Jimmy did exceed the "average" value by over 1,000gp.
I'm not going to stop anyone from contributing, but I am pointing out that fact in case you all missed it. Yes, it might be important for Jimmy to have that gear, but still, I believe that wasy Jimmy's way of trying to make it a bit more fair by donating a CLW wand himself to the group.
Ezren: I assume you'll hold the 50 charge wand? Domino has the 11 charge wand, that way someone will always have a chance?
I remember someone saying have the wand at the safehouse. That won't be necessary, as Ariel can heal you there.
It was indeed to make up for the difference in value, but I'll thank anyone who wants to contribute anyway!
I agree Ezren's probably the person who should be holding the wand, seeing how Jimmy's usually on the front line.
Jimmy's most recent post is a bit large, but I was hoping I could provide a nice connection to the next book we'll be playing. I believe going to Limehouse Theater is beneficial for both the main story, and in this way also for Jimmy's personal story.
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The cost for creation is half the base price for all magic items.
Sale of new items would be full, sale of "used" items ie loot is half...unless you home rule in economics.
"To create a scroll, a character needs a supply of choice writing materials, the cost of which is subsumed in the cost for scribing the scroll: 12.5 gp × the level of the spell × the level of the caster.
Purchase price for scrolls is 25gp x spell lvl x caster lvl
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Ahhh, okay, man that table is terrible. It should be labeled price per scroll, not the cost, that's why I was so confused. Especially under the subject making a scroll. Price and cost are two different things.
Thus, the cost for Ezren is actually 220, not 420. I'm going to adjust my file for that change.
Totally b@%$!@&#ting here Any man who is so <<censored>> likely enjoys having it performed on himself...just saying.
Ow!
My virgin ears! Things are getting real.
Done.
This week's my preparation week for the last exam week of this college year. I'll still try to make at least 1 post a day. I thought I should let you know, in case I'm absent for a day.
I'll also let you know that I'll be on vacation from July 8 - 26, and won't have internet access during the entire vacation.
Done. Could do more if people have something to do, and will respond more to Domino when I get hoome, but ready to move on.
Well thats gonna be a problem. How do you want to handle it?
We'll have to see at which point in the game we are at that moment. I think there are 2 options: someone else (player or GM) controls Jimmy while I'm gone, or Jimmy takes a temporary leave from the game.
Does anyone accept his offer to read some lines? Obviously you can do whatever you want as well. If you decide to read lines, feel free to roll your acting skill. Anyone can do this, not just Corey/Jimmy.
What skills are appropriate for, uh, acting? Is something more artistic (dancing or jumping or whatever) appropriate?
Bluff? Diplomacy? Or only Prof: Acting?
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Depends on what you do I suppose. He's asking if you wish to read lines. He'll provide you something to read. Or, you can bluff and just pretend you know some lines. You can be diplomatic and tell him how wonderful a director he is that he can make an untrained person into a great actor.
Those are just a few options.
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Each of you should have the script in your PM.
As you will see, the only part you have is your part, but you know when the others are supposed to say or do something. Thus, you'll have to follow the gameplay posts with your script to know when to post what.
Now, clearly this is something that was meant to be rehearsed and performed around a table, not for play-by-post. Thus, I have modified how we will do it.
Your performance as a group will determine how much money and Fame points you receive. Should you succeed at 100%, the payoff will be 1.5x in gold coin the recommended coin for level 3. If you goof up some, you'll get 1.0x. If you screw up a lot, 0.75x. If you abuse your powers or harm the audience (more on that in a minute), 0.5x. If you all die, well, then you get 0x and it won't really matter.
So, what determines success:
1) How many of you survive (full success is all 4 of you, obviously)
2) Do you remember to post the correct post at the correct time? This requires some paying attention to where we are in the play and making sure you post your lines. Thus, if you are not going to be able to post, you absolutely need to inform me of that situation ahead of time. Otherwise, I will penalize you for failing to recognize it is your turn to post.
3) You may not use powers that don't match what the character would do. Thus, pulling out a wand of healing and using it before the scene is over would constitute a power that isn't in the play. You should try to save it for in between scenes. This also means significant breaks in character will also be penalized.
4) Causing any injury to an audience member automatically puts you at 0.5x coin and the play is considered a disaster. You will also lose fame points for this. So, be aware of this fact.
Now, about your acting skills. Superior acting skills are rewarded. At the end of each ACT, please roll your acting skills. Acting skills will boost your performance rating. Thus, if there are some screw ups or someone dies along the way, solid acting rolls will negate some of those mistakes. A DC 20 will negate one mistake, a DC 25 will negate 2 mistakes, and DC30 will negate 3 mistakes. Both Corey and Jimmy can roll, since they have the skills. I will take whichever is highest.
Now, high rolls form prior ACTS can negate mistakes in future ACTS. So, it's a cumulative kind of thing. No roll nor any cumulative amount can overcome causing an injury to the audience. That is an automatic disaster and epic failure that cannot be overcome.
I probably haven't thought of everything, so ask questions here. I'm trying to convert an obvious plot that would work well in a table-top setting to something that works via play by post. I think it's an interesting twist and we'll all see how this works.
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2) Do you remember to post the correct post at the correct time? This requires some paying attention to where we are in the play and making sure you post your lines. Thus, if you are not going to be able to post, you absolutely need to inform me of that situation ahead of time. Otherwise, I will penalize you for failing to recognize it is your turn to post.
Now I do work most everyday, including Saturday and Sunday. As such I've printed a hard copy to type along with as I can but what kind of time frame (frequency) are we expecting? Also I am on EST for those who differ, since I'll notice when I go to be by 9-10p and wake up about 5a and find 6 posts over the night (and that's just been over the past little bit).
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I'm thinking 24 hours maximum waiting time.
So, once Thesling does his Haanderthan part, you have 24 hours to post your lines/actions, and then Tristain would have 24 hours from your post to post his lines/actions. So, the maximum amount of time in between posts would be 24 hours. If 24 hours goes by when you were to have made a post, I will assume your character lost track of his place in the script and Robahl will have to yell at you from offstage to get you to speak your lines.
So, that's the maximum obviously. Thus, it behooves folks to look at the thread once a day, compare the gameplay thread to their script. If they aren't up, they can look at the thread the next day and still make the deadline.
I hope with a 24 hour window, it won't matter where you are in the world. If you're going to be unavailable for 24 hours, then just let me know. I don't want this game to drag, but at the same time I don't want to penalize folks for pushing the game too fast. This is a fast paced game, but it doesn't need to be warp speed.
Too fast? Too slow? Just right? We'll see.
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I've added the primary actors and their roles to the spoiler above the forum, just to make it easier to remember who is who.
I've also created a preliminary Nightshade Theater Map for Act 1. Please consider the seats full of people. I dont' want to overload the map with icons....
I'am really sorry guys but I have to leave the game. I found out today that my job will be relocating. I have to move and finish my remodel on my current house very fast. Thanks for the gaming guys wish you all good luck.
I'am really sorry guys but I have to leave the game. I found out today that my job will be relocating. I have to move and finish my remodel on my current house very fast. Thanks for the gaming guys wish you all good luck.
Sorry to see you go, Ez. I needed you. Best of luck with new job.
Anyone know how I can NPC him? I've gone to edit campaign and put a check mark next to Ezren's name to NPC, but how do I post as him. I've seen this done before in another campaign, but I never asked how he did it.
Tristain: hmmm....http://paizo.com/campaigns/HeroesOfWestcrown/discussion&page=11 #538
Tristain: have you a solution to that?GM Verdigris: When I dropped in for you guys, I made a name that was very similar and picked the same avatar.
Tristain: Yeah, but I don't think that's what he's asking.
GM Verdigris: I don't think he can take over the character.
Tristain:yeah, that's what I think.
GM Verdigris: I've seen it done at other sites, but not with the way Paizo locks in characters at 10 posts.
GM Verdigris: I would say go ask whoever he saw do it.
GM Verdigris: My guess is that they didn't do it, but used one of the vowel alternatives to make a name that was very very close.
I don't think it's possible.
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Good luck Ez.
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Ezren was the GM in the game that took over a character as an NPC when that guy quit. So, not sure how he did it.
As for what to do, I'm baffled. There are a few options.
Option #1) I NPC Ezren or one of you play Ezren, and we blast through the play as much as we can before Jimmy goes bye-bye to his Jihadist training camp for a few weeks, where the Internet is banned (hahaha, I was trying to think of where there is no Internet, and all I could think of was Derka-Derkastan). Once the play is done, we recruit a new player.
Option #2) We recruit a new player right away, but this pushes the play out longer, thus Jimmy will most certainly be away during most of it, so we'll have to NPC him for the vast majority of the play. As you see from the documents, Jimmy's character doesn't even start until Act 2.
Option #3) We put the game on hold through mid-July. We can then recruit someone and start the play when Jimmy returns from Derka-Derkastan. How thrilled someone will be to jump into a play like atmosphere is unknown. This is why I'm thinking it would be better to do it after the play when you explore the Asmodean Knot, which obviously is more traditional dungeon exploration.
I must say, this really sucks. Every single online campaign I've been in falls apart, and I'm trying my best to actually push through an entire AP. GMs disappear most of the time or go bonkers. Ezren not only was a player here, but a GM in another campaign, so this killed 1 campaign and put a big dent in this one.
I'm frustrated. This one-two punch is rough. It's nobody's fault, but doesn't make it easier. Let me know what you want to do.
Option #1) I NPC Ezren or one of you play Ezren, and we blast through the play as much as we can before Jimmy goes bye-bye to his Jihadist training camp for a few weeks, where the Internet is banned (hahaha, I was trying to think of where there is no Internet, and all I could think of was Derka-Derkastan). Once the play is done, we recruit a new player.
Option #2) We recruit a new player right away, but this pushes the play out longer, thus Jimmy will most certainly be away during most of it, so we'll have to NPC him for the vast majority of the play. As you see from the documents, Jimmy's character doesn't even start until Act 2.
Option #3) We put the game on hold through mid-July. We can then recruit someone and start the play when Jimmy returns from Derka-Derkastan. How thrilled someone will be to jump into a play like atmosphere is unknown. This is why I'm thinking it would be better to do it after the play when you explore the Asmodean Knot, which obviously is more traditional dungeon exploration.
I'm frustrated. This one-two punch is rough. It's nobody's fault, but doesn't make it easier. Let me know what you want to do.
I agree this is frustrating, but it's better that he left on his own rather than slowing things down. I know you really want to push and run (I do too), but it's hard when you don't have players who have the same commitment.
If I'm voting, I go for #2: find another player. I've sent you names in the past, GM CC, and can do so again.
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Okay, I'm working on a recruitment thread.
I just realized that if I recruit from today to say July 2, pick the person on July 3, we have the holiday to deal with. Once the holiday weekend is over, Jimmy's gone to Derka-Derkastan. It's extremely unfortunate, as I know Jimmy was really looking forward to doing this play.
Either way, we have to NPC someone during the play. OR, we recruit 2 more players, and Jimmy will just miss the play and when he's back you'll have 5 players for the rest of the AP.
Let me know. Recruit 2 players so nobody has to be NPC'd and then have 5 after the play, or recruit 1 player and NPC Jimmy through the play.
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Alright, after thinking about it all night, I'm going to recruit 2 new players of any of the non-restricted classes. I'm also going to allow a the Magus class this time and I'll just try to learn that class. It's a popular class but I just don't know it very well. I think a cleric would be nice, but since you have some healing abilities, it's not crucial.
Plus, with a 5-man team I don't think I need to pull back on the fights like I did in the last dungeon, where I had half the enemy run off (although it was a legitimate thing since you did bluff very well). I'll have my recruitment thread up shortly. It's very specific on the kind of person I want.
I would like your input on the applicants. Please send me PMs with you top choices. Do not post that in the discussion thread, as I don't want the applicants reading what you said about them. The primary thing I want is someone who can post frequently and know the rules. I'd like someone who roleplays and finally someone who doesn't fill my inbox with complaints/suggestions.
Ezren was the GM in the game that took over a character as an NPC when that guy quit. So, not sure how he did it.
He just put 'NPC' behind the character's name, using a new alias.
I just realized that if I recruit from today to say July 2, pick the person on July 3, we have the holiday to deal with. Once the holiday weekend is over, Jimmy's gone to Derka-Derkastan. It's extremely unfortunate, as I know Jimmy was really looking forward to doing this play.
Indeed I was, so I hope I'll one day get another chance to play that part of book 2.
It's unfortunate we've lost Ezren. I hope we'll get some a good new players to join. Magus is an awesome class by the way. (I had to look into it when GMing The Dalsine Affair, 'cause the boss was a magus.)
Derka-Derkastan is Scotland, by the way :)
I'm following the recruit thread. I think we have a few good candidates. I hope for the best.
In the meantime, Tristain practices his lines in front of a mirror, only mostly stumbling over them, but somewhat decently getting through them. He's now appropriate for a grade school production of Cats or Showboat.
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I might rewind the game a tad to the initial time at the Limehouse Theater.
I want people to send me PMs if you have a strong preference or dislike. This game is for the players, so it's important you guys get people you'd like to interact with. I will assume the two new players are part of (k)Night's Bane, as Domino/Corey was. I will just assume Ezren never went to the Limehouse Theater and was greatly overcome by the power of Asmodeus when he visited the temple to distribute the coins/news.
Jimmy, I'm trying to think what I'm going to do with your character while you are away. I'll have him play the parts that Robahl actually was going to play, so he's free to direct and yell at how inept all of you are during the play. However, although you will level with the group, you will be moderately penalized on wealth per level on a temporary basis since you aren't going to be taking risks nor actually posting while gaining this XP. My initial thought is that for level 3 you will not earn any coin, and in level 4 you are not allowed to exceed the theoretical "average" loot amount I calculate for the group. The alternative was to keep you at level 3, but I think that would probably endanger the group in the near future, which isn't fair to them.
Should the play finish before you come back (and the group survives the play), I will NPC him for a bit or allow other players to post on your behalf should there involve risk.