I think Treiden has done some good damage as well, His kill count is 2nd Xem did do a nice job locking down the Girrilon or however its spelled. If that thing got into a combat we probably would of had some deaths.
Yes Areilla I see your concern here as this are my thoughts exactly. It really seems kinda lope sided for now.
Some changes I can propose.
1. We do away with the persona showing in the initial. Depending how cool your intro is it will set the crowd mood. Therefore encouraging creativity.
2. I can remove the full round action sever and make it standard therefore increasing the usability of sever. However I will keep the HP percentage ratio to prevent a 1 hit full HP KO due to bad rolls.
3. Any other suggestion.
Lastly I want you guys to have fun really. If you are not having fun then I am not having fun. This is pretty custom stuff and it's really our first fight as beta testing. lets hope 2nd fight will be much better and balanced. Maybe Xem you might wanna switched the Variant difficult terrain ability. It's really quite tough to maneuver around it though it probably saved Garris life.
I'm just glad no one did Synth Summoner. especialy mixed with barbarian or alchemist, that would have kickes some face in and probably is the most cheeze build you can make it has my offense with insane defense as well. I'm gratefull for the difficult terraine. I could envision the barbarians monkey jumping me after the first display of charging and mutilating one of them. Wolf pack tactics will always work in favor, focus damage on one area at a time and work as a team, it can seem dickish if the DM does this but it should be done as its realistic. Just not looking forward to being on that end of the stick :) Good fight all
There's a trait that gives you two caster levels. Magical Knack
Edit: I like both those suggestions DM. I'd also like the chance to rebuild now that I know who's on the team and what we're working with. I went with a defensive build expecting to have a really really good AC, but like Owyn my AC still kinda sucks and I gave up a lot of damage for it. A breastplate would be really nice (or even any armor that allows a +3 dex). Also if we're going to be dealing with difficult terrain every fight, having a 20 move is going to really suck.
Garris - I strongly considered Synthesist summoner (my fav class) but I've played them a lot, and you're right they are easily the most powerful class in the game (by far). If Ariella dies, a quadruped pouncing synth will be my next build. Raja the Terrible Tiger of Jalmeray.
Agree with the save of my life ;) difficult terraine can be a great assest since 3 of us can charge or withdraw through it. Hell the fighters could pick up dragon style if they have the feat slot free.
I removed the kill tally. I think it's unnecessary as it seems to give pressure and the focus is surviving and winning the crowd over and working as a team. Reputation takes time but your goal is to win every match so that you can clear your debt and work towards a profit. You will get your gold later guys and some of you maybe lucky to get a patron.
Probably for the best. Not sure how far along the evil scale Xem is but if he's a glory hound it might be safe to assume he'd play with Garris' alchemy supplies. Garris would probably never even know or wouldn't be able to tell the difference given his terrifying wisdom score.
Edited above post.
Guys lets use this chance to try out since it's obvious this battle is won.
1. Sever limb is now a standard action.
2. Ariella you may remove your penalties for the intro. I will adjust accordingly to the intro contents rather than dice
Alright whoever needs ti rebuild go ahead and inform me before the next fight. I will be a little more heavy handed next fight in my difficulty level though.
why, alchemy is based on inteligence, and if the extracst or mutagens leave my hands they go inert. the regain power when I have them back. Infused by my own magical energy. The chemicals and what not seem to be just found in nature as there are no material requirments for making these things and Alchemis have knowledge nature. So pretty hard to tamper with stuff. Though I do like the idea of not have a kill total the goal should be to bring down threats no matter who takes them down.
Cool. I'll do mine now.
One more thing guys, I am thinking of removing AC as its not realistic and it's kinda useless as its so low for all of us.
I am thinking along this line
Armor
I will be designing a few armors for the gladiator so as to intro better variety and encourage the use of shield.
Armor as DR, and Wounds and Vigor would make this about as realistic as you can get in the system. I'm in if thats what everyone wants.
Though, being able to be large lets me overcome the DR of non magical armor. It is an ok system but it does complicate things. It can slow combats down, with needing opposed critical rolls
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Too many changes.
just the armor.reduction, skip wounds and vigor.
Armor as reduction is kind of bad in this setting, our AC gets lower. And if we never have magical armor, me and any animal that is large or bigger will hit through the reduction. Its not good.
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these battls are slugg fest with not casting. I love it but realize they will be quick dirty and ugly. People will die. It is true a defense build is tough. Magus/Monk would probably be the most defensive with crane style. Your best defense can be offense, but that can get you killed. There is probably a good chance I die next battle if I get primed. I think we need a few fights before we change too much, though I'm game for doing whatever. I love the creative narating part of this as well as the gritty fighting :) keep up the good work.
True, alchemy is based on Intelligence but perception and spacial awareness is all Wisdom. If someone felt like slipping poison or something into one of your extracts or even the flask you drink it from there's a very real chance your PC would be entirely unaware of it. I'm sure as things go on, PC's will gain access to a lot of outside materials.
High Int/Low Wis is the classic "absentminded professor" type build. Y'know, the kind of person who accidentally makes a batch of cookies with salt instead of sugar. Wallace, of Wallace and Gromit fame (my son watches these movies all the time), is THE perfect example.
I'm not saying this will happen but it's something some self serving person could easily organize. There is and always should be consequences to dump stats. That's what makes them so much fun.
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My character doesn't wear armor. That being said, my opinion on the matter should make no difference.
There will be consequences as its not all just fight. After each battle I will try to place in an event
Armor as DR fights come out relatively the same, except it heavily penalizes non two-handed power attack builds. Ran a game with that once trying to recreate the year 500 AD in northern Germany.
Everyone's AC sucks, so there is no reason not to power attack. Since everyone has DR, you need to power attack to break through the DR. You never miss, so you end up doing around the same damage after the DR as you would counting misses. Except for people who use bows/light/one handed weapons/unarmed strikes without Dragon Ferocity. They get screwed.
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Just let us buy some decent armor and normal AC rules will be fine. We don't even have as good of armor as normal level one characters. The system is designed for martial classes to have access to all the available armors, especially by fifth level.
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Done with my rebuild. Now our selfish evil party member can't ruin my fun, 'cause I took dragon style like all the cool kids :P
wait, wait a min here, so Titanos has Int7, Wis7, Cha8 and is pretty famous and I'm getting punished :) I call shenanigans... I look forward to the roleplaying opportunity :)
@Ariella, nice rebuild, but don't you want a slashing or piercing weapon so you don't take the -4 to sever?
Good call, I'll switch it to a Guisarme and take Cleave instead of EWP. I missed that bit of sever.
Imagine getting violently castrated with one of these bad boys. =shudder=
Cleave is really good with the low AC's nice choice
Going to begin reworking tonight. Probably gonna cash in bard for rogue, and switch my style from trip and blind, which has come to be pretty much useless and/or ineffective, to feinting. That could become great fun!
And with the low ACs abounding, few worries on hitting!
Imagine getting violently castrated with one of these bad boys. =shudder=
Do I have to? Uggghhhhh...
DM: How much reworking will you allow to our characters? Do you want me to stick with more or less the same general idea (a flashy dual-wielder)? Or can I alter Aramus more drastically (like, for instance, make him a 2H warrior focused on brutal Power Attacking)? Just rolling ideas around and trying to figure out what's best.
Go crazy Aramus
Cool! I'll post again when I'm done figuring out what all to do with this guy...
Please all take your turn on the gameplay first though. Oh Miss Andry since sever is now standard action you wanna try castrating that monkey?
Hmmmmmmm how much can we rebuild? After much pondering I am interested in swapping my sword and shield for two whips, would be pretty baddass...
Also, question: if in a build I take Combat Expertise BEFORE my first level of gladiator, could I swap out that bonus feat for an Improved Combat Maneuver feat?
Hi all just popping in to let people know I am still here. I don't to post during peak activity times right now but that will change soon. I still can post at least twice a day just not at hours that match everyone else.
I will keep breunnor as is I like his wrecking ball concept. I may not get the highest kill count but there may be a time when I will be the last one standing.
"Also, question: if in a build I take Combat Expertise BEFORE my first level of gladiator, could I swap out that bonus feat for an Improved Combat Maneuver feat?"
Not how the rules normally work. You would just gain no benefit from it. But DM is usually cool, so maybe you'll get lucky.
DM - I will attempt a sever if it's still up on my turn next round. We'll see...
If the sequence changed to gladiator first then former life will it be legal??
Treiden awaiting your turn.
"If the sequence changed to gladiator first then former life will it be legal??"
What do you mean? It's legal to take levels in any order you want. It's up to you whether you want to restrict the gladiator class to those who actually live in a Ludus. Who's to say that he hasn't been a gladiator his whole life, and recently has been developing different skillsets to help his chances in the Arena. (Ie Gladiator levels first then the other two).
Yeah so what exactly is Aramus is asking I do not understand.
He's probably under the impression (which so was I) that he has to take his two non-gladiator levels first, in which case he wants to take Combat Expertise before he'd get it from his gladiator levels as a pre-req for some other feat (I think). If we're allowed to take the levels in any order it becomes a moot point most likely.
Ariella u succeeded the sever move but need to roll a percentage roll against his HP.
Yeah so as I mentioned as long his backstory briefly mentioned he is a volunteer in a glad school as a katapesh citizen volunteer but got in trouble and really became a slave gladiator.
I'll let you roll the percentage if that's okay. I don't have ready access to his HP total so it's difficult for me to figure out what I need to roll without going back through the thread and adding up everything he's taken so far.
Damn, five feet! That monkey's hung.
Icelandic Phallological Museum
According to those dudes "Its largest exhibit is a portion of a blue whale's penis measuring 170 cm (67 in/5' 5 inches) long and weighing 70 kilograms (150 lb), which Iceland Review has dubbed "a real Moby Dick". The specimen is only the front tip as the entire organ, when intact, would have been about 5 m (16 ft) long and weighed about 350–450 kilograms (770–990 lb).
My only desire is for more enemies, so I could use it as an improvised greatclub.
I'll let you roll the percentage if that's okay. I don't have ready access to his HP total so it's difficult for me to figure out what I need to roll without going back through the thread and adding up everything he's taken so far.
After much research, planning....visualising....debate....playtesting...quarrels....our 1st successful sever limb is actually a Penis...I am so proud of you guys...*sobs* what have we become....???
Don't worry Ariella, I will send More bigger mightier penis towards you to cut off...but beware for the prophecy has spoken...
Ariella...you will be killed by a eunuch one day...the day you see him. Run.
wait, wait a min here, so Titanos has Int7, Wis7, Cha8 and is pretty famous and I'm getting punished :) I call shenanigans... I look forward to the roleplaying opportunity :)
Duh Garris. Guess why Titanos all famous and such was sent to a Novitus match??? They told him that there will be candy for him after the match....