GM thunderspirit 4–16: The Fabric of Reality (Inactive)

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Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

As Erin steps into the hallway, nothing happens.

The hallway continues for a long, long way.

Sczarni

Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

"Looks like just a very long hallway. Looks clear from here."
She says in response as she begins to head down the hallway scouting for the group.

Dark Archive

Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
Spell Slots:
1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

Approximately what time is it? I need to determine how many castings of Mage Armor/False Life I've been through.

Sczarni

Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

Ashur follows right behind Erin, looking out for dangerous and ironic creatures that strangle bugbears. "Lead the way." "Don't call her babe, no matter what you do. She'll kill you."

Perception: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (11) + 12 = 23

The Exchange

Stats:
  • 50/58 HP
  • AC: 15, FF: 15, T: 10
  • F: +7, R +3, W+10
  • Dip: +23, Per: +18, SM: +17
  • Init +0
  • 0/8 CEs used
  • Kn(R)+20, Kn(L)+22, Kn(A,E)+13, Kn(D,G,Na,No,H,Pl)+12
  • 40 ft land speed
  • Kelish Cloistered Cleric 12*

    If your Rod of Extend, Lesser has run out, I have one I'm not using; I usually use them with Hold Person, but I ran out of those and don't have much prepped based around a duration since I picked up a Decoy Ring.

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Perception 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (10) + 16 = 26 (+3 Traps)
    If needed.

    Walking down the hallway, she takes a quick glance back over her shoulder at Ashur and asks.
    "So, it had been about what? A year now?"


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    Amira's research took 12 hours. It hasn't been more than an hour since she finished, since you were encouraged to go into the Tapestry right afterward. Marduk could have cast both just prior to entering.

    The corridor continues along, with all manner of artwork along the walls, for 300 feet.

    New MAP

    Please place yourselves in whatever order no further to the left than the black lightning bolt on the map.

    GM:

    Party take 10 Stealth: worst = 10
    Enemy take 10 Percept: best = 20

    Party take 10 Percept:
    Am = 25
    As = 22
    E = 26
    M = 15

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Sounds good.

    False Life: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (10) + 8 = 18

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    I think I have the front, unable to see the map though so someone will have to place me there. "Black Lightning" sounds rather ominous though, haha.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)
    Erin Alegra wrote:

    Perception 1d20+16 (+3 Traps)

    If needed.

    Walking down the hallway, she takes a quick glance back over her shoulder at Ashur and asks.
    "So, it had been about what? A year now?"

    "What has?"

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    "Our last trip into the tapestry. What, you forgot about that whole Aasimar incident already?"

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    "No I didn't forget. Stupid racist Aasimar trying to kill me. Isn't that the first mission we went on together?"

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    "Yeah it was, but I am pretty sure it was not them trying to kill you. I seem to remember something else being behind the whole plot. That is of course unless you count that statue that kind of looked like one."
    She says with a small laugh, leading the group down the corridor.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    "I'm still pretty sure they had something to do with it. But yea, their boss was some demon thingy." "Why is she bringing this up?"

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    "You have to let that go... If I hated every tiefling for what one did to me, where would you be right now?"
    Erin then holds a hand up and quietly says.
    "Hallway ends here, I am going to take a quick peek."
    She then makes her way to the opening and looks to both sides in the new room.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    "You know other Tieflings?" Ashur waits while Erin scouts.

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    "Who doesn't? They're everywhere these days."

    The Exchange

    Stats:
  • 50/58 HP
  • AC: 15, FF: 15, T: 10
  • F: +7, R +3, W+10
  • Dip: +23, Per: +18, SM: +17
  • Init +0
  • 0/8 CEs used
  • Kn(R)+20, Kn(L)+22, Kn(A,E)+13, Kn(D,G,Na,No,H,Pl)+12
  • 40 ft land speed
  • Kelish Cloistered Cleric 12*

    "I know they're around the Lodge, but I've only adventured with one other than Ashur. I'd say I have my fill of those tainted by the lower planes, if they're more often like him. I hear he's 'putting heads on pikes for Gorum and Sarenrae' now."

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    "Thanks, Marduk. You're really helping.."

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    GM, moved myself to the edge of the room. If something happens before then move me to where it is relevant, otherwise I am looking into the room from that point.

    "I thought I told you about that... I guess I could be remembering wrong though, I was a bit tipsy at the time."
    She says, slightly disappointed.
    "Wow he forgot already... I may have made a mistake in judgement"


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    As Erin holds up her hand and moves forward, she freezes short of the entryway, hearing a cadence of words from two different voices. Though she does not have first-hand knowledge, it sounds very much like spellcasting!

    Initiatives. Neither side is surprised, though the bad guys do get a single round of prep off.

    GM:

    AV: mage armor
    H: fly
    AV init: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (13) + 6 = 19
    H init: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 1 = 13

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Init: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 1 = 7

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Initiative 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (7) + 5 = 12
    "Spellcasters!" She shouts out to the group behind her.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Ashur thinks for a moment and then nods his head. "Oh right, that. Sorry I forgot about that. Yea, you told me."

    "Great, it's not even been a day and you've already screwed up again.."

    Initiative: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19

    The Exchange

    Stats:
  • 50/58 HP
  • AC: 15, FF: 15, T: 10
  • F: +7, R +3, W+10
  • Dip: +23, Per: +18, SM: +17
  • Init +0
  • 0/8 CEs used
  • Kn(R)+20, Kn(L)+22, Kn(A,E)+13, Kn(D,G,Na,No,H,Pl)+12
  • 40 ft land speed
  • Kelish Cloistered Cleric 12*

    Init: 1d20 ⇒ 16 Assuming no bonus from Ashur.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Nope, this is not one of my favored terrains, yet.

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Favored Terrain (Hao Jin Tapestry) coming right up!

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    BRB, buying boots for this place.

    The Exchange

    Stats:
  • 50/58 HP
  • AC: 15, FF: 15, T: 10
  • F: +7, R +3, W+10
  • Dip: +23, Per: +18, SM: +17
  • Init +0
  • 0/8 CEs used
  • Kn(R)+20, Kn(L)+22, Kn(A,E)+13, Kn(D,G,Na,No,H,Pl)+12
  • 40 ft land speed
  • Kelish Cloistered Cleric 12*

    I think the population in this place is less than 5,000...

    Note: I'm gonna cast Bless if nobody's hurt when my turn comes around. If they are, I'll channel if appropriate. Driving home from work (then maybe meeting my mother for dinner) starting 2 seconds from now.


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    Init order

    Baddie #1
    Ashur
    Amira
    Baddie #2
    Erin
    Marduk

    Erin hears more rhythmic speaking but does not see anyone yet.

    GM:

    AV = false life

    Ashur up. Amira's bless will go off.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Ashur moves into the room and total defenses. Do I see anything?

    Perception: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (12) + 12 = 24


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    Yep...you get attacked by box text. ;-)

    Virtually every inch of wall space in this chamber is covered with art or holds some work of art. Marble busts, bas relief carvings, and painted frescoes adorn the walls. Hundreds of stone shelves stretch from floor to ceiling, holding thousands of figurines, statuettes, decorative masks, and various other items. A massive pair of iron doors stand in the center of the far wall.

    You see an armored dwarf 25 feet in the air of this antechamber, the ceiling of which soars above your head to a full height of 30 feet, similar to the entry chamber. Her hands are before her as she appears in the midst of casting a spell.

    To the left as you enter is a Chelaxian man who drops his wand as you enter. Though it is too far away to make out clearly, the silvery patch on his breast appears to bear the symbol of the Aspis Consortium.

    Erin, Marduk up.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Okay, then I will interject the following during my turn.

    Ashur turns to the Chelaxian. "Are you Ascalar Vruul? If so, Grandmaster Torch sends his regards."

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Erin dashes quickly into the room, drawing a short sword and one of her daggers by the blade. Getting as close as she can, she launches the dagger at the spellcaster in an attempt to disrupt the spell.
    Attack 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (18) + 3 = 21 (Bless, 3 range increments)
    Damage 1d4 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Marduk rushed into the room on Ashur's heels.

    "Aspis!", he hissed in rage.

    Spotting the woman midway through a spell, the hulking half-orc wound up a massive ball of flame and hurled it her direction.

    Fireball DC:16: 8d6 + 20 ⇒ (6, 5, 6, 2, 4, 6, 2, 3) + 20 = 54

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Poor dagger...

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Any spell that's a one round cast is worth interrupting. =P

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    I wholeheartedly agree, hence the feeble attempt with a knife.


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    Immune to fire. >:-D

    Okay, not really, but it would be nice right now. Have a chance to make the concentration check for the dagger. The 54-point fireball, not so much. LOL

    Concentration (dagger): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (15) + 4 = 19
    Concentration (like it matters): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (8) + 4 = 12

    ...and her spell summoning 1d3 hell hounds fizzles.


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    What's my save DC?

    Refl save (not that it matters much either with a +0 bonus): 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (10) + 0 = 10

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Hurray! 1d3 less things that are immune to fire!

    Edit: It's DC:16. I usually put the DC in the spell damage heading.


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides
    Marduk Beastblood wrote:
    Hurray! 1d3 less things that are immune to fire!

    There's always a bright side!

    Marduk Beastblood wrote:
    Edit: It's DC:16. I usually put the DC in the spell damage heading.

    Yup, there it is. Reading iz a SKILL!

    She takes the full brunt of the blast with her face, and the charred remains of one former dwarf cleric drop to the floor.

    The sorcerer sneers at Ashur's jibe, then, deciding he is unwilling to face the same fate as the dwarf, moves to the side, then casts a spell of his own. A shimmering, nearly invisible sphere pops into existence around him.

    Spellcraft DC 19

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Ashur double moves up until he bumps into the invisible sphere. "You gotta come out eventually, coward. You're gonna pay for turning on your own. Why'd you do it?"

    The Exchange

    Stats:
  • 50/58 HP
  • AC: 15, FF: 15, T: 10
  • F: +7, R +3, W+10
  • Dip: +23, Per: +18, SM: +17
  • Init +0
  • 0/8 CEs used
  • Kn(R)+20, Kn(L)+22, Kn(A,E)+13, Kn(D,G,Na,No,H,Pl)+12
  • 40 ft land speed
  • Kelish Cloistered Cleric 12*

    Scraft: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (6) + 7 = 13

    Despite not knowing the effect, Amira DOES see Ashur hit something magic.

    Casting Dispel Magic on whatever Ashur walked into, moving closer if needed.

    cl check: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (17) + 8 = 25

    Sczarni

    Female Human Rogue 10 (hp 82/82) | F +7 R +11 W +9 | AC 24 T 15 FF 24 CMD 27

    Double move, drawing my second blade during the movement."
    Erin draws a second sword to replace the knife and skirts the wall to get behind the man. Upon arriving behind him, she asks.
    "This man betrayed you?"

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    Marduk draws a carved iron rod.

    "Try another spell little man. See what happens..."

    Rod of Selective Spell. Readying to disrupt.

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    "He betrayed us, the society. He was a double agent, until he went rogue and killed a bunch of fellow agents."


    Five-star Hound of Tindalos. Er, GM. Whatever. | RoW Encounter Map | A Fistful of Flowers slides

    Not sure if lesser globe affects non-spell contact at all...can't tell by the spell description. BUt since you can see the sphere anyway...

    Amira El-Amin wrote:

    Casting Dispel Magic on whatever Ashur walked into, moving closer if needed.

    Dice: cl check=25

    The sorcerer asks you not to cast that. ;-)

    The sphere collapses around the caster, who furiously takes a five-foot step and targets Ashur with his spell-like bloodline ability.

    Dark Archive

    Male Half-Orc Sorcerer/Barbarian 17 | HP 134/184 (150 stoneskin, 0 temps) | AC 17 (22) T 11 FF 16 (21) | CMB +20, CMD 39 | F: +20 (22), R: +13 (15), W: +15 (17) | Init: +1 | Perc: +19 (21), SM: +0 (2) | Speed 40ft (50ft) | Active conditions: A bunch.
    Spell Slots:
    1st 7/8 | 2nd 7/8 | 3rd 1/7 | 4th 4/7 | 5th 7/7 | 6th 7/7 | 7th 2/4

    "Fool. We'll see whose blood is stronger."

    Marduk conjured another massive ball of flame, banking it off of the far wall to avoid incinerating his allies.

    Readied Fireball: 8d6 + 20 ⇒ (4, 4, 3, 2, 2, 6, 4, 1) + 20 = 46

    Sczarni

    Raging Tiefling Ranger(Guide) 4/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 3 (HP: 92/96 ; AC:28/24, T:13, FF:24; Fort:+14 Ref:+10 Will:+5 (+1 versus poisons, disease, fear, and confusion); Init+2; Perception+13(Barkskin)

    Oh, I thought it was resilient sphere and I couldn't touch him. In that case, I'll would have grappled him. Can I retcon?

    Grapple: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (15) + 14 = 29

    He gets an AOO if he wants to.

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